Did walker say he felt Disrespected Sho Nuff ? That is the fact here, based on his actual words you are the one who is doing the Spin doctoring here. And if you;d Bother to Check your facts youd see that not one but Several Packers have left the organization claiming they were disrespected. Those are facts that you choose to ignore, you try to explain them away with your spin doctoring but it is clearly you who does not read the quotes of the players. did not Mckenzie say it as well? or were you sleeping ?
Walker stated he felt disrespected by the organization, I never denied that.
His actual words were that it was not about Favre...it is that that I disagreed with you. What about that can you not understand? It is you spinning this into arguing a completely different point.
in case you were here are a few quotes:Mckenzie:
McKenzie, who asked the Packers to redo his contract in March through then-agent Brian Parker, believes he’s steeply underpaid and that he was swindled by a management.
McKenzie told PFW on April 20 that McKenzie didn’t trust Packers management. McKenzie cited the promotion of Bob Slowik to defensive coordinator over DB coach Lionel Washington, whom McKenzie felt the players preferred. McKenzie was also angered by Green Bay’s decision to sign RCB Al Harris to a $19 million contract extension that included more than $7 million in bonuses, calling it “salt in the wound.”
Hmmm...funny, was it not me that said he was mad they promoted someone over another coach? And that he wanted more money?
Walker:"I just don't feel like this is the best place for me to be right now," said Walker, 27, preparing to enter his sixth pro season. "I really have no interest in being in a Green Bay Packers uniform or playing for Green Bay again."
Never did I deny that.
Citing recent contract squabbles with running back Ahman Green, tight end Bubba Franks, defensive lineman Grady Jackson and cornerback Mike McKenzie, as well as his own, Walker added, "I just don't like the way the organization runs itself. They want players to come up there and play hard and work hard, but when it comes time to be compensated, it's like, 'We forgot what you've done.'"
Funny he would cite some examples of two players who did things right and got their paychecks (Green and Bubba...and Bubba got much more than he should have), Grady who they could not renegotiate last season because of giving him an upfront advance earlier in the year, and McKenzie who I already spoke of...
Either way, did I ever deny he said any of this? Nope...keep up the spin.
The source of Walker's bitterness is the team's refusal even to discuss his contract, which at the time had two years remaining, the penultimate year of which paid him $515,000 the season after he made the Pro Bowl by catching 89 passes for 1,382 yards and 12 touchdowns. But Walker says that at this point, money is not the issue.
And your point? Did I ever deny this?
Favre offended Walker when he spoke out against the receiver in his contract dispute, saying he should come to training camp and not hold out. (Walker heeded the advice.) Walker believes Favre's comments made living and working in Wisconsin difficult; Walker tells of one instance when he was in a hotel and an employee announced his presence on an Internet message board for "anyone who had something to say to Javon Walker." It also angered Walker that the team allowed its iconic quarterback to interfere publicly in a teammate's business with management. He held his tongue all year.
Walker also offended Favre and others that he took his squabble public and was threatening holding out....the rest is his opinion about something a hotel manager may have written on a message board.
"There's an unwritten rule that players stick together," said Walker, still biting his tongue on Favre for the most part.
Funny you want to quote that from Walker, which is not much...but not where he says it was not Favre that made his decision...that he would not mind playing with Favre again?
While Walker is quite adamant about not sticking around in Green Bay for the final year of his contract -- whether Favre returns or not -- he promises not to be a disruption next season, because he doesn't plan to show up at all for training camp."If I had to go back there, I'd retire," he said. "I don't have to play."
Again, and your point...did I ever deny he was unhappy?
Jackson:
Before the 2005 NFL season, Jackson said he would hold-out of training camp in order to secure a new contract with the Packers. However, he reported for Training Camp on the first day. Several days later, however, Jackson told reporters that he no longer felt wanted in the Packers organization and requested to be released or traded to another team.
Where did I deny that he wanted more money. That he was unhappy with his contract? Problem is, they could not redo it next year...he is no longer with the team this year and still looking for work, because nobody wants to pay him what he wants. I guess the whole NFL is disrespecting him.
None of which changes the fact that this was about Walker (and much because of words you had about Walker and Favre), and you still want to spin this into something else.
Franks:
"I guess you can never tell until the 11th hour," Franks' agent, Gene Mato, told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel for Saturday's edition. "But unfortunately, it doesn't look like he's going to be there. However, he really wants to be there. To this point, I don't believe the team has stepped up to show him the respect he's earned." Bubba believes that he has done everything that has been asked of him from a football standpoint to be rewarded with a long-term deal. He played out his rookie contract never asking for an extension and never threatening a holdout even though he has been in three Pro Bowls. He has never complained about lack of receptions. He has always been a team player. Off the field, he has never been in any trouble."
Hmmm...he really wants to be there...never complained...never been in any trouble. Respect to him was $$$...and he got his $$$ too much IMO. But nice try citing this as something other than a player wanting more money...and forget the part that he wants to be there...
spin it any way you like but those are the players and their agents. You just refuse to listen to them. thats Ignorance on your part, and when one of your own defensive coaches tells his nephew on the Jets staff that its a Problem, I figure he knows what he's talking about. Get your head out of the sand and stop pretending to be an ostrich
Spin what? That you are bringing up some things that really do not prove your point.
1 other player besides Walker has left disgruntled...another was let go by the team (Grady).
It is ignorance on your part that you state things about Walker and Favre in direct conflict with Walker's own words. That is what I posted and disagreed about...that is what you continue to spin and use some major red herrings in trying to prove your point.
Why don't you listen to the players like Driver, Kampman, Green, Ferguson, Harris, and on and on and on...who went about things the right way...and were rewarded for it. You cite 2 examples worth anything in Walker and McKenzie...two that I never denied they were unhappy...and you think that means something?
Sorry that I do not believe an anonymous message board poster who says he knows somebody who knows somebody.
Bring something credible and tangible...or just end this....because you continue to spin this past what was originally even disagreed with.