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John Harbaugh/Mike Tomlin exchange after the game (1 Viewer)

Ministry of Pain

Ministry of Pain

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Some of you might have missed this.

Harbaugh walks up and says congratulations, Mike Tomlin wants to just get off the field. Harbaugh grabs him and reels him back in. Tomlin extinguishes the situation, not sure I would have done the same if I were Tomlin.

Anything to talk about here?

 
Both of these coaches come off like jerks at times but I believe I heard Harbaugh had some trash talking comment earlier in the week so the snub was in response.

 
I like the handshake ritual in NFL hockey after a playoff series. 40 guys showing respect.

NFL Coaches seem to #### this up a lot, eh? Beelicheat-Mangina, Harbaugh-Swartz, et al.

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
Some of you might have missed this.

Harbaugh walks up and says congratulations, Mike Tomlin wants to just get off the field. Harbaugh grabs him and reels him back in. Tomlin extinguishes the situation, not sure I would have done the same if I were Tomlin.

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I for one am glad you started yet another thread to show us how socially conscious you truly are. Maybe the coaches should get together after games and drop to one knee in humility, grace and thanks for everything good in the world.
 
'Ministry of Pain said:
Some of you might have missed this.

Harbaugh walks up and says congratulations, Mike Tomlin wants to just get off the field. Harbaugh grabs him and reels him back in. Tomlin extinguishes the situation, not sure I would have done the same if I were Tomlin.

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In the sea of people, it looked like Tomlin may not have even realized who it was - or had his mind on something else.Put another way: who gives a ####?

 
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This is a bias that Harbaugh has caused through his words and press conferences.

Good for Tomlin if he will no longer will waste time or energy on him. Respect is a two-way street.

 
'Warrior said:
'Godsbrother said:
'fruity pebbles said:
Sounded like tomlin told him to f off after being reeled back in lol
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Tomlin's response was "thank you. Good job" and then walked away while patting Flacco on the chest
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[MoP] DRAMA!!!11! [/MoP]
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It's not about me there Dingo, it's about Harbaugh pulling his arm back, surprised Tomlin didn't try and shove him or clock him for doing that. I linked to where the story is running amongst many other sites, up on youtube for a reason.
 
I don't think there's a lot to it.

It wouldn't surprise me if Tomlin was trying to avoid a fake-### meet and greet with someone like Harbaugh. But in the grand scheme of things, not a big deal.

Being a class act and shaking hands isn't a bad thing. But it's probably a mistake to require or expect classy behavior from the other guy during the handshake but not of yourself when running your mouth in press conferences.

 
Goodell is currently reviewing this incident. I expect him to fine James Harrison for it later this week.

 
'GordonGekko said:
'HughHoney said:
Tomlin didn't like Harbaugh saying the tougher team won after their last meeting.
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IMHO, it doesn't matter if Tomlin doesn't like it. Then punch him out after the game and after the press has left the building. Or walk across the field and go into his locker room and hash it out in Harbaugh's office. Or fire barbs back in the press.

Many of the on field rituals about the game are about respecting the game itself. Shaking Harbaugh's hand doesn't mean you have to like or respect Harbaugh, but it means you have to respect the game.

Unwritten rules to every sport. You don't put your feet under a player who is about to land after taking a jumpshot in basketball. You don't signal for time until the umpire has truly called you safe on a steal attempt. You don't run up the score after you have a wide margin of victory assured in football.

Would John Wooden do it? Would John Wooden think it was important to stop, shake hands and acknowledge each other after the game, even if you hate each other's guts? I think yes. The ethical coaching gold standard IMHO is John Wooden in all of sports.

How you feel should have no bearing on doing your job. Tomlin is miffed over a press statement? Who gives a flying ####, do your job. Your job as coach is to be an example to the rest of your team for sportsmanship, even if you don't like it.
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I think this thread is much ado about nothing, but did you even watch the clip? :confused: That (the bolded) is EXACTLY what Tomlin did. He shook Harbaugh's hand; setting the "example to the rest of your team for sportmanship." What more is he required to do, under the unwritten rules of coaching you cite? Should he have engaged in a bear-hug? Does he have to make a statement, and if so, what is the required length of that statement?

Seriously, what do you expect of him (and other coaches)?

 
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'Bayhawks said:
'GordonGekko said:
'HughHoney said:
Tomlin didn't like Harbaugh saying the tougher team won after their last meeting.
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IMHO, it doesn't matter if Tomlin doesn't like it. Then punch him out after the game and after the press has left the building. Or walk across the field and go into his locker room and hash it out in Harbaugh's office. Or fire barbs back in the press.

Many of the on field rituals about the game are about respecting the game itself. Shaking Harbaugh's hand doesn't mean you have to like or respect Harbaugh, but it means you have to respect the game.

Unwritten rules to every sport. You don't put your feet under a player who is about to land after taking a jumpshot in basketball. You don't signal for time until the umpire has truly called you safe on a steal attempt. You don't run up the score after you have a wide margin of victory assured in football.

Would John Wooden do it? Would John Wooden think it was important to stop, shake hands and acknowledge each other after the game, even if you hate each other's guts? I think yes. The ethical coaching gold standard IMHO is John Wooden in all of sports.

How you feel should have no bearing on doing your job. Tomlin is miffed over a press statement? Who gives a flying ####, do your job. Your job as coach is to be an example to the rest of your team for sportsmanship, even if you don't like it.
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I think this thread is much ado about nothing, but did you even watch the clip? :confused: That (the bolded) is EXACTLY what Tomlin did. He shook Harbaugh's hand; setting the "example to the rest of your team for sportmanship." What more is he required to do, under the unwritten rules of coaching you cite? Should he have engaged in a bear-hug? Does he have to make a statement, and if so, what is the required length of that statement?

Seriously, what do you expect of him (and other coaches)?
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:goodposting: Not sure what he wants Tomlin to do. He shook hands and was moving on when Harbaugh yanked him back. Then he said "thank you". What was he supposed to do?

 
Both John & Jim Harbaugh are the 2 biggest a@@ clowns on earth. They love themselves more than anyone or anything in existence. When Harbaugh pulled Tomlin back, Tomlin should have cracked him in his face.

He couldnt stand being humilitated by losing to our 3rd string QB!!!!! Both Harbaughs will be watching the playoffs after they are one and done, both teams are so immensely overrated its not even funny.

 
I didn't notice any animosity in the clip. Looked like Harbaugh had something he wanted to say in addition, but didn't get a chance. His, "Hey, hey" wasn't derisive or demanding, just asking for a second to say something. Tomlin didn't seem put off at all & reacted like a normal person would.

IMO, much ado about nothing.

 
Buddy Ryan had it right (and was generally criticized by some). Win or lose, he just ran to the locker room. Nothing personal, he just didn't participate in the handshake thing.

 
'Ministry of Pain said:
'Warrior said:
'Godsbrother said:
'fruity pebbles said:
Sounded like tomlin told him to f off after being reeled back in lol
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Tomlin's response was "thank you. Good job" and then walked away while patting Flacco on the chest
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[MoP] DRAMA!!!11! [/MoP]
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It's not about me there Dingo, it's about Harbaugh pulling his arm back, surprised Tomlin didn't try and shove him or clock him for doing that. I linked to where the story is running amongst many other sites, up on youtube for a reason.
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:lmao: :lmao:
 
'Fiddles said:
'ConstruxBoy said:
I think they're both giant pricks and this doesn't change my thinking.
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What's your beef with Tomlin?
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Just never liked his attitude, seems like a bit of a #####. Maybe not as much as Harbaugh. But really, this situation adds to that. Harbaugh just lost at home to a bitter rival that was starting their 3rd string QB and he was reasonable trying to shake hands. If either of them should have had an attitude, it was Harbaugh.
 
'GordonGekko said:
'HughHoney said:
Tomlin didn't like Harbaugh saying the tougher team won after their last meeting.
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IMHO, it doesn't matter if Tomlin doesn't like it. Then punch him out after the game and after the press has left the building. Or walk across the field and go into his locker room and hash it out in Harbaugh's office. Or fire barbs back in the press. Many of the on field rituals about the game are about respecting the game itself. Shaking Harbaugh's hand doesn't mean you have to like or respect Harbaugh, but it means you have to respect the game. Unwritten rules to every sport. You don't put your feet under a player who is about to land after taking a jumpshot in basketball. You don't signal for time until the umpire has truly called you safe on a steal attempt. You don't run up the score after you have a wide margin of victory assured in football. Would John Wooden do it? Would John Wooden think it was important to stop, shake hands and acknowledge each other after the game, even if you hate each other's guts? I think yes. The ethical coaching gold standard IMHO is John Wooden in all of sports. How you feel should have no bearing on doing your job. Tomlin is miffed over a press statement? Who gives a flying ####, do your job. Your job as coach is to be an example to the rest of your team for sportsmanship, even if you don't like it.
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:goodposting: I'm a big fan of sportsmanship, like hand shaking after a game.
 
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This has become a yearly event with Harbaugh becoming overly sensitive.

Harbaugh comes to Ravens QB's defense after musical diss

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By NFL.com

Published: November 9, 2011 at 4:29 PM

Modified: November 10, 2011 at 5:15 PM

Even by the standards of his lineage, John Harbaugh was impressively manic Sunday night in the afterglow of the Ravens' huge AFC North victory over the Steelers. The coach held his postgame news conference with a bloody chin and at one point directly addressed the camera as if "Mean" Gene Okerlund were standing next to him at Wrestlemania.

The whole thing was off-kilter in a beautiful way.

On Wednesday, we might have learned part of the reason why Harbaugh was so amped up by a win that -- obvious ramifications of the rivalry aside -- was a regular-season game in early November.

Before Baltimore's game-winning, 92-yard drive late in the fourth quarter, the Jumbotron at Heinz Field flashed an image comparing the stats of Ben Roethlisberger and Joe Flacco while the Lynyrd Skynyrd song "What's Your Name" blared from the public-address system. The chorus of the 1977 hit begins with, "What's your name, little girl?"

That angered Harbaugh, who was bothered enough by the presumed insinuation that his QB was female that he later pulled aside a Baltimore Sun reporter to point it out.

This seems like a leap in logic by Harbaugh, but beyond that, we find it incredible that he processed this during the biggest moment of his team's season. When asked about Skynyrd-gate, Flacco was amusingly clueless.

"I have no idea what you're talking about," the quarterback told The Sun , genuinely confused. "They were playing a song?"

Classic Flacco. As for the choice of music by Heinz Field personnel, eh. If you really wanted to go for the jugular, why not go with Beck's "Loser"? We could've had a Harbaugh head explosion on our hands.

 
You guys arguing the Harbaugh Brothers lack of class realize that John H = Jim Schwartz and Jim H = Tomlin in these instances right?

 
'Bayhawks said:
'GordonGekko said:
'HughHoney said:
Tomlin didn't like Harbaugh saying the tougher team won after their last meeting.
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IMHO, it doesn't matter if Tomlin doesn't like it. Then punch him out after the game and after the press has left the building. Or walk across the field and go into his locker room and hash it out in Harbaugh's office. Or fire barbs back in the press.

Many of the on field rituals about the game are about respecting the game itself. Shaking Harbaugh's hand doesn't mean you have to like or respect Harbaugh, but it means you have to respect the game.

Unwritten rules to every sport. You don't put your feet under a player who is about to land after taking a jumpshot in basketball. You don't signal for time until the umpire has truly called you safe on a steal attempt. You don't run up the score after you have a wide margin of victory assured in football.

Would John Wooden do it? Would John Wooden think it was important to stop, shake hands and acknowledge each other after the game, even if you hate each other's guts? I think yes. The ethical coaching gold standard IMHO is John Wooden in all of sports.

How you feel should have no bearing on doing your job. Tomlin is miffed over a press statement? Who gives a flying ####, do your job. Your job as coach is to be an example to the rest of your team for sportsmanship, even if you don't like it.
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I think this thread is much ado about nothing, but did you even watch the clip? :confused: That (the bolded) is EXACTLY what Tomlin did. He shook Harbaugh's hand; setting the "example to the rest of your team for sportmanship." What more is he required to do, under the unwritten rules of coaching you cite? Should he have engaged in a bear-hug? Does he have to make a statement, and if so, what is the required length of that statement?

Seriously, what do you expect of him (and other coaches)?
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You really think that was a legit, respectful exchange from Tomlin? Harbaugh obviously felt slighted which is why he pulled him back in, Tomlin gave him the "yea ok whatever" handshake and didn't even seem to look at him and Harbaugh felt disrespected. In the end, it's just two ego filled male adults acting like women. :lmao:
 
'Billy Bats said:
You really think that was a legit, respectful exchange from Tomlin? Harbaugh obviously felt slighted which is why he pulled him back in, Tomlin gave him the "yea ok whatever" handshake and didn't even seem to look at him and Harbaugh felt disrespected. In the end, it's just two ego filled male adults acting like women. :lmao:
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According to Tomlin, he likes to meet his team in the tunnel after every game and he was seeing his players leave the field quickly and was in a hurry to be there. He said he shook Harbaugh's hand, as well as other Ravens, quickly just to get to the tunnel. Tomlin isn't known to give out a ton of info but he usually is a straight-talker and this is exactly how it looked to me. Obviously Harbaugh was looking for more of an exchange and I suppose Tomlin should have said something but Harbaugh pulling Tomlin back like that was bizarre.
 
'Billy Bats said:
You really think that was a legit, respectful exchange from Tomlin? Harbaugh obviously felt slighted which is why he pulled him back in, Tomlin gave him the "yea ok whatever" handshake and didn't even seem to look at him and Harbaugh felt disrespected. In the end, it's just two ego filled male adults acting like women. :lmao:
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My point BB if I wasn't clear is I don't like Harbaugh making a big deal about it. He should have just let it go. The pulling back of Tomlin I think was over the line. What if Tomlin had reacted different or just looked him down, it could have escalated.
 
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