Jim Schwartz (1 Viewer)

[Sabertooth]

Too bad most Calvin owners didn't benefit because of the clunker last week.

 

[Sinrman]

When you feature Calvin Johnson, not Jerome Felton, good things happen.

Amazing how that works, huh?Good, quality win. Double in that in my big pick 'em I'm in, I was the ONLY one to pick Detroit, so I picked one up there. Triple in thatI won a bet with my wife (a big Bucs fan). *cough*

 

[Northbound Train]

When you feature Calvin Johnson, not Jerome Felton, good things happen.

The Coaching staff took quite a while to figure this one out...also, Morris seems to always produce in his limited playing time.

 

[FGITLOTR]

I know people having been saying this for forever, but barring injuries the Lions should be very good next year. I'm hoping they can get some help on the O-line and in the secondary, via the draft and free agency

 

[FavreCo]

I know people having been saying this for forever, but barring injuries the Lions should be very good next year. I'm hoping they can get some help on the O-line and in the secondary, via the draft and free agency

As long as their coaching staff doesn't revert back to allowing hacks to touch the ball as much as Calvin Johnson. I want to see week after week before i move them up. If Felton touches the ball next week, it tells me they learned nothing this week.. THey have the talent to compete. They just have to learn how to use it.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

Big fourth quarter.

If they win next week, it will be the first time they've won four consecutive games since 1999 under Bobby Ross.

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

As I have been saying for a while, people have to be patient. This thing is headed in the right direction, but it won't happen overnight. The Lions are a healthy Stafford and a bit of help on the OL, LB and CB from being a playoff contender.

 

[NYRAGE]

Good to see the Lions win again. Lions fans deserve some success.

 

[Balco]

As I have been saying for a while, people have to be patient. This thing is headed in the right direction, but it won't happen overnight. The Lions are a healthy Stafford and a bit of help on the OL, LB and CB from being a playoff contender.

I think the focus in the offseason should be on O Line, especially in the draft. It all starts up front, and it looks like the Lions are set on the D Line. And I think their linebacking problems are just a lack of tackling, reading the O. THey need lunch pail types, not a big name free agent/draft pick. Players who can wrap up, and maintain responsibilities.The Lions are definitely getting there.

 

[mikel0254]

As I have been saying for a while, people have to be patient. This thing is headed in the right direction, but it won't happen overnight. The Lions are a healthy Stafford and a bit of help on the OL, LB and CB from being a playoff contender.

They need a little more than a "bit of help" from their CB's and LB's. But I agree, IF (and it's a big IF) Stafford can stay healthy next year and they make a few good offseason moves to help out the LB's and DB's, I think they could easily be in contention for a playoff spot at this point next year. Mayhew has proved to me he knows what he's doing, and he's made some great moves so far. I expect that to continue into this offseason.

 

[Masked Vigilante]

As I have been saying for a while, people have to be patient. This thing is headed in the right direction, but it won't happen overnight. The Lions are a healthy Stafford and a bit of help on the OL, LB and CB from being a playoff contender.

I think the focus in the offseason should be on O Line, especially in the draft. It all starts up front, and it looks like the Lions are set on the D Line. And I think their linebacking problems are just a lack of tackling, reading the O. THey need lunch pail types, not a big name free agent/draft pick. Players who can wrap up, and maintain responsibilities.The Lions are definitely getting there.

The draft is supposed to be weak at OL so I'm not sure if Det will go that direction in the first. I think they take a stud CB (there are some good ones this year). You gotta have a solid secondary when you've got Rodgers and Cutler in the division.

 

[CaptainHook]

lmao...you should be so ashamed of this thread yet you seem to not be at all. pathetically short sighted. i guess thats humanitys curse though

 

[The Real Hipster Doofus]

lmao...you should be so ashamed of this thread yet you seem to not be at all. pathetically short sighted. i guess thats humanitys curse though

Who are you referring to? The OP has not posted today and speaking for myself, I am on record in this thread as saying that if people are patient with Schwartz and the Lions they would be happy with the end results.

 

[King of the Jungle]

As I have been saying for a while, people have to be patient. This thing is headed in the right direction, but it won't happen overnight. The Lions are a healthy Stafford and a bit of help on the OL, LB and CB from being a playoff contender.

Patience is hard to come by when you have been waiting 34 years. However I agree, I like the direction they are heading. They will focus on BPA again this year and it will probably be CB and LB early.

 

[Hellfire Snail]

Lions are a competent CB away from 9-7 next year if Stafford and Best play 14 healthy games. No doubt about it. Have to love the way they're finishing this season. After coughing up the Jets game and getting bent over by Buffalo it looked like they throwing in the towel. Wins against the Packers, Bucs and Dolphins prove otherwise. Those are nice wins, wins with a slew of back-ups on the field.

Schwartz deserves a lot of credit.

 

[yorbacus]

lmao...you should be so ashamed of this thread yet you seem to not be at all. pathetically short sighted. i guess thats humanitys curse though

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Big fourth quarter.If they win next week, it will be the first time they've won four consecutive games since 1999 under Bobby Ross.

Yep and more than likely, they'll be favored to win against Minnesota coming off a very short week. The Lions have played well at home this year, I'd be surprised if they did lose at home with or without Calvin Johnson.The defense is getting after it. If Brett Farve plays he will get hit often by the Lions and if Webb starts, he'll get introduced to big No. 90 and defensive rookie of the year Suh in a hurry.I was putting on my Lions jersey before the game today and I was actually kind of excited to watch the game. What's great about these wins too are this will quiet people on the local sports talk that don't know what theyr'e talking about when they say Schwartz is on the hot seat. That talk is over, nobody in their right mind is going to say that, especially if they end the season on a 4 game win streak with 2nd and 3rd string QB's most of the yearGo Lions, they'll have a shot at winning The North next year.

 

[Bri]

plenty of crow to go around

 

[Saint]

I believe Schwartz has taken it in the right direction, especially from a personnel perspective. Yes, he has poor clock mgmt skills (maybe he was taking his lessons from Andy Reid), but I would rather have a HC with poor clock mgmt but smart personnel acquisitions.

I think the biggest concern I would have with the franchise is Stafford's inability to play a season. He was drafted in 2009, but has yet to play an entire season. 10 games rookie year and 3 games his second year. The big concern is developing the rapport with his offensive weapons. I would say he has shown flashes of brilliance, but until he plays a full season and develops into the QB the Lions want him to be, he is going to be a liability without playoff experience. If I was the Lions this year, I would consider seeing what other prospects may be available in the 4th-7th rounds in terms of QB talent as well.

I have to agree with the other posters for rounds 1-3 though... look at some O-line, and CB/S positions. Their defensive front 4 is brutal, add the secondary and get some guys in the O-line that can protect and this team is going to be decent. They just better make sure they don't lose Calvin.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Schwartz had so little to work with Im surprise that people were calling for his head.

This team is on the right track and need consistency at all positions. HC, OC, DC. I doubt Gunther or Leinahan are going anywhere.

This off season they need to focus on two areas:

1 - The Oline

2 - The back 7 of the defense.

I really think they are good at all other positions. DL, WR, QB, RB,TE.

Time to build. Mayhew and Schwartz have done a decent job and its finally translating into wins. Fix that Oline, Draft some more talent at LB and CB and who knows.

 

[Ghost Rider]

I think the biggest concern I would have with the franchise is Stafford's inability to play a season. He was drafted in 2009, but has yet to play an entire season. 10 games rookie year and 3 games his second year. The big concern is developing the rapport with his offensive weapons. I would say he has shown flashes of brilliance, but until he plays a full season and develops into the QB the Lions want him to be, he is going to be a liability without playoff experience. If I was the Lions this year, I would consider seeing what other prospects may be available in the 4th-7th rounds in terms of QB talent as well.

I agree with this. Stability at the QB position is what a team needs to make the step to being a playoff team and staying good, and Stafford just hasn't been able to stay healthy. Not saying the Lions should ditch him, but upgrading the number 2 QB position should be a priority. Not THE priority, but A priority.

 

[Maelstrom]

I think the biggest concern I would have with the franchise is Stafford's inability to play a season. He was drafted in 2009, but has yet to play an entire season. 10 games rookie year and 3 games his second year. The big concern is developing the rapport with his offensive weapons. I would say he has shown flashes of brilliance, but until he plays a full season and develops into the QB the Lions want him to be, he is going to be a liability without playoff experience. If I was the Lions this year, I would consider seeing what other prospects may be available in the 4th-7th rounds in terms of QB talent as well.

I agree with this. Stability at the QB position is what a team needs to make the step to being a playoff team and staying good, and Stafford just hasn't been able to stay healthy. Not saying the Lions should ditch him, but upgrading the number 2 QB position should be a priority. Not THE priority, but A priority.

I disagree...I think Hill/Stanton are fine as backups and the Lions really don't need to focus on upgrading here. They do need to focus on OL so Stafford doesn't get hit as much and DF backfield. I do agree that Stafford's penchant for getting injured is worrying, but I think you deal with that next year if he gets hurt again. Too many other needs.

 

[Northbound Train]

I think the biggest concern I would have with the franchise is Stafford's inability to play a season. He was drafted in 2009, but has yet to play an entire season. 10 games rookie year and 3 games his second year. The big concern is developing the rapport with his offensive weapons. I would say he has shown flashes of brilliance, but until he plays a full season and develops into the QB the Lions want him to be, he is going to be a liability without playoff experience. If I was the Lions this year, I would consider seeing what other prospects may be available in the 4th-7th rounds in terms of QB talent as well.

I agree with this. Stability at the QB position is what a team needs to make the step to being a playoff team and staying good, and Stafford just hasn't been able to stay healthy. Not saying the Lions should ditch him, but upgrading the number 2 QB position should be a priority. Not THE priority, but A priority.

I disagree...I think Hill/Stanton are fine as backups and the Lions really don't need to focus on upgrading here. They do need to focus on OL so Stafford doesn't get hit as much and DF backfield. I do agree that Stafford's penchant for getting injured is worrying, but I think you deal with that next year if he gets hurt again. Too many other needs.

Hill is more than capable as a QB2...and Stanton has been serviceable as QB3. Not an area of off-season need IMO. We have to assume that Stafford will finally get healthy and should he succumb to injury again Hill + Stanton know the offense well. Hill could be a starter on about half a dozen teams if not more.

 

[Northbound Train]

plenty of crow to go around

I'm sure this has to be directed at me and a few others here :( That's fine and all but I don't think I ever once said J.S should be canned...I did however vent frustration from a very tough first 10 games....that Jets meltdown and the ensuing blowout by the mighty Bills had me What I wanted to see out of Detroit down the stretch was:A) Win a roadie ~ got that with B2B road W's in the Sunshine StateB) Beat a real team and have a statement game ~ Pack + Bucs playoff hopes were hit bigtimeC) Beat a Division opponent ~ got the Pack and now have Minny on the ropesD) Cut down on the pre-snap penalties ~ not sure of the #s but I'm sure this has come way down in recent weeksWhen you've had very possibly the worst DECADE in the history of the NFL, and haven't won a Playoff game since the Barry days I hope you can see that the taste of success had some of us fired up weeks ago...I can't take another few years of futility These last 4 weeks have been an outstanding ride...hope they stay the course and land a big time FA

 

[Angus82]

plenty of crow to go around

I'm sure this has to be directed at me and a few others here That's fine and all but I don't think I ever once said J.S should be canned...I did however vent frustration from a very tough first 10 games....that Jets meltdown and the ensuing blowout by the mighty Bills had me What I wanted to see out of Detroit down the stretch was:A) Win a roadie ~ got that with B2B road W's in the Sunshine StateB) Beat a real team and have a statement game ~ Pack + Bucs playoff hopes were hit bigtimeC) Beat a Division opponent ~ got the Pack and now have Minny on the ropesD) Cut down on the pre-snap penalties ~ not sure of the #s but I'm sure this has come way down in recent weeksWhen you've had very possibly the worst DECADE in the history of the NFL, and haven't won a Playoff game since the Barry days I hope you can see that the taste of success had some of us fired up weeks ago...I can't take another few years of futility These last 4 weeks have been an outstanding ride...hope they stay the course and land a big time FA

Schwartz has been a great coach. IF Stafford stays healthy and Best steps up things could be nice.

 

[BobbyLayne]

So great to finish the season on the upswing for a change. This is the first four game winning streak since 1999, and the longest streak to end a season since we won seven in a row back in 1995.

Julian Peterson was a healthy scratch today. I'd say that is a pretty clear indication his $8M salary won't be back next year.

My prediction (hope) is the draft goes LB then CB/OL or OL/CB. The DBs actually sucked less this year. Spievey gets a pass in my book, he was a late switch to strong safety (from corner), so we'll have a better idea how good he really is next year - he's got the physical tools. Delmas is a good free safety, he just needs to stay healthy.

FA will be interesting this year. They finished in a way that demonstrates they are building something positive. Hopefully Mayhew can fill some of those back seven holes that route.

Personally, I hope they don't make any major commitments to offensive skill players - we basically need two each at OL/LB/DB either through the draft or signing FAs.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Longest winning streak in Detroit since halfway through 2007.

yeah time to fire that bum schwartz huh

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Really couldn't disagree more. This is the exact same BS you here out of the ignorant Umich fans who want to can rodriguez after three years. You fall for the announcers schmaltz where they wax poetic about what this loss or this one play says about _________. Grading a rebuilding team on strictly wins and losses is asinine, and ultimately will produce the kind of mediocre success and results that you see in a place like the wash redskins, the NY mets, the new york knicks etc. When you 'feel you must win now because of jokers like the OP, you cut corners. You don't tear it completely down, you put masking tape over structural problems. While that may save your job in y1-3 as you patch together a couple of wins and and end up a game or 2 within the .500 mark. But you didn't change the mindset that is still there, you didn't install the system that you believe is best because your players obviously won't perfectly fit your system in y1-3 really of any regime. Sometimes the best thing to to do is TEAR IT ALL DOWN, and then build it back up right. That is what the lions are doing, and that is what the falcons are doing. Both historically inept franchises that now have good HC and GM's. It's not as flashy, hell the Falcons are almost an afterthought despite having the best record in the NFC. Grading on the short term/ "its a win now league" is a trite concept for those who don't have the intestinal fortitude and patience it takes to build a champion. Stay the course. And grade not on w/l for now, but on how different this team is playing/acting from those under ots previous regime. I think you'll see that this is gonna pay off in the not to distant future. So in short, calms down and shut up sally!

What makes you so high and mighty that you can "rip" the OP Your name here sums you up 'Hipple, Long, Ware, & Peete' I guess you've become accustomed to mediocrisy (sp) and just being "competitive". I can tell you right now that if the Lions lost another tough one to the Pack, another road loss that we had a shot at, that this team, any impending FAs and those Lions players would be looking for a ticket out of town. You are completely wrong if you don't think this league measures accountability by wins and losses....would you really give a rats ### if Detroit was the #1 offense and #1 defense (like the Bolts were earlier) but had a losing record.....that, my friend is assinine!!!Didn't Calvin just not come out and say he was sick of losing....keep piling on heartbreaking losses in games we should've won and you keep buying season tickets while players like him look for the first ticket out of town

Chiefs 4-12 LYR ~ 9-5 in 1st place

Bucs 3-13 LYR ~ 8-6 and in wildcard race

Rams 1-15 LYR ~ 6-8 and in divisional race

Point being...join us in the 21st century where the SALARY CAP and high draft picks can see teams transform over an off-season. Detroit could easily have 6-7-8 wins this year and be in the playoff hunt (albeit maybe a long shot) if it were not for Schwartz blowing a few games with horrendous clock management/play calling, not holding players accountable for pre-snap penalties and not being continually outcoached at halftime.

You can't tell me one of those 3 clubs I listed above are heads and shoulders better than Detroit talent-wise....their Coaches just found ways to WIN

And FWIW.... Rich Rod

you need to turn off wdfn. listening to the 'average' unemployed and drinking by noon lions fan is starting to rot your brain...

Sorry if the concept of looking past wins and losses when evaluating talent, especially in the short term, is lost on you. But if you can't look at this team and see that it is improving by leaps and bounds, and that it would be downright stupid to fire scwartz or the gm, then i'm sorry.

You prolly would want to fire Tom Cable in Oakland too.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

lmao...you should be so ashamed of this thread yet you seem to not be at all. pathetically short sighted. i guess thats humanitys curse though

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Really couldn't disagree more. This is the exact same BS you here out of the ignorant Umich fans who want to can rodriguez after three years. You fall for the announcers schmaltz where they wax poetic about what this loss or this one play says about _________. Grading a rebuilding team on strictly wins and losses is asinine, and ultimately will produce the kind of mediocre success and results that you see in a place like the wash redskins, the NY mets, the new york knicks etc. When you 'feel you must win now because of jokers like the OP, you cut corners. You don't tear it completely down, you put masking tape over structural problems. While that may save your job in y1-3 as you patch together a couple of wins and and end up a game or 2 within the .500 mark. But you didn't change the mindset that is still there, you didn't install the system that you believe is best because your players obviously won't perfectly fit your system in y1-3 really of any regime. Sometimes the best thing to to do is TEAR IT ALL DOWN, and then build it back up right. That is what the lions are doing, and that is what the falcons are doing. Both historically inept franchises that now have good HC and GM's. It's not as flashy, hell the Falcons are almost an afterthought despite having the best record in the NFC. Grading on the short term/ "its a win now league" is a trite concept for those who don't have the intestinal fortitude and patience it takes to build a champion. Stay the course. And grade not on w/l for now, but on how different this team is playing/acting from those under ots previous regime. I think you'll see that this is gonna pay off in the not to distant future. So in short, calms down and shut up sally!

What makes you so high and mighty that you can "rip" the OP Your name here sums you up 'Hipple, Long, Ware, & Peete' I guess you've become accustomed to mediocrisy (sp) and just being "competitive". I can tell you right now that if the Lions lost another tough one to the Pack, another road loss that we had a shot at, that this team, any impending FAs and those Lions players would be looking for a ticket out of town. You are completely wrong if you don't think this league measures accountability by wins and losses....would you really give a rats ### if Detroit was the #1 offense and #1 defense (like the Bolts were earlier) but had a losing record.....that, my friend is assinine!!!Didn't Calvin just not come out and say he was sick of losing....keep piling on heartbreaking losses in games we should've won and you keep buying season tickets while players like him look for the first ticket out of town Chiefs 4-12 LYR ~ 9-5 in 1st placeBucs 3-13 LYR ~ 8-6 and in wildcard raceRams 1-15 LYR ~ 6-8 and in divisional race Point being...join us in the 21st century where the SALARY CAP and high draft picks can see teams transform over an off-season. Detroit could easily have 6-7-8 wins this year and be in the playoff hunt (albeit maybe a long shot) if it were not for Schwartz blowing a few games with horrendous clock management/play calling, not holding players accountable for pre-snap penalties and not being continually outcoached at halftime.You can't tell me one of those 3 clubs I listed above are heads and shoulders better than Detroit talent-wise....their Coaches just found ways to WINAnd FWIW.... Rich Rod

chump

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Well, we had some back and forth in the Parcells thread but I figured this guy and his team deserves it owns thread.

I am the first to admit that I was thrilled of the Schwartz to Detroit signing last summer....figured coming from a long tenure with what I feel one of the most underrated Coaches in the game to Detroit that we'd finally start to turn the corner and come around.

Some have said and will say that you need patience...well, my responce to that is unless you've endured 10+ years of utter h#ll then please don't talk patience to me....this is a SHOW ME NOW league....and while we've made some strides on both sides of the ball this is certainly beginning to look like those same old Lions.

Penalties are a part of the game but the constant pre-snap offsides and false starts are part of a Coach and the discipline (or lack thereof in this case) that he instills on his club. Steven Peterman is on pace forf 20+ penalties and again was called for a penalty that negated a huge gain today....there has got to be accountability held for your players...sit his ####en ### down...I don't give a rats ### who or what we have for depth....DO IT!!!!

Finishing a game is how teams turn into winners and ultimately define how good a Coach is...this guy has not finished one game where it's been tight this year and in fact has had some collosal meltdowns (see Jets)...his play calling down the stretch has everybody in MOtown scratching their heads.

He has admittingly blown the usage of some timeouts in recent games that have undoubtedly factored into our losses not to mention some very poor management of the clock late in the first halves or late in the game.

He is 0-14 on the road in his season and a half.

After coming out of the BYE with a nice W against a Jeckyl and Hyde Skins club, he/we followed that up with a monumentous deflating loss vs the Jets where he can/should be held accountable...then he follows that up with a stinker in Buffalo allowing them their first W and finally a crushing loss to the powerful Kitna lead Cowboys. :X

I am seeing nothing but regression from this team lately and unless he can light a fire and reel off some W's down the stretch I honestly feel it's time to check out the FA Head Coach market and perhaps hire a known, proven winner ala Chucky, Cowher etc, etc...

Pretty much have had it with the Lions giving clowns like Marinelli, Morninweg + now Schwartz there first HC gig...there is a reason these guys were coordinators.

I also heard the arguement that he's made great strides on the defensive side of the ball, the offense is far better yada, yada, yada...this team has oodles more talent that the last 2 bafoons had and he's still not getting it done....

I think more than anything our GM has made better strides by drafting some solid players and filling some holes...I know Jimmy has some input in that but his job is to utilize his talent and make strides...the latter of which he is not.

He is 4-22 as a HC thus far...

Seems guys like MOrris, Spags, Carroll, Haley and others have made significant strides in as little or less time with as little or less talent...

This ship is sinking quick and it may be time to start perusing for the next Head Coach in Motown...

Did I mention that in the HISTORY of the game no Lions Head Coach has EVER went on to become a HEad Coach in the NFL again....EVER

Oh and I just wiped off your seat on the bandwagon. Unfortunately since room is limited, you are very near the horse's ###.

 

[hutchins929]

Well, we had some back and forth in the Parcells thread but I figured this guy and his team deserves it owns thread.

I am the first to admit that I was thrilled of the Schwartz to Detroit signing last summer....figured coming from a long tenure with what I feel one of the most underrated Coaches in the game to Detroit that we'd finally start to turn the corner and come around.

Some have said and will say that you need patience...well, my responce to that is unless you've endured 10+ years of utter h#ll then please don't talk patience to me....this is a SHOW ME NOW league....and while we've made some strides on both sides of the ball this is certainly beginning to look like those same old Lions.

Penalties are a part of the game but the constant pre-snap offsides and false starts are part of a Coach and the discipline (or lack thereof in this case) that he instills on his club. Steven Peterman is on pace forf 20+ penalties and again was called for a penalty that negated a huge gain today....there has got to be accountability held for your players...sit his ####en ### down...I don't give a rats ### who or what we have for depth....DO IT!!!!

Finishing a game is how teams turn into winners and ultimately define how good a Coach is...this guy has not finished one game where it's been tight this year and in fact has had some collosal meltdowns (see Jets)...his play calling down the stretch has everybody in MOtown scratching their heads.

He has admittingly blown the usage of some timeouts in recent games that have undoubtedly factored into our losses not to mention some very poor management of the clock late in the first halves or late in the game.

He is 0-14 on the road in his season and a half.

After coming out of the BYE with a nice W against a Jeckyl and Hyde Skins club, he/we followed that up with a monumentous deflating loss vs the Jets where he can/should be held accountable...then he follows that up with a stinker in Buffalo allowing them their first W and finally a crushing loss to the powerful Kitna lead Cowboys. :X

I am seeing nothing but regression from this team lately and unless he can light a fire and reel off some W's down the stretch I honestly feel it's time to check out the FA Head Coach market and perhaps hire a known, proven winner ala Chucky, Cowher etc, etc...

Pretty much have had it with the Lions giving clowns like Marinelli, Morninweg + now Schwartz there first HC gig...there is a reason these guys were coordinators.

I also heard the arguement that he's made great strides on the defensive side of the ball, the offense is far better yada, yada, yada...this team has oodles more talent that the last 2 bafoons had and he's still not getting it done....

I think more than anything our GM has made better strides by drafting some solid players and filling some holes...I know Jimmy has some input in that but his job is to utilize his talent and make strides...the latter of which he is not.

He is 4-22 as a HC thus far...

Seems guys like MOrris, Spags, Carroll, Haley and others have made significant strides in as little or less time with as little or less talent...

This ship is sinking quick and it may be time to start perusing for the next Head Coach in Motown...

Did I mention that in the HISTORY of the game no Lions Head Coach has EVER went on to become a HEad Coach in the NFL again....EVER

Oh and I just wiped off your seat on the bandwagon. Unfortunately since room is limited, you are very near the horse's ###.

 

[Sabertooth]

Schwartz seems to be making all the right moves. 2nd place in the North this year.

 

[Chase Stuart]

With the sky high (for them) expectations in Detroit this year, I wonder what the leash will be like from Lions fans?

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I said the same thing when the signed Schwartz. Who? Why? Again?

Sign a coach who has done it before. You don't want projects at the GM or head coach position like you have at QB and WR. You want guys who have done it before. Guys who have WON before.

Wow In my head I thought this thread was TWO years ago... Looking again this thread was regurgitated LAST NOVEMBER Talk about a short term rebuke. Funny how NBT has been noticeably absent. If you are gonna pen something this universally wrong in nearly every regard, at least be man enough to stop by and eat your crow. MIght be time to go bump the moronic "Megatron has been Lionized thread...

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

With the sky high (for them) expectations in Detroit this year, I wonder what the leash will be like from Lions fans?

Luckily even though the throng in detroit are ready to jump of a limb at a moments notice, for good or bad the LIons have usually stuck to the plan regardless of the public Opinion. I think schwartz is fine regardless.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

I said the same thing when the signed Schwartz. Who? Why? Again?Sign a coach who has done it before. You don't want projects at the GM or head coach position like you have at QB and WR. You want guys who have done it before. Guys who have WON before.

I really enjoy bumping this thread. I still can't believe this was less than one year ago...

 

[Doctor Detroit]

good beagling effort here HLWP

 

[jon_mx]

With the sky high (for them) expectations in Detroit this year, I wonder what the leash will be like from Lions fans?

We might have to wait for them to lose a game to find out. Between the 4-0 finish last year, the 4-0 preseason, the 5-0 start to this year, it could be a while. I am thinking the lease is kind of lengthy right now. Of course this is the Lions who fired Wayne Fontes, a coach who took the Lions to the playoffs three years after one bad season.

 

[Phenix]

Schwartz earned some fan points and gave some credit to the Lions fans last night at his presser. I went to the game last night to pull for my Bears , I do not think too many teams will go into Detroit and win if the crowd for that game is anything like last night.