ya maybe wearing down the d with the bigger back. gio so much better then hill. YPC is insane.Benched him today as well. Very surprised with the lack of snaps for Gio so far.
??ya maybe wearing down the d with the bigger back. gio so much better then hill. YPC is insane.Benched him today as well. Very surprised
with the lack of snaps for Gio so far.
Hue Jackson didn't sugar coat the drop off from last year, but still expressed faith in an eventual return to form - quote from the article, "He's going to be a huge part down the stretch."Bengals OC on Hill: He still doesn't play like I want yet
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000562216/article/bengals-oc-on-hill-he-still-doesnt-play-like-i-want-yet
I have owned Hill and Gio for the past few years and I am pretty bullish on him the rest of the season. He cannot play any worse than he has, and I feel that the Bengals are going to begin to lean on the running game soon. There will be weeks when he does poorly, but I am seeing many good things ahead for him. I would definitely make a deal this week, as it will be too late soon. You are crazy to offer Cobb or ODB for him. If the Hill owner does not have Gio, his value has to be pretty low right now.So, I haven't been following hill much other than seeing that he is obviously not what fantasy players thought he would be this season. That said, I'm intrigued in him as an Ideal buy low candidate.
I just lost foster for the season and I have plenty of good Wrs. Thinking of offering up Cobb or obj for hill.
Not looking for trade advice. Just looking for opinions of my brethren who HAVE been following the hill/Bernard/cincy situation more cloy than I have.
Am I see this clearly? It seems like hill has nowhere to go but up from here on out. Cold weather coming. Bengals will likely rely on the run more. He's the bantering ram and the gl back. And to his credit, while the yardage and the snap counts aren't there yet, he has 5 tds on the season, which in pretty sure ranks highly this year in the Rb pool.
Good buy low?
Eta: his schedule also looks pretty favorable too. A couple of tough matchups but for the most part he faces middling or poor run defenses rest of the way.
I would offer Diggs and then Moncrief next. Do not give up Cobb, he is going to blow up.I have a glut of WRs with OBJ, ARob, Moncrief, Cobb, Diggs and then Dez coming back soon.
My RB situation is OK but not great with Martin, Stewart, Gore and Blount.
I contemplated offering Moncrief for Hill but figured that'd be a low ball offer. Would Cobb for Hill make sense in my situation?
Yes....Eifert is the same as Hill except he is a TE. You have no idea when he is going to have either a good game or a clunker and that will not change. With Hill, if Gio gets hurt or even nicked up for a few games, you are sitting on a goldmine!!!For everyone's knowledge, I offered Cobb for hill and the hill owner said he was set at wr. He asked for eifert instead. So I can move eifert for hill rt now if I wanted. Which I'm not completely opposed to doing. Eifert has been great but hill is only 10 Pts behind him in standard scoring and if you believe that hill will only get better than he should easily out score eifert going forward.
He has a knee injury???Any word on his knee injury?
He's looked like a different, worse back, all year. If he's back to old form he might be a back half monster.
It was mentioned in the thread before as why he hasn't looked the same. Not sure how it was so quite. Nothing serious. Maybe the bye was enough to get 100%.He has a knee injury???Any word on his knee injury?
He's looked like a different, worse back, all year. If he's back to old form he might be a back half monster.
Exactly. If people are getting him at cheap prices now, knock yourself out. No idea why you would be trading top talent for him as if the 1st 7 weeks didn't happen though.Those arent buy lows
I think it's a combination of the knee and the fumbles- he's much more hesitant now than he was last year, almost like he's thinking too much about holding onto the ball instead of just running.It was mentioned in the thread before as why he hasn't looked the same. Not sure how it was so quite. Nothing serious. Maybe the bye was enough to get 100%.He has a knee injury???Any word on his knee injury?
He's looked like a different, worse back, all year. If he's back to old form he might be a back half monster.
Bernard isn't the reason he has been terrible this year. If he gets hurt I don't see how that will make Hill play better.Yes....Eifert is the same as Hill except he is a TE. You have no idea when he is going to have either a good game or a clunker and that will not change. With Hill, if Gio gets hurt or even nicked up for a few games, you are sitting on a goldmine!!!For everyone's knowledge, I offered Cobb for hill and the hill owner said he was set at wr. He asked for eifert instead. So I can move eifert for hill rt now if I wanted. Which I'm not completely opposed to doing. Eifert has been great but hill is only 10 Pts behind him in standard scoring and if you believe that hill will only get better than he should easily out score eifert going forward.
Eh...I am thinking that he will round back into form. He has not played bad in every game, if Gio is out he will be getting 20 plus touches. Even if he is playing below average, in that offense you are looking at fantasy gold.Bernard isn't the reason he has been terrible this year. If he gets hurt I don't see how that will make Hill play better.Yes....Eifert is the same as Hill except he is a TE. You have no idea when he is going to have either a good game or a clunker and that will not change. With Hill, if Gio gets hurt or even nicked up for a few games, you are sitting on a goldmine!!!For everyone's knowledge, I offered Cobb for hill and the hill owner said he was set at wr. He asked for eifert instead. So I can move eifert for hill rt now if I wanted. Which I'm not completely opposed to doing. Eifert has been great but hill is only 10 Pts behind him in standard scoring and if you believe that hill will only get better than he should easily out score eifert going forward.
Exactly. If people are getting him at cheap prices now, knock yourself out. No idea why you would be trading top talent for him as if the 1st 7 weeks didn't happen though.Those arent buy lows
interesting cause i was offered Hill for Diggs straight up as well.In one of my dynasty leagues he was moved for Diggs straight up. Interesting trade since the guy giving up Diggs needs WR help more than he needs RB.
Hill for a guy that was on waivers a weeka ago? Pass.Hill for diggs in redraft ok but dyno no thanks
haha obviously you haven't watched diggs play nor own him.. Guys a stud.Hill for a guy that was on waivers a weeka ago? Pass.Hill for diggs in redraft ok but dyno no thanks
People said the same things about Patterson and Johnson too. I'm pumping the brakes when it comes to a Vikings WR that looks good.haha obviously you haven't watched diggs play nor own him.. Guys a stud.Hill for a guy that was on waivers a weeka ago? Pass.Hill for diggs in redraft ok but dyno no thanks
Except neither of those guys accompliced yet in their entire careers what diggs has accomplished in 3 games. This logic will lead to missed opportunities. And clearly it has already as you have missed the boat on a season changing wr off the wire.People said the same things about Patterson and Johnson too. I'm pumping the brakes when it comes to a Vikings WR that looks good.haha obviously you haven't watched diggs play nor own him.. Guys a stud.Hill for a guy that was on waivers a weeka ago? Pass.Hill for diggs in redraft ok but dyno no thanks
Actually, I didn't since I only play in dynasty leagues. I'm not saying he is those guys. Just saying there have been 2 Minnesota WRs in recent years who people have paid highly for that haven't exactly panned out.Except neither of those guys accompliced yet in their entire careers what diggs has accomplished in 3 games. This logic will lead to missed opportunities. And clearly it has already as you have missed the boat on a season changing wr off the wire.People said the same things about Patterson and Johnson too. I'm pumping the brakes when it comes to a Vikings WR that looks good.haha obviously you haven't watched diggs play nor own him.. Guys a stud.Hill for a guy that was on waivers a weeka ago? Pass.Hill for diggs in redraft ok but dyno no thanks
People said that about Patterson? He's been a dynamic return but I don't think people loved his his ability as a WR.Actually, I didn't since I only play in dynasty leagues. I'm not saying he is those guys. Just saying there have been 2 Minnesota WRs in recent years who people have paid highly for that haven't exactly panned out.Except neither of those guys accompliced yet in their entire careers what diggs has accomplished in 3 games. This logic will lead to missed opportunities. And clearly it has already as you have missed the boat on a season changing wr off the wire.People said the same things about Patterson and Johnson too. I'm pumping the brakes when it comes to a Vikings WR that looks good.haha obviously you haven't watched diggs play nor own him.. Guys a stud.Hill for a guy that was on waivers a weeka ago? Pass.Hill for diggs in redraft ok but dyno no thanks
The good thing is it was his last game.Sorry haters. No matter how hard you cross your fingers, Hill isnt going anywhere.
ESPN Bengals reporter Coley Harvey said the team is "committed" to using Jeremy Hill despite his early-season struggles.
Hill has averaged more than four yards a carry in just one game and has two fumbles in 74 attempts. Giovani Bernard has averaged more than 4.75 yards per carry in all but one game and offers more than Hill in the passing game. Still, Hill is the better early-down and short-yardage option, and he showed enough in his rookie campaign for the Bengals to give him quite a bit of leash. Hill and Bernard will continue to share work, but Hill is the better weekly bet for touchdowns.
I have been doing this for weeks. Too difficult picking which one will go off, week after week.Both Gio and Hill may both be startable...even on the same fantasy team. Something I'm debating this week w/ byes and injuries adding up.
Yeah, if they are saying it in the media, it must be true.Not worried at all. If my team sucked though I would probably be panicking so I get the fear and frustration from some in here. A balanced team can remedy any slow start. Still a believer in Hill and apparently so are the Bengals.