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Jets five keys to victory (1 Viewer)

Moonlight_Graham said:
Maroney=Speed said:
Raider Nation said:
Chase Stuart said:
Raider Nation said:
It's a very weird situation. Jets fans want to throw down with anyone who doesn't sound the trumpets and shout from the rooftops how OUTSTANDING this 9-7 team is. A 9-7 team which was unquestionably "gifted" a playoff berth. A 9-7 team which would be one of the five worst teams to play in a Super Bowl, should they beat the Colts. A 9-7 team which would easily be the worst team to win a Super Bowl, should they somehow accomplish that feat.

Instead of just enjoying the ride and having a "We'll see!" mentality, they somehow need validation every step of the way. Honestly, I kind of understand the inferiority complex. First, they played their home games in GIANTS STADIUM. When they haven't had downright awful seasons, they've had years which end with unthinkably difficult losses. Losses so tough to swallow, some of their fanbase believes the franchise is jinxed.

I have nothing against this team. They are spunky and play hard. But let's stop acting like they are the '85 Bears.
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If the Jets won the Super Bowl, they'd be nearly as bad as the '83 Raiders.
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The key to trolling is being subtle. Try again.
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I don't think this was fair, Chase Stuart started a Good Topic and had alot to add. What did you add, oh yeah almost forgot. ' Colts key to victory:

1. Don't oversleep.'

Yep, that was a Great break down. :goodposting:

Jets-23 Colts-17.
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What did you add? At least I know I didn't add much. At least I'm not supid enough to complain what others are not adding when I haven't added anything.
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Please post what 'You think the score will be, and which team will win'. Adding to the Topic would give you more credit around these boards.
 
Rovers said:
This is the sort of insightful objective football stuff I come here for. Posts like this, and "Raider Nation" really do sidetrack what was an otherwise good thread. Too bad. Trash talking should have a seperate forum.
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Yes, I can see how you might think the "Jets are better than the Colts at everything!" thread would be good stuff. Sorry to interrupt.
 
Polar Dude said:
Bottom line is that we are supposed to respect the Jets because in the last four weeks, the Colts and Bengals laid down so that the Jets could sneak into the playoffs, then they beat an incredibly overrated Bengals team that hadn't beaten anyone of any value all year other than the Steelers and Ravens, and they were fortunate enough to get paired up against the Chargers when they did their annual self-implosion.

Okay.
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Not trying to pick on you, really, but I would say the Bengals winning at Green Bay, who went 11-5 (and 6-2 at home) was awfully impressive. The Bengals were not the same team down the stretch, but early on, they were tremendous. Oddly, once they all but clinched the division with that road win at Pittsburgh, they were not the same (going 3-5 the rest of the way, all three wins being unimpressive home wins over Cleveland, Detroit and KC).
 
This is how I see it. The Jets have to do two things in order to win. First, they need to throw the ball successfully on first or second down. Believe it or not, they need the pass to setup the run. Second, they need to be able to hide their coverages until the last possible second and hope they can make Manning uncomfortable. If they don't do these two things the Jets don't have prayer winning this game.

 
JohnnyU said:
This is how I see it. The Jets have to do two things in order to win. First, they need to throw the ball successfully on first or second down. Believe it or not, they need the pass to setup the run. Second, they need to be able to hide their coverages until the last possible second and hope they can make Manning uncomfortable. If they don't do these two things the Jets don't have prayer winning this game.
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:hifive: I think they could make peyton uncomfortable for a quarter or two, but not the whole game. Should be interesting.I don't think Sanchez will be able to do enough to win this game. I have a feeling he is going to throw multiple picks and one gets returned for 6.Colts 24 Jets 6Just my prediction, so no need to yell at me Jets fans.
 
Ghost Rider said:
Polar Dude said:
Bottom line is that we are supposed to respect the Jets because in the last four weeks, the Colts and Bengals laid down so that the Jets could sneak into the playoffs, then they beat an incredibly overrated Bengals team that hadn't beaten anyone of any value all year other than the Steelers and Ravens, and they were fortunate enough to get paired up against the Chargers when they did their annual self-implosion.

Okay.
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Not trying to pick on you, really, but I would say the Bengals winning at Green Bay, who went 11-5 (and 6-2 at home) was awfully impressive. The Bengals were not the same team down the stretch, but early on, they were tremendous. Oddly, once they all but clinched the division with that road win at Pittsburgh, they were not the same (going 3-5 the rest of the way, all three wins being unimpressive home wins over Cleveland, Detroit and KC).
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Okay, so does the fact that they beat three quality teams over the course of the year instead of two really make that big of a difference? The Bengals were still nowhere as good as their record or divisional standing indicated.
 
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
How is it ignorant, exactly? If your Jets get rolled, his comments will be spot on, no? Then, who's ignorant?
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It's ignorant to keep up the charade that the Jets don't belong...These same people have been doing it for weeks, and have been proven wrong each time...yet they continue to troll these threads.The Colts only average about 5 points a game more than the Jets, yet these haters are posting like the Colts score 40 a game and the Jets only score 3. Yes the Colts have the best record in football, but by no means did they dominate these games. And by no means have they faced a defense even as remotely good as the Jets. As I said, the Colts could certainly win, but that would not justify these anti-Jets posts (with no content other than insults) cluttering these threads.
 
Polar Dude said:
Rovers said:
This is the sort of insightful objective football stuff I come here for. Posts like this, and "Raider Nation" really do sidetrack what was an otherwise good thread. Too bad. Trash talking should have a seperate forum.
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Yes, I can see how you might think the "Jets are better than the Colts at everything!" thread would be good stuff. Sorry to interrupt.
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No, it's a "keys to the game" thread, with differing opinions. I differ with the topic starter not only on what I think the keys to the game are, but on the outcome as awell. I picked the Colts. What do you think the keys to the game are.... or are you Just here to tell people the Jets suck? (Rhetorical question, as you have already answered that question)
 
Rovers said:
Polar Dude said:
I can see how you might think the "Jets are better than the Colts at everything!" thread would be good stuff. Sorry to interrupt.
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No, it's a "keys to the game" thread
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:IBTL:
Jets pass defense > Colts pass defense

Jets rush defense > Colts rush defense

Jets rush offense > Colts rush offense

Colts pass offense > Jets pass offense

Alternatively, looking at matchups:

Jets pass defense vs. Colts pass offense = push/slight edge Jets

Jets rush defense vs. Colts rush offense = huge edge Jets

Colts pass defense vs. Jets offense = big edge Colts

Colts rush defense vs. Jets rush offense = big edge Jets
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Polar Dude said:
Rovers said:
Polar Dude said:
I can see how you might think the "Jets are better than the Colts at everything!" thread would be good stuff. Sorry to interrupt.
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No, it's a "keys to the game" thread
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:IBTL:
Jets pass defense > Colts pass defense

Jets rush defense > Colts rush defense

Jets rush offense > Colts rush offense

Colts pass offense > Jets pass offense

Alternatively, looking at matchups:

Jets pass defense vs. Colts pass offense = push/slight edge Jets

Jets rush defense vs. Colts rush offense = huge edge Jets

Colts pass defense vs. Jets offense = big edge Colts

Colts rush defense vs. Jets rush offense = big edge Jets
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So, you want me to defend the OP's opinion, even though I don't agree with some of it? You are a tool. Go find some Colts message board. We like to talk football here. You obviously have only one purpose. Trash talking. Oh, and welcome to the ignore list.
 
You need a running game and a good defense to win ...

The colts have a average defense and absolutely zero running game ..

Revis will cover wayne ( Wayne 3 catches 23 yards )

They will most probably double Clark ..

And will tell the Colts to beat them with Addai , Collie and Garcon.

If the Jets avoid turnovers they will win it 17 - 13 ..

 
Rovers said:
So, you want me to defend the OP's opinion, even though I don't agree with some of it? You are a tool. Go find some Colts message board. We like to talk football here. You obviously have only one purpose. Trash talking. Oh, and welcome to the ignore list.
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:IBTL: :lmao: :lmao:A tad bit sensitive, are we?My original post was about how we are overrating the Jets based on the results of the last four weeks. It's pretty easy to prove me wrong. Just show me where Chase or any other Jets fan was posting these types of comparisons prior to that time.
 
Rovers said:
What do you think the keys to the game are.... or are you Just here to tell people the Jets suck? (Rhetorical question, as you have already answered that question)
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The Jets are really good at intercepting the ball. Sanchez is really good at throwing them. I think the key for the Jets is to get more than Sanchez throws. How about that?
 
Traders2001 said:
You need a running game and a good defense to win ...The colts have a average defense and absolutely zero running game ..Revis will cover wayne ( Wayne 3 catches 23 yards ) They will most probably double Clark ..And will tell the Colts to beat them with Addai , Collie and Garcon.If the Jets avoid turnovers they will win it 17 - 13 ..
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You underestimate the ability of Peyton Manning and the Colts defense. Manning hasn't had any problems with a Rex Ryan defense lately, and I'm telling you that if the Jets don't pass it on 1st or 2nd down they have no chance in winning this game. They WILL need to setup the run with the pass. If they run it on 1st down and /or 2nd down all the time they will be in 3rd and long all day long, and that's when Freeney, Mathis, and the quick Colt linebackers will take over the game.Colts 24 - Jets 6
 
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pretty sure the Jets run ends today but I felt the same way last week. I actually think Wayne can beat Revis too. He had him beat last time and Manning's throws were terrible.

 
rufan said:
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
How is it ignorant, exactly? If your Jets get rolled, his comments will be spot on, no? Then, who's ignorant?
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It's ignorant to keep up the charade that the Jets don't belong...These same people have been doing it for weeks, and have been proven wrong each time...yet they continue to troll these threads.The Colts only average about 5 points a game more than the Jets, yet these haters are posting like the Colts score 40 a game and the Jets only score 3. Yes the Colts have the best record in football, but by no means did they dominate these games. And by no means have they faced a defense even as remotely good as the Jets. As I said, the Colts could certainly win, but that would not justify these anti-Jets posts (with no content other than insults) cluttering these threads.
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:lmao: First of all, I bet the Jets last week, so I haven't been "doing it for weeks". I actually kind of like the team and their effort, but they'll come back down to earth today. They are not on this level, yet.So saying they don't belong with these other 3 is not a "charade". Why are the Jets getting 8 points? Is Vegas a charade too? Yeah, they must also be full of it.The rest of your post is homer stuff, talking yourself into thinking your beloved team is better than they really are. :hophead:
 
this year's Jets are just like last year's Ravens. miracle run with a Rex Ryan defense, rookie QB, rookie RB, etc. but it comes to an end on Championship Sunday.

 
JohnnyU said:
You underestimate the ability of Peyton Manning and the Colts defense.
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Here's what I don't understand. The Colts avg 26.0 pts per game.The Jets avg 21.8 pts per game.The highest rushing output by any Colt this year has been Addai with 79 yds. They've had 8 games where their leading rusher has had less than 50 yds.I don't underestimate Manning. But I know this isn't exactly what I'd call a high powered offense. They have a lot of 18-14, 20-17, 17-15, 14-12 scores on their schedule....and they're facing the #1 D and #1 Pass D in the league.
 
Deepster said:
JohnnyU said:
You underestimate the ability of Peyton Manning and the Colts defense.
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Here's what I don't understand. The Colts avg 26.0 pts per game.The Jets avg 21.8 pts per game.The highest rushing output by any Colt this year has been Addai with 79 yds. They've had 8 games where their leading rusher has had less than 50 yds.I don't underestimate Manning. But I know this isn't exactly what I'd call a high powered offense. They have a lot of 18-14, 20-17, 17-15, 14-12 scores on their schedule....and they're facing the #1 D and #1 Pass D in the league.
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:hophead:
 
Chase Stuart said:
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:
Perfect storm for the Jets.San Diego was overrated to begin with; it was all about the win streak. Weak division. When they lost Williams early, they lost any chance at the Super Bowl. Their run D didn't get exposed thanks to that offense. But the Jets were the perfect team/matchup to do so, on both sides. Even down to Sanchez being able to play back home, helped. Mathis and Freeney this week, Mark. :popcorn: To top it off, the Chargers combust like they always do. Great job but, no, didn't convince me that they are up there with these other 3 teams.And Cincy? Please, not impressed with where they were; not even with your, "AFC North Champ" crown you placed. Look, I'm impressed with the Jets -- great run and all, bright future, etc. But the buck stops here. Going into Indy to take on Manning is a whole nother story.
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SLBD next week before Jets-Saints:
The Colts were the perfect matchup for the Jets. They only had one quality WR, perfect for a team with one awesome corner. The Jets run D didn't get exposed thanks to that offense. The Colts always choke in the playoffs, and the Jets were the perfect team/matchup to do so, on both sides. Sanchez being able to play in a dome helped, and the crowd was out of the game early when the Jets took the lead. Manning stunk it up in the playoffs, big surprise. And you could see how the Colts were totally one dimensional -- the run D looked like a college team out there. Very impressive, for sure, but the Colts were overrated all season -- they barely beat the 49ers at home, for Pete's sake.
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It's not hard to see who I have/had on any game, just go to the gambling threads. For you to imply I flip-flop is cute, I guess, but there is no validity in it. One of us is going to be right today, and the other will eat crow. If the Jets win, the last thing I would try to do is claim I was on top of it somehow. It is not me that goes digging for numbers so I can spin things my way, that's your job. I would start planning now, by the way.You are way overrating your Jets, like you always do. :blackdot:
 
The Jets have announced their inactives for today's AFC Championship showdown against the Colts: QB Kevin O'Connell, RB Chauncey Washington, LB Kenwin Cummings, G Matt Slauson, DE Ropati Pitoitua, RB Danny Woodhead and DT Howard Green while Erik Ainge is the third QB. Donald Strickland, Shaun Ellis and Kerry Rhodes all active.

Good sign that Clowney is active, IMO.

 
Aaron Rudnicki said:
this year's Jets are just like last year's Ravens. miracle run with a Rex Ryan defense, rookie QB, rookie RB, etc. but it comes to an end on Championship Sunday.
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If this year's Jets were going up against last year's Steelers defense, I'd say it would come to an end today, too.
 
rufan said:
Raider Nation said:
Could you imagine how bad I'd feel if I had ANY idea who you are? Get 'em next year.
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Guess if you try this every week, you have to be right sometime, right?
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Not that I'm sticking up for the guy, but RN knows his football, he's just not always right...just like everybody else that hangs out in the SP. At least he's not afraid to throw this stuff out there in the SP as opposed to others.
 
SaveFerrisB said:
If the Jets win by 15 or more points, I will apologize for everything negative I have ever said about Chase, donate $100 to a Haiti-related charity in Chase's name, and then leave this board forever.

All I ask in return is that Chase does not lock this thread after the Colts win today, and takes the beating like a man.
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I'd prefer you stick around, GB.
 
SaveFerrisB said:
If the Jets win by 15 or more points, I will apologize for everything negative I have ever said about Chase, donate $100 to a Haiti-related charity in Chase's name, and then leave this board forever. All I ask in return is that Chase does not lock this thread after the Colts win today, and takes the beating like a man.
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:wub: I love it.
 
Witz said:
Raider Nation said:
Polar Dude said:
SaveFerrisB said:
If the Jets win by 15 or more points,
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15 seems like a bit of a gimme considering how much better they are than the Colts.
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I'd be shocked if the Jets scored 15 points. I'll be surprised if they score more than 6 points. Seriously.
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Stop. Now you're just being silly.
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Not at all. You must have missed this:
Jets pass defense > Colts pass defense

Jets rush defense > Colts rush defense

Jets rush offense > Colts rush offense

Colts pass offense > Jets pass offense

Jets pass defense vs. Colts pass offense = push/slight edge Jets

Jets rush defense vs. Colts rush offense = huge edge Jets

Colts pass defense vs. Jets offense = big edge Colts

Colts rush defense vs. Jets rush offense = big edge Jets
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Polar Dude said:
Witz said:
Stop. Now you're just being silly.
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Not at all. You must have missed this:
Jets pass defense > Colts pass defenseJets rush defense > Colts rush defenseJets rush offense > Colts rush offenseColts pass offense > Jets pass offenseJets pass defense vs. Colts pass offense = push/slight edge JetsJets rush defense vs. Colts rush offense = huge edge JetsColts pass defense vs. Jets offense = big edge ColtsColts rush defense vs. Jets rush offense = big edge Jets
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Wasn't talking to you - was responding to the comment that the Jets would be lucky to score only 6 points.
 
Chase,

Why do you bother with this thread? If the Jets win, you're going to say that they followed your instructions (even if they didn't). And if the Jets lose, you're just going to say that they failed to adhere to your gameplan (even if they did).

 
Mr. Retukes said:
Chase,Why do you bother with this thread? If the Jets win, you're going to say that they followed your instructions (even if they didn't). And if the Jets lose, you're just going to say that they failed to adhere to your gameplan (even if they did).
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I think you answered your own question.
 
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