I've been a programmer for 24 years , so there's nothing he could say to bother me, lol.we are fantasy nerds, so what? I mean I work in IT for cryin out loud
As a geek, you feel slighted, don't you?WTF? Who does he think he is?
oofHis name should be Jay Flamer.
Don't we slavishly devote our time to football?Nerd:
one slavishly devoted to intellectual or academic pursuits
The fact that your immediate response was to post this on an internet messageboard kind of confirms the comment.Hi, my name is Riffraff and I'm a fantasy nerd.WTF? Who does he think he is?
Guilty as charged!!!First off it's Jay Glazer and he didn't say it, one of the analysts in the studio said that the info on Stephen Jackson was for the "fantasy nerds". Who cares we are all nerds for spending this much time on message boards wasting countless hours to sit on the edge of our seats on Sunday praying the team gives our guy the ball when they get down inside the 5, when they don't we scream and yell at the tv, saying such things as "my guy could have scored, my guy is better than they guy the scored, why don't they give my guy the ball, does the coach hate him, should I trade this guy as he's in a platoon role".We are nerds. Enough said.
a real nerd know it's "steven"HTHFirst off it's Jay Glazer and he didn't say it, one of the analysts in the studio said that the info on Stephen Jackson was for the "fantasy nerds".
I guess I'm just a nerd wannabee!a real nerd know it's "steven"HTHFirst off it's Jay Glazer and he didn't say it, one of the analysts in the studio said that the info on Stephen Jackson was for the "fantasy nerds".
This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
Oh, irregardless, they all know we're "out there."They don't need Fox Mulder to tell them that.This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
This is a flawed argument that only looks at how FF has affected the NFL. Yeah, people would still watch the games, but there wouldn't be nearly the ratings for pregame shows, where injury updates happen, or the midweek updates or the online stat presence, etc. FF has taken coverage of the NFL to new levels, well beyond its mere TV and radio presence of 10-15 years ago.This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
I would argue that the internet has as much or more impact on TV's coverage. And beyond that, gambling is a much bigger $$ draw than FF, it's just kept quiet. Gamblers are as much in tune with injuries and late breaking news as FFers. Networks just can't overtly cater to gamblers. I just can't take the argument that FF gives "those guys" jobs and that the NFL depends on FFers for its' "recent" surge in popularity and coverage with any seriousness or not. If FF disappeared tomorrow, the league and it's TV ratings would suffer a negligible drop in attendance. Gambling will always be a bigger driving force than FF, and the internet making it easier to gamble weekly is much more responsible for ratings, info and such than FF ever will. Even though FF does have a small piece of the pie, it's not the driving force.It's also a flawed argument to say that FF has increased the presence of everything you say since the internet has been rising steadily and FF has done so on it's piggy back. Any argument you can use for FF's popularity rising cannot be separated from the parallel rise in internet activity. Ff owes it's popularity to the web much more than FF affects the NFL and it's coverage.This is a flawed argument that only looks at how FF has affected the NFL. Yeah, people would still watch the games, but there wouldn't be nearly the ratings for pregame shows, where injury updates happen, or the midweek updates or the online stat presence, etc. FF has taken coverage of the NFL to new levels, well beyond its mere TV and radio presence of 10-15 years ago.This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
I don't see how you can parse out FF from "the internet".I would argue that the internet has as much or more impact on TV's coverage. And beyond that, gambling is a much bigger $$ draw than FF, it's just kept quiet. Gamblers are as much in tune with injuries and late breaking news as FFers. Networks just can't overtly cater to gamblers. I just can't take the argument that FF gives "those guys" jobs and that the NFL depends on FFers for its' "recent" surge in popularity and coverage with any seriousness or not. If FF disappeared tomorrow, the league and it's TV ratings would suffer a negligible drop in attendance. Gambling will always be a bigger driving force than FF, and the internet making it easier to gamble weekly is much more responsible for ratings, info and such than FF ever will. Even though FF does have a small piece of the pie, it's not the driving force.It's also a flawed argument to say that FF has increased the presence of everything you say since the internet has been rising steadily and FF has done so on it's piggy back. Any argument you can use for FF's popularity rising cannot be separated from the parallel rise in internet activity. Ff owes it's popularity to the web much more than FF affects the NFL and it's coverage.This is a flawed argument that only looks at how FF has affected the NFL. Yeah, people would still watch the games, but there wouldn't be nearly the ratings for pregame shows, where injury updates happen, or the midweek updates or the online stat presence, etc. FF has taken coverage of the NFL to new levels, well beyond its mere TV and radio presence of 10-15 years ago.This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
I think you are seriously underestimating the effect FF has had on all things NFL.It's not the only driver, but it's a big one.I would argue that the internet has as much or more impact on TV's coverage. And beyond that, gambling is a much bigger $$ draw than FF, it's just kept quiet. Gamblers are as much in tune with injuries and late breaking news as FFers. Networks just can't overtly cater to gamblers. I just can't take the argument that FF gives "those guys" jobs and that the NFL depends on FFers for its' "recent" surge in popularity and coverage with any seriousness or not. If FF disappeared tomorrow, the league and it's TV ratings would suffer a negligible drop in attendance. Gambling will always be a bigger driving force than FF, and the internet making it easier to gamble weekly is much more responsible for ratings, info and such than FF ever will. Even though FF does have a small piece of the pie, it's not the driving force.It's also a flawed argument to say that FF has increased the presence of everything you say since the internet has been rising steadily and FF has done so on it's piggy back. Any argument you can use for FF's popularity rising cannot be separated from the parallel rise in internet activity. Ff owes it's popularity to the web much more than FF affects the NFL and it's coverage.This is a flawed argument that only looks at how FF has affected the NFL. Yeah, people would still watch the games, but there wouldn't be nearly the ratings for pregame shows, where injury updates happen, or the midweek updates or the online stat presence, etc. FF has taken coverage of the NFL to new levels, well beyond its mere TV and radio presence of 10-15 years ago.This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
What the hell did you think you were for playing fantasy football?Ripleys said:WTF? Who does he think he is? :(
I second that. There may not be a "big name" doing Fantasy related shows, but you better believe there's a conscious effort by every other "NFL" related production to take the fantasy crowd into account. When we started our rotiserie league back in 1986, there were no people that knew what the hell I was talking about when I mentioned the hobby. Today, I'm hard pressed to find any guy around me that isn't involved in mutliple leagues.Boot said:I think you are seriously underestimating the effect FF has had on all things NFL.It's not the only driver, but it's a big one.mad sweeney said:I would argue that the internet has as much or more impact on TV's coverage. And beyond that, gambling is a much bigger $$ draw than FF, it's just kept quiet. Gamblers are as much in tune with injuries and late breaking news as FFers. Networks just can't overtly cater to gamblers. I just can't take the argument that FF gives "those guys" jobs and that the NFL depends on FFers for its' "recent" surge in popularity and coverage with any seriousness or not. If FF disappeared tomorrow, the league and it's TV ratings would suffer a negligible drop in attendance. Gambling will always be a bigger driving force than FF, and the internet making it easier to gamble weekly is much more responsible for ratings, info and such than FF ever will. Even though FF does have a small piece of the pie, it's not the driving force.It's also a flawed argument to say that FF has increased the presence of everything you say since the internet has been rising steadily and FF has done so on it's piggy back. Any argument you can use for FF's popularity rising cannot be separated from the parallel rise in internet activity. Ff owes it's popularity to the web much more than FF affects the NFL and it's coverage.T Bell said:This is a flawed argument that only looks at how FF has affected the NFL. Yeah, people would still watch the games, but there wouldn't be nearly the ratings for pregame shows, where injury updates happen, or the midweek updates or the online stat presence, etc. FF has taken coverage of the NFL to new levels, well beyond its mere TV and radio presence of 10-15 years ago.mad sweeney said:This argument always makes me laugh. FF surely hasn't hurt football broadcasters and several guys have certainly benefitted from FF prominence. But almost everyone, especially insiders like Glazer, Shefter, Mort etc... as well as the network show guys would all still be making as much money and getting as much airtime. None of the FF specific shows feature really big names as their "star" unless that guy already has a prominent position with the network. TV has to keep up with the internet's glut of info. FF uses a lot of it, but so does the gambling circle which I believe is much more profitable and proliferate than the FF industry.cutler6 said:Always seems like the various guys on Sirius as a whole look down on fantasy football. Wonder if these guys would have jobs or getting paid as much without FF? Seems to me that FF has helped the prominence of the NFL over the last 4-5 years.
I'm there with you. For years a lot of the so-called "experts" -- the commentators and 'brains' on TV, the internet, and print media, couldn't stand fantasy football. They thought it was a ridiculous "hobby" that a small niche of football fans had, and paid no attention to it. Up until the last few years have they really paid attention to it, and companies now spend a lot of money on it now. I think some of the former players on TV still aren't big fans of it, but some seem to have embraced it and even play it themselves. Fantasy football brings in millions of dollars to the TV stations, magazines, websites, etc. You can't ignore that. It may have ended up being companies like Fox Sports and ESPN telling their people to cool it with the "nerd" comments and disparraging remarks about the hobby and those who embrace it. You don't see too many comments like the OP mentions anymore...shakeybarn said:I think he's someone who attacked the hobby early on, and there's no turning back. Now he's in the minority.Tens and tens of millions of geeks... riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Yeah... Blazer.... heh.We will have our revenge.:hitsjoint: What if c.a.t. really spelled dog? :exhale: