Joseph Addai Not Expected To Play This Week (1 Viewer)

[packersfan]

From RotoWorld:

Colts coach Tony Dungy says he doesn't expect Joseph Addai (hamstring) to be available Sunday at Green Bay.

The Indianapolis Star also doesn't foresee Addai playing, meaning Dominic Rhodes would start. The Packers' run defense is weak these days, with Cullen Jenkins on I.R. and Ryan Pickett's (triceps) status uncertain. Rhodes ran effectively in Week 6 and will have running lanes with the passing game back humming.

Source: Indianapolis Star

Related: Dominic Rhodes

 

[zamboni]

We Addai owners have to hope that Rhodes doesn't play that well, or we could be seeing much more of an RBBC the rest of the way (like the first half of 2006). May happen anyway to preserve Addai's health.

 

[Oscar]

Is Rhodes a must start versus a suspect Green Bay defense?

 

[GoBirds]

Damn, just offered LJ and Lenwhale for Addai/Rhodes hoping to have him this week. Think it would still be worth it come playoff time if he takes it. Herm worries me.

 

[wraith5]

Is Rhodes a must start versus a suspect Green Bay defense?

Depends what other options you've got. But it certainly looks like a very good match-up for him.

 

[packersfan]

Is Rhodes a must start versus a suspect Green Bay defense?

Yes. The Packers' defense is horrible.As far as Addai, I am officially concerned this could be another Marvin Harrison situation where we sit here for weeks and weeks and weeks being told Addai is getting better and he's going to play soon but never does. Maybe I'm overreacting but having gone through the Colts' BS with Marvin, I'm expecting the worst from them. We've already seen Addai go from being OK and having a minor injury to missing at least one game. So the trend is not a good one.

 

[CrossEyed]

Is Rhodes used much in the passing game? Just wondering if he's worth adding in a ppr league.

 

[zamboni]

Is Rhodes used much in the passing game? Just wondering if he's worth adding in a ppr league.

Addai is terrific out of the backfield and hasn't been used in that role much, so I doubt that Rhodes will be used that much more so in that regard.

 

[packersfan]

New report from Adam Schefter via RotoWorld:

NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Joseph Addai will miss 2-4 weeks with a slightly torn hamstring.

We are getting the news from an RSS feed for Schefter's blog. The story is currently unavailable on NFL.com, but we'll update once it's confirmed. With Mike Hart out for the year, Dominic Rhodes would take over nearly all the carries for Indy.

Source: NFL.com

 

[packersfan]

Anybody have a recent list of hamstring injuries for RBs and how long those players were out? I'm curious to know if we might have to stick a fork in Addai. It's one thing to return within 2-4 weeks but will he be any good after that if the injury lingers?

 

[TommyGilmore]

Addai was probably ranked in the 12-15 range......I'd expect Rhodes to be in the 15-20. Definitely worth starting in 2-RB leagues, but not a better option than some of the other RBs that might be available on the WW (Sammy Morris, Michael Pittman, maybe Warrick Dunn).

 

[TommyGilmore]

Anybody have a recent list of hamstring injuries for RBs and how long those players were out?

Or more importantly, how well did they perform after they came back? Addai will be useless if he comes back in 4 weeks but only manages to perform at 75%.

 

[packersfan]

Anybody have a recent list of hamstring injuries for RBs and how long those players were out?

Or more importantly, how well did they perform after they came back? Addai will be useless if he comes back in 4 weeks but only manages to perform at 75%.

Agreed. The guy is very fragile to begin with so it's a very fair question to ask how good he'll be after coming back from serious injury.

 

[towney]

I think Rhodes will do Ok. I do feel he is a better option then Morris and Dunn w/ equal to Pittman (Pittman will share carries at some point).

 

[Oscar]

Addai was probably ranked in the 12-15 range......I'd expect Rhodes to be in the 15-20. Definitely worth starting in 2-RB leagues, but not a better option than some of the other RBs that might be available on the WW (Sammy Morris, Michael Pittman, maybe Warrick Dunn).

Really? In that offense, I think he is a better option than all 3 of the RBs you listed.

 

[GoBirds]

Damn, just offered LJ and Lenwhale for Addai/Rhodes hoping to have him this week. Think it would still be worth it come playoff time if he takes it. Herm worries me.

So I should pull this off the table immediately?

 

[Ballstein]

Addai was probably ranked in the 12-15 range......I'd expect Rhodes to be in the 15-20. Definitely worth starting in 2-RB leagues, but not a better option than some of the other RBs that might be available on the WW (Sammy Morris, Michael Pittman, maybe Warrick Dunn).

Really? In that offense, I think he is a better option than all 3 of the RBs you listed.

AGREE

 

[travdogg]

Wow, my flier I took on Rhodes last week looks great now.

Some RB's stuggle to recover from hamstring injuries and some are ok. I don't expect this to be a Rudi-like situation from last season where Addai will be useless from here on. He's too good and maybe more importantly Indy is too good.

Seems like a great time to try to buy-low for dynasty leaguers.

Rhodes should be a decent RB2 in the meantime, especially this week.

 

[Jello_Biafra]

With both Addai and Hart out will the Colts sign someone? Kenton Keith, perhaps?

 

[CrossEyed]

So which backup RB has the most value going forward, Rhodes, Buckhalter, or Hightower?

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Rhodes was very good with the Colts a few years back. He should do well this week against GB, but has some tougher matchups ahead.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

With both Addai and Hart out will the Colts sign someone? Kenton Keith, perhaps?

From CBS:

News: The Indianapolis Colts reinforced their depleted backfield Wednesday, promoting Chad Simpson from the practice squad and re-signing Clifton Dawson, who was cut in August. They waived defensive back Nick Graham to make room for Dawson on the roster.Analysis: None of these players are expected to produce significant stats on a regular basis to begin with. Keep them off of Fantasy rosters until further notice.

 

[BassNBrew]

Damn, just offered LJ and Lenwhale for Addai/Rhodes hoping to have him this week. Think it would still be worth it come playoff time if he takes it. Herm worries me.

So I should pull this off the table immediately?

Why don't you try the ###'t coach forum? This thread is about sharing information and insight that will hopefully help everyone in making up their own mind about the value of various players.Can Rhodes carry the entire load or is it likely that Indy will bring someone else in? I don't think there was much talent difference in Rhodes and Addai to begin with. I would expect the RBs to stay the same. I really liked what I saw out of Indy last week and think they may have fixed some things over the bye week.

 

[BassNBrew]

So which backup RB has the most value going forward, Rhodes, Buckhalter, or Hightower?

The one that scores the most fantasy points in your scoring system.

 

[packersfan]

Can Rhodes carry the entire load or is it likely that Indy will bring someone else in? I don't think there was much talent difference in Rhodes and Addai to begin with. I would expect the RBs to stay the same. I really liked what I saw out of Indy last week and think they may have fixed some things over the bye week.

I would expect Rhodes to get the majority of carries as long as he's the starter. I don't see any other RB getting significant carries.I do think it's worth asking whether we'll see the Colts go back to the split between Addai and Rhodes that we saw during their Super Bowl season. For one thing it obviously worked very well that season and for another, Addai's brittle nature may lead Dungy to want to reduce his touches to try and keep him healthy. The greater question with all of this is:What value does Addai have once he returns? I think we can rule him out as a RB1 since he hasn't been one this season when healthy. But can he be a RB2 or are we looking at a RB3 with RB2 upside some weeks if he's sharing time with Rhodes?

 

[CrossEyed]

So which backup RB has the most value going forward, Rhodes, Buckhalter, or Hightower?

The one that scores the most fantasy points in your scoring system.

Just looking for some general thoughts, particularly with Addai and Westy being banged up.

 

[zamboni]

Rhodes was very good with the Colts a few years back.

Actually, he wasn't that good a few years back, beyond the Super Bowl. His mediocrity is what allowed Addai to surpass him. That's not to say that he won't do well again, but his one and only good year was way back when he filled in admirably when Edge tore his ACL. I wouldn't rule out the other guys in case Rhodes falters.

 

[Otis]

Addai was probably ranked in the 12-15 range......I'd expect Rhodes to be in the 15-20. Definitely worth starting in 2-RB leagues, but not a better option than some of the other RBs that might be available on the WW (Sammy Morris, Michael Pittman, maybe Warrick Dunn).

Don't know how you can say this. All of these players are gambles. Sammy Morris is in a platoon, as is Dunn. Give me Rhodes in a HEARTBEAT over those guys. Pittman is the only guy I might start over Rhodes of that group.Bottom line -- Rhodes has every reason to go out there and tear it up, and the GB defense is pretty awful. He could be in for a tremendous day.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Rhodes was very good with the Colts a few years back.

Actually, he wasn't that good a few years back, beyond the Super Bowl. His mediocrity is what allowed Addai to surpass him. That's not to say that he won't do well again, but his one and only good year was way back when he filled in admirably when Edge tore his ACL. I wouldn't rule out the other guys in case Rhodes falters.

2006 was the only season where he got regular playing time, and he put up decent stats (3.4 YPC, 5 TDs on 187 carries). I would expect more of the same if he became a fulltime starter -- 90-100 total yards per game plus a TD every other week.

 

[trader jake]

With both Addai and Hart out will the Colts sign someone? Kenton Keith, perhaps?

Nope, he's playing in the CFL.As long as Rhodes stays healthy I don't believe the Colts will make any more moves (besides the two minor RB moves they made today).

 

[The Ref]

As a Rhodes Owner., let me play the devils advocate. I understand that they played the Ravens this week, but Rhodes only managed 73 yards on 25 carries. I'm not good at math, but that seems like a low avg per rush. Why so optimistic?

 

[beavers]

Addai was probably ranked in the 12-15 range......I'd expect Rhodes to be in the 15-20. Definitely worth starting in 2-RB leagues, but not a better option than some of the other RBs that might be available on the WW (Sammy Morris, Michael Pittman, maybe Warrick Dunn).

Don't know how you can say this. All of these players are gambles. Sammy Morris is in a platoon, as is Dunn. Give me Rhodes in a HEARTBEAT over those guys. Pittman is the only guy I might start over Rhodes of that group.Bottom line -- Rhodes has every reason to go out there and tear it up, and the GB defense is pretty awful. He could be in for a tremendous day.

If you own Rhodes but not Addai, the shark move here is wait a few for the news to settle in with the Addai owner and offer a package trade. 2 - 4 weeks is huge right now, especially at this time in the FF season. It's already week 7 and at the latest, he could be back week 11 or 12. And given how the Colts handled Marvin's knee injury last year, I wouldn't be surprised if it was longer than what they are saying.

 

[packersfan]

As a Rhodes Owner., let me play the devils advocate. I understand that they played the Ravens this week, but Rhodes only managed 73 yards on 25 carries. I'm not good at math, but that seems like a low avg per rush. Why so optimistic?

Ravens Run Defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Packers Run Defense

 

[The Ref]

As a Rhodes Owner., let me play the devils advocate. I understand that they played the Ravens this week, but Rhodes only managed 73 yards on 25 carries. I'm not good at math, but that seems like a low avg per rush. Why so optimistic?

Ravens Run Defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Packers Run Defense

Fair point - I'll not argue that point. I didn't see the game, how did Rhodes actualy look? Did he run into the line and fall down?

 

[blake]

Rhodes was very good with the Colts a few years back. He should do well this week against GB, but has some tougher matchups ahead.

exactly. i'm really hopeful he tears things apart against green bay, and maybe i can get lucky and flip him to another owner after this week.

 

[packersfan]

Can Rhodes carry the entire load or is it likely that Indy will bring someone else in? I don't think there was much talent difference in Rhodes and Addai to begin with. I would expect the RBs to stay the same. I really liked what I saw out of Indy last week and think they may have fixed some things over the bye week.

I would expect Rhodes to get the majority of carries as long as he's the starter. I don't see any other RB getting significant carries.I do think it's worth asking whether we'll see the Colts go back to the split between Addai and Rhodes that we saw during their Super Bowl season. For one thing it obviously worked very well that season and for another, Addai's brittle nature may lead Dungy to want to reduce his touches to try and keep him healthy. The greater question with all of this is:What value does Addai have once he returns? I think we can rule him out as a RB1 since he hasn't been one this season when healthy. But can he be a RB2 or are we looking at a RB3 with RB2 upside some weeks if he's sharing time with Rhodes?

Anybody with some thoughts on Addai's value the rest of the season should he return in the 2-4 week timetable?

 

[blackjack23]

Addai will still have some playoff value (plays CIN, DET, JAX). Thankfully I got Rhodes off waivers and he should be a decent fill in. Still he wont be the RB1 I was expecting out of my 1st round pick. Y didnt I pick Barber?

 

[shredhead]

Why don't you try the ###'t coach forum?

at the language filter. I guess you have to spell out the word "Assistant"

 

[travdogg]

Anybody with some thoughts on Addai's value the rest of the season should he return in the 2-4 week timetable?

I think if the Colts are to be believed, and Addai is back in 4 weeks, he'd be a high-end RB2 with RB1 upside. Especially when you factor in both their playoff schedule and the fact that for once they actually need to win those games to make the playoffs.Perhaps this year's Steven Jackson.

 

[raor]

As a Rhodes Owner., let me play the devils advocate. I understand that they played the Ravens this week, but Rhodes only managed 73 yards on 25 carries. I'm not good at math, but that seems like a low avg per rush. Why so optimistic?

Ravens Run Defense >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Packers Run Defense

Fair point - I'll not argue that point. I didn't see the game, how did Rhodes actualy look? Did he run into the line and fall down?

He looked very good at times, specifically on one 35-yard play where he broke 4 tackles. I would say he look as good as Addai at worst, and possibly significantly more explosive than Addai at best (this was Baltimore after all). Keep in mind, 10 carries came after the Colts were up 31-0 and running the clock out.

 

[Gatorman]

So if rhodes got hurt this week, who would be the starter...

(looking at this from a WCOFF perspective)

 

[Otis]

So if rhodes got hurt this week, who would be the starter...(looking at this from a WCOFF perspective)

Kenton Keith, or someone else from outside.

 

[gman74]

So which backup RB has the most value going forward, Rhodes, Buckhalter, or Hightower?

Threads that are asking for advice on how you should draft or manage your team belong in The Assistant Coach forum.

 

[BigRed]

Damn, just offered LJ and Lenwhale for Addai/Rhodes hoping to have him this week. Think it would still be worth it come playoff time if he takes it. Herm worries me.

So I should pull this off the table immediately?

So which backup RB has the most value going forward, Rhodes, Buckhalter, or Hightower?

I'll answer these questions if you rate my draft, TIA Anyway, Rhodes isn't getting "the majority" of the carries - he's pretty much getting ALL the carries. Do you really think Dawson or Simpson will be used unless really necessary?That said, expect very modest numbers and modest value mostly just in the hopes of a few short passes and PPR.

 

[blackjack23]

Rhodes is a good play this week vs GB. But then the next 3 weeks plays TEN, NE, & PIT. Then Addai is supposed to come back. We all know Addai wont be out only 2 weeks. Itll be at least 4 weeks and hopefully thats it.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

'd rather have the sure "Out" for a couple weeks than try to guess at gametime. (have Rhodes, too).

Not to mention that this week is the afternoon game and next week is Monday night, which are tougher for gametime decisions.

 

[zamboni]

Rhodes was very good with the Colts a few years back.

Actually, he wasn't that good a few years back, beyond the Super Bowl. His mediocrity is what allowed Addai to surpass him. That's not to say that he won't do well again, but his one and only good year was way back when he filled in admirably when Edge tore his ACL. I wouldn't rule out the other guys in case Rhodes falters.

2006 was the only season where he got regular playing time, and he put up decent stats (3.4 YPC, 5 TDs on 187 carries). I would expect more of the same if he became a fulltime starter -- 90-100 total yards per game plus a TD every other week.

The 3.4 YPC is likely what pushed him out of the starting role in favor of Addai - hardly decent, I would say. To be sure though, he'll likely still get the ball a ton even if he continues at that YPC pace.

 

[packersfan]

Is it me or does this quote from Dungy about Addai sound EXACTLY like the crap he was dishing out last year every week about Harrison?

"When we get to the end of the week, there might even be some thoughts to play him (Sunday), but we've got a lot of time left in this season," Dungy said.

He delivered this whole "He's not really that hurt and might play this week" garbage every week last year with Harrison. And every week, the Colts would dispute reports that Harrison was hurt worse than they were saying. They're doing the exact same thing now with Addai. I sure hope I'm wrong but the early signs with Addai's injury bear a striking resemblance to what transpired last year with Harrison.

Link

 

[blackjack23]

Is it me or does this quote from Dungy about Addai sound EXACTLY like the crap he was dishing out last year every week about Harrison?

"When we get to the end of the week, there might even be some thoughts to play him (Sunday), but we've got a lot of time left in this season," Dungy said.

He delivered this whole "He's not really that hurt and might play this week" garbage every week last year with Harrison. And every week, the Colts would dispute reports that Harrison was hurt worse than they were saying. They're doing the exact same thing now with Addai. I sure hope I'm wrong but the early signs with Addai's injury bear a striking resemblance to what transpired last year with Harrison.

Link

Yeah but a knee is a tricky injury. Especially on a 38 yr old. Theres so many things that can go wrong and swell up, etc. A hamstring. Is pretty simple. It either feels tight or it doesnt.

 

[travdogg]

Is it me or does this quote from Dungy about Addai sound EXACTLY like the crap he was dishing out last year every week about Harrison?

"When we get to the end of the week, there might even be some thoughts to play him (Sunday), but we've got a lot of time left in this season," Dungy said.

He delivered this whole "He's not really that hurt and might play this week" garbage every week last year with Harrison. And every week, the Colts would dispute reports that Harrison was hurt worse than they were saying. They're doing the exact same thing now with Addai. I sure hope I'm wrong but the early signs with Addai's injury bear a striking resemblance to what transpired last year with Harrison.

Link

I think you may be reading too much into it. That quote is similar, but the situation is completely different. If anything I'd lean the other way in that he may make it back in 2 weeks instead of 4. I remember hearing that Marvin was cleared to play something like 3 weeks after his injury but chose not to because he didn't trust his knee. I don't think Addai would make that same decision with his hamstring.

I see no reason why he won't be back by week 11 and an outside chance he is ready to go next week against the Titans.

He's an outstanding buy-low right now in my opinion. Hell, maybe using the sounds similar to Harrison last year angle might be a decent way to pry him from his current owners.