rockaction
Footballguy
Natch. Already handed them over to somebody for safe keeping. Sad thing is, I think I'll actually need them this time.and codeine. don't forget the codeine.
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Jets RB - Who should start? (3 Viewers)
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Mark Football
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
So young backs can't be scrubs and all old backs are scrubs?
Someone tell Frank Gore.
rockaction
Footballguy
No sweat. I had help from the Jets site and the fine folks at Rotoworld and Wikipedia. He's a sixth rounder who is a little up there in age for a rook. He's 24 or so.
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
Every RB Powell has played with, is essentially a scrub for one reason or another.
Until now.
rockaction
Footballguy
Dear Lord. He's played behind some really good backs that are just aging.
Powell's never rushed for under 4 YPC. His career average is 4.4. Two years ago, he rushed for 5.5 per carry. Last year was 4.3. In both of those years, he got well over one hundred carries. If anything, I'd be worried he'll take work on merit from your boy. He's done it to others.
Shonn Greene, Chris Ivory, Matt Forte. There have been years where he has more attempts than those guys. I can't believe Powell ran behind Greene. What a stiff.
Survivor7700
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
I don't think Darnold has thrown the ball more than fifteen yards in the air downfield. I'm not talking outs and stuff, I'm talking like crossing the fifteen yard marker. It's bad over here, man. Just bad.
-OZ-
Footballguy
rockaction
Footballguy
Ivory had a few thousand yard seasons and beat Powell out for the job. Ivory was oft-injured and is now old, but was never a scrub in his prime.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Thought it was interesting that Dodds’ projections for Crowell + Powell is good for RB1 
rockaction
Footballguy
That's the thing. The people that work here are brilliant and give some great starting points and techniques for fantasy football. On an intermediate level, they give you a million different strategies for roster construction, etc. They also do an incredible job of aggregating data from beat reporters and the like. Their advanced stuff is too advanced for me. It's a cornucopia.Thought it was interesting that Dodds’ projections for Crowell + Powell is good for RB1
But there's one thing they can't do: They can't tell you stuff like this. I've watched every moment of this Jets postseason now and the only time The Jets tipped their hand slightly was Powell and his opening drive for a touchdown in the third game, and I'd put little stock in that because Crow played the next two series.
To the technicalities of the projection. The Jets run enough and do well enough at it to come with an RB1 in a twelve-teamer, AFAIK.
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Long Ball Larry
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rockaction
Footballguy
I put my claims in action, suffering the slings and arrows of a thousand would-be Achilles archers.
With this next selection, rockaction calls on Soulfly for some beers, pizza, and possibly sketchy massages over at Ms. Wangs...with a backdrop of crack smoke
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/767004-summerpalooza-omega/?do=findComment&comment=21261613
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
They kept him during cutdowns after sending MCGuire to IR - and while he offers an element that the other backs don’t, speed, he was really unimpressive this preseason. He showed terrible hands in the passing game and got what was blocked as a runner, and not much more. I still hold out some hope for him, but Henderson may end up being the better option after getting acclimated with the playbook and staff.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I know you’re mostly schtick, but this is not even close to true. Tomlinson was not prime LT2 but was still very solid as a Jet, Chris Ivory was an above average back during his prime and Chris Johnson had some juice left. Heck Shonn Greene had some big playoff moments at least, and had a great size/speed combo albeit with no natural instincts.
Ignoring all that what difference would it make if Powell only played with scrubs?
Bilal Powell has had a solid career and has improved tremendously over the course of his career. He’s the typical, “jack of all trades, master of none”. He’s good at every aspect of the position, but not a standout back in any aspect either.
I saw Crowell as an average to slightly above average back as well during his time in Cleveland - and this looks like another season where the Jets split backfield carries and ride the “hot hand” which has been the m.o. under Bowles. If I had to pick one or the other to take over the backfield, I’d go with Crowell but trying to undersell Powell does the community no good, as they should know he’s likely to stick around all season and see a good chunk of work in the backfield. For fantasy, they should only be flex plays or depth.
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rockaction
Footballguy
There is where Dr. Octopus makes the big bucks. I'm not going to tell you, because of the varying league formats, what they should be, but cot damn if you all don't need to know it generalized. And he's right. These guys, right now, are flexes, if they're even that.
I think I think they're better backs than he does, though.
My two cents on the deal.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Yes, I should clarify in 12 teams leagues they should only be seen as Flex options, the larger the leagues the less choices one has sometimes.
Yahoo is the worst about this, esp with WRs on the same team.Thought it was interesting that Dodds’ projections for Crowell + Powell is good for RB1
VikingFrog
Footballguy
Crowell looked pretty good on that monster run. Great speed and vision.
Looked pretty good running the ball throughout the game.
Powell and him are definitely in a nice rotation and the Detroit defense looked like poo.
Looked pretty good running the ball throughout the game.
Powell and him are definitely in a nice rotation and the Detroit defense looked like poo.
Elevencents
Footballguy
Have them both and that certainly didn’t clear anything up. Both played well so can only see a RBBC going forward.
doeseatplace
Footballguy
True. The burst Crowell showed tonight on the long TD similar to what you saw in Cleveland...multiple high ypc games where negative game scripts limited his carries. But lots of low floor games. When Jets hit those negative game scripts--and they will--Powell benefits in PPR
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, all last night showed is that in a non-RBBC committee, the Jets have an RB1. Twenty-eight points combined, standard. Not bad.
Crowell had 22 or so
Powell had 6.5 or so
Even split on touches for the most part, and nothing needed to be solved about who was the bell cow because of the way the game broke.
Crowell had 22 or so
Powell had 6.5 or so
Even split on touches for the most part, and nothing needed to be solved about who was the bell cow because of the way the game broke.
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rockaction
Footballguy
Bump on this
Crowell went 16-34 against the Browns, two touchdowns and a butt wipe of a celebration that was a bit disgusting.
Powell went 14-73 and outran Crowell.
They both played against stacked boxes because the Jets won't throw the ball more than ten yards downfield unless Terrelle Pryor beats the guy by ten yards.
Robbie Anderson means nothing to this offense right now. It's stacked boxes galore.
Crowell went 16-34 against the Browns, two touchdowns and a butt wipe of a celebration that was a bit disgusting.
Powell went 14-73 and outran Crowell.
They both played against stacked boxes because the Jets won't throw the ball more than ten yards downfield unless Terrelle Pryor beats the guy by ten yards.
Robbie Anderson means nothing to this offense right now. It's stacked boxes galore.
