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Jeopardy Baby, Ooooh-ooh-oooooh (2 Viewers)

Mrs. Rannous said:
Ken did it, and I expect that Amy could.  I doubt anyone else would be able to.  On the other hand, Mattea only has to change her betting, rather than her play style.  That might be doable.
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I can see it now.  Mattea has a 10k-5k-4k lead and finds a DD.  Other contestants realize she will likely only wager 2-3k and don't seem worried.  Mattea "Hmm, lets see Ken, (leans sideways on the lectern) I like this category... why don't we, oh I don't know (hand flail), why don't we make it a true daily double." and then makes the James two hand all in push motion. 

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
Ken did it, and I expect that Amy could.  I doubt anyone else would be able to.  On the other hand, Mattea only has to change her betting, rather than her play style.  That might be doable.
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She’s ridiculously fast on the buzzer — but so is anyone who wins as many as 10 games, and there will be at least three others in the tournament.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
Ken did it, and I expect that Amy could.  I doubt anyone else would be able to.  On the other hand, Mattea only has to change her betting, rather than her play style.  That might be doable.
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We’ll have four Superchamps, and they’re 50-50 on Top Down VS Hunting for DDs. Although the latter has been more in vogue since Arthur Chu (2014.) It’s interesting that Amy/Mattea have about the same rate of finding DDs as Matt/Jonathan.

So many good players on the buzzer this year. Player control is everything in tournaments. At that level, all the Ultrachamps will be correct 90-95% of ringing in. Finding DDs (which is a bit of luck but directly a function of player control) is the difference.

WRT Ken & his betting style…he didn’t change for the 2005 Ultimate Tournament of Champions', the 2011 IBM challenge, the 2014 Battle of the Decades, or the 2019 All Stars (the one with teammates.) He did bet more aggressively versus James in the 2020 GoAT Tournament Final. And he remained Top Down flow always.

We’ll see if Mattea switches up. As Matt is not quite as gonzo as James, maybe not, but we won’t know until then.

 
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It's reached the point where Mattea, whom I have liked all along, is now annoying and the games are dull because of so many runaways. I have felt this way with every long time champ, except Amy.

I would like to see them cap the wins to about 15-20. That's enough $$$ for anyone on the show and they still play in the tournament. 5 was probably too low of a limit for wins, but I don't like unlimited.

 
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BobbyLayne said:
We’ll have four Superchamps, and they’re 50-50 on Top Down VS Hunting for DDs. Although the latter has been more in vogue since Arthur Chu (2014.) It’s interesting that Amy/Mattea have about the same rate of finding DDs as Matt/Jonathan.

So many good players on the buzzer this year. Player control is everything in tournaments. At that level, all the Ultrachamps will be correct 90-95% of ringing in. Finding DDs (which is a bit of luck but directly a function of player control) is the difference.

WRT Ken & his betting style…he didn’t change for the 2005 Ultimate Tournament of Champions', the 2011 IBM challenge, the 2014 Battle of the Decades, or the 2019 All Stars (the one with teammates.) He did bet more aggressively versus James in the 2020 GoAT Tournament Final. And he remained Top Down flow always.

We’ll see if Mattea switches up. As Matt is not quite as gonzo as James, maybe not, but we won’t know until then.
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Nobody is as gonzo as James — except maybe Arthur Chu.

I did find it interesting that immediately after James’ run ended, almost every contestant for the next month went for the bottom clues first, as if they had decided that James’s way to play was the “right” one. Eventually things returned to their usual variety (mostly top down with other strategies mixed in).

 
Pip's Invitation said:
Nobody is as gonzo as James — except maybe Arthur Chu.

I did find it interesting that immediately after James’ run ended, almost every contestant for the next month went for the bottom clues first, as if they had decided that James’s way to play was the “right” one. Eventually things returned to their usual variety (mostly top down with other strategies mixed in).
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Matt always started at the bottom. Once he found the DD1, he always went for the true DD kill shot. There were quite a few games he was up $10-12K at the first break.

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Spoiler tags still broke so no comment on Thursday’s FJ (we often watch early on YouTube) but HOLY COW WOW - thought it was very easy clue, surprising result.

 
Mattea makes a ton of sub-optimal plays.  i.e. Always starting with the lowest value clue instead of trying to get lucky and stumble on the DD.

The other woman tonight was quite good and fast on the buzzer.  Too bad she didn't know the easiest FJ in recent memory.

Mattea will get eaten alive in the TOC IMO.

 
Frostillicus said:
I didn't know FJ.
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probably seemed easy bc if you've seen the film - given that it's the #1 AFI movie of all time, not a stretch - then it's an instaget.

over at r/jeopardy they have a daily FJ poll. I went through the last 14 games or so and the % who got it correct was higher than almost any other FJ. The O Canada question on Tue was easier; the John Wilkes Booth Q on Mon and the Antietam Q from Wed were both about as easy. Pretty much all the questions from last week and two weeks ago were harder (somewhat subjectively, they were harder for the reddit sub members.)

 
FJ poll for Thurs., Cinco de Mayo

POLL 

20th CENTURY CINEMA

A black & white newsreel in this film begins: "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure dome decree"

What is Citizen Kane?
256 votes

  • 98
    38.3% Knew it because I recalled that specific thing from the movie
  • 58
    22.7% Didn't recall that specific thing from the movie, but figured it out or guessed correctly
  • 16
    6.3% Guessed incorrectly, but on reveal, realized that I probably should have gotten it
  • 23
    9.0% Guessed incorrectly, and on reveal, wasn't sure how I was supposed to get that
  • 54
    21.1% Didn't have a guess in time
  • 7
    2.7% Other
 
As soon as the FJ clue was read I thought "well Mattea is cooked, that's an even easier clue than the O Canada one" but as the Think! music wound down you could see the blonde lady still searching for the answer...

How many times now has Mattea only had to compete with one other contestant in FJ?  Seems like an inordinate amount of her games have basically only had one challenger for her.  One contestant hovering around zero the whole time is just a non-factor. 

 
wlwiles said:
As soon as the FJ clue was read I thought "well Mattea is cooked, that's an even easier clue than the O Canada one" but as the Think! music wound down you could see the blonde lady still searching for the answer...

How many times now has Mattea only had to compete with one other contestant in FJ?  Seems like an inordinate amount of her games have basically only had one challenger for her.  One contestant hovering around zero the whole time is just a non-factor. 
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five. 

Matt A's streak - 5 players were eliminated before FJ

Amy's streak - 4 players (3 consecutive eliminations in Game 3-5) were eliminated before FJ

Mattea's current streak - 5 players were eliminated before FJ.

she's had three come from behind wins in FJ, which is unusual for an Ultrachamp. two of those were after her 10th win. Only only other Superchamp (David Madden) had that many come from behind wins on the FJ question.

 
wlwiles said:
 A 20 day CANADIAN champion that gets a FJ question about the Canadian National Anthem. I'm sure the producers were relieved that it was a runaway game and not a close match when they tossed her that softball question. 

I know Ken said (and I believe him) that the clues are chosen/assigned way ahead of time, but it couldn't be that hard for the producers to look ahead and realize "oh man this is likely a gimme clue for Mattea, how about we just switch this clue out with one scheduled for next month".  Or maybe they did and opted to leave it in since it was a runaway? 
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FJ today was another massive home field advantage 

 
chet said:
Mattea makes a ton of sub-optimal plays.  i.e. Always starting with the lowest value clue instead of trying to get lucky and stumble on the DD.

The other woman tonight was quite good and fast on the buzzer.  Too bad she didn't know the easiest FJ in recent memory.

Mattea will get eaten alive in the TOC IMO.
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Don't know how to post with spoiler tags

 
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chet said:
Mattea makes a ton of sub-optimal plays.  i.e. Always starting with the lowest value clue instead of trying to get lucky and stumble on the DD.

The other woman tonight was quite good and fast on the buzzer.  Too bad she didn't know the easiest FJ in recent memory.

Mattea will get eaten alive in the TOC IMO.
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Mattea cost herself the game because of this IMO.  With four clues left and no DD yet in R1, Mattea chose the $200 clue.  The eventual champion got it right and chose the next lowest $600 clue which was the DD.  Even if you are not comfortable with the category, denying your opponents' access to the DD is of utmost importance.

 
saw a Tweet from Mattea last night - she had traveled to her hometown (Halifax)

pretty much expected today to be the day

Danielle would have sat through 4 episodes before playing today’s game 

she for sure knew how Mattea was going to bet on FJ

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Game Stats:   

Danielle $6,200 Coryat, 11 correct, 3 incorrect, 21.05% in first on buzzer (12/57), 0/0 on rebound attempts (on 5 rebound opportunities)

Mattea $17,800 Coryat, 28 correct, 3 incorrect, 45.61% in first on buzzer (26/57), 3/4 on rebound attempts (on 6 rebound opportunities)

Betsy $7,400 Coryat, 9 correct, 4 incorrect, 19.30% in first on buzzer (11/57), 1/2 on rebound attempts (on 5 rebound opportunities)
Combined Coryat Score: $31,400 

ASIDE - low score reflecting the 10 wrong answers, well played games are above 40K

Lach Trash: $14,600 (on 12 Triple Stumpers)
Coryat lost to incorrect responses (less double-correct responses): $8,000 

Mattea Roach, career statistics:
661 correct, 63 incorrect
33/39 on rebound attempts (on 93 rebound opportunities)
46.02% in first on buzzer (625/1358)
29/36 on Daily Doubles (Net Earned: $57,200)
17/24 in Final Jeopardy
Average Coryat: $20,275

FJ betting was standard / chalk

Final Jeopardy! betting suggestions:
(Mattea $19,200 Danielle $11,400 Betsy $7,400)

Mattea: Standard cover bet today is $3,601.

Betsy: You can’t win unless Mattea overbets; the more money you have, though, the better your chances of a miracle!

Danielle: You need to get to at least $15,600; your minimum bet today is $4,200. You can bet up to everything, though, in order to maximize your potential winnings.

 
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Mr. Mojo said:
Wow, a smart bet wins the game!  What a novel concept.

And Mattea was a great sport about it. 
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Good kid. First thing she said to the new champ was “You did everything right!” Also, they had an extra long break between the Thursday and Friday taping, and she spent it getting to know Danielle. Said she was happy she lost to someone she likes.

(such a girl way of thinking & I love it, something my daughter would say)

Anatomy of a 23 game streak broken

Good read, though I was devastated the 23 year old took 26 posts to complete her thoughts. Wasted opportunity at symmetry.

 
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Mayim is back, and so is the clamoring to give the permanent job to Ken.

Pacing seems slower with her - but maybe that’s just a function of ebbs and flows of player quality. I think yesterday’s game had 16 triple stumpers, 11 of which nobody rang in.

Polling is 70/30 in Ken Jennings favor. The producers seem determined to ignore that.

 
BobbyLayne said:
Mayim is back, and so is the clamoring to give the permanent job to Ken.

Pacing seems slower with her - but maybe that’s just a function of ebbs and flows of player quality. I think yesterday’s game had 16 triple stumpers, 11 of which nobody rang in.

Polling is 70/30 in Ken Jennings favor. The producers seem determined to ignore that.
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She is slow in confirming a correct answer nearly every time.  That slows things down a lot imo

I'm thinking 'the competition' is giving them the added bump in attention that helps the show's ratings?

 
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Mrs. Rannous said:
I had no idea, and I've read the book.  And seen the movie.  
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Looking at yesterday’s FJ poll on r/jeopardy I think you’re right. Not as easy as I supposed.

For guys of a certain age, GF I & II quotes or references are as common as Seinfeld. School, military, university, work - pretty universal element of male bonding. But apparently my experiences aren’t as common as I thought.

 
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Ratings are twice as high with Ken as Mayim.

Because of the way in S38 they have been announcing them -  for Ken it’s “And now hosting J!” versus “the host of J!” for Mayim - I thought the decision was more or less made. But now I’m reading the final call will be made in July.

I don’t know how the producers can go any other way. Jennings seems like tje overwhelmingly better choice. Give the fans what they want.

 
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BobbyLayne said:
Who. doesn't know who killed Carlo in Godfather I?

smh
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I saw the category and thought "Oh no, here we go again". (I had missed the last 3 finals before it, including picking the wrong Hemingway book on Monday night.)

Oh, it's a Godfather question....1 second later I was laughing.  :lol:

 
Ken is natural up there.  He's been on both sides of the stage now more than anyone else.  He knows the answers to the questions, he can move the game along with a quick "good/yep/right/you got it".  Mayim drives me bonkers with the pause after every answer, as if she's waiting for someone else to tell her that was the right answer and to confirm it to the person answering.  She is stiff, she's overly loud, overly enthusiastic, overly trying to be polite, overly happy, just overly everything.  

Someone on r/jeopardy compared her to Jimmy Fallon, and now I can't think of anything else when she's up there. Every single thing that happens is just the most awesome or impressive thing ever to her.  One more "oooooh a true Daily Double..." and I want to watch the show on mute with the captions turned on.  /rant

 
wlwiles said:
Ken is natural up there.  He's been on both sides of the stage now more than anyone else.  He knows the answers to the questions, he can move the game along with a quick "good/yep/right/you got it".  Mayim drives me bonkers with the pause after every answer, as if she's waiting for someone else to tell her that was the right answer and to confirm it to the person answering.  She is stiff, she's overly loud, overly enthusiastic, overly trying to be polite, overly happy, just overly everything.  

Someone on r/jeopardy compared her to Jimmy Fallon, and now I can't think of anything else when she's up there. Every single thing that happens is just the most awesome or impressive thing ever to her.  One more "oooooh a true Daily Double..." and I want to watch the show on mute with the captions turned on.  /rant
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I agree - her manner disrupts the game instead of helping it flow. I notice it even more when she comes in right after Ken.

 
wlwiles said:
  Mayim drives me bonkers with the pause after every answer, as if she's waiting for someone else to tell her that was the right answer and to confirm it to the person answering. 
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Sometimes I think this is the explanation and other times I think she might just be taking the time to decide which version of "that is correct" she should say.  Either way, it's really annoying.

 
Mrs. Rannous said:
Aaaaaaand I'm back to screaming at the bad wagering in FJ.
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Champs bet was too risky; should have bet enough to cover a 2nd place double up. The other two seemed on point.

from today’s recap at The Jeopardy Fan

Final Jeopardy! betting suggestions:
(Ryan $16,200 Nick $14,600kk Divya $4,000)

Ryan: Standard cover bet today is $13,001. (If you want to try getting fancy and have a good read that Nick knows their betting strategy, a bet between $5,000 and $8,198 may eke out a win—but you’d be taking a big risk.) (Actual bet: $8,000).

Nick: Bet between $3,201 and $6,599 to ensure second place, and a win on a Triple Stumper. (Actual bet: $6,599)

Divya: Limit your bet today to $799 as Ryan falls to $3,199 if he covers and is incorrect. (Actual bet: $700)

 
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