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This place is a fairly decent barometer. The thread has gone from 100's of posts and hour, to a few a day.Uhhhhh...no it hasn't.I'm sure it has been.....but it's past by the rest of the country.Yeah, locally, every station has a reporter on site and it's been the lead story every night since last week.It was one of the lead stories yesterday on abc's good morning america and again on their nightly news.
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It's going to be a lot...lot of money. Penn State is screwed.
Pretty much the definition of "lack of institutional control".'Furious%20Styles said:
Only because there were no new revelations leading up to the trial. Now that the trial has begun, the story is back in the news (and back on the FFA barometer).'the%20moops said:This place is a fairly decent barometer. The thread has gone from 100's of posts and hour, to a few a day.
Of course it died down from the media ####storm in the beginning and it got kind of talked out while we were waiting for the trial to start. But it is again a nightly national news story and it has been on the local news starting with jury selection.How much more attention are people expecting?'the moops said:This place is a fairly decent barometer. The thread has gone from 100's of posts and hour, to a few a day.'Chaka said:Uhhhhh...no it hasn't.I'm sure it has been.....but it's past by the rest of the country.Yeah, locally, every station has a reporter on site and it's been the lead story every night since last week.
I don't think there is a rational human being alive who thinks he is innocent....he admits to a lot of details that are completely over the line and very far away from innocent behaviors. Will he be 'NOT GUILTY' of the crimes he is accused of committing? Hey, after watching OJ and Casey Anthony walk free, I'm not ruling anything out, but I don't think his lawyer has the chops to pull it off.Guy was a serial boy rapist with a vast support network keeping him well stocked and out of trouble. He will die in a pretty nasty prison and with any luck, he'll get the Dahmer treatment inside.
Bolded is a different question, of course. You can sit on that jury, think he's guilty, but still conclude that the prosecution failed to make a convincing case.
Just call it Cedar Point, most tourists do already.My question to you all: Should Sandusky, Ohio consider changing its name?
Isn't it sad that Chris Farley once saved the town of Sandusky, Ohio?My question to you all: Should Sandusky, Ohio consider changing its name?
Exactly.Just call it Cedar Point, most tourists do already.My question to you all: Should Sandusky, Ohio consider changing its name?
I hope they all serve time. Maybe Corbett too.
Almost positive. Although remember, there were girls at the Second Mile. I feel bad for the counselors there that were trying to help, and surely did help, troubled young girls and boys only to find out the founder of the organization was a predator. Forget the pain that Arrington is feeling about not noticing, think about the pain of the people who worked there to help all those kids.
Agree, something doesn't smell right with his involvement.
That's even worse if it turns out Curley knew what he was doing.
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Agreed. Been following her on Twitter for quite a while.
That's usually the way it works. They either molest boys or they molest girls, but they rarely molest both.
Forgive the questions, but my mind doesn't work like a pedophile (thank God)...So he's ONLY gay for little boys? Or he would be gay for an attractive 24-year-old man as well?
Pedophile <> GayForgive the questions, but my mind doesn't work like a pedophile (thank God)...So he's ONLY gay for little boys? Or he would be gay for an attractive 24-year-old man as well?
But he doesn't diddle girls.Pedophile <> GayForgive the questions, but my mind doesn't work like a pedophile (thank God)...So he's ONLY gay for little boys? Or he would be gay for an attractive 24-year-old man as well?
And people don't think there's evil in the world? If this story is true, it's an example of pure evil.
Which "people" take that viewpoint?
He also (probably) isn't attracted to adult men. I can't explain the mind of a pedophile, but it's very rare for guys like Sandusky to be "gay" for adult men. It's almost like they have a third type of sexuality -- not heterosexual, not homosexual, but pedosexual.But he doesn't diddle girls.Pedophile <> GayForgive the questions, but my mind doesn't work like a pedophile (thank God)...So he's ONLY gay for little boys? Or he would be gay for an attractive 24-year-old man as well?
A lot of people. Mostly irreligious types (though I am an atheist, and believe in the existence of evil.)
That's f'd up man.He also (probably) isn't attracted to adult men. I can't explain the mind of a pedophile, but it's very rare for guys like Sandusky to be "gay" for adult men. It's almost like they have a third type of sexuality -- not heterosexual, not homosexual, but pedosexual.But he doesn't diddle girls.Pedophile <> GayForgive the questions, but my mind doesn't work like a pedophile (thank God)...So he's ONLY gay for little boys? Or he would be gay for an attractive 24-year-old man as well?
Is there some kind of evidence that would cause you to make this assumption? Because if you're simply relying on common sense, I can assure you that the spouses of these monsters rarely know what they're up to.
If I remember correctly there were some things in the media that stated the boys said she knew what was going on.
OK. I didn't read that, but if that's the case then she may very well be culpable. I just don't think we should make the assumption that the wife "has got to know." Far too often they don't.
Could you be confusing this case with the Bernie Fine case? Because Fine's dingbat wife definitely knew.
Based on what? Far too often? So how many cases like Sandusky have there been where the wife didn't know?
And what evidence do you have regarding your statement/assumption? I believe that anyone with an ounce of common sense does know, especially if it happens in the house. At the very least they are suspicious and for whatever reason choose to not investigate or turn a blind eye. Hundreds of sleepovers. Alone in the basement. You don't think she ever walked in on anything or heard strange noises? Maybe questioned why Jerry wasn't having many conjugal visits with her? All the signs were there and at the very least, the very least, she refused to see it. Sorry - she has some guilt in this too.
I don't have evidence. My assumption is based on hearing psychologists speak about this issue on television, and how much the spouse (usually a wife) does not know- she SHOULD know, but she lies to herself about it. That's bad enough, but it's not culpability in a crime, IMO, unless you're consciously involved. So again, I say that this is an unfair charge to make unless there's proof. Regarding the bolded, that is certainly possible and perhaps it makes her morally guilty to an extent- but not legally guilty of anything.
Isn't there testimony (during the grand jury) that she was in the house when a few of these kids were screaming, while being raped in the basement, of the Sandusky basement?I have no doubt that she knew what he was doing, he founded that charity in the mid-70's to prey on young kids who were from damaged homes so that nobody would believe them if they came forward, I have no idea why she would go silent knowing what was going on, but it's fairly obvious that Paterno for every day that passed since 1997 or 1998 (when he announced that Sandusky would not be the next Penn St coach)chose not to report anything (even if we agree to go back to the locker room incident). Same goes for the AD's above Paterno (not really since we know who ran that campus and state).
I would guess that the bigger motivation for preying on kids who have no father figure around was to avoid getting punched in the face, and to target kids with no guidance or support system, rather than looking at it as an effective way to dodge future accusations.
Victim #9 says he once cried for help when he knew Sandusky's wife was upstairsAlso, Victim #4 testified that Sandusky's wife almost walked in on Sandusky at the Alamo Bowl, but did not do anything besides saying "What are you doing in there?"
I am beginning to remember your vile defense of Paterno/Sandusky in this thread, Tim.
That's interesting because I don't.
Come on Tim, use your head here. Do you really think it's possible for a serial pedophile to abuse multiple victims over a period of decades, often in the basement of his home, and the woman that he lives with has no idea what's going on? Sorry, I don't buy it.
It is simply absurd. If somehow she convinced HERSELF she didn't know, its a willful ignorance of not WANTING to know. Christ, your husband taking multiple strange boys on trips? If you're innocent than you're an idiot.
Unfortunately being an idiot isn't against the law, if it was we'd have tens of millions more people in our jails. I think it is reasonable to assume she had some idea what was going on, but it's far from a slam dunk. Would they possibly be able to bring her in on child endangerment?
