Jason Whitlock: Favre will choose Injured Reserve (1 Viewer)

[fatness]

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You know the obvious: 1. Minnesota's offensive line can't protect Favre; 2. The Vikings don't have a No. 1 receiver; 3. Brad Childress is not an elite coach. Here's what's not as obvious and can't be proven with stats: The Williams Wall, the key to Minnesota's defense, is cracked. When the opposition really needs to, it can run right at the heart of the Minnesota defense. Kevin and Pat Williams are not as effective as they used to be, which has made Jared Allen less effective.

I know, the Vikings have surrendered 199 rushing yards in two games, good for 11th best in the league (they were No. 2 last season). But their run defense does not pass my eyeball test. It's not creating enough second- and third-and-long situations. The squad that led the league in sacks in 2009 ranks No. 18 after two weeks. We're witnessing a total team failure. Favre could bail. He has a bad ankle. He's old. He didn't come back for a 20th season to lead an 8-8 ball club.

Favre, in my opinion, will choose a season-ending injury over spending the next three months as a Minnesota liability. I hope I'm wrong. There's nothing on his resume that says he's a quitter. His ironman streak of starts is as impressive a stat as you'll ever see in football. But this is a unique situation. Favre is not totally invested in the Vikings. He doesn't have enough sweat equity. He had to be begged into returning to a team that was a last-minute drive from advancing to the Super Bowl. Favre doesn't like training camp. How do you think he feels about November games devoid of playoff implications?

It could be over this week. The Lions are not the same-old Lions. They're dangerous. They had the Bears on the ropes (Calvin Johnson's “drop”). They had the ball in the final two minutes with a chance to beat the Eagles. Detroit is good enough to beat the Vikings, especially if Favre gift-wraps a couple of turnovers.

An 0-3 Minnesota start, and I expect Peter King or Chris Mortensen or Jay Glazer to publish pictures of Favre's bruised and swollen ankle.

 

[Teef]

Whitlock will say anything for attention.

 

[The_Wolfman]

This seems like baseless speculation to me...I highly doubt Favre is going to fake an injury just so he can quit on his team. Pretty insulting to one of the games all-time tough guys and competitors. I'm a Bears fan who pretty much hates Favre, but at least respect the guy jeez.

 

[todisco1]

That is one of the worst articles I've ever read.

 

[Jeremy]

Nah. I don't see that. If they drop out of contention, he might spend the rest of the season going through the motions and padding his records, but I can't see him faking an injury to go on IR.

 

[Statcruncher]

That is one of the worst articles I've ever read.

Nothing like an article that calls out a person for being a heartless quitter and providing zero facts to back it up. What a tool.

 

[Bri]

Whitlock will say anything for attention.

Short of the Vikings fans that paid to see the best players play-I don't see what's so "off the wall" about this that he's seeking attention and all. I mean quarterbacks (and others but...) leave games with bruises and such that can be pretty jaw dropping to those that never saw it.If their season is "over" in mid-November, why just let defenders beat up a legend?I think it's a fine idea. I would even go further and suggest to them to trade for some decent young QB(s) and turn Favre into their personal mentors.I do recall some stuff with Aaron Rodgers stealing his job and those two getting along but he didn't want to teach him so much and....that was then. It's totally different scenario now. He really believed he'd play 10 more years then and it was his team and his town and...it's different.Tell an older man "you don't have to get beat up if you train these guys"Could Holmgren talk him into working with Colt McCoy? What would the Vikes need in trade?Is he from Missou or Miss? Go work with Bradford?I know the retirement stuff and even the Strahan stuff has tarnished this guy's career in many people's eyes but I still love the guy as a player and I don't want to see him go out with a beating.

 

[culdeus]

Whitlock will say anything for attention.

What was the crap he made up about LeBron? I forget, he always comes up with the craziest stuff.

 

[Hang 10]

Good point, Whitlock, because Favre has been known to miss games when he doesn't feel like playing.

 

[Bri]

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You know the obvious: 1. Minnesota's offensive line can't protect Favre; 2. The Vikings don't have a No. 1 receiver; 3. Brad Childress is not an elite coach. Here's what's not as obvious and can't be proven with stats: The Williams Wall, the key to Minnesota's defense, is cracked. When the opposition really needs to, it can run right at the heart of the Minnesota defense. Kevin and Pat Williams are not as effective as they used to be, which has made Jared Allen less effective.

I know it's a Whitlock quote but...One of the Williams is retiring at the end of this season as well.

Their DL still looks excellent to me. It IS possible to ask too much of them.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Brett Favre will retire before he goes on IR.

 

[Bri]

some bruise pics

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1397815.shtml

there were David Carr ones out years ago but I can't find em'. The guy's body was more purple than white.

 

[sho nuff]

some bruise pics

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1397815.shtml

there were David Carr ones out years ago but I can't find em'. The guy's body was more purple than white.

The article in the OP is pretty outright foolish IMO.Also, what do pictures from after the NFC Title game have to do with the topic right now?

 

[Tau837]

This seems like baseless speculation to me...I highly doubt Favre is going to fake an injury just so he can quit on his team. Pretty insulting to one of the games all-time tough guys and competitors. I'm a Bears fan who pretty much hates Favre, but at least respect the guy jeez.

 

[Clifford]

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You know the obvious: 1. Minnesota's offensive line can't protect Favre; 2. The Vikings don't have a No. 1 receiver; 3. Brad Childress is not an elite coach. Here's what's not as obvious and can't be proven with stats: The Williams Wall, the key to Minnesota's defense, is cracked. When the opposition really needs to, it can run right at the heart of the Minnesota defense. Kevin and Pat Williams are not as effective as they used to be, which has made Jared Allen less effective.

I think he's right on here. I was saying the same thing after the Saints game and from what (little) I saw from the last game, they didn't get any better. PT ran at will straight through those guys in the 2nd half of the opener.

 

[Bri]

some bruise pics

http://kstp.com/news/stories/s1397815.shtml

there were David Carr ones out years ago but I can't find em'. The guy's body was more purple than white.

The article in the OP is pretty outright foolish IMO.Also, what do pictures from after the NFC Title game have to do with the topic right now?

I had made a previous point about not wanting to watch a legend get beat-up. Not a whole lot of pics to choose from to display

 

[Jeremy]

Brett Favre will retire before he goes on IR.

Yeah, that's just it. The one thing that sets him apart from the other greats is his legendary toughness. He's not going to throw away that whole persona here in the last moments of his career. I can see him quitting mentally on the team, but he's still going to drag his battered body out there every Sunday, and if it ever gets to the point where he's benched, he'll just take his ball and go home.

 

[Tackling Dummies]

Whitlock is a columnist, so his MO is to file all these stories and not be held to anything resembling common sense.

Kind of like FBG's version of LHUCKS.

 

[TheFanatic]

Nah. I don't see that. If they drop out of contention, he might spend the rest of the season going through the motions and padding his records, but I can't see him faking an injury to go on IR.

I think that's the only reason he keeps playing, but I'm not so sure it will be enough. I don't think that Whitlock is that far off, and I can't stand the guy 95% of the time. Here's their upcoming schedule:

DET

BYE

@NYJ

DAL

@GBP

@NEP

How many wins do you think they have at the end of that stretch? I'll give them Detroit, but am not so sure they win that game. I'm pretty sure but at the beginning of the season I would've called that a lock. Now, not so much. I don't see them winning @the Jets, @the PAts, and @the Packers. So even if they beat Detroit and Dallas that leaves them at 2-5.

Would it shock anyone if he took off his spurs and took the IR route? I wouldn't be. I don't think it will happen, but I wouldn't be shocked...

 

[HellToupee]

Chilly will right the ship

 

[sho nuff]

Chilly will right the ship

I don't think you are supposed to mention ships or boats in Vikings topics.

 

[urbanhack]

That is one of the worst articles I've ever read.

Whitlock is horrible

 

[Two Deep]

I swear if you could read Favres face while on the sideline, his expression seems to be saying, I wish I stayed in Missiissippi. I could be on the couch relaxing with a cold beer instead of taking a beating on this ####ty team.

 

[Clifford]

I think if Favre does anything he retires but even I would be shocked to see that. I would not be shocked to see them lose to the Lions.

 

[Jason Wood]

Reason #1,923 why Jason Whitlock is more of a carnival barker than a "journalist."

 

[5-ish Finkle]

Whitlock is a columnist, so his MO is to file all these stories and not be held to anything resembling common sense.

Kind of like FBG's version of LHUCKS.

This response isn't getting enough love, so I feel obligated.

**hugs post**

**scratches post's belly**

"Who's a good post? YOU ARE! Want to go outside? OUTSIDE?!" **throws tennis ball**

**gives post Snausage**

 

[Sabertooth]

Favre is anything but a quitter.

 

[Rick James]

Jason Whitlock: Favre will choose Injured Reserve, I will choose buffet

 

[chem]

Whitlock is spot-on about a lot of things in sports. Interesting article.

 

[encaitar]

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The Williams Wall, the key to Minnesota's defense, is cracked. When the opposition really needs to, it can run right at the heart of the Minnesota defense. Kevin and Pat Williams are not as effective as they used to be, which has made Jared Allen less effective.

I think he's right on here. I was saying the same thing after the Saints game and from what (little) I saw from the last game, they didn't get any better. PT ran at will straight through those guys in the 2nd half of the opener.

Ok, let's get serious here. Ronnie Brown had a great run last game when the Vikings loaded up trying to get a safety. He broke through the line and gained 51 yards. Big play, let's not take it for granted. However, outside of that one play, the Vikings are giving up 2.8 YPC. If that's a broken Wall, then I'll take a broken Wall over almost any other inside duo in the league. The Vikings defense has given up 21 points this season in two games, despite missing two of their top 3 CBs. Hell, they've only had 3 CBs dressed for these two games. By midseason, Whitlock will be eating his words (well if he wasn't just throwing #### at the wall anyway).

 

[Heatman]

Chilly will right the ship

 

[Clifford]

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The Williams Wall, the key to Minnesota's defense, is cracked. When the opposition really needs to, it can run right at the heart of the Minnesota defense. Kevin and Pat Williams are not as effective as they used to be, which has made Jared Allen less effective.

I think he's right on here. I was saying the same thing after the Saints game and from what (little) I saw from the last game, they didn't get any better. PT ran at will straight through those guys in the 2nd half of the opener.

Ok, let's get serious here. Ronnie Brown had a great run last game when the Vikings loaded up trying to get a safety. He broke through the line and gained 51 yards. Big play, let's not take it for granted. However, outside of that one play, the Vikings are giving up 2.8 YPC. If that's a broken Wall, then I'll take a broken Wall over almost any other inside duo in the league. The Vikings defense has given up 21 points this season in two games, despite missing two of their top 3 CBs. Hell, they've only had 3 CBs dressed for these two games. By midseason, Whitlock will be eating his words (well if he wasn't just throwing #### at the wall anyway).

Including first game?

 

[Adebisi]

Whitlock is spot-on about a lot of things in sports. Interesting article.

I don't get the Whitlock hate around here. This is no more baseless than probably 3/4 of the speculative posts in the Shark Pool.

 

[fatness]

Brett Favre will retire before he goes on IR.

I think he'd retire if he knew he was going to be benched. He's nowhere near being benched now so that's not a current issue. But if the Vikings are 7-7, out of the hunt, and know Favre won't be back next year, it wouldn't be unusual for them to want to start Jackson the last few games of the season. Favre won't let anyone end his streak, he'd have to end it himself by retiring.

 

[encaitar]

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The Williams Wall, the key to Minnesota's defense, is cracked. When the opposition really needs to, it can run right at the heart of the Minnesota defense. Kevin and Pat Williams are not as effective as they used to be, which has made Jared Allen less effective.

I think he's right on here. I was saying the same thing after the Saints game and from what (little) I saw from the last game, they didn't get any better. PT ran at will straight through those guys in the 2nd half of the opener.

Ok, let's get serious here. Ronnie Brown had a great run last game when the Vikings loaded up trying to get a safety. He broke through the line and gained 51 yards. Big play, let's not take it for granted. However, outside of that one play, the Vikings are giving up 2.8 YPC. If that's a broken Wall, then I'll take a broken Wall over almost any other inside duo in the league. The Vikings defense has given up 21 points this season in two games, despite missing two of their top 3 CBs. Hell, they've only had 3 CBs dressed for these two games. By midseason, Whitlock will be eating his words (well if he wasn't just throwing #### at the wall anyway).

Including first game?

Yes, but excluding Brown's 51 yard run.

 

[ookook]

No surprise to find Fatness pissing in the Pool (again) by finding the worst excuse for journalism to post about Favre (again). No other poster has been so consistently wrong about a player's motivations and or predictions of a player's actions. Of course, he is on record before last season as saying Favre could not play too.

Favre has never shown any indiation of quitting on his team or teammates. Zero.

He would not retire in the seaon if he were healthy but benched. Never. He would sit on the bench. He would never go on IR unless he couldn't play. Their record at the time is not relevant.

It was his commitment to his teammates that brought him back, and now baseless attention-seeking speculation he would bail? For shame.

Shoot the messengers, both of them, for such drivel. Neither have any credability as far as I am concerned.

 

[fatness]

He would not retire in the seaon if he were healthy but benched. Never. He would sit on the bench. He would never go on IR unless he couldn't play. Their record at the time is not relevant.

Thank you, Bus.

 

[Adebisi]

Favre has never shown any indiation of quitting on his team or teammates. Zero.

...unless you count the last handful of offseasons, in which case he regularly quits.

He would not retire in the seaon if he were healthy but benched. Never. He would sit on the bench. He would never go on IR unless he couldn't play. Their record at the time is not relevant.

I don't see him retiring mid-season either, but I bet you've felt a lot stronger about other things you ended up being wrong about when it comes to Brett Favre. I'm sure it wasn't very long ago that thought you'd see snow in hell before you saw Favre in purple. Am I wrong?