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*** Jay Cutler Thread *** (1 Viewer)
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nygiants56
Footballguy
I would think Smith's value increases, I have no figures to support this, just a gut feeling..the offense can be opened up a bit more, since cutler can throw the ball a country mile compared to plummer..perhaps it means more deep passes to walker, leaving smith with plenty of room to roam underneath..?I think smith is a good waiver pickup, for sure..if not for anything else, cutler might be able to sustain longer drives, meaning more time of possession for denver.
pinda
Footballguy
hey Rovers, if you have something on your mind say it
I think Marshall does benefit since they've been practicing quite a bit together. But at the same time I think Rod does get a bump up cause of the softer underneath coverage that should result from Walker getting some deep balls, or at least the threat there.What I'm interested in is how the run game is effected with the deeper balls. Should push some safety coverage back a bit. Also, I know I'm going to get flamed for this, but I think Lelie would have been a great fit here now. Would have been a nice 3 WR set with Walker and Lelie both having the ability going deep.
Rovers
Footballguy
LOL, yeah, but I'm a dynasty league guy. That explains my BM fixation. If Cutler starts, I think I bump ALL of Denver's WR's, but especially Marshall for next year. Cutler and Marshall have a lot of practice time together.hey Rovers, if you have something on your mind say it
Kleck
Footballguy
We don't know. Nobody does at this moment.
This move could backfire and Cutler could fall flat on his face. He might have a great impact on the Denver offense. For now, he's a giant wildcard.
IMO anyone who tells you they know for certain is posturing so they can pull the "I told ya so" later on.
This move could backfire and Cutler could fall flat on his face. He might have a great impact on the Denver offense. For now, he's a giant wildcard.
IMO anyone who tells you they know for certain is posturing so they can pull the "I told ya so" later on.
pigskin pimp
Footballguy
Cutler cannot perform any worse than Plummer. There'd be a million "told you so" if you disagree.Whether or not Cutler can get it done fantasy wise is a different matter.Why do you have to be a 4-8 to insert the QB of the future?The writing was on the wall when Denver traded up to draft Cutler.The Broncos defense has helped them get this far, with the addition of Walker being another key ingredient.If Cutler can get the football within arms reach, instead of Jake's throwing at their feet, I think you can upgrade both Walker and Smith. As for Marshall, reach if you want.
EugeneChung
Footballguy
+1. No telling. Can't be any worse than Plummer. Oh wait. He's a rook.Shick! said:
Warpig
Footballguy
Maybe. But I thought that it was Scheffler that Cutler was bonding with during OTA's and training camp. One of the staff members was posting daily updates about the Bronco's training camps and it seemed like Scheffler was really shining in those camps. Then again...Scheffler would have to be activated to be of any use (friggin Skeletor).Rovers said:
Banger
Footballguy
Plummer has been bad but Cutler could definitely be worse. I don't disagree with the move at all but Cutler could easily be as bad or worse. I don't think the Denver offense will change much, I just think they want Cutler to hit the open wr's that Plummer was missing.pigskin pimp said:
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
MarshallKircusGentlemen, it IS next year for Denver. I could see both of these guys having a good week out of the next 2 or 3 games.Maybe. But I thought that it was Scheffler that Cutler was bonding with during OTA's and training camp. One of the staff members was posting daily updates about the Bronco's training camps and it seemed like Scheffler was really shining in those camps. Then again...Scheffler would have to be activated to be of any use (friggin Skeletor).Rovers said:
The Contrarian
Footballguy
For someone who works for a website who's whole point is to project, you seem awful down on projecting.You heard the man, everyone out. No one knows. You don't have to go home but you can't stay here!Shick! said:
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Banger
Footballguy
I'm not sure why. The kid has a cannon arm and Javon has shown the ability to get behind the defense. Plummer doesn't have the arm strength and tended to float some balls but a big arm is one of Cutler's strengths.
H.K.
Footballguy
Right now there are 32 starting QB's in the NFL, probably about half that number are consistent at finding the open man and getting him the ball accurately and on time. Divide that number by the amouint of people on the planet and its pretty small percentage of people who posess this skill.
Banger
Footballguy
Ok.......but Plummer was one of the 32 that was clearing missing the open wr's based on his completion % and QB rating. From everything I've read Cutler looks lights out in practice and has been blowing Plummer away (which is the reason for the change). Do you know that Cutler has a problem with his accuracy? Looking at his college stats they look pretty good 61%/59% his last two years.These are his positives from his FBG page....Jay Cutler is a tough, well-built athlete with a strong will to win. He has great measurables, and a cannon for an arm. Cutler is a student of the game and is known to spend a lot of time in the film room. He can move around behind the line of scrimmage, and is more athletic that people give him credit for. When protection breaks down, Cutler can break the pocket and pick up significant yardage with his feet. He throws well on the run, and is very adept at the short and underneath passing game. He does have a big arm, and can take shots down the field when necessary. Cutler is very strong as well, as evidenced by his QB record 23 reps at 225 lbs at the combine.
moleculo
Footballguy
are you sure you know what "statistically impossible" means?
Resident A
Footballguy
Rod may be a little better, but dont expect him to explode.
He is an aging possession receiver at this point, nothing more. Instead of his usual 4 for 37, he may see 6 catches for 53 yards. He is not much of a scoring threat.
He is an aging possession receiver at this point, nothing more. Instead of his usual 4 for 37, he may see 6 catches for 53 yards. He is not much of a scoring threat.
moleculo
Footballguy
bingo. This is the guy to keep an eye on. Cutler and Kircus had good repore in pre-season - lots of long TD catches. Presumably, they have been practicing together all season as well.MarshallKircusMaybe. But I thought that it was Scheffler that Cutler was bonding with during OTA's and training camp. One of the staff members was posting daily updates about the Bronco's training camps and it seemed like Scheffler was really shining in those camps. Then again...Scheffler would have to be activated to be of any use (friggin Skeletor).Rovers said:
Gentlemen, it IS next year for Denver.
I could see both of these guys having a good week out of the next 2 or 3 games.
Kleck
Footballguy
Sure, I project, but I'm not going to lie to you. If the standard is to know everything all the time with 100% accuracy you're in for a disappointment. I don't know. Would you rather I guessed? I haven't seen Cutler play in a live NFL game that counts. He might get the jitters and be scared. He could easily pull a Rick Mirer and have no leadership abiliities. It happens. For the moment we have no idea what sort of presence he'll have on the field. Such is life. We wait. We watch. We learn.
aldelgreco
Footballguy
This is a big deal for me, since I am playing for a first round bye. My QB pretty much all season has been Kitna, and I think the Pats tear him a new ##### this week. Pretty slim pickings on the waiver wire, then I thought about Cutler. It will be his first game...SEA is a middle of the road pass defense, and I think he might go big in front of a national audience on the Sunday Night game.
who's with me?
anyone?
who's with me?
anyone?
BoltzNBrew
Footballguy
I picked him up in the only league where I have been eliminated and am starting him against a Bronco fan. Might as well have a little fun even though I am out.
moleculo
Footballguy
considering it. Defenses haven't seen any tape on Cutler yet - they don't know how to game plan for him.
Leinart seems to be the best comparable - taking over for a struggling vet w/o much experience prior.
Leinarts first start:
5 kan | 22 35 253 2 1 | 1 4 0
I expect Cutler to put up around 200 yards, with a couple of TD's and a pick.
Leinart seems to be the best comparable - taking over for a struggling vet w/o much experience prior.
Leinarts first start:
5 kan | 22 35 253 2 1 | 1 4 0
I expect Cutler to put up around 200 yards, with a couple of TD's and a pick.
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CrossEyed
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Not sure about starting him this week, but I am probably going to try to grab him and drop Alex Smith in a start 2 QB league I'm in.
Frank Black
Footballguy
To the moderators: this thread was originally posted as a Rod Smith thread. I believe that Smith deserves his own thread. It's not all about Cutler to the extent that the thread should be merged into a Cutler thread. I agree with most decisions to merge threads, but merging this thread may be a bit excessive.
If you insist on merging the R. Smith thread, can you modify the title so that it attracts input for those looking for a R. Smith thread. Otherwise, maybe someone needs to start another Smith thread.
If you insist on merging the R. Smith thread, can you modify the title so that it attracts input for those looking for a R. Smith thread. Otherwise, maybe someone needs to start another Smith thread.
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H.K.
Footballguy
I'm very good with numbers.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
Would I be insane if I dropped
McNair
Eli
Frye
and picked up
Young
Leinart
Cutler
for the playoff push ?
McNair
Eli
Frye
and picked up
Young
Leinart
Cutler
for the playoff push ?
Ghost Rider
Footballguy
As a Broncos fan, I am excited to finally see how Cutler is going to perform in an NFL game that matters.
I am thinking of starting him over Frye and Alex Smith.
Considering I don't get docked for INT's, I am really tempted to start Cutler. I'd take those numbers.
I read this post last night as a Rod Smith thread. It shouldn't have been merged. 
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
I'm thinking of starting him over Delhomme and Big Ben.
CHEF
Footballguy
Considering I have big trouble at QB, I am starting Cutler. My other options are Plummer, Frye and very little on the wire. So, I am praying Cutler is as good as Shanny thinks he is. Well, he cant be any worse than Plummer (whom I drafted to be my starter this season). Good thing I also drafted LT2, Westbrook & the Ravens D.
Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
I would absolutely drop Frye for Leinart. I would consider dropping McNair for Young. I'd probably hold off on dropping Eli for Cutler, but if Cutler blows up and Eli just blows, I'd consider it.Ron_Mexico said:
I can't believe I just wrote that!Lemmiwinks
Footballguy
I don't know enough about Cutler to make a projection, but his schedule is really, really soft in the playoffs.
Maybe he's worth a look in 2 QB leagues for those enticing matchups.
I'm going to pick him up in hopes of catching lightning in a bottle a la Tony Romo. Not that I'm comparing him to Romo, but it's possible Cutler and Walker develop instant chemistry.
Maybe he's worth a look in 2 QB leagues for those enticing matchups.
I'm going to pick him up in hopes of catching lightning in a bottle a la Tony Romo. Not that I'm comparing him to Romo, but it's possible Cutler and Walker develop instant chemistry.
ebcpastor2004
Footballguy
This is exactly why I picked him up last week.
Here's to hoping he airs it out- ALOT!
Frank Black
Footballguy
Started a Rod Smith thread here.shredhead said:MillenniuM Presents: Frank Black said:
george
Footballguy
My League awards bonus points for rushing yards/TDs for QBs/WRs. (1 pt for 5 yds/8 pt TDs). Strange I know, but it's teh rules.
I'm wondering how mobile Cutler is. Dropping JP Losman as backup QB to pick up another QB. Pickings are slim on waivers.
Was leaning toward Aaron Brooks or Jeff Garcia, but with Cutler taking over in Denver, am considering him as well.
I'm wondering how mobile Cutler is. Dropping JP Losman as backup QB to pick up another QB. Pickings are slim on waivers.
Was leaning toward Aaron Brooks or Jeff Garcia, but with Cutler taking over in Denver, am considering him as well.
Cutler is a mobile athletic QB. He ran for over 1000 yards in his college career and 17 TDs.
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jonessed
Footballguy
He averaged less than 2.8 ypc in college. As a comparison, Jake and Aaron Brooks are all well over 4 ypc and McNabb is over 6. He's mobile for a pocket passer, but he's not a rushing QB. If you are expecting rushing yards I think you are going to be disappointed.
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Your understanding is wrong. For his first two years he was an option QB, it was in his junior year when the switch came to a pocket QB.
