Jerome Simpson WR - 2012 (1 Viewer)

[Eminence]

Jerome Simpson is a Free Agent next season and it's very doubtful the Bengals would franchise him. He put up:

50 CATCHES / 725 YARDS / 4TD

With more targets you'd have to think he'd be able to put up at least WR2 numbers. With the emergence of AJ Green, everyone kind of forgot about the kid and can be had very-cheap for his value.

Article suggesting doubt on him returning:

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=4859&line=226223&spln=1

Dynasty BUY. Even if he stays in Cinci.

If you don't know this guy is a player watch these highlights just from this season:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/09000d5d824492cb/WK11-Can-t-Miss-Simpson-s-sticky-fingers

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d824eed96/Simpson-battles-for-a-TD

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8239bfaa/Dalton-Simpson-connection

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d8244b928/Simpson-dives-for-the-catch

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d823da027/QB-Dalton-to-WR-Simpson-15-yd-pass-TD

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-fantasy/09000d5d8225ca51/QB-Dalton-to-WR-Simpson-31-yd-pass

http://www.nfl.com/videos/auto/09000d5d82560c1b/QB-Dalton-to-WR-Simpson-19-yd-pass-TD

 

[finito]

He needs to be more consistant but the talent is there.

 

[FavreCo]

He needs to be more consistant but the talent is there.

Physical freak. Another guy who would be smart to stay put. Just starting to get things going as a classic example fo 3 yr WR. I say more upside than Meachem but both would fail miserably in Jax the way Jerry Porter did when he took the $.Would be a smart move to go replace Wayne with Luck in Indy.

 

[jurb26]

Simpson is a WR2 in the NFL and therefor would be wise to stay in Cinci, where Green is the WR1. He's as athletically gifted as anyone but that doesn't mean he's ever going to be an elite WR.

 

[QuizGuy66]

50 catches (46th in the league) on 105 targets (28th in the league)

95th in the league in catch percentage (for those with at least 2 targets/game)

The issue isn't that Simpson isn't get enough targets. It's that he's not catching the ball, even with the highlight-reel plays he occasionally makes.

We've been waiting for his emergence for 4 years now. The Bengals definitely won't be franchising him and it's an open question as to whether or not they'll keep him - certainly not for a big $ contract.

-QG

 

[cvnpoka]

most bengals observers, writers and pundits expect the team to find a replacement for simpson and let him walk. he is criticized for lack of route and system iq which causes mistakes and disappearances. i dunno, they watch him everyday in practice, but it sure sucks to give up on that kind of ability.

 

[SmoovySmoov]

I think we should dig up the thread about the marijuana bust, and everyone in that thread who said "He's toast. Drop him now." should be banned from FBG for life. I'm just talkin here.

 

[jurb26]

most bengals observers, writers and pundits expect the team to find a replacement for simpson and let him walk. he is criticized for lack of route and system iq which causes mistakes and disappearances. i dunno, they watch him everyday in practice, but it sure sucks to give up on that kind of ability.

I was once told by a coach in my freshman year;"all that speed is doing for you is putting you in the wrong place faster!"It was a quality line that even made me laugh as I was getting scolded on the field trying to learn the idiosyncrasies of the cover 2 defense.I think it somewhat applies here...

 

[ConnSKINS26]

I think we should dig up the thread about the marijuana bust, and everyone in that thread who said "He's toast. Drop him now." should be banned from FBG for life. I'm just talkin here.

I dunno. All those panic attacks led to me grabbing him off the wire in one league, which I was pretty shocked by. I'm pretty happy about that.

 

[fantasizing]

50 catches (46th in the league) on 105 targets (28th in the league)95th in the league in catch percentage (for those with at least 2 targets/game)The issue isn't that Simpson isn't get enough targets. It's that he's not catching the ball, even with the highlight-reel plays he occasionally makes.We've been waiting for his emergence for 4 years now. The Bengals definitely won't be franchising him and it's an open question as to whether or not they'll keep him - certainly not for a big $ contract.-QG

Thats actually a decent amount of targets. I'm guessing most elite WR1 get 150+ targets, catch about 80-100 balls, for ~60% catch percentage. So, either Simpson is dropping alot of balls or A. Dalton is missing badly.Not sure what AJ Green's catch percentage is?

 

[jurb26]

50 catches (46th in the league) on 105 targets (28th in the league)

95th in the league in catch percentage (for those with at least 2 targets/game)

The issue isn't that Simpson isn't get enough targets. It's that he's not catching the ball, even with the highlight-reel plays he occasionally makes.

We've been waiting for his emergence for 4 years now. The Bengals definitely won't be franchising him and it's an open question as to whether or not they'll keep him - certainly not for a big $ contract.

-QG

Thats actually a decent amount of targets. I'm guessing most elite WR1 get 150+ targets, catch about 80-100 balls, for ~60% catch percentage. So, either Simpson is dropping alot of balls or A. Dalton is missing badly.

Not sure what AJ Green's catch percentage is?

Catch rate stats.According to this, Green caught just over 55% of his targets. Simpson was at 47%. Green had a catch rate of 40% on deep passes, one of the best in the NFL. Simpson was at 24% on deep passes.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

 

[cvnpoka]

50 catches (46th in the league) on 105 targets (28th in the league)

95th in the league in catch percentage (for those with at least 2 targets/game)

The issue isn't that Simpson isn't get enough targets. It's that he's not catching the ball, even with the highlight-reel plays he occasionally makes.

We've been waiting for his emergence for 4 years now. The Bengals definitely won't be franchising him and it's an open question as to whether or not they'll keep him - certainly not for a big $ contract.

-QG

Thats actually a decent amount of targets. I'm guessing most elite WR1 get 150+ targets, catch about 80-100 balls, for ~60% catch percentage. So, either Simpson is dropping alot of balls or A. Dalton is missing badly.

Not sure what AJ Green's catch percentage is?

Catch rate stats.According to this, Green caught just over 55% of his targets. Simpson was at 47%. Green had a catch rate of 40% on deep passes, one of the best in the NFL. Simpson was at 24% on deep passes.

i think you are misinterpreting the deep pass %. it describes the % of targets that were deep passes and not the catch % on deep passes.

 

[az_prof]

most bengals observers, writers and pundits expect the team to find a replacement for simpson and let him walk. he is criticized for lack of route and system iq which causes mistakes and disappearances. i dunno, they watch him everyday in practice, but it sure sucks to give up on that kind of ability.

I would sell him for whatever you can get. I agree with this post and haven't seen anything to make me think Cin sees him as a player to groom.

 

[HellToupee]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

he was never charged

 

[HellToupee]

most bengals observers, writers and pundits expect the team to find a replacement for simpson and let him walk. he is criticized for lack of route and system iq which causes mistakes and disappearances. i dunno, they watch him everyday in practice, but it sure sucks to give up on that kind of ability.

I would sell him for whatever you can get. I agree with this post and haven't seen anything to make me think Cin sees him as a player to groom.

From these comments I agree with you

Bengals offensive coordinator Jay Gruden indicated in his season-ending press conference that impending free agent Jerome Simpson's consistency was an issue in his first year as a starter."Jerome had moments of greatness and moments of, 'what is going on?'" said Gruden. "We just need to have a lot more consistent group where Andy (Dalton) knows where everybody is going to be at all times."

 

[fantasizing]

50 catches (46th in the league) on 105 targets (28th in the league)

95th in the league in catch percentage (for those with at least 2 targets/game)

The issue isn't that Simpson isn't get enough targets. It's that he's not catching the ball, even with the highlight-reel plays he occasionally makes.

We've been waiting for his emergence for 4 years now. The Bengals definitely won't be franchising him and it's an open question as to whether or not they'll keep him - certainly not for a big $ contract.

-QG

Thats actually a decent amount of targets. I'm guessing most elite WR1 get 150+ targets, catch about 80-100 balls, for ~60% catch percentage.

So, either Simpson is dropping alot of balls or A. Dalton is missing badly.

Not sure what AJ Green's catch percentage is?

Catch rate stats.According to this, Green caught just over 55% of his targets. Simpson was at 47%. Green had a catch rate of 40% on deep passes, one of the best in the NFL. Simpson was at 24% on deep passes.

i think you are misinterpreting the deep pass %. it describes the % of targets that were deep passes and not the catch % on deep passes.

Yeah, that's how I read it it as well. Although Im not sure what the definition of a deep pass is. Is it a pass over 40 yards?M. Colston has a catch percentage of 74.8% !!! Amazing. He catches three quarters of all passes thrown in his direction...

And one in four of those passes are deep passes!

 

[QuizGuy66]

FBG has the target and catch percentage stats too btw for subscribers

For those meeting the 2-target per week minimum, Colston topped the league with a 73.4% catch percentage. Amazing.

Devin Aromashodu was the worst at 31.0%

Note to self on this stat Greg Salas in the brief window he had for the Rams before getting his leg broken was over 70% on his 38 targets in 6 games played.

57% was the median.

For the Bengals - Hawkins was 67.6%, Green was 56.5%, Caldwell was 54.4%, Simpson 47.6% (bottom 20%)

-QG

 

[fantasizing]

How did the Packer receivers do relative to the average/median?

Clearly, part of Colston's high catch percentage is D. Brees' accuracy.

Same can probably be said for Rodgers.

 

[cvnpoka]

Yeah, that's how I read it it as well. Although Im not sure what the definition of a deep pass is. Is it a pass over 40 yards?M. Colston has a catch percentage of 74.8% !!! Amazing. He catches three quarters of all passes thrown in his direction...And one in four of those passes are deep passes!

i think they consider a pass over 15 yards in the air as deep. pff has different numbers and they def use 20 yards. and yes, was pretty surprised to see colston thriving in such fashion.

 

[jurb26]

50 catches (46th in the league) on 105 targets (28th in the league)

95th in the league in catch percentage (for those with at least 2 targets/game)

The issue isn't that Simpson isn't get enough targets. It's that he's not catching the ball, even with the highlight-reel plays he occasionally makes.

We've been waiting for his emergence for 4 years now. The Bengals definitely won't be franchising him and it's an open question as to whether or not they'll keep him - certainly not for a big $ contract.

-QG

Thats actually a decent amount of targets. I'm guessing most elite WR1 get 150+ targets, catch about 80-100 balls, for ~60% catch percentage.

So, either Simpson is dropping alot of balls or A. Dalton is missing badly.

Not sure what AJ Green's catch percentage is?

Catch rate stats.According to this, Green caught just over 55% of his targets. Simpson was at 47%. Green had a catch rate of 40% on deep passes, one of the best in the NFL. Simpson was at 24% on deep passes.

i think you are misinterpreting the deep pass %. it describes the % of targets that were deep passes and not the catch % on deep passes.

Yeah, that's how I read it it as well. Although Im not sure what the definition of a deep pass is. Is it a pass over 40 yards?M. Colston has a catch percentage of 74.8% !!! Amazing. He catches three quarters of all passes thrown in his direction...

And one in four of those passes are deep passes!

You're right, I didn't realize that until you guess pointed it out. It says that the deep pass is a pass of 15 yds or more. Not sure I think that really should qualify myself.

 

[ExaltedOne]

Simpson reminds me of an early Brandon Lloyd. All flash, no substance. He can only hope to have a late resurgence after a few more years of honing his skills.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

he was never charged

dropped like one of his passes

 

[cheese]

I'm not all that impressed as a Bengals fan, but I think for fantasy purposes you should prefer him to leave. Shipley back and a full season of Hawkins will probably divide up the catches more next year. Green also missed some time this year where Simpson got more balls IIRC.

As a player, it took him 4 years to finally start showing some of his potential as a playmaker on Sundays instead of just in practice/August. I suppose if you're a buyer, you could compare him to Victor Cruz, but Andy Dalton is pretty far from Eli Manning at this point and the offensive philosophies aren't close.

For all the complaints about his mistakes, I still could see the Bengals resigning him. They really don't have extra playmakers on the offense and Mike Brown usually likes to keep his own FA rather than compete in the open market. Lewis must like him at least a little to stick with him all this time.

Mostly unrelated, but I have no idea how he doesn't fumble more than he does. I have never seen such blatant disregard for ball security at any level and he almost always gets away with it. Maybe his hands are just that big and strong, but it gives me a heart attack with every touch he gets.

 

[Kirby]

I'm not a fan. Blessed with all of that athleticism and the biggest hands on earth and he still can't catch a football. He's really good at letting everyone know when he gets a first down though.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Jerome Simpson is a Free Agent next season and it's very doubtful the Bengals would franchise him. He put up:

50 CATCHES / 725 YARDS / 4TD

With more targets you'd have to think he'd be able to put up at least WR2 numbers. With the emergence of AJ Green, everyone kind of forgot about the kid and can be had very-cheap for his value.

He has a failry high number of targets (105) last season - I don't think it's a given that he'll see that many more wherever he ends up.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

he was never charged

dropped like one of his passes

interesting, his brother or something was right? fall guy?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

he was never charged

dropped like one of his passes

interesting, his brother or something was right? fall guy?

wiki says:In September 2011, police searched Simpson's home after intercepting a package to be delivered to his home containing 2 pounds of marijuana. When police arrived at Simpson's home, he allowed them to search his home. Upon searching the home, the police found 6 more pounds of marijuana, scales, empty packages similar to the one intercepted by the police. Simpson's teammate Anthony Collins and his wife were at the residence and were also questioned by the police. No arrests were made.[3] Simpson continued to play during the 2011 season. The NFL has stated it will wait to decide if it will discipline Simpson until the police investigation is completed.

 

[saintfool]

i'm kind of willing to cut him some slack. this was his first year as a starter after all and it was with the bengals. he's talented but really hit-or-miss in his production. i would expect him to improve, even marginally, next year.

he's a WR4. he's a buy/hold in dynasty but a bye week replacement in redraft leagues.

 

[Touchdown There]

Anyone ever look into Jerome Simpson's numbers when he is the primary X receiver the last few years?

 

[QuizGuy66]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

he was never charged

dropped like one of his passes

I don't think the investigation was ever closed. There have been no updates one way or the other.-QG

 

[Touchdown There]

Anyone ever look into Jerome Simpson's numbers when he is the primary X receiver the last few years?

I'll do the leg work on this one.2010 - TO goes down in weeks 16 and 17. Jerome Simpson is inserted at the X.

Week 16 - 6 catches on 7 targets, 124 yards, 2 TDs

Week 17 - 12 catches on 14 targets, 123 yards, 1 TD

2011 - AJ Green does not play in week 11 and Simpson moves over to the X.

Week 11 - 8 catches on 13 targets, 152 yards

In short, you guys can call him a #2, #3, or #4 WR all you want but he is a #1 in terms of talent. He may win an ESPY for his flip into the endzone. Gruden comes out this week talking about how Simpson is not "consistent". Newsflash Gruden: Jerome Simpson did not want to be the complementary receiver, he wanted to start at the X. You had him playing the wrong position.

Vincent Jackson is probably gone in SD. What if Simpson is signed to fill the X role for the Chargers? All of you would want a piece of that. Jerome Simpson's value is directly tied to whether or not the marijuana case has been closed and which team steps up to sign him. If there is ever a time to have Simpson on your dynasty league roster, now is the time.

 

[todisco1]

Anyone ever look into Jerome Simpson's numbers when he is the primary X receiver the last few years?

I'll do the leg work on this one.2010 - TO goes down in weeks 16 and 17. Jerome Simpson is inserted at the X.

Week 16 - 6 catches on 7 targets, 124 yards, 2 TDs

Week 17 - 12 catches on 14 targets, 123 yards, 1 TD

2011 - AJ Green does not play in week 11 and Simpson moves over to the X.

Week 11 - 8 catches on 13 targets, 152 yards

In short, you guys can call him a #2, #3, or #4 WR all you want but he is a #1 in terms of talent. He may win an ESPY for his flip into the endzone. Gruden comes out this week talking about how Simpson is not "consistent". Newsflash Gruden: Jerome Simpson did not want to be the complementary receiver, he wanted to start at the X. You had him playing the wrong position.

Vincent Jackson is probably gone in SD. What if Simpson is signed to fill the X role for the Chargers? All of you would want a piece of that. Jerome Simpson's value is directly tied to whether or not the marijuana case has been closed and which team steps up to sign him. If there is ever a time to have Simpson on your dynasty league roster, now is the time.

so you're saying he only produces as the primary receiver, and that if he's moved over to the #2 he suffers through horrible inconsistency?

 

[Touchdown There]

Anyone ever look into Jerome Simpson's numbers when he is the primary X receiver the last few years?

I'll do the leg work on this one.2010 - TO goes down in weeks 16 and 17. Jerome Simpson is inserted at the X.

Week 16 - 6 catches on 7 targets, 124 yards, 2 TDs

Week 17 - 12 catches on 14 targets, 123 yards, 1 TD

2011 - AJ Green does not play in week 11 and Simpson moves over to the X.

Week 11 - 8 catches on 13 targets, 152 yards

In short, you guys can call him a #2, #3, or #4 WR all you want but he is a #1 in terms of talent. He may win an ESPY for his flip into the endzone. Gruden comes out this week talking about how Simpson is not "consistent". Newsflash Gruden: Jerome Simpson did not want to be the complementary receiver, he wanted to start at the X. You had him playing the wrong position.

Vincent Jackson is probably gone in SD. What if Simpson is signed to fill the X role for the Chargers? All of you would want a piece of that. Jerome Simpson's value is directly tied to whether or not the marijuana case has been closed and which team steps up to sign him. If there is ever a time to have Simpson on your dynasty league roster, now is the time.

so you're saying he only produces as the primary receiver, and that if he's moved over to the #2 he suffers through horrible inconsistency?

Give what I wrote another read. I never said he was inconsistent, Gruden did AFTER the Bengals lost and they no longer have rights to Jerome Simpson. Who do you think placed Simpson in the #2 role? He knows Simpson is not happy about it and you are hearing coach speak because the Bengals now need to search for a new starting WR.

 

[todisco1]

Anyone ever look into Jerome Simpson's numbers when he is the primary X receiver the last few years?

I'll do the leg work on this one.2010 - TO goes down in weeks 16 and 17. Jerome Simpson is inserted at the X.

Week 16 - 6 catches on 7 targets, 124 yards, 2 TDs

Week 17 - 12 catches on 14 targets, 123 yards, 1 TD

2011 - AJ Green does not play in week 11 and Simpson moves over to the X.

Week 11 - 8 catches on 13 targets, 152 yards

In short, you guys can call him a #2, #3, or #4 WR all you want but he is a #1 in terms of talent. He may win an ESPY for his flip into the endzone. Gruden comes out this week talking about how Simpson is not "consistent". Newsflash Gruden: Jerome Simpson did not want to be the complementary receiver, he wanted to start at the X. You had him playing the wrong position.

Vincent Jackson is probably gone in SD. What if Simpson is signed to fill the X role for the Chargers? All of you would want a piece of that. Jerome Simpson's value is directly tied to whether or not the marijuana case has been closed and which team steps up to sign him. If there is ever a time to have Simpson on your dynasty league roster, now is the time.

so you're saying he only produces as the primary receiver, and that if he's moved over to the #2 he suffers through horrible inconsistency?

Give what I wrote another read. I never said he was inconsistent, Gruden did AFTER the Bengals lost and they no longer have rights to Jerome Simpson. Who do you think placed Simpson in the #2 role? He knows Simpson is not happy about it and you are hearing coach speak because the Bengals now need to search for a new starting WR.

Still not quite sure what you're saying. Are you suggesting Simpson should start over AJ Green? Simpson by most accounts WAS inconsistent this season, it wasn't just Gruden saying this after the season. It's been brought up time and time again this year. You can look it up easy enough. Here's one from AOL:http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-12-26/cincinnati-bengals-team-report-jerome-simpsons-giant-leap-to-stardom

 

[Kirby]

What happened in that drug bust? He is clear of all charges?

he was never charged

dropped like one of his passes

I don't think the investigation was ever closed. There have been no updates one way or the other.-QG

update

 

[QuizGuy66]

So there you go. It's that much less likely they'll keep him after that inconsistent year.

-QG

 

[Bri]

Simpson reminded me of Gary Anderson and I probably owe him a beer for that.

Maybe a few highlights, but really he's never done anything special. Re-OP, he won't get more targets-I mean you can't plan on him getting any more.

Simpson and Caldwell have been with the Bengals a few years and I've always thought Caldwell was just as good or better. This year Simpson finally did some more, but 700 yards receiving is a very common NFL stat. It is not an accomplishment at all.

They have spud webb playing WR too and people here loved that guy for a week or two.

I'm undecided on Dalton, but so far he is super impressive when compared to other rooks.

Green looks awesome. Gresham has all the talent in the world.

The Bengals are so exciting for dynasty FF that we get carried away I think. At some point, we have to just appreciate these great talents and stop looking for more production as if this is the greatest show on turf or somesuch. I'm not sure where we draw the line. Clearly, people here like Simpson, but if so it seems Muggsy Bogues and Caldwell is really pushing it then.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Jerome Simpson is a Free Agent next season and it's very doubtful the Bengals would franchise him. He put up:

50 CATCHES / 725 YARDS / 4TD

With more targets you'd have to think he'd be able to put up at least WR2 numbers. With the emergence of AJ Green, everyone kind of forgot about the kid and can be had very-cheap for his value.

He has a failry high number of targets (105) last season - I don't think it's a given that he'll see that many more wherever he ends up.

haven't smoked failry high. it smoke good?

 

[HAM]

I think we should dig up the thread about the marijuana bust, and everyone in that thread who said "He's toast. Drop him now." should be banned from FBG for life. I'm just talkin here.

Hmm..

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I think we should dig up the thread about the marijuana bust, and everyone in that thread who said "He's toast. Drop him now." should be banned from FBG for life. I'm just talkin here.

Hmm..

LOL. he is so dropped

 

[identikit]

(Rotoworld) Free agent Jerome Simpson is unlikely to face jail time following his Thursday indictment for trafficking marijuana in excess of eight ounces. Analysis: According to Bengals.com, the fact that Simpson has been cooperative and is a first-time offender most likely means he'll escape with probation. If found guilty, however, he will be facing a four-game suspension for violating the NFL's policy on substance abuse. It's going to crush his appeal on the open market.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Thought this was interesting...

(Rotoworld) Jerome Simpson is expected to start opposite Percy Harvin once he returns from his three-game suspension if "all goes to plan." Analysis: Simpson is considerably more talented than Michael Jenkins at this point in their careers, while the Vikings didn't draft a receiver before the fourth round. Simpson is maddeningly inconsistent, but coming off a 50/725/4 campaign, he'll be worth a flier as a WR4/5 even though he'll be playing catch-up after his ban.

(sourced as ESPN Twin Cities)

 

[Eminence]

It begins,

Vikings GM Rick Spielman is the latest to sing the praises of WR Jerome Simpson, who has been "outstanding" since OTAs began.

"You can see that he's at a different speed," said Spielman. Added QB Christian Ponder, "Jerome was running a dig, which is 20-yard in-route and the cushion was unbelievable because everyone's afraid he's going to run right by them he's so fast. That just adds a whole other dimension to our offense." May 31 - 2:20 PM

Vikings OC Bill Musgrave believes suspended WR Jerome Simpson can be "just what the doctor ordered for the Viking offense."

"He’s an explosive guy who can really adjust and adapt to the football," Musgrave said. "We need somebody with juice like that. ... We need to be able to count on somebody from our split end position winning consistently versus man coverage." The Vikings believe Simpson can create downfield separation and emerge as a deep threat who "makes defenses pay" when they crash eight into the box. May 29 - 10:20 PM

Value play.

 

[MTskibum]

I got him in the 25th round of a startup dynasty draft a month ago.

Huge reward for potentially no risk.