Joe Torre to be fired -- Source: N.Y. Daily News (1 Viewer)

[Michael Brown]

Do any of the jagoffs at the Daily News loose their heads over this??

Speculation, but the theory is that Steinbrenner got Madden's ear Saturday night and told him that Torre was getting axed. Madden had no choice but to run with the story after being told firsthand that Joe was gone. But during the weekend, the Yankee front office guys convinced Steinbrenner to give Torre another shot.With that, can everyone please cool it with the "blowhard Steinbrenner is overreacting again" comments once and for all? It's not 1988 anymore, and he hasn't changed managers for 12 years now.

I'm no Yankee (or Steinbrenner) fan, but shouldn't George have made a move after the loss to Detroit?I think this is the ideal time to make the move, how long is Torre going to stick around anyway? One more year? What's the point?

He's been bounced out of the first round of the playoffs the last two years by the Angels and the Tigers!!! This is NOT OK!

Torre was great 10 years ago managing with all those egos paired up with gamers from the now depleated Yankee farm system. Now that he has ALL egos and one or two gamers he's not much of a skipper. Who's to say they don't get bounced in Rd. 1 next year, too?

Do you really think the players will "rally" around Torre now? I doubt it.

Torre wasn't necessarily the problem (he's a fine manager under the right circumstances) but he's CLEARLY not the solution the Yankees need.

:SCOREBOARD:

George should have wacked him...

Maybe, I could have seen it argued either way. My theory is that it probably was the right time to make a move. But that being said, I'm attached to Torre. You see a clip of Yankee classic moments on YES and see Torre crying and waving to the fans after the 2000 World Series and think of all he's done for the team. Bad decision or not, I like that Torre will get one last shot at going out a winner.I'm saying this with my heart more than my head and they probably should fire him, but at least this enhances the chances of trading A-Rod for some pitching. With Lou in town, there's no way A-Rod was going anywhere.

But if Pinella could have gotten .325 45 HR 140 RBI out of A-Rod shouldn't he be the guy? Nobody is going to give up any REAL pitching for A-Rod now. Remember, there were ZERO 20 winners this year!Axe Torre, Sign Zito and get A-Rod head screwed on right = CHAMPIONSHIP. Torre's not in that mix...

I don't know that getting .325 45 HR 140 RBI out of A-Rod should be the goal. A-Rod put up numbers close to those during 2005 yet had a poor postseason, so I don't know that anyone is going to suddenly make him hit better in October. And even if they did, I can't justify hiring Piniella solely to appease A-Rod.If they had hired Piniella, I'd hope it would have had more to do with a shake-up of the attitude and not to coddle one guy in particular. Especially when the two leaders (Jeter and Mo) already went to bat to keep Torre.

 

[El Floppo]

Just to clarify, this is a rumor and not official, right?

It's on the front page of Sunday's N.Y. Daily News... Torre Fired -- To Be Replaced By Piniella.They just showed the cover on ESPN. I'd say that's more than a rumor.

Considering they're the only source talking about this- the rest are just talking about the Daily News story- for now it's still rumor, IMO. As I recall, the Daily News also incorrectly reported somebody winning an election within the last few years on the front page of an early edition (although that could've been the Post) before correcting it in later editions that day.

Well, now that Joe's been fired I guess the Daily News should get lots of credit for getting the first scoop of the story. Maybe President Gore will give them a special award for Journalism.

 

[Workhorse]

The outfield is set with Cabrera in LF

Can we stop the GD Melky Cabrera hype? Seriously? A corner outfielder with a sub-.400 SLG is being made out to be the key to the Yankees winning the world series in 2007. I'm not picking on shady here, but I've heard lots of Yankees fans say this recently. Note: He's not that good.He's only 21 so you'd hope he gets a lot better, but the 21 year old Melky Cabrera wasn't the answer for the 2006 Yankees. I hope he's the answer for the 2008 or 2009 Yankees. But I'm really sick of the "more Melky Cabreras and less Jason Giambis is what the Yankees need" talk.

Even his defense is overrated. He seems to misjudge balls hit over his head often. I'm not all that impressed by Melky.

 

[RKMoney]

now the news is that Torre is staying

 

[Reaper]

The outfield is set with Cabrera in LF

Can we stop the GD Melky Cabrera hype? Seriously? A corner outfielder with a sub-.400 SLG is being made out to be the key to the Yankees winning the world series in 2007. I'm not picking on shady here, but I've heard lots of Yankees fans say this recently. Note: He's not that good.He's only 21 so you'd hope he gets a lot better, but the 21 year old Melky Cabrera wasn't the answer for the 2006 Yankees. I hope he's the answer for the 2008 or 2009 Yankees. But I'm really sick of the "more Melky Cabreras and less Jason Giambis is what the Yankees need" talk.

Even his defense is overrated. He seems to misjudge balls hit over his head often. I'm not all that impressed by Melky.

Not the answer in 2006???? - He did a pretty good job when the injuries hit and sparked the club a bit more than a Sheffield or Matsui.....And Yeah, he's 21 and should get better.......... Hey, he's not an Allstar or anything but, he's a good piece of the future.... This same stuff was said about Cano. I think you need these type of players over Sheffield/Matsui who just come to th epark, punch in and go home.

And as a Yankee, fan, Joe has been AMAZING. He did a good job for years but, It's just time for a change...

If it were me Joe Girardi would be coach today.

 

[Kiddnets]

now the news is that Torre is staying

NJ papers saying that George is leaning toward keeping Torre. Don't put it past George to let this twist in the wind to dominate the back pages while the Mets are still playing. He is that pissed at the situation! I could see them keeping Torre another year - would miss out on girardi and Lou though - that would be tough if it is clear that this is Joes swan song.

 

[Reaper]

How can you even blame this one on Torre? I dont get it...that team played miserably, hows that his fault.

It's not totally his fault... It's just time for a change.Torre has been Wonderful and will always have his place in Yankee lore.... His demeanor and seemingly Ho-Hum attitude coupled with these Stars who just punch a clock seems like bad mix for years now - Nicely stated above - the 1996 Yankees has clubhouse leaders and role players, in some ways, Torre might have gotten more credit than he deserved when the clubhouse had guys who managed themselves quite well..... Now, it seems they need a change and a spark... Someone who can lay down the law a little better....And the fact that just about every player from Jared Wright to Vallone is praising Joe just makes it more of a reason for me to want a change....

 

[RKMoney]

now the news is that Torre is staying

NJ papers saying that George is leaning toward keeping Torre. Don't put it past George to let this twist in the wind to dominate the back pages while the Mets are still playing. He is that pissed at the situation! I could see them keeping Torre another year - would miss out on girardi and Lou though - that would be tough if it is clear that this is Joes swan song.

NY Daily News SUCKSA source has told the New York Post that Joe Torre will not be fired."It looks good for Joe,'' a source said. Torre will meet with the media Tuesday afternoon and by then is expected to have been told he'll be back for a 12th season at the helm of the Yankees. It looks like George Steinbrenner has decided not to eat the $7 million Torre is owed in 2007. Oct. 10 - 9:40 am etSource: New York Post

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Damn, I was hoping to get Lou Pinnella out of the broadcast booth.

 

[Please See Mine]

Per Joe Torre Press Conference as reported by WFAN, Torre will be BACK next year.

 

[Michael Brown]

Francesa (WFAN) just got off the phone with Torre, says he's coming back.