Joique Bell (1 Viewer)

[Alex P Keaton]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/09/joique_bell_still_the_lions_no.html

It's not impossible that Bells Achilles injury saps some of his effectiveness. Obviously he'll get a chance to prove he's still himself. But if he can't, it wouldn't be the first time a 29 year old RB goes down the path of becoming obsolete.

And not just any 29 year old RB. But a 29 year old RB who was UDFA. He isn't a major talent. Then again, neither was Fred Jackson on paper.....

 

[Ilov80s]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/09/joique_bell_still_the_lions_no.html

It's not impossible that Bells Achilles injury saps some of his effectiveness. Obviously he'll get a chance to prove he's still himself. But if he can't, it wouldn't be the first time a 29 year old RB goes down the path of becoming obsolete.

And not just any 29 year old RB. But a 29 year old RB who was UDFA. He isn't a major talent. Then again, neither was Fred Jackson on paper.....

When you ignore the YPC and UDFA an watch him play, you see he is a good NFL back. He gets extra yards through small cuts, spin moves, and just running through tacklers. To paraphrase off what Chris Harris has said, he is very similar to Lacy and when you watch the games, you can tell this is a guy that punishes defenses.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNg25kvlAzQ

 

[habsfan]

Joique was working with the 1st team offense today.

https://twitter.com/ttwentyman/status/638455749375565827

Was there ever a doubt that he'd be working with the 1st team when healthy? Were people expecting Zenner to usurp his early down role?

If he can't finally crawl above 4 yards/carry he may start but he won't be on the field much. They have too many guys that can do better than that and haven't been hobbled by injuries.

If I had a dollar for every promotion/demotion a fantasy owner thought should happen but didn't, I'd be rich...

 

[Alex P Keaton]

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/09/joique_bell_still_the_lions_no.html

It's not impossible that Bells Achilles injury saps some of his effectiveness. Obviously he'll get a chance to prove he's still himself. But if he can't, it wouldn't be the first time a 29 year old RB goes down the path of becoming obsolete.

And not just any 29 year old RB. But a 29 year old RB who was UDFA. He isn't a major talent. Then again, neither was Fred Jackson on paper.....

When you ignore the YPC and UDFA an watch him play, you see he is a good NFL back. He gets extra yards through small cuts, spin moves, and just running through tacklers. To paraphrase off what Chris Harris has said, he is very similar to Lacy and when you watch the games, you can tell this is a guy that punishes defenses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNg25kvlAzQ

I like Joique, don't get me wrong. But relative to NFL players he isn't an elite athlete, and now he might lose some of his athleticism to injuries. AP can afford to lose a little; Joique Bell cannot.Definitely get your point though.

 

[JuniorNB]

I wouldn't pretend that ypc is irrelevant. I mean, only three running backs (min 150 carries) ran for sub 4ypc in 2013 and 2014; they are Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson and Joique Bell and only one of these guys has a job atm.

Still, Bell has been all around very solid for DET which is why I can understand their attachment. He has showcased a 3-down skill set (good in short yardage situations, good pass blocker/catcher). He lacks true play making ability but that's why they brought in Abdullah.

If I were Bell, I'd refuse to take those goal line carries from the 1 or 2 yard line. They hurt his yards per carry.

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I wouldn't pretend that ypc is irrelevant. I mean, only three running backs (min 150 carries) ran for sub 4ypc in 2013 and 2014; they are Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson and Joique Bell and only one of these guys has a job atm.

Still, Bell has been all around very solid for DET which is why I can understand their attachment. He has showcased a 3-down skill set (good in short yardage situations, good pass blocker/catcher). He lacks true play making ability but that's why they brought in Abdullah.

If I were Bell, I'd refuse to take those goal line carries from the 1 or 2 yard line. They hurt his yards per carry.

That must explain Arian Foster's low ypc too. Wait.....

 

[JuniorNB]

I wouldn't pretend that ypc is irrelevant. I mean, only three running backs (min 150 carries) ran for sub 4ypc in 2013 and 2014; they are Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson and Joique Bell and only one of these guys has a job atm.

Still, Bell has been all around very solid for DET which is why I can understand their attachment. He has showcased a 3-down skill set (good in short yardage situations, good pass blocker/catcher). He lacks true play making ability but that's why they brought in Abdullah.

If I were Bell, I'd refuse to take those goal line carries from the 1 or 2 yard line. They hurt his yards per carry.

That must explain Arian Foster's low ypc too. Wait.....

It was a joke skippy. Lighten up

 

[Alex P Keaton]

I wouldn't pretend that ypc is irrelevant. I mean, only three running backs (min 150 carries) ran for sub 4ypc in 2013 and 2014; they are Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson and Joique Bell and only one of these guys has a job atm.

Still, Bell has been all around very solid for DET which is why I can understand their attachment. He has showcased a 3-down skill set (good in short yardage situations, good pass blocker/catcher). He lacks true play making ability but that's why they brought in Abdullah.

If I were Bell, I'd refuse to take those goal line carries from the 1 or 2 yard line. They hurt his yards per carry.

That must explain Arian Foster's low ypc too. Wait.....

It was a joke skippy. Lighten up

Ok chief. We both know some people actually believe comments like that

 

[LBH]

This will be a committee the same way Lendale White and Chris Johnson were a committee CJs rookie year imo

 

[BoltBacker]

Joique was working with the 1st team offense today.

https://twitter.com/ttwentyman/status/638455749375565827

Was there ever a doubt that he'd be working with the 1st team when healthy? Were people expecting Zenner to usurp his early down role?

If he can't finally crawl above 4 yards/carry he may start but he won't be on the field much. They have too many guys that can do better than that and haven't been hobbled by injuries.

According to the coach's it's Bell's job.

Not saying something can't change during the season, but starting out as long as Bell is healthy, he will be seeing about 15 touches a game including short yardage.

So, a Steven Jackson type workload? Maybe.

To me AA, ZZ, and maybe even Riddick could be more productive than Freeman was last year. If those three would have been on the Falcons I doubt Jackson would have mustered that many touches.

 

[BoltBacker]

I wouldn't pretend that ypc is irrelevant. I mean, only three running backs (min 150 carries) ran for sub 4ypc in 2013 and 2014; they are Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson and Joique Bell and only one of these guys has a job atm.

Still, Bell has been all around very solid for DET which is why I can understand their attachment. He has showcased a 3-down skill set (good in short yardage situations, good pass blocker/catcher). He lacks true play making ability but that's why they brought in Abdullah.

If I were Bell, I'd refuse to take those goal line carries from the 1 or 2 yard line. They hurt his yards per carry.

He ran the ball 223 times. He ran out of field 7 times. I don't think a high number of short touchdowns explains his ypc.

 

[JuniorNB]

I wouldn't pretend that ypc is irrelevant. I mean, only three running backs (min 150 carries) ran for sub 4ypc in 2013 and 2014; they are Steven Jackson, Trent Richardson and Joique Bell and only one of these guys has a job atm.

Still, Bell has been all around very solid for DET which is why I can understand their attachment. He has showcased a 3-down skill set (good in short yardage situations, good pass blocker/catcher). He lacks true play making ability but that's why they brought in Abdullah.

If I were Bell, I'd refuse to take those goal line carries from the 1 or 2 yard line. They hurt his yards per carry.

He ran the ball 223 times. He ran out of field 7 times. I don't think a high number of short touchdowns explains his ypc.

Damn. You got me

 

[TDorBust]

So what happened this weekend? Is he droppable in redraft at this point now?

 

[chauncey]

This thread is awfully quiet.

I wouldn't drop him yet if you drafted him. Give him a few more weeks to see how the distribution plays out between him and AA, and see if he returns to his level of play from the past few years. I did not keep him in any of my leagues this year, he is already dead to me. For his sake I hope he bounces back.

 

[djjosee]

Dropped him for Sproles ..

 

[ATB]

Guy in my league dropped him this morning and I can't help remembering the numbers he put up last year.

Should I pick him up? How could he go from bell cow to droppable so quickly? AA is just that good?

 

[One]

Dropped him for Sproles ..

In a 14 Teamer??

 

[shadyridr]

Guy in my league dropped him this morning and I can't help remembering the numbers he put up last year.

Should I pick him up? How could he go from bell cow to droppable so quickly? AA is just that good?

He was never a bell cow. Always in a RBBC. Don't see why that would change. I think he should be rostered.

 

[ATB]

Guy in my league dropped him this morning and I can't help remembering the numbers he put up last year.

Should I pick him up? How could he go from bell cow to droppable so quickly? AA is just that good?

He was never a bell cow. Always in a RBBC. Don't see why that would change. I think he should be rostered.

Seemed like a bellcow last year. Was it only bc Bush has perpetually injured toothpicks for legs?

 

[djjosee]

Dropped him for Sproles ..

In a 14 Teamer??

Sorry ... ignore signature. 12 team league .5 PPR

 

[Spartans Rule]

Lions offensive line looked like garbage against San Diego, although they were missing their best run blocker in Larry Warford.

Bell's still a solid player but he's not explosive and needs blocking to be effective. Abdullah can make something out of nothing and clearly looked like the better of the two.

Bell still belongs on a roster, but he's not real exciting. To have fantasy value, he either needs the Lions offense to play better all-around or Abdullah to get hurt.

 

[Arodin]

Bell is likely not 100% yet...if you have the space, he's worth a hold, in case he improves as he gets his strength back.

And for all the folks talking up how Abdullah's prospects would skyrocket with a Bell injury, the flip argument exists as well. Bell's value, if Abdullah is hurt, could move into startable territory.

 

[One]

Dropped him for Sproles ..

In a 14 Teamer??

Sorry ... ignore signature. 12 team league .5 PPR

Ah, that makes more sense. All depends on how many RBs are rostered.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Not gonna drop him, but really hoping Gurley gets in soon. Def starting Mason over him this week as long as he plays.

 

[Faust]

Ameer Abdullah, Joique Bell could both be strong fantasy plays Sunday

 

[devouredbychaos]

So what's everyone doing with Bell at this point? Worth holding onto or waiver wire fodder?

 

[sandlotshrink]

Yes, he can be dropped based on limited upside. Currently a 3-headed approach in Detroit so even if AA or Riddick get hurt, it will become a RBBC with the 2 healthy RB's.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Cut him for Crowell this morning, seems like very limited upside on a bad team.

 

[devouredbychaos]

I'd definitely take Crowell over him at this point. I'll be dropping him to add D'angelo so I can handcuff Le'Veon. I figure that's more important right now.

 

[the spanker]

Yeah I cut him to pick up Jordan Reed. Will monitor him though.

 

[McGarnicle]

JFC, he was a must start for me down the stretch last year. I'd hold a bench spot for the guy.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Joique Bell's Detroit

He's a good man.

 

[dickey moe]

Joique Bell's Detroit

He's a good man.

Great story.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Joique Bell - RB - Lions

The Lions are expected to reduce Joique Bell’s role if he "doesn’t find his old form soon."

Lions reporter Michael Rothstein believes Bell "doesn’t have the same power or burst out of the backfield," and "has looked hesitant" on his runs. Ameer Abdullah started and played 31 snaps in Week 2. Already in a limited committee role, Bell could be relegated to backup status if his struggles continue.

Source: ESPN.com

Sep 26 - 7:42 PM

 

[chauncey]

Joique Bell's Detroit

He's a good man.

Great story.

Thanks for posting that Bobby. Joique is a humble warrior. I hope he recovers completely from his surgeries and gets back to being productive on the field. Very cool that he becomes a millionaire in the same town he was scraping by in just a few years ago.

 

[Faust]

Lions rule RB Joique Bell out against Seahawks with ankle injury:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13798614/detroit-lions-rule-rb-joique-bell-seattle-seahawks-ankle-injury

 

[stbugs]

Joique Bell's Detroit

He's a good man.

Great story.

Thanks for posting that Bobby. Joique is a humble warrior. I hope he recovers completely from his surgeries and gets back to being productive on the field. Very cool that he becomes a millionaire in the same town he was scraping by in just a few years ago.

Amazing story. I hope he comes back healthy, sounds like a great guy.

 

[One]

Held Bell up to this point. Is it time to cut bait for Zenner?

 

[shadyridr]

Lmfao id drop him for anybody

 

[JMJ]

Does anyone even know how/when he got hurt?

I don't recall seeing/hearing about anything until Thursday when he just simply didn't practice - And now he can't practice at all on it? Anyone else thinking this could turn in to long term thing? Complications from previous surgery(s) perhaps?

 

[Faust]

Lions' Bell says he feels best he has in years

 

[Doubledown1313]

Detroit has released him.

 

[BoltBacker]

Detroit has released him.

I wonder if this bumps him down to the third round for Chris Harris?

 

[grateful zed]

Joique Bell ‏@JoiqueBell Aug 31
My motto "Always stay ready so you never have to get ready."

 

[The Kerminator]

Bell is expected to sign with Green Bay on Monday according to Ian Rappaport twitter

 

[Chaka]

So much for the "James Starks will be the unquestioned #1 RB when he comes back" theory.

This is an avoid at all cost situation.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Ha sheesh.

McCarthy just can't stand too much of a good thing.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Come to think of it though this might reflect on what's going on with Cobb.

 

[The Kerminator]

Local writers saying that Bell will be in for a workout on Monday. Nothing about a signing.

 

[The Kerminator]

Ha sheesh.

McCarthy just can't stand too much of a good thing.

What's that good thing? Starks? Jackson? Ripkowski? Starks has shown his age. Jackson hasn't done anything with his time. Ripkowski is just a FB that will get you some tough yards but not an every down RB. IMO Montgomery is still the plan and Bell (if he does indeed sign) is a depth move.