Jim Harbaugh 2011 contract is ridiculous (1 Viewer)

[dutch]

also got to give consideration to Payton. New Orlean's team on both sides of the ball is playing at a championship level and I do think NO can beat SF in Sf should it come down to those two. Harbaugh is the front runner for coach of the year but there are others to throw in the pot.

 

[Aaron Rudnicki]

Yes, he coached a Super Bowl-winning team. Last year.

Which means their prospects for this year were through the roof. Short of the perfect season, there was almost nothing McCarthy could do to win Coach of the Year. The award typically goes to coaches who exceed all reasonable expectations, no?

you didn't ask who was going to win. you asked if anyone else will even get a 1st place vote.coaching the team with the best record in football is clearly enough to scoop a 1st place vote or two. the 49ers have beaten good teams but they also came out of the division everyone ranked as the worst in football prior to this year.

 

[Raider Nation]

Yes, he coached a Super Bowl-winning team. Last year.

Which means their prospects for this year were through the roof. Short of the perfect season, there was almost nothing McCarthy could do to win Coach of the Year. The award typically goes to coaches who exceed all reasonable expectations, no?

you didn't ask who was going to win. you asked if anyone else will even get a 1st place vote.

Understood, and I didn't disagree with you. I merely opined that he would not deserve it over Harbaugh.And my post above which you quoted was in direct response to you asking why coaching a Super Bowl team is a "negative."

I wouldn't use that word, but it's definitely an obstacle to winning this award, IMO.

 

[JAA]

Jets95

 

[FavreCo]

I'd say that investment has already paid off.

 

[Fensalk]

Harbaugh at $8 million was a steal.

 

[Bruce Leroy]

I'd say Mike McCarthy is a bigger steal at $5 million

 

[drummer]

Yes, he coached a Super Bowl-winning team. Last year.

Which means their prospects for this year were through the roof. Short of the perfect season, there was almost nothing McCarthy could do to win Coach of the Year. The award typically goes to coaches who exceed all reasonable expectations, no?

you didn't ask who was going to win. you asked if anyone else will even get a 1st place vote.

Understood, and I didn't disagree with you. I merely opined that he would not deserve it over Harbaugh.And my post above which you quoted was in direct response to you asking why coaching a Super Bowl team is a "negative."

I wouldn't use that word, but it's definitely an obstacle to winning this award, IMO.

Harbaugh deserves a lot of credit for bringing Vic Fangio along with him from Stanford.

 

[smackdaddies]

Does anybody besides Harbaugh even get one first-place vote for Coach of the Year?

And please don't say Fox. He finally gave in and played Tebow only to show everyone he would fail.

McCarthy does.

Perhaps so, but it won't be deserved. He came into the season with a Super Bowl-winning team.Harbaugh took over a team which was a laughingstock. This turnaround is nothing short of remarkable.

he coached that Super Bowl winning team. not sure how that's a negative for him.

Yes, he coached a Super Bowl-winning team. Last year.Which means their prospects for this year were through the roof. Short of the perfect season, there was almost nothing McCarthy could do to win Coach of the Year. The award typically goes to coaches who exceed all reasonable expectations, no?

you always win for the previous year. Last year McCarthy took a team that barely made the playoffs and won the superbowl. Did not win Coach of the YearThis year, his team is the best and it was the best last year - so he should win.

 

[butcher boy]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

 

[smackdaddies]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

 

[smackdaddies]

and since when did the Coach of the Year award actually go to the best coach? I look at these lists and say, not generally

 

[dhockster]

A better name for the Coach of the year award would be "Coach who's team improved the most" Award.

 

[drummer]

Add Brad Seely to the list of coaches Harbaugh brought in too.

 

[Raider Nation]

Does anybody besides Harbaugh even get one first-place vote for Coach of the Year?

And please don't say Fox. He finally gave in and played Tebow only to show everyone he would fail.

McCarthy does.

Perhaps so, but it won't be deserved. He came into the season with a Super Bowl-winning team.Harbaugh took over a team which was a laughingstock. This turnaround is nothing short of remarkable.

he coached that Super Bowl winning team. not sure how that's a negative for him.

Yes, he coached a Super Bowl-winning team. Last year.Which means their prospects for this year were through the roof. Short of the perfect season, there was almost nothing McCarthy could do to win Coach of the Year. The award typically goes to coaches who exceed all reasonable expectations, no?

you always win for the previous year. Last year McCarthy took a team that barely made the playoffs and won the superbowl. Did not win Coach of the YearThis year, his team is the best and it was the best last year - so he should win.

 

[NJDawgPound]

Add Brad Seely to the list of coaches Harbaugh brought in too.

Hell yeah. Seely made the Browns arguably the best Special Teams in the league.Since he left, now they are one of the worst.

 

[butcher boy]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

That was last year.Basically, what you're saying is that since McCarthy didn't win it last year and you think he should have, they should give the award based on last year's performance.Yeah.. umm.. no.

 

[JaxBill]

Tony Dungy should win Coach of the Year - look what happened since he left.

eytonManning4MVPTalkIsSilly:

 

[wdubb]

He's the real deal and worth every penny. He has Alex Smith not sucking for the first time since college, a defense nobody saw coming, and a handshake coaches fear!

the defense was very good last year already, at least the front 7. Justin Smith has been the best 3-4 DE in the league for a couple of years and Willis the best MLB in the league as well. Anyone who watches Niners games regularly could tell you the secondary was the weakest link in the last god knows how many years with zero players who could cover well. Carlos Rogers changed that, and certainly Aldon Smith helped by being the relentless pass rusher. Fangio was a huge upgrade from Manusky as well as the DC.I love Harbaugh, but it kinda irks me when people start giving him credit he doesnt quite deserve (or other people deserve it more). Harbaugh deserves props for bringing Fangio, but thats about it on D.

 

[Casting Couch]

How in the world can it be justified to pay Jim Harbaugh 7 or 8 million dollars are you? Are you kidding me? Putting aside that, ya know, that's more money than most people will make in their entire lives, what has Harbaugh done to deserve it? He did a good job coaching in a decent conference in college? He never even won his conference! Yet all of the sudden he's somehow worthy of one of the richest contracts in NFL history?Mike Tomlin has won a Super Bowl and has Pittsburgh as an annual contender, and he's making 4.8 million per year. Jeff Fisher, one of the most respected coaches in the league, is making just shy of 6 million per year. Tom Coughlin, after he won the freakin Super Bowl, is making just over 5 mill per year. How in the world can you justify paying Jim Harbaugh more than all of them? More than Bill Belichick, who's making 7.5 per year?It's just absurd. Harbaugh's a college guy who hasn't proven a single thing in the NFL. Why not make him PROVE his worth first, then pay him? Wouldn't a 3-year, 6 million dollar deal still put him in the top .0001% of rich people and not cripple the franchise if he's a bust? If Harbaugh's actually a good NFL coach, surely his next contract would be in the 6-7 million dollar a year range. So if he's a good coach, he'll make a ton of money. If he's a bad coach, he'll still make good money but not crazy money. Why won't Roger Goodell step in and do something about this? As an average NFL fan, I have to say it turns me off to the whole sport to see an unproven whippersnapper like Harbaugh come in and make more money than my family will make for generations. For coaching freakin' football. Make him prove it, then pay him. Isn't that how every other industry in the world works?Please, NFL and Goodell, do something.

In retrospect. he's worth every penny.

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

 

[FUBAR]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

 

[DiStefano]

How in the world can it be justified to pay Jim Harbaugh 7 or 8 million dollars are you? Are you kidding me? Putting aside that, ya know, that's more money than most people will make in their entire lives, what has Harbaugh done to deserve it? He did a good job coaching in a decent conference in college? He never even won his conference! Yet all of the sudden he's somehow worthy of one of the richest contracts in NFL history?Mike Tomlin has won a Super Bowl and has Pittsburgh as an annual contender, and he's making 4.8 million per year. Jeff Fisher, one of the most respected coaches in the league, is making just shy of 6 million per year. Tom Coughlin, after he won the freakin Super Bowl, is making just over 5 mill per year. How in the world can you justify paying Jim Harbaugh more than all of them? More than Bill Belichick, who's making 7.5 per year?It's just absurd. Harbaugh's a college guy who hasn't proven a single thing in the NFL. Why not make him PROVE his worth first, then pay him? Wouldn't a 3-year, 6 million dollar deal still put him in the top .0001% of rich people and not cripple the franchise if he's a bust? If Harbaugh's actually a good NFL coach, surely his next contract would be in the 6-7 million dollar a year range. So if he's a good coach, he'll make a ton of money. If he's a bad coach, he'll still make good money but not crazy money. Why won't Roger Goodell step in and do something about this? As an average NFL fan, I have to say it turns me off to the whole sport to see an unproven whippersnapper like Harbaugh come in and make more money than my family will make for generations. For coaching freakin' football. Make him prove it, then pay him. Isn't that how every other industry in the world works?Please, NFL and Goodell, do something.

In retrospect. he's worth every penny.

But Chase Stuart is overpaid.Whatever he gets.

 

[butcher boy]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

 

[drummer]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

GB has the best record in the League after winning a Super Bowl despite all that. That isn't irrelevant at all.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Guy is worth every penny. He's gonna win a championship with his brains that he couldn't win with his arm alone when he was in the NFL. I don't like him when I am facing him, but I would love for Harbaugh to be coaching my team.

 

[butcher boy]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

GB has the best record in the League after winning a Super Bowl despite all that. That isn't irrelevant at all.

This still makes no sense. It happened last year and is irrelevant when deciding on coach of the year THIS year. Having the best record is relevant, but not the only determining factor.If we're including coaching accomplishments that happened last year for this year's award, then let's include how Harbaugh groomed the best QB prospect in years at Stanford.

 

[drummer]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

GB has the best record in the League after winning a Super Bowl despite all that. That isn't irrelevant at all.

This still makes no sense. It happened last year and is irrelevant when deciding on coach of the year THIS year. Having the best record is relevant, but not the only determining factor.If we're including coaching accomplishments that happened last year for this year's award, then let's include how Harbaugh groomed the best QB prospect in years at Stanford.

GB got in as a Wild Card last season. They haven't skipped a beat since. If you find that irrelevant, well I dunno.Harbaugh has done a great job, but he does have the benefit of a lot of talent that was on his roster before he got to SF. Fangio and Seely really should get a lot of credit for his success there which I already noted in this thread. The story in SF is the defense. They weren't that bad in 2009 either. They just finally found a pass rush and have Carlos Rogers now. Andy Lee comes from the Erickson era, and Akers was a steal.

ETA: Mike Nolan wanted to be Baltimore West. Singletary tried to as well. Harbaugh did what they couldn't do.

 

[FUBAR]

I

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

GB has the best record in the League after winning a Super Bowl despite all that. That isn't irrelevant at all.

This still makes no sense. It happened last year and is irrelevant when deciding on coach of the year THIS year. Having the best record is relevant, but not the only determining factor.If we're including coaching accomplishments that happened last year for this year's award, then let's include how Harbaugh groomed the best QB prospect in years at Stanford.

I thought the conversation was about which coach is worth more or has done a better job. Not limited to this year.

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

NFL coaches should get 500K per win starting with win #3. If you make the playoffs you get a bonus credit for those first two wins.

I can dream, right?

 

[derek19]

/topic

 

[benson_will_lead_the_way]

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Barnett was so important that they cut him? Tauscher played such a key role that he was signed off the street after nobody wanted him. Burnett was a rookie 3rd round pick. Child please...it again was Finley/Grant and a bunch of fringe starters and backups.

 

[beef]

funny thread.

 

[Raider Nation]

You guys know Chase wasn't being serious.

Right?

 

[Short Corner]

I

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

GB has the best record in the League after winning a Super Bowl despite all that. That isn't irrelevant at all.

This still makes no sense. It happened last year and is irrelevant when deciding on coach of the year THIS year. Having the best record is relevant, but not the only determining factor.If we're including coaching accomplishments that happened last year for this year's award, then let's include how Harbaugh groomed the best QB prospect in years at Stanford.

I thought the conversation was about which coach is worth more or has done a better job. Not limited to this year.

Usually COTY is given for accomplishments achieved in the year for which the award is being given. HTH

 

[Chase Stuart]

You guys know Chase wasn't being serious.

Right?

Fortunately, Cam Newton was paid a fraction of what Kevin Kolb earned this year.

 

[FUBAR]

I

Mike McCarthy inherited a good team and has maintained it well. Harbaugh took a #### team and completely turned it's philosophy around turning it into a winner. Harbaugh wins.

thanks for playing. He took a team with 15 (or more) players on IR and won the superbowl.

This is annoying, they didn't lose a top end player.Only two players that really mattered: Finley(we all see how overrated he is) and Grant. Other than that they were fringe starters or backups.

#NAMEPOS.HT.WT.AGEEXP.COLLEGE56

Barnett, NickLB6-2236298Oregon State

Bell, JoshCB5-11177253Baylor42

Burnett, MorganS6-120921RGeorgia Tech54

Chillar, BrandonLB6-3237287UCLA88

Finley, JermichaelTE6-5247233Texas25

Grant, RyanRB6-1222284Notre Dame91

Harrell, JustinDE6-4315264Tennessee41

Havner, SpencerTE6-3250272UCLA59

Jones, BradLB6-3242242Colorado29

Martin, DerrickS5-10198255Wyoming96

Neal, MikeDE6-329423RPurdue74

Newhouse, MarshallG/T6-431922RTexas Christian51

Poppinga, BradyLB6-3250316Brigham Young27

Smith, AnthonyS6-0200275Syracuse65

Tauscher, MarkT6-33203311Wisconsin

Barnett was an important part of the defense.

Tauscher wasn't a stud but played a key role on the line.

Burnett looked to play a vital role on D.

You're greatly underestimating the challenge McCarthy faced and won.

Except this is all irrelevant when talking about this year's coach of the year award.

GB has the best record in the League after winning a Super Bowl despite all that. That isn't irrelevant at all.

This still makes no sense. It happened last year and is irrelevant when deciding on coach of the year THIS year. Having the best record is relevant, but not the only determining factor.If we're including coaching accomplishments that happened last year for this year's award, then let's include how Harbaugh groomed the best QB prospect in years at Stanford.

I thought the conversation was about which coach is worth more or has done a better job. Not limited to this year.

Usually COTY is given for accomplishments achieved in the year for which the award is being given. HTH

Cool, shorty. I will be sure to remember that for the coty thread.

 

[Tom Servo]

How in the world can it be justified to pay Jim Harbaugh 7 or 8 million dollars are you? Are you kidding me? Putting aside that, ya know, that's more money than most people will make in their entire lives, what has Harbaugh done to deserve it? He did a good job coaching in a decent conference in college? He never even won his conference! Yet all of the sudden he's somehow worthy of one of the richest contracts in NFL history?Please, NFL and Goodell, do something.

Still want him to do something?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Sounds like the Bolts are gonna pay him handsomely if he wants to join them.
I think the San Diego/LA Chargers are run horribly as so many other NFL franchises
They had Brees, Rivers and now Herbert and they have yet to reach a Super Bowl or really have a deep Playoff run, maybe a road AFCC in New England once?

I would not join them if I were Harbaugh but he must feel Herbert is a great chip to have at QB and he can build around that.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Harbaugh Herbert duo scares me as a KC fan

 

[IHEARTFF]

Also how did you dig up this 13 year old thread

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Also how did you dig up this 13 year old thread

I love these time machine threads. Someone dug up one where they talk about Dan Campbell's prospects as a TE.

 

[menobrown]

Thread title fooling everyone who is in this forum into thinking he just signed to return to the NFL and they are just now finding out.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Sounds like the Bolts are gonna pay him handsomely if he wants to join them.
I think the San Diego/LA Chargers are run horribly as so many other NFL franchises
They had Brees, Rivers and now Herbert and they have yet to reach a Super Bowl or really have a deep Playoff run, maybe a road AFCC in New England once?

I would not join them if I were Harbaugh but he must feel Herbert is a great chip to have at QB and he can build around that.

They were 14-2 in 2006 and lost their first playoff game to the Patriots. Quintessential "Marty Schottenheimer can't win in the playoffs" season. The Spanos family was infuriated and fired Schottenheimer. Norv Turner was hired and had double-digit wins for two of his first three seasons with Schottenheimer's players. They have had no "sustained" success since, and their post-Norv coaches personify mediocrity -- Mike McCoy, Anthony Lynn and Brandon Staley.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Thread title fooling everyone who is in this forum into thinking he just signed to return to the NFL and they are just now finding out.

I get hammered at times for going rogue and doing my own threads, just wanted to try and get folks talking, thought it was good to bump the old Chase Stuart thread
I'm lazy and didn't want to do a whole OP to set the stage, people know what time it is and what's happening

@Wingnut has a Harbaugh thread as well, was going to bump that one, just kinds flipped a coin

 

[TartanLion]

Chargers need a proper HC who is a big enough name and has the experience to go in there and sort the culture out top to bottom. It’s a good hire if they get him I think.

 

[Wingnut]

@Wingnut has a Harbaugh thread as well

I do?