Jets won't trade Jonathan Vilma to Pats (1 Viewer)

[Big Daddy Kane]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.

JETS WON'T TRADE VILMA TO PATS?

New York Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been given permission to shop himself in a trade.

With asterisk.

According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams, and that the Jets have made it clear that he isn't permitted to shop himself to the New England Patriots.

A "high-ranking Jets official" told the Globe that no team is off limits. Still, we can't imagine the Jets and the Pats trading anything at this point other than insults.

None of it really matters, because Vilma has proven not to be a good fit for the 3-4 defense. He needs to play for a team that runs a 4-3, and the Pats don't.

 

[Keys Myaths]

Why the need for this topic about a baseless rumor?

 

[TLEF316]

this is silly. I figured this would just be understood.

 

[FUBAR]

this is silly. I figured this would just be understood.

seriously. How many trades do the Broncos and Chiefs or Raiders make?Chicago and Green Bay?Indianapolis and Tennessee?Philly, Washington, Dallas, and NYG?Players often switch teams among the same division, but rarely will we see the rivals make a trade.

 

[JAA]

Team doesnt want to trade a player to divisional foe? Say it aint so!

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.JETS WON'T TRADE VILMA TO PATS?New York Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been given permission to shop himself in a trade.With asterisk.According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams, and that the Jets have made it clear that he isn't permitted to shop himself to the New England Patriots.A "high-ranking Jets official" told the Globe that no team is off limits. Still, we can't imagine the Jets and the Pats trading anything at this point other than insults.None of it really matters, because Vilma has proven not to be a good fit for the 3-4 defense. He needs to play for a team that runs a 4-3, and the Pats don't.

So your saying the Jets organization "lost respect" for the Patriots and this is the reason for not allowing Vilma to go to the Pats?That's your position?Riiiiight.

 

[BoltBacker]

According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams,

I wonder who the other team is?

 

[Jene Bramel]

According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams,

I wonder who the other team is?

The Jets.

 

[Joe Bryant]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.JETS WON'T TRADE VILMA TO PATS?New York Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been given permission to shop himself in a trade.With asterisk.According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams, and that the Jets have made it clear that he isn't permitted to shop himself to the New England Patriots.A "high-ranking Jets official" told the Globe that no team is off limits. Still, we can't imagine the Jets and the Pats trading anything at this point other than insults.None of it really matters, because Vilma has proven not to be a good fit for the 3-4 defense. He needs to play for a team that runs a 4-3, and the Pats don't.

Don't turn this into another NE hate thread. Lots of teams don't like to trade with rivals. This is nothing new.J

 

[BoltBacker]

According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams,

I wonder who the other team is?

The Jets.

uhhhh, yeah that makes sense.

 

[Jene Bramel]

According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams,

I wonder who the other team is?

The Jets.

uhhhh, yeah that makes sense.

Just in case.

 

[Chachi]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.

These are the type of threads that have made the pool a dark yellow color and make the Shark Pool unbearable. Big Daddy Kane, thanks for your contribution on making the Shark Pool a worse place. FFA rocks.

xoxoxo

Not a Patriots fan or hater, just a guy.

 

[Boston]

It's too bad because these teams have made so many deals in the past...

 

[Darth Cheney]

To me, this kind of comes across as the Jets being a bit toolish.

 

[Workhorse]

To me, this kind of comes across as the Jets being a bit toolish.

And sort of pointless. Vilma's been a huge bust in the 3-4. Why would the Patriots want him?

 

[Bri]

To me, this kind of comes across as the Jets being a bit toolish.

Yeah I don't think this one is on the Pats.Last big Jets Pats trade I thought the Jets destroyed the Pats on by getting Curtis Martin. Technically not a trade but offerring a clever RFA deal they couldn't match, then sending a pick. Regardless of the wording, Jets did well. If they're so sure Vilma isn't a 3-4 backer, why not let him go to the Pats then? Another zinger thenOccasionally inter-division trades happen, it's sort of a myth that they don't ever happen. They do it's just not so often.All in all, Miami and NE seem to be happy with the Welker trade. Personally I think NE made out but, also that Welker had a career year so let's see what his normal season is like.Amazing though how few trades happen within a division yet how many FA pickups do happen within a division.Looking back, BB's buddy Saban sure let BB know which Dolphins were his type players and he should take a look at.

 

[Banger]

WOW, huge surprise. In related news, Steelers won't make trades with Ravens, Giants with Dallas......

 

[Kiddnets]

The point is that the JEts don't even want him to speak to the Pats because they could bring him in and speak to him about all the Jets schemes and signals. He's the QB of their defense.

Standard procedure - lots of teams bring in cut players during the season for "interviews" and tryouts right before playing the player's former team.

I am just shocked the JEts will allow Vilma to shop himself to other AFC East teams - tells me the Jets aren't too concerned about them for some reason!

 

[QuizGuy66]

The point is that the JEts don't even want him to speak to the Pats because they could bring him in and speak to him about all the Jets schemes and signals. He's the QB of their defense. Standard procedure - lots of teams bring in cut players during the season for "interviews" and tryouts right before playing the player's former team. I am just shocked the JEts will allow Vilma to shop himself to other AFC East teams - tells me the Jets aren't too concerned about them for some reason!

The reason they aren't concerned about the Bills or Dolphins probably has to do with their 4-12 record -QG

 

[KellysHeroes]

Vilma will be a Redskin.... or a Chief

 

[Slinger]

According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams,

I wonder who the other team is?

The Jets.

 

[Smizzy]

To me, this kind of comes across as the Jets being a bit toolish.

Why is that? You don't trade within your division...let alone to your biggest division rival.I'm suprised it's not 3 teams...Dolphins,Bills,Pats.

 

[Smizzy]

The point is that the JEts don't even want him to speak to the Pats because they could bring him in and speak to him about all the Jets schemes and signals. He's the QB of their defense. Standard procedure - lots of teams bring in cut players during the season for "interviews" and tryouts right before playing the player's former team. I am just shocked the JEts will allow Vilma to shop himself to other AFC East teams - tells me the Jets aren't too concerned about them for some reason!

This isn't the type of common knowledge that needs to be explained. If they can't grasp that concept....they don't deserve to be in the Shark Pool.

 

[Cable]

Vilma will be a Redskin.... or a Chief

Eagle

 

[BigSteelThrill]

WOW, huge surprise. In related news, Steelers won't make trades with Ravens, Giants with Dallas......

We did trade with the Giants just a couple years ago:Santonio Holmes ---- Mathias KiwanukaGerris WilkinsonGuy Whimper

 

[NorrisB]

He'll look good in stripes

 

[QuizGuy66]

Dunno if we want the injury risk - we had plenty of that last year in Cincy.

-QG

 

[Darth Cheney]

To me, this kind of comes across as the Jets being a bit toolish.

Why is that? You don't trade within your division...let alone to your biggest division rival.I'm suprised it's not 3 teams...Dolphins,Bills,Pats.

For that reason. By singling out the Patriots, it appears as if Mangini has some sort of schoolgirl vendetta against the Pats.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

To me, this kind of comes across as the Jets being a bit toolish.

Why is that? You don't trade within your division...let alone to your biggest division rival.I'm suprised it's not 3 teams...Dolphins,Bills,Pats.

For that reason. By singling out the Patriots, it appears as if Mangini has some sort of schoolgirl vendetta against the Pats.

But appearances does not matter. And it doesn't look like anything besides a shrewd stance.

 

[bostonfred]

WOW, huge surprise. In related news, Steelers won't make trades with Ravens, Giants with Dallas......

We did trade with the Giants just a couple years ago:Santonio Holmes ---- Mathias KiwanukaGerris WilkinsonGuy Whimper

That must have been before the Steelers became division rivals with the Giants...

 

[mightyeskimo]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.JETS WON'T TRADE VILMA TO PATS?New York Jets linebacker Jonathan Vilma has been given permission to shop himself in a trade.With asterisk.According to the Boston Globe, Vilma's camp claims that he's limited to 30 teams, and that the Jets have made it clear that he isn't permitted to shop himself to the New England Patriots.A "high-ranking Jets official" told the Globe that no team is off limits. Still, we can't imagine the Jets and the Pats trading anything at this point other than insults.None of it really matters, because Vilma has proven not to be a good fit for the 3-4 defense. He needs to play for a team that runs a 4-3, and the Pats don't.

That's ok. He took a physical in Detroit! Really hoping to see him in Blue and Silver!

 

[flotsam&jetsam]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

 

[Jene Bramel]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

 

[jscout]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.

Who's more toolish? The tool or the tool who calls the tool a tool?

 

[flotsam&jetsam]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

No. He would probably move back to the outside, his "natural" position. I believe he played outside at Miami.

 

[Jene Bramel]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

No. He would probably move back to the outside, his "natural" position. I believe he played outside at Miami.

He did play OLB at Miami. And he'd definitely be solid on the outside. I suppose if you're getting a healthy Vilma cheaply, it's a nice addition. I was just taking issue that the Panthers needed to replace Dan Morgan. Beason didn't get much press outside of Carolina last season, but he took command of that defense and was every bit as impressive as Patrick Willis. He's as fine a replacement for Morgan as nearly any other player in the league.

 

[flotsam&jetsam]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

No. He would probably move back to the outside, his "natural" position. I believe he played outside at Miami.

He did play OLB at Miami. And he'd definitely be solid on the outside. I suppose if you're getting a healthy Vilma cheaply, it's a nice addition. I was just taking issue that the Panthers needed to replace Dan Morgan. Beason didn't get much press outside of Carolina last season, but he took command of that defense and was every bit as impressive as Patrick Willis. He's as fine a replacement for Morgan as nearly any other player in the league.

I totally agree w/ you. It would however give the Panther D the weak side missle the have missed since the departure of Mark Fields, a role Thomas Davis has not be able to master.

 

[Moniker]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

No. He would probably move back to the outside, his "natural" position. I believe he played outside at Miami.

He did play OLB at Miami. And he'd definitely be solid on the outside. I suppose if you're getting a healthy Vilma cheaply, it's a nice addition. I was just taking issue that the Panthers needed to replace Dan Morgan. Beason didn't get much press outside of Carolina last season, but he took command of that defense and was every bit as impressive as Patrick Willis. He's as fine a replacement for Morgan as nearly any other player in the league.

I totally agree w/ you. It would however give the Panther D the weak side missle the have missed since the departure of Mark Fields, a role Thomas Davis has not be able to master.

Davis plays strong and does it well.

 

[flotsam&jetsam]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

No. He would probably move back to the outside, his "natural" position. I believe he played outside at Miami.

He did play OLB at Miami. And he'd definitely be solid on the outside. I suppose if you're getting a healthy Vilma cheaply, it's a nice addition. I was just taking issue that the Panthers needed to replace Dan Morgan. Beason didn't get much press outside of Carolina last season, but he took command of that defense and was every bit as impressive as Patrick Willis. He's as fine a replacement for Morgan as nearly any other player in the league.

I totally agree w/ you. It would however give the Panther D the weak side missle the have missed since the departure of Mark Fields, a role Thomas Davis has not be able to master.

Davis plays strong and does it well.

Ok, knowing now that the point is moot on them signing Vilma, did Fields play strong or weak? And, has Davis played strong his entire tenure? Again, I know the thread is moot, just for my ignorance sake...that defense has not been the same since the departure of Del Rio and Fields.

 

[Jene Bramel]

POTENTIAL SUITORS

In addition to Vilma, the Panthers also may be interested in nose tackle Dewayne Robertson or draft picks. Vilma, however, seems the likely target because Carolina recently cut middle linebacker Dan Morgan (repeated concussions) and are looking for someone to replace him.

Jon Beason down?

No. He would probably move back to the outside, his "natural" position. I believe he played outside at Miami.

He did play OLB at Miami. And he'd definitely be solid on the outside. I suppose if you're getting a healthy Vilma cheaply, it's a nice addition. I was just taking issue that the Panthers needed to replace Dan Morgan. Beason didn't get much press outside of Carolina last season, but he took command of that defense and was every bit as impressive as Patrick Willis. He's as fine a replacement for Morgan as nearly any other player in the league.

I totally agree w/ you. It would however give the Panther D the weak side missle the have missed since the departure of Mark Fields, a role Thomas Davis has not be able to master.

Davis plays strong and does it well.

Ok, knowing now that the point is moot on them signing Vilma, did Fields play strong or weak? And, has Davis played strong his entire tenure? Again, I know the thread is moot, just for my ignorance sake...that defense has not been the same since the departure of Del Rio and Fields.

Fields was a SLB in Carolina. Davis has been on the strong side since he's been moved to LB.

 

[ImTheScientist]

Guess that's what happens when an organization conducts themselves like a genuine tool to the rest of the league....you lose trade partners and the respect of other teams.