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Polar Dude
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In the spirit of Chase's thread, let me just say that I was right on all counts.Polar Dude said:
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Chase Stuart said:SLBD next week before Jets-Saints:Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll said:Perfect storm for the Jets.
San Diego was overrated to begin with; it was all about the win streak. Weak division. When they lost Williams early, they lost any chance at the Super Bowl. Their run D didn't get exposed thanks to that offense. But the Jets were the perfect team/matchup to do so, on both sides. Even down to Sanchez being able to play back home, helped. Mathis and Freeney this week, Mark.To top it off, the Chargers combust like they always do. Great job but, no, didn't convince me that they are up there with these other 3 teams.
And Cincy? Please, not impressed with where they were; not even with your, "AFC North Champ" crown you placed. Look, I'm impressed with the Jets -- great run and all, bright future, etc. But the buck stops here. Going into Indy to take on Manning is a whole nother story.
That is the biggest oof post i've read on these forums outside a post by LHUCKS.
Mr. Retukes
Footballguy
Excellent analysis, Polar Dude. Spot-on as usual. You are a credit to these forums, kind sir.
Kool-Aid Larry
Footballguy
well, think we've definitively seen that the jets are a .500 team that made the playoffs on a charity win in week 17.
Chase Stuart
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Tough loss to swallow. Colts fans should be proud, they're watching a very good team that's playing very well. I've got no doubt that they're going to go into Miami and play well, and will come away with another ring if they play like they did today.
Manning played an outstanding game, matched only by Garcon and Collie. The Jets have the best pass defense in the league, but Manning did a great job of finding the few weaknesses on that defense. The Jets will need to address that in the off-season. I'm not surprised by how well Manning played -- he's perhaps the best of all-time, and he's had a knack for playing well in these spots -- but I certainly wasn't expecting him to have his game of the year. The Jets, like just about every team without an all-time great QB, weren't going to beat a QB playing A+ football with receivers who make big play after big play.
I thought the Jets would win, and I was happy with how they battled. Congrats to the Colts and their fans, they deserved it.
Manning played an outstanding game, matched only by Garcon and Collie. The Jets have the best pass defense in the league, but Manning did a great job of finding the few weaknesses on that defense. The Jets will need to address that in the off-season. I'm not surprised by how well Manning played -- he's perhaps the best of all-time, and he's had a knack for playing well in these spots -- but I certainly wasn't expecting him to have his game of the year. The Jets, like just about every team without an all-time great QB, weren't going to beat a QB playing A+ football with receivers who make big play after big play.
I thought the Jets would win, and I was happy with how they battled. Congrats to the Colts and their fans, they deserved it.
Raider Nation
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Happiest guy on the planet = Mike Francesa
He's been insisting since week 16 there was no way the Jets could beat the Colts in a "real" game.
Now we get to listen to him talk #### all week.
He's been insisting since week 16 there was no way the Jets could beat the Colts in a "real" game.
Now we get to listen to him talk #### all week.
QuizGuy66
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Heh - thanks for reminding me - I usually HATE listening to that guy, but this week will be fun
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Did not think much of the Jets going in. Coming out they earned some respect from me.
Reaper
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I'd bet money a does a turnaround and gives the Jets props like most have.
MCguidance
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Jets came out, played well for a half, minus two minutes, and were knocking on the door. They ran into Manning and broke down in the second half, and got beat by a better team. If they Jets played the Colts again, they'd lose again.
I think it's safe to say the Jets belonged there - if you disagree, I respectfully do the same. Not that tough a loss to swallow, as the big picture shoed a great season. Let's just hope that the team improves next year
I think it's safe to say the Jets belonged there - if you disagree, I respectfully do the same. Not that tough a loss to swallow, as the big picture shoed a great season. Let's just hope that the team improves next year
Getinthemix
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Jets came out, played well for a half, minus two minutes, and were knocking on the door. They ran into Manning and broke down in the second half, and got beat by a better team. If they Jets played the Colts again, they'd lose again.
I think it's safe to say the Jets belonged there - if you disagree, I respectfully do the same. Not that tough a loss to swallow, as the big picture shoed a great season. Let's just hope that the team improves next year
MCguidance
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showed*Jets came out, played well for a half, minus two minutes, and were knocking on the door. They ran into Manning and broke down in the second half, and got beat by a better team. If they Jets played the Colts again, they'd lose again.
I think it's safe to say the Jets belonged there - if you disagree, I respectfully do the same. Not that tough a loss to swallow, as the big picture shoed a great season. Let's just hope that the team improves next year
That dude is a jackass. He really is terribly unpleasant even on a personal level by all accounts.
MCguidance
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Agreed - there is a way to talk to people, and he doesn't get it. Then again, he has had success, who am I to argue?
Deepster
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Tough 2nd half to watch for a Jets fan. The better team won today.
1) The Jets never committed to the run and seemed to be happy in a pass-first back and forth. Don't know if a healthy Shonn Greene helps them in the 2nd half.
2) I had a wince on my face from the time Feely attempted the 52 yd field goal and afterwards. I hated the 48 yd attempt in the 2nd quarter. It seemed like that missed 52 yder and subsequent score turned the tide.
3) Manning waited for breakdowns and mistakes and took advantage of them. I never thought Garcon/Collie would combined for even half of 274 yds receiving.
Maybe next year. *sigh*
1) The Jets never committed to the run and seemed to be happy in a pass-first back and forth. Don't know if a healthy Shonn Greene helps them in the 2nd half.
2) I had a wince on my face from the time Feely attempted the 52 yd field goal and afterwards. I hated the 48 yd attempt in the 2nd quarter. It seemed like that missed 52 yder and subsequent score turned the tide.
3) Manning waited for breakdowns and mistakes and took advantage of them. I never thought Garcon/Collie would combined for even half of 274 yds receiving.
Maybe next year. *sigh*
Polar Dude
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Oh, definitely. But it seems like most Raiders fans are like that, not just RN.
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LOL I see what you did there......
Kool-Aid Larry
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boom! roasted.
MCguidance
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Sad to see you're not.Glad to see the Jets gones...can't stand them!
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BobbyLayne
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It was a great year for the Jets, exceeding expectations. Good chance they'll be strong contenders next year.Tough 2nd half to watch for a Jets fan. The better team won today.
1) The Jets never committed to the run and seemed to be happy in a pass-first back and forth. Don't know if a healthy Shonn Greene helps them in the 2nd half.
No question losing Greene hurt; he has been the de facto RB1 for several weeks now.
2) I had a wince on my face from the time Feely attempted the 52 yd field goal and afterwards. I hated the 48 yd attempt in the 2nd quarter. It seemed like that missed 52 yder and subsequent score turned the tide.
Woulda coulda shoulda. I watched every Feely game in college, and a good chunk of his pro career when he was with the G-men and the last few years with the Jets. Still amazed he has held a job in the National Football League for a decade. The Falcons game this year was vintage. Anyway, that early 3rd Q sequence changed the whole complexion of the game.
3) Manning waited for breakdowns and mistakes and took advantage of them. I never thought Garcon/Collie would combined for even half of 274 yds receiving.
The secondary was terrible today. Nufced
Maybe next year. *sigh*
I'm not too invested emotionally in this team, but I like them slightly more than the Gints. It always hurts when your team loses; takes me weeks when a Detroit/Michigan team doesn't get it done in the postseason. But as a dispassionate observer, all Jets fans should be pretty thrilled. Rookie QB, lot of new personnel, it was a pretty great year. No big holes anywhere, and a lot of great young talent (Sanchez, Greene, Keller, most of the O-line, Reavis).
Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll
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I don't want to be uncool right now, but man do you make it hard. Even after the game has been played, and you have been proven wrong, you still can't let go. I love it.
Wrong
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It's ashame that the Colts didn't take care of business weeks ago. Of course from their standpoint it helped put inferior teams in the playoff.
I'll admit the Jets had a good defense, but it built those gaudy stats on patsies. Chase got a little too wrapped up in those stats to see what would happen when the Jets faced a very good passing attack. I bet whoever calls the plays in SD is kicking themselves for not just finishing business via the air and woorying about LT's feelings instead.
I'll admit the Jets had a good defense, but it built those gaudy stats on patsies. Chase got a little too wrapped up in those stats to see what would happen when the Jets faced a very good passing attack. I bet whoever calls the plays in SD is kicking themselves for not just finishing business via the air and woorying about LT's feelings instead.
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Surprise, surprise.
SierraKiloBravo
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Whole lotta homerism run rampant in the first post, particularly the NYJ pass D / IND pass O being slight edge to NYJ. Revis took Wayne more or less out of the game and IND got monster days from Collie and Garcon.
86 yards team rushing won't win a game in early September, let alone a game in late January. Maybe the time will come when Sanchez can win a game by himself when the running game isn't going, but yesterday wasn't that day.
86 yards team rushing won't win a game in early September, let alone a game in late January. Maybe the time will come when Sanchez can win a game by himself when the running game isn't going, but yesterday wasn't that day.
BRONG
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SLBD next week before Jets-Saints:Perfect storm for the Jets.
San Diego was overrated to begin with; it was all about the win streak. Weak division. When they lost Williams early, they lost any chance at the Super Bowl. Their run D didn't get exposed thanks to that offense. But the Jets were the perfect team/matchup to do so, on both sides. Even down to Sanchez being able to play back home, helped. Mathis and Freeney this week, Mark.
And Cincy? Please, not impressed with where they were; not even with your, "AFC North Champ" crown you placed. Look, I'm impressed with the Jets -- great run and all, bright future, etc. But the buck stops here. Going into Indy to take on Manning is a whole nother story.
Great thread, by the way.
Reaper
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Ugggg,,, Still bitter.....Win or lose, I would just have liked to see that Jets team able to play the whole game with Bart Scott and no in game injuries so, they could continue what they were doing in the 1st quarter....No excuses, I would just have liked to see it - Just like If things go sour this week Indy fans will be wishing Freeney was around more.Everyone acts as if Peyton figured everything out but, when you have Idehbo in for Scott and the #3 and #4 CB's covering Garcon and Collie, the gig is up.Not to mention the running game was done without Green on the field and TJ banged up.If you can't run and you're out of CB's you'r enot beating the Colts. Pretty simple.
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BRONG
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Where's rufan I wonder, and the others...
rabidfireweasel
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1) I missed this before. I love the Chase homer threads going back to when he used diss Manning because he didn't come out after hi junior year and go to the Jets. Then, he decided it was better to be anti-NE. Now, he is uncovering secret Jet greatness. 2) These "keep it up" comments always seem strange to me. It's almost as if the poster believes that Raider Nation's comments would impact the outcome of the game.
I'm here...jackass. I'm upset about the Jets loss, but nothing I said was off base. All I ever said was that the Jets belonged and had a shot to win this game. Unfortunately, the wheels fell off in the second half with Scott, Greene and Strickland going out. Although, not sure it would have mattered...Peyton was on fire. Colts fans should be proud of their team.
BRONG
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1. No, they did not belong -- and that shellacking proved as much. Deserved to be there? Maybe, but even that's pushing it.2. LOL at trying to justify the whoopin' by naming some injuries, or acting like Peyton did something he doesn't normally do.
3. Jets D was overrated.
4. You were wrong about most of what you were saying in this thread.
Silly homer.
Rovers
Footballguy
I knew there would be some untoward gloating in this thread, so perhaps that part of it has quieted some.
Things that went against the Jets were the loss of Strickland. Shame on the Jets given his injury history, he can't be relied upon, but Leonard had to stop blitzing when he went down. That hurt the defense a lot. Maybe if Strickland was still playing, the Jets might have been able to keep the Colts to a FG at the end of the first half. Could be wishful thinking, but it's a consideration.
Losing Greene also hurt, as Jones wore down as the season wore on. He just was not very effective, and did look like he had tired legs, as the Jets OC had said several weeks before. He also had a dinged up knee.
Having said all of that, Manning was nothing short of absolutely brilliant. If he plays like that against N.O., the Saints have no chance. Perfect pass after perfect pass, even when his recievers were covered. I knew Garcon was good, but he's better than that, much better.
The Jets need another CB, pass rusher and safety if they hope to match up with the Colts next year. Sanchez will need to continue to develop and be more of an offensive threat next year. The Colts are the better team, but I thought the Jets played prety well. I think they are ready to win the AFC East next year with a few minor tweaks. They need more than a few minor tweaks if they hope to beat Indy next year, but things are looking up.
Things that went against the Jets were the loss of Strickland. Shame on the Jets given his injury history, he can't be relied upon, but Leonard had to stop blitzing when he went down. That hurt the defense a lot. Maybe if Strickland was still playing, the Jets might have been able to keep the Colts to a FG at the end of the first half. Could be wishful thinking, but it's a consideration.
Losing Greene also hurt, as Jones wore down as the season wore on. He just was not very effective, and did look like he had tired legs, as the Jets OC had said several weeks before. He also had a dinged up knee.
Having said all of that, Manning was nothing short of absolutely brilliant. If he plays like that against N.O., the Saints have no chance. Perfect pass after perfect pass, even when his recievers were covered. I knew Garcon was good, but he's better than that, much better.
The Jets need another CB, pass rusher and safety if they hope to match up with the Colts next year. Sanchez will need to continue to develop and be more of an offensive threat next year. The Colts are the better team, but I thought the Jets played prety well. I think they are ready to win the AFC East next year with a few minor tweaks. They need more than a few minor tweaks if they hope to beat Indy next year, but things are looking up.
Reaper
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Shellacking> Really?Not till the 4th Quarter but, whatever
2. LOL at trying to justify the whoopin' by naming some injuries, or acting like Peyton did something he doesn't normally do.
3. Jets D was overrated.
4. You were wrong about most of what you were saying in this thread.Silly homer.
No other team really "Deserved" to be there any more... Every team had its spit the bit moment down the stretch, every one of em fighting for that last spot. I won't deny that the JETS LUCKED OUT!!!!!! Any team that got that spot would have pretty much lucked out that another team couldn't seal the deal.
And whatever rating you want to give the Jets Defense - If You're objective and watch enough football you know that defense was no longer The Jet defense that people ranked pretty high without those players - No, It's not an excuse, it's just a fact..... And YES, one of the problems was lack of depth, though I don't think any team has 4th and 5th string CB's to contain Manning and a 3rd RB to take over a playoff game.
And I'm not justifying anything - Most experts will again have the Jets defense ranked pretty high to start next year.....Marshall Faulk was saying most of this word for word yesterday - it is what it is.
This is all pretty silly anyway.... As Jets fan, who cares. This team greatly surpassed expectations and looks to have a decent immediate futre, the rest of this is just silly haters and a few people looking to score points against a FBG staff guy - Unreal....
Party on.
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Captain Placeholder
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I think you're "Chasing" the wrong tools in this thread.
Reaper
Footballguy
It's as if Manning went down instead of Greene/Strickland/Scott and all of these geniuses were like: "Whoa, the Jets really figured out exactly what the Colts were doing here.... No excuses, no justification.. all of a sudden the Colts just "look" different, WAY overrated as an offense IMO"I know Rovers.. Just having fun with the season over and all.....
Rovers
Footballguy
What is funny is that there are still some trolls claiming to be Colts fans rummaging around on Jets message boards. You would think they would have bigger fish to fry. Funny stuff.
Chicago Hooligan
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In their defense it's not like much is going on right now.
For instance, I am still opening these threads.
For instance, I am still opening these threads.
BRONG
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So wait, who's claiming to be Colts fans?
Polar Dude
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