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No. Another thing that is bs. The advantage in this sense is the defense. Hopefully like before, the jury will basically do another cross exam like Juan did to the psych dude. This "expert" is and has been repeating himself a zillion times. I highly doubt you are changing any minds now especially after all the fumbling and admissions he has made thus far.
I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.
Oh great, make that at least 3 weeks to go then!I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.
I'm going from being entertained to disgusted fast. Let us hope all 12 jurors are logical. All it takes is 1 dingy to ruin Travis's justice being served.. 
Speaking of another three weeks and jurors, how does the juror vs employment come into play. Can an employer terminate based on someone being on jury duty for this length? I know this might be elementary, but I have no clue how that side of this works. I'm just amazed how they can take that much time of work and sit through this whole thing.'CurlyNight said:Oh great, make that at least 3 weeks to go then!'Nikki2200 said:I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.'CurlyNight said:
They can't terminate you because you are performing your civic duty. It's not your fault that a trial is going on so long. You are required to sit through it unless you become very ill or some emergency comes up, which is why I believe there are 6 extra jurors there. IMO at this point, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the jurors are wishing they could get back to their regular lives.Speaking of another three weeks and jurors, how does the juror vs employment come into play. Can an employer terminate based on someone being on jury duty for this length? I know this might be elementary, but I have no clue how that side of this works. I'm just amazed how they can take that much time of work and sit through this whole thing.'CurlyNight said:Oh great, make that at least 3 weeks to go then!'Nikki2200 said:I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.'CurlyNight said:
Minnesota statute prohibits any employer from firing or harassing an employee who is summoned for jury service. However, you must let your employer know well in advance, as soon as you receive your summons.Speaking of another three weeks and jurors, how does the juror vs employment come into play. Can an employer terminate based on someone being on jury duty for this length? I know this might be elementary, but I have no clue how that side of this works. I'm just amazed how they can take that much time of work and sit through this whole thing.'CurlyNight said:Oh great, make that at least 3 weeks to go then!'Nikki2200 said:I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.'CurlyNight said:
:X I wish they'd stop showing her singing this tune. Was the defense finally done today or were they interrupted by the :X . Anyone know if Mon will start off with jury questions?????
My employer pays in full for jury duty. Hence my ongoing efforts NOT to get off jury duty... One 6 week case of reporting at noon and getting out at 5:00 = one of best vacations ever...Speaking of another three weeks and jurors, how does the juror vs employment come into play. Can an employer terminate based on someone being on jury duty for this length? I know this might be elementary, but I have no clue how that side of this works. I'm just amazed how they can take that much time of work and sit through this whole thing.'CurlyNight said:Oh great, make that at least 3 weeks to go then!'Nikki2200 said:I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.'CurlyNight said:
Again, Why are they wasting so much time and money on this psycho. Who does she think she is O.J?
Uhhhh...because she is a murderer and in the public interest we want her behind bars or dead?
"They" being....?
Becasue she is hot looking. You put a fat hoglet in her spot and HLN is working the South African no legged dude. No one even knows this trial is going on.
Sure the media attention would be minimal but the DA would still be trying just as hard to put the murdering ##### behind bars, or in the ground. And it would be taking just as much time and costing the public just as much money to do so.
CRAP! I swear I read they were off Thursday and Friday.Oh it isn't dark today! Jury are asking their questions..
So far he seems to be doing ok answering the jury questions. Like Jodi, he seems to have an answer for everything. The thing is it is hard to understand the details of tests and really, if what he's saying is true. This field is not black and white so for him to say no way or yes so much makes me skeptical that he is an impartial witness.CRAP! I swear I read they were off Thursday and Friday.Oh it isn't dark today! Jury are asking their questions..
This. Most experts are just paid whores.
"They" are responsible for all kind of bad things. One day we shall find out exactly who "They" are and also why they are always saying things.'Rayderr said:
and They Live.
Outside the limit of our sight, feeding off us, perched on top of us, from birth to death, are our owners! Our owners! They have us. They control us! They are our masters! Wake up! They're all about you! All around you!
:6-plusminutefightscene:
Well, I think that's a bit of an overstatement. It is correct that each side seeks out their own experts. And, generally, there are some experts who tend to testify more frequently for the state and defense. That said, all these experts are subject to a particular rule that, essentially, they must be both educationally qualified and are up to date with the literature and commonly accepted issues in the field. This really makes the "options" pretty limited and for the most part very well known in the criminal defense bar. As to how they are chosen, it really is just lawyers on each side picking them. Where it may different is in the costs of each expert. If the lawyer has a private client with deep pockets, they can pick and choose each expert (which is freaking expensive - I had one quote me 500/hr today). If it is a court-appointed attorney case where the defendant has been legally determined to be indigent (which Arias may be), the defense attorney must submit a request either to the judge or to the administration office which handles indigent defense funds. In those cases, generally the court/office will require some generic reasoning as to why the expert is necessary to put on an effective defense (sometimes this isn't easy) and will usually grant minimal funds. For example, there are two prevalent DUI "experts" in Arizona that I use. One costs 5000 and one costs 1500 per case - you can guess which one the court will grant me funds for.'Angry Beavers said:
Nice post. But nothing there disabuses me of the notion that they are paid whores. The requirement that "they must be both educationally qualified and are up to date with the literature and commonly accepted issues in the field" does not preclude them from whoring their opinion.
This is true. But it also does not preclude opposing counsel from pointing out that very fact on cross. And it also goes both ways - in fact, I once had a case where I requested an Intox 8000 expert consult with me on a case and testify for me and he turned me down. When I got another expert and listed him as my witness the state got the first guy I tried to get to testify for them. That made for a fun cross.
It's not that clear cut. There are certainly a few bottom feeding experts out there in virtually every field who will pretty much say whatever you want them to say, or who you know are so aligned with one side or the other (e.g. personal injury plaintiffs; criminal defendants; real estate brokers; etc.) that they'll always testify for you. More likely, however, there are experts who simply have a particular philosophical bent within their area of expertise that lends itself to testifying typically for plaintiffs versus defense (e.g. a neuropsychologist who tends to have a lower or higher threshhold for finding "brain injury" on EEG's, PET scans and fMRI's than others in his/her field do).
Oscar's not due back in court until June so unless he does something like trying to flee while out on bail, I don't think we'll see much of him until then.'lod01 said:
I don't think she is hot.'lod01 said:
The last sentence says it all. To be honest, there are whores and I love when defense uses them. They are professional witnesses, but I can expose them and their opinion for what they are.
I was like did I really hear this correctly???? 
Really good questions though from the jury, mixed with a few sarcastic ones to make a borrrrrrrrrrrrring testimony fun! Yesterday someone :X and today someone got tossed for saying apparently to Jodi's mom that she hope Jodi dies. I don't remember seeing a trial quite like this one!
I think I have a lower regard for human nature than most people. I think people's opinions about things in general get altered when the subject matter becomes personal. It's a lot easier to be agains gay marriage, for example, when your daughter isn't gay. It shouldn't be suprising that a person's views about the matter will be modified when it becomes a part of his/her life.Having your salary dependent on having a certain view of the world is no different. Where there are borderline calls (what is the threshhold for finding brain injury on an EKG), it certainly helps tilt the scales when a person makes $100k a year (or whatever) to be certain about one way or ther other.It is short-sited not to realize that our outlook on the world is viewed through our own personal lens. This doesn't make a person a lier, it means that all our "opinions" (expert or otherwise) are inherently suspect.
Believe me, I've got a skeptical view of the world too, and especially the way that economic incentives operate on people and I'm glad that the system allows for cross-examination of experts to challenge them. I've just come across some experts who have impressed me for their intellectual honesty, and I've also learned to respect that reasonable people can differ on issues relating to these areas of expertise (which are usually far less "exact" than we like to think of them as being). As usual, humanity exists across a spectrum rather than in a convenient binary form that's easy to summarize.I should add one thing - another earmark of a good expert is that he or she still runs a regular practice or does research that are unrelated to their work as an expert. I tend to get suspicious of experts who act as experts full time, not least because I wonder how up-to-date you can be with the latest clinical or laboratory work when you're not even doing it yourself.
For some reason, I skipped over the words "just behind" the first time I read this. It was a lot funnier that way.
Is the Mona Lisa just a painting? Was Babe Ruth just a baseball player?Most experts are the very best paid whores in the history of the world. Don't demean them.'Angry Beavers said:
This. I put the people who do expert work on the side in a completely different category than just "experts." When I have an expert who's testifying about engineering and he teaches engineering and also has an engineering firm through which he does actual engineering work, it's a spectacular experience.
A good expert can be invaluable in helping you craft your case, or even in telling you behind the scenes that your case is lousy and needs to be settled before the other side realizes how lousy it is.
You can pretty much bank on a Murder 1 vote out of that person.
Yea. After hearing all the jury questions, there is not a chance in hell she walks.
I got selected for a murder trial once, they case lasted a month. Every day we didn't have to report until 10 am. Every Friday the judge let us out at 12:00 pm. The case was in June, it was awesome. Plus, I was a salaried employee and my employer let me keep the jury check which ended up being well over $700.My employer pays in full for jury duty. Hence my ongoing efforts NOT to get off jury duty... One 6 week case of reporting at noon and getting out at 5:00 = one of best vacations ever...Speaking of another three weeks and jurors, how does the juror vs employment come into play. Can an employer terminate based on someone being on jury duty for this length? I know this might be elementary, but I have no clue how that side of this works. I'm just amazed how they can take that much time of work and sit through this whole thing.Oh great, make that at least 3 weeks to go then!I can't imagine any logical human being could get past the "perhaps I should have re-administered the test" and take this guy seriously. I am really anxious to see the jury questions. I hope the defense doesn't keep going until the end of the day today. Court is off Thursday and Friday.
Isn't that what Walter White had in season two of Breaking Bad?
lol! Hope the juror(s) with those sarcastic questions wound up deliberating the case!
This trial rocks! 
