Jordy Nelson - OUT for rest of training camp (knee procedure) (1 Viewer)

[Andrew74]

As a Jones/Cobb owner . Take your time recovering Jordy. The end of 2013 would be just fine.

Thanks, you sealed Cobb's fate with the bad mojo.

 

[KellysHeroes]

not like his season is over, he'll miss a game or 2.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Yeah. Right after he gets ####### hurt? I understand the severity has yet to be determined. Nobody has been Touching "up there" have they?

 

[Touchdown There]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Yeah. Right after he gets ####### hurt? I understand the severity has yet to be determined. Nobody has been Touching "up there" have they?

Up. Down. Everywhere.

As for Cobb, I think the injury is more severe than people know. Even if the Pack said it was a biceps tear openly, nearly all fantasy players will still give him the benefit of the doubt to be "good to go" as it is "just a arm muscle". In reality, he will likely have surgery and be out for the season if he has a full disconnect. If he has a partial tear, it will affect his receiving ability in a major way. You can expect fewer targets in this scenario and possibly PUP. The last thing I want out of my breakout receiver candidate is for him to try to play through a biceps tear.

Huge Pack fan here. Terrible run of luck in Green Bay.

 

[Andrew74]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Yeah. Right after he gets ####### hurt? I understand the severity has yet to be determined. Nobody has been Touching "up there" have they?

Up. Down. Everywhere.

As for Cobb, I think the injury is more severe than people know. Even if the Pack said it was a biceps tear openly, nearly all fantasy players will still give him the benefit of the doubt to be "good to go" as it is "just a arm muscle". In reality, he will likely have surgery and be out for the season if he has a full disconnect. If he has a partial tear, it will affect his receiving ability in a major way. You can expect fewer targets in this scenario and possibly PUP. The last thing I want out of my breakout receiver candidate is for him to try to play through a biceps tear.

Huge Pack fan here. Terrible run of luck in Green Bay.

Did I miss some news or are you in full Packers homer meltdown mode?

 

[jurb26]

Touchdown There knows things. I'd listen to him on this. I've known several guys who had various leves of bicep tears and its been a long recovery every time. Full tears are extremely difficult to recover from and a guy I know is going thru it currently. Nothing good about this news IMO.

 

[Touchdown There]

Touchdown There knows things. I'd listen to him on this. I've known several guys who had various leves of bicep tears and its been a long recovery every time. Full tears are extremely difficult to recover from and a guy I know is going thru it currently. Nothing good about this news IMO.

Not only that it is very easy to hide from the public because the player is not down on the field and no media response/worry.

When I tore my biceps it was the worst kind: full distal disconnect. Edit to add: this means my bicep tendon disconnected at the elbow joint and rolled up into my shoulder.

 

[jurb26]

Touchdown There knows things. I'd listen to him on this. I've known several guys who had various leves of bicep tears and its been a long recovery every time. Full tears are extremely difficult to recover from and a guy I know is going thru it currently. Nothing good about this news IMO.

Not only that it is very easy to hide from the public because the player is not down on the field and no media response/worry.

When I tore my biceps it was the worst kind: full distal disconnect. Edit to add: this means my bicep tendon disconnected at the elbow joint and rolled up into my shoulder.

Sorry to hear that. That is the absolute worst kind and the same the guy I know is going thru right now. He's 7 months post surgery and still can't move his arm. I think he said it would be another month until the brace thing is off and then who knows how long the rehab is. Even if its not fully torn like that a partial tear will jeopardize range of motion for a LONG time. Thus impacting receiving ability as you said earlier.

The best he can hope for at this point is it was minor and he has a really high tolerance for pain.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson underwent knee surgery Monday and will be out 4-6 weeks.
Per ESPN's Adam Schefter, doctors somehow still expect Nelson to be back for Week 1. The surgery is an attempt to correct an old nerve issue that's bothered him since college. Nelson did miss four games last year and was limited in a handful of others, but that was due to hamstring and ankle issues. He hasn't had any known knee flare-ups since 2009. Regardless, Nelson now appears highly unlikely to hit the ground running even if he does suit up against the Niners on Sept. 8. Randall Cobb, James Jones and Jermichael Finley all get a boost. Jarrett Boykin is the top candidate to replace Nelson in three-wide formations.

Related: Jermichael Finley, Randall Cobb, James Jones, Jarrett Boykin

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter

 

[KellysHeroes]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Yeah. Right after he gets ####### hurt? I understand the severity has yet to be determined. Nobody has been Touching "up there" have they?

Up. Down. Everywhere.

As for Cobb, I think the injury is more severe than people know. Even if the Pack said it was a biceps tear openly, nearly all fantasy players will still give him the benefit of the doubt to be "good to go" as it is "just a arm muscle". In reality, he will likely have surgery and be out for the season if he has a full disconnect. If he has a partial tear, it will affect his receiving ability in a major way. You can expect fewer targets in this scenario and possibly PUP. The last thing I want out of my breakout receiver candidate is for him to try to play through a biceps tear.

Huge Pack fan here. Terrible run of luck in Green Bay.

Did I miss some news or are you in full Packers homer meltdown mode?

RIGHT!!! please provide link.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1729044-randall-cobb-injury-updates-on-packers-stars-shoulder

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/23039221/randall-cobb-leaves-packers-practice-with-shoulder-injury

 

[Leonidas]

Touchdown There knows things. I'd listen to him on this. I've known several guys who had various leves of bicep tears and its been a long recovery every time. Full tears are extremely difficult to recover from and a guy I know is going thru it currently. Nothing good about this news IMO.

This.

A full on bicep tear is a big deal. I weightlift and follow it a bit, when a strongman or powerlifting competitor tears a bicep (not terribly uncommon) it is a BIG DEAL.

I know somebody who did it...it was weeks before he was even supposed to lift a glass of water.

 

[Touchdown There]

RIGHT!!! please provide link.

Sure thing: Link

 

[Goldfinger007]

As a Jones/Cobb owner . Take your time recovering Jordy. The end of 2013 would be just fine.

Everyone has an opinion, but If I were a Jones/Cobb owner, that's not what I'd be asking for. This game is all about match ups. Cobb and particularly Jones benefitted greatly last year from teams not being able to concentrate on them. Sure, you could reasonably expect their targets to go up, but with one less threat available, opposing teams will be able to concentrate their coverage. That will give GB much less glaring mismatches, which at least theoretically should result in a lower completion percentage and more importantly TD's. If I were you, I'd be sending Jordy a get well soon card.

 

[ImTheScientist]

This is not good.

 

[fruity pebbles]

The way guys are dropping like flies, im fine with him being out til the season starts

 

[dewaser]

just got him for $13 in a $200 auction league. I like it

 

[cheatsheetwarroom]

Well I guess that makes it easier to sort-out who the top 2 receiving targets will be in Green Bay. Bummer for Jordy but he could still be great value for someone.

 

[ItsOnlytheRiver]

Well I guess that makes it easier to sort-out who the top 2 receiving targets will be in Green Bay. Bummer for Jordy but he could still be great value for someone.

Did you misread the thread title?

 

[sho nuff]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Yeah. Right after he gets ####### hurt? I understand the severity has yet to be determined. Nobody has been Touching "up there" have they?

Up. Down. Everywhere.

As for Cobb, I think the injury is more severe than people know. Even if the Pack said it was a biceps tear openly, nearly all fantasy players will still give him the benefit of the doubt to be "good to go" as it is "just a arm muscle". In reality, he will likely have surgery and be out for the season if he has a full disconnect. If he has a partial tear, it will affect his receiving ability in a major way. You can expect fewer targets in this scenario and possibly PUP. The last thing I want out of my breakout receiver candidate is for him to try to play through a biceps tear.

Huge Pack fan here. Terrible run of luck in Green Bay.

TD There knows things alright. Like how to overreact and speculate.

Cobb is back in pads for this morning's practice.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod16m
Randall Cobb (bicep) back in pads #Packers

Retweeted by Packers News

 

[Andrew74]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Yeah. Right after he gets ####### hurt? I understand the severity has yet to be determined. Nobody has been Touching "up there" have they?

Up. Down. Everywhere.

As for Cobb, I think the injury is more severe than people know. Even if the Pack said it was a biceps tear openly, nearly all fantasy players will still give him the benefit of the doubt to be "good to go" as it is "just a arm muscle". In reality, he will likely have surgery and be out for the season if he has a full disconnect. If he has a partial tear, it will affect his receiving ability in a major way. You can expect fewer targets in this scenario and possibly PUP. The last thing I want out of my breakout receiver candidate is for him to try to play through a biceps tear.

Huge Pack fan here. Terrible run of luck in Green Bay.

TD There knows things alright. Like how to overreact and speculate.Cobb is back in pads for this morning's practice.

Wes Hodkiewicz ‏@WesHod16m

Randall Cobb (bicep) back in pads #Packers

Retweeted by Packers News

Unpossible!!!

 

[sho nuff]

I know...how can a guy practice with a totally ripped apart bicep.

 

[KellysHeroes]

just got him for $13 in a $200 auction league. I like it

good job, id take that

 

[KellysHeroes]

Well I guess that makes it easier to sort-out who the top 2 receiving targets will be in Green Bay. Bummer for Jordy but he could still be great value for someone.

Nelson is only missing a game or 2, with that time table he could be ready for the season opener.

 

[ROYALWITCHEESE]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

This is a lie. Long head of biceps tear is not necessarily a season ending injury. Many are rehabbed well, and aside from Popeye deformity only lose 10-20% of biceps strength. Many repairs rerupture anyway. So, in a way, a rupture could be less time missed than a chronic injury.

 

[Touchdown There]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

This is a lie. Long head of biceps tear is not necessarily a season ending injury. Many are rehabbed well, and aside from Popeye deformity only lose 10-20% of biceps strength. Many repairs rerupture anyway. So, in a way, a rupture could be less time missed than a chronic injury.

You are talking long head of muscle. The discussion above was on biceps tendon. Relief to hear Cobb is back.

 

[Eviloutsider]

I thought I heard that Cobb was practicing today as well.

 

[Pipes]

I thought I heard that Cobb was practicing today as well.

He is... just some ####### message board idiots not knowing what they're talking about.

 

[Touchdown There]

I thought I heard that Cobb was practicing today as well.

He is... just some ####### message board idiots not knowing what they're talking about.

Let it go Steelers.

 

[Ilov80s]

As a Jones/Cobb owner . Take your time recovering Jordy. The end of 2013 would be just fine.

Thanks, you sealed Cobb's fate with the bad mojo.

That isn't bad mojo. It is bad mojo to wish a player gets hurt. However, Jordy was already hurt and Mr. Beerguzzler was simply hoping that he took took his time to recover 100% so that he doesn't re-injure himself or perhaps suffer from an arthritic condition later in life.

 

[Tony Jabroni]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

This is a lie. Long head of biceps tear is not necessarily a season ending injury. Many are rehabbed well, and aside from Popeye deformity only lose 10-20% of biceps strength. Many repairs rerupture anyway. So, in a way, a rupture could be less time missed than a chronic injury.

You are talking long head of muscle. The discussion above was on biceps tendon. Relief to hear Cobb is back.

My apologies from one Pack fan to another for the prior disrespect. I just thought it as a liiiitle overreaction. Thankful Mr. Cobb is back in pads today.

 

[J Giles Band]

Red alert on Cobb, not Jordy Nelson. If Cobb has a biceps tear, he could be out the year.

Complete biceps tendon disconnect = done for season

Partial biceps tendon tear = PUP to start the year

Biceps strain or hyper extension = Day to day

If you own Cobb in a redraft, you may want to trade him away right now.

Overreact much? <_<

I guess you didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night. In the future you might hold off on the amateur diagnosis until you've actually seen the patient... thanks.

 

[JustinHawkins]

so back to Nelson...would you guys still draft him in a PPR redraft over say, guys like Wallace, A. Brown, Steve and Torrey Smith?

 

[ImTheScientist]

so back to Nelson...would you guys still draft him in a PPR redraft over say, guys like Wallace, A. Brown, Steve and Torrey Smith?

Yes, I would. Better offen

 

[cstu]

so back to Nelson...would you guys still draft him in a PPR redraft over say, guys like Wallace, A. Brown, Steve and Torrey Smith?

Absolutely. I do it even if I knew Nelson was going to miss a couple regular season games.

 

[Ilov80s]

so back to Nelson...would you guys still draft him in a PPR redraft over say, guys like Wallace, A. Brown, Steve and Torrey Smith?

Absolutely. I do it even if I knew Nelson was going to miss a couple regular season games.

Other than Steve Smith whom I kind of like at his ADP, however, I am very gunshy on Nelson right now. Wasn't part of his lesser production due to injury last year? It's making me more and more interested in James Jones.

 

[tsarc888]

what I'm trying to get a handle on is the likelihood or this effecting him early in the season or lingering. From Dr. Jene post, while not guaranteed, it sounds like this shouldn't be too much of a worry going forward. Unless I'm misinterpreting it.

I think for me, I will draft him with the understanding that he won't be up to full speed until week 3. That is of course, just a semi-educated guess. Everyone else I draft should be healthy to start the season, and no byes, so can use WR4 for weeks 1-2.

that being said, I'll look to see how fare he slides and pounce on a potential value. That is my "Jordy Nelson Plan" anyone else?

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

 

[cstu]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

 

[meyerj31]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

I'm drafting him expecting him to miss two weeks then be full go. He's easily a 5th round value for me. If Lacy brings up that 8th defender to the box .... watch out for Nelson. How many of those 15 TDs in 2011 were deep shots of over 20 yards? Nearly all of them? If defenses have to respect the run Nelson is going to explode again.

 

[sho nuff]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

I'm drafting him expecting him to miss two weeks then be full go. He's easily a 5th round value for me. If Lacy brings up that 8th defender to the box .... watch out for Nelson. How many of those 15 TDs in 2011 were deep shots of over 20 yards? Nearly all of them? If defenses have to respect the run Nelson is going to explode again.

Agreed loving Nelson's value.

While others overpay for Cobb and a little bit for Jones chasing last year's TD numbers. I will gladly scoop up Nelson.

 

[silentcoach]

Nelson affects Finley's value, so this is an interesting situation to follow.

 

[sho nuff]

Nelson affects Finley's value, so this is an interesting situation to follow.

I disagree to an extent...I think Cobb's health will affect Finley's value much more.

 

[silentcoach]

Nelson affects Finley's value, so this is an interesting situation to follow.

I disagree to an extent...I think Cobb's health will affect Finley's value much more.

That too.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee surgery) isn't committing to playing in Week 1 against the 49ers.
Nelson said his recovery is "slowly progressing." He's been running, but only on a weightless machine that "allows you to run and not put all the pounding on your legs." Asked about his Week 1 availability, Nelson replied "You never know." With no practice or preseason reps, Nelson's early-season conditioning could be another concern even if he's playing. "There's things you can do in the training room to hopefully get your wind somewhat close," he said. "Football is football and you need to play games to really be in shape. ... You never know what could happen. We'll just continue to go day by day."

Source: Fox Sports Wisconsin

 

[tsarc888]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

I'm drafting him expecting him to miss two weeks then be full go. He's easily a 5th round value for me. If Lacy brings up that 8th defender to the box .... watch out for Nelson. How many of those 15 TDs in 2011 were deep shots of over 20 yards? Nearly all of them? If defenses have to respect the run Nelson is going to explode again.

I have trouble expecting an 8th defender in the box for as long as Aaron Rodgers is the QB of the Packers.

 

[meyerj31]

I'm drafting him expecting him to miss two weeks then be full go. He's easily a 5th round value for me. If Lacy brings up that 8th defender to the box .... watch out for Nelson. How many of those 15 TDs in 2011 were deep shots of over 20 yards? Nearly all of them? If defenses have to respect the run Nelson is going to explode again.

I have trouble expecting an 8th defender in the box for as long as Aaron Rodgers is the QB of the Packers.

It's going to happen if Lacy runs this year anything like he did in that preseason game.

There are two things defenses fear most: power runners and speedy receivers.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

I'm drafting him expecting him to miss two weeks then be full go. He's easily a 5th round value for me. If Lacy brings up that 8th defender to the box .... watch out for Nelson. How many of those 15 TDs in 2011 were deep shots of over 20 yards? Nearly all of them? If defenses have to respect the run Nelson is going to explode again.

Agreed loving Nelson's value.

While others overpay for Cobb and a little bit for Jones chasing last year's TD numbers. I will gladly scoop up Nelson.

Nelson was just taken in the middle of the 5thwhile I took Jones at 6.01, Jones being the only healthy Packer WR I'd take that everytime

 

[BroadwayG]

Boykin time!

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

why? SF vs the pass isnt that great and week1 should be a shoot out. I for one want Jordy out there

 

[Koya]

Rotoworld:

Jordy Nelson (knee scope) says his recovery is "on schedule," and he has been working on an indoor field as the Packers practice in training camp.
"Our main goal is San Fran (Week 1)," Nelson said. "And that’s just a goal. You never know what could happen. We’ll just continue to go day by day." Nelson called the scope "minor," adding "if it was that significant, I wouldn't be out here in two weeks." Nelson is still questionable for the opener. He's gone from a fourth-round fantasy pick to a fifth- or sixth-round risk.


Source: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel

While not as good as a guarantee, at least it's something to be optimistic about. Given the matchup I actually wouldn't mind if he missed week 1.

I'm drafting him expecting him to miss two weeks then be full go. He's easily a 5th round value for me. If Lacy brings up that 8th defender to the box .... watch out for Nelson. How many of those 15 TDs in 2011 were deep shots of over 20 yards? Nearly all of them? If defenses have to respect the run Nelson is going to explode again.

Agreed loving Nelson's value.

While others overpay for Cobb and a little bit for Jones chasing last year's TD numbers. I will gladly scoop up Nelson.

Nelson was just taken in the middle of the 5thwhile I took Jones at 6.01, Jones being the only healthy Packer WR I'd take that everytime

Was able to get Jones early 7th today, Nelson went a couple rounds earlier, FWIW. Jones in in there with a bunch of guys ADP wise like TY Hilton, T. Smith et al, and they seemed to begin to go in the 7th for that one draft.