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JStewart to visit specialist (1 Viewer)

Birdie048

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Suprised this was not already posted here. It might just be precautionary or confidence, but it's not a good start for J Stewart's NFL experience.



I don't own either, but I figured with many a draft coming up this weekend, the more info that was shared, the better.

http://www.carolinagrowl.com/Read.aspx?Story=678

COLUMN: To be productive, Stewart must have confidence in repaired toe

Written by Steve Reed

8/15/2008 10:54:05 AM

PHILADELPHIA – Jonathan Stewart is still learning to trust his surgically repaired big right toe.

Trust that it’s truly fixed. Trust that he won’t cause any further damage to it by playing running back this season for the Carolina Panthers.

A player’s mindset when it comes to dealing with an injury can be the difference between a productive season and a lost one. Sometimes it is as much mental as it is physical. This past week a team official told me of Stewart, “Sometimes the most important muscle a football player has is between his ears.”

In other words, if Stewart doesn’t feel like the toe is completely healed, the obvious concern is he might run tentatively, translating into a lack of production on the field.

When he returned to the football field three weeks ago, Stewart felt a regular discomfort in the surgically repaired right toe, raising questions in his own mind about whether or not this is normal.

The Panthers, sensing the rookie’s mind was working overtime worrying about his big toe rather than things like, say, the big playbook, decided to send Stewart to meet with team orthopedist Robert Anderson, who performed the surgery back in March, for reassurance.

Basically the good doctor assured Stewart that he can’t cause any more damage to the toe and that what he’s feeling is a build up of scar tissue. As time goes on and the more he plays, the scar tissue will loosen up and the toe will begin to feel normal.

In other words, the message was this: Relax. It’s not going to get any worse. Stop fretting about it.

Stewart admits he was doing just that.

“Once I got the information I was fine,” Stewart said after Thursday night’s game against Philadelphia.

“When I met with the doctor, they explained everything -- what I can expect to do,” Stewart said. “That was good for me because I could go on with my day.”

And the season.

The meeting with Anderson came days after Stewart told the media last week that the toe still was preventing him from making all of his cuts and that he lacked the explosiveness he had back at the University of Oregon, even though at times he’s looked real very fast in training camp.

Stewart got his first carries as a professional against the Eagles but didn’t look very explosive. He was held to 3 yards on four carries.

Don’t read too much into that.

There were a number of mitigating factors involved, not the least of which is Carolina’s second-team offensive line struggling to open holes. There’s also the fact that quarterback Matt Moore had nobody to throw to because all of the good receivers are hurt and the sloppy field conditions, which meant the Eagles were selling out on the run.

After the game Stewart described the toe as “sore,” but not much different than after a practice.

“It’s something I will probably have to deal with for the rest of the season,” Stewart said. “I’m pretty sure it’s going to hang around for a little bit.”

The Panthers, of course, knew all about Stewart’s injury coming out of college. Actually, they probably knew more than anyone else since their doctor performed the surgery. They trust he will still be an impact player this year.

I asked him if he now trusts the toe, if he truly believes it will hold up.

His answer: “When I’m on the field I don’t really think about it. So it’s not really an issue.”

I’m not sure I completely believe that – not yet anyway -- but Stewart seems more confident than he did a week ago. Still, I think somewhere in the back of his mind he’ll continue thinking about it until the pain subsides.

I wouldn’t count Stewart out this season by any means.

But you have to wonder just how effective he’ll be until he truly feels confident and comfortable with his toe.

The bottom line is this: If Stewart is going to be player the Panthers hope he can be – no, make that the player they need him to be – then he’s going to have to trust Anderson’s advice and ignore the toe.

Only then can he perform up to expectations.

The good news is DeAngelo Williams and Nick Goings are performing at a high level, so the Panthers have the option of bringing Stewart along slowly.

Given they drafted him 13th overall in the NFL draft I highly doubt that is what they want to do. When the regular season arrives, they will be eager for him to produce, especially with their best offensive playmaker Steve Smith out the first two games.

In his mind, Stewart will be ready to put his best toe, er rather, foot forward.
Birdie, do not change this again.

J

 
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Don't read into this...this is a ploy by Birdie, so I will not draft him in the 2nd round of our keeper draft in less than 24 hours...

Truthfully, this screams "DWill" to me...I know Stewart was drafted in the first, but so was Duckett and he never was able to get the starting role. I believe Stewart will be part of a thunder/lightning for the next couple of years, but the questions is, will he be more like Dayne or more like Marion Barber III?

 
So his surgically repaired toe is absolutely fine but he needs to visit a shrink to get his mind back in the game?

 
Don't read into this...this is a ploy by Birdie, so I will not draft him in the 2nd round of our keeper draft in less than 24 hours...

Truthfully, this screams "DWill" to me...I know Stewart was drafted in the first, but so was Duckett and he never was able to get the starting role. I believe Stewart will be part of a thunder/lightning for the next couple of years, but the questions is, will he be more like Dayne or more like Marion Barber III?
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :goodposting: ..... Hey, I tried to trade DeA Will prior to the declaration deadline. My opinion is that DeAngelo will get the lion's share of the touches for the early part of the season (75%) until about week 5 or so. Then, more of a 50/50 split as J Stewart adapts to the task and situation.

It appears to be a confidence issue to me. He needs to get more time on the field in real situations and exposure where he learns. I don't think this is a long term issue with J Stewart. I believe he will still be a solid RB.

 
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :wub: .....
Actually, you're not. Your topic reads "JStewart to visit specialist", as if it hasn't happened yet, suggesting strongly that there is or may still be a problem with the toe. In reality, the visit already occurred and everything checked out ok. :blackdot:
 
Hmm. Sounds like it will be an issue all year really. I'm still high on this guy but have been reading that big thread about DWill as well so not sure what to think. What if he gets that piggy stomped on won't that jack him up?

 
Hmm. Sounds like it will be an issue all year really. I'm still high on this guy but have been reading that big thread about DWill as well so not sure what to think. What if he gets that piggy stomped on won't that jack him up?
It sounds to me like this is comparable to bruised ribs - it's all a matter of what he can take in terms of pain/discomfort. It doesn't at all affect his athletic ability beyond that.
 
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :yes: .....
Actually, you're not. Your topic reads "JStewart to visit specialist", as if it hasn't happened yet, suggesting strongly that there is or may still be a problem with the toe. In reality, the visit already occurred and everything checked out ok. :goodposting:
the title is misleading. here is a bit from an article today in the charlotte paper:
Stewart said he’s still experiencing pain in his right big toe and wouldn’t be surprised if the discomfort lasts all season. However, he said team doctors have explained that the pain is to be expected because of scar tissue following his March 12 surgery and that he’s not further harming the toe by practicing and playing. “When I’m on the field, I don’t really think about it, just because of the adrenaline rush,” he said. “So that’s not really an issue.”
 
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :yes: .....
Actually, you're not. Your topic reads "JStewart to visit specialist", as if it hasn't happened yet, suggesting strongly that there is or may still be a problem with the toe. In reality, the visit already occurred and everything checked out ok. :goodposting:
If Tatum Bell is right on this, maybe it's time Birdie flys away for a little vacation. I also noticed he said he doesn't own D. Willy and someone pulled up where he in fact does own him. Get junk like this outta the pool.
 
JStewart to visit specialist, Raising DeA Will value
Any word on JDel's value impact? Will LaToe or DeCorBir be brought in to spell? More Def press. on MuMu? Less targets for JeKing. Def. more time on the field for Ma'akeKe and Na'il Di of course.
 
Don't read into this...this is a ploy by Birdie, so I will not draft him in the 2nd round of our keeper draft in less than 24 hours...Truthfully, this screams "DWill" to me...I know Stewart was drafted in the first, but so was Duckett and he never was able to get the starting role. I believe Stewart will be part of a thunder/lightning for the next couple of years, but the questions is, will he be more like Dayne or more like Marion Barber III?
Stewart is faster than every RB you named in your post. He's thunder AND lightning. He's nothing like Ron Dayne or T.J. Duckett. He's also always injured.
 
Chachi said:
Tatum Bell said:
Birdie048 said:
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :rolleyes: .....
Actually, you're not. Your topic reads "JStewart to visit specialist", as if it hasn't happened yet, suggesting strongly that there is or may still be a problem with the toe. In reality, the visit already occurred and everything checked out ok. :goodposting:
If Tatum Bell is right on this, maybe it's time Birdie flys away for a little vacation. I also noticed he said he doesn't own D. Willy and someone pulled up where he in fact does own him. Get junk like this outta the pool.
While it appears there is little concern with the toe, it appears to be a mental concern on his ability to use it fully. This is a fact that needs attention. Another fact is that I HAD owned him and tried to trade him was prior to our cut date. I understand that this news is not conclusive regarding J Stew but I see it as promising report for DeA Will for the early part of the season. It adds to his value today. Tomorrow is a whole new story.Since the heading was already edited, I added the "mental" issue just to add seasoning to the sauce some throw around here. It's a preseason situation that has significant potential in the fantasy value of whoever wins the lions share of carries in the Panters running game. It's worth sharing. You have the choice of ignoring it or weighing the article for what it is worth - information. And information is "a key" to winning.ETA: sorry if I am re-opening a dead issue. Took a little offense to the remarks. I should just ignore the ignorant.
 
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GDogg said:
Sweet Love said:
Don't read into this...this is a ploy by Birdie, so I will not draft him in the 2nd round of our keeper draft in less than 24 hours...Truthfully, this screams "DWill" to me...I know Stewart was drafted in the first, but so was Duckett and he never was able to get the starting role. I believe Stewart will be part of a thunder/lightning for the next couple of years, but the questions is, will he be more like Dayne or more like Marion Barber III?
Stewart is faster than every RB you named in your post. He's thunder AND lightning. He's nothing like Ron Dayne or T.J. Duckett. He's also always injured.
Duckett ran a 4.45 at the combine, and was basically considered a "freak" at the time (37" vert, 9'11" broad etc.). Not that it matters, but just for the record, in terms of measurables at least, Duckett was AT LEAST on par with Stewart. It hasn't been speed that has prevented Duckett from succeeding (I'm not sure WHAT it has been to be honest, I still feel like the guy could have been good).
 
Chachi said:
Tatum Bell said:
Birdie048 said:
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :rolleyes: .....
Actually, you're not. Your topic reads "JStewart to visit specialist", as if it hasn't happened yet, suggesting strongly that there is or may still be a problem with the toe. In reality, the visit already occurred and everything checked out ok. :thumbup:
If Tatum Bell is right on this, maybe it's time Birdie flys away for a little vacation. I also noticed he said he doesn't own D. Willy and someone pulled up where he in fact does own him. Get junk like this outta the pool.
While it appears there is little concern with the toe, it appears to be a mental concern on his ability to use it fully. This is a fact that needs attention. Another fact is that I HAD owned him and tried to trade him was prior to our cut date. I understand that this news is not conclusive regarding J Stew but I see it as promising report for DeA Will for the early part of the season. It adds to his value today. Tomorrow is a whole new story.Since the heading was already edited, I added the "mental" issue just to add seasoning to the sauce some throw around here. It's a preseason situation that has significant potential in the fantasy value of whoever wins the lions share of carries in the Panters running game. It's worth sharing. You have the choice of ignoring it or weighing the article for what it is worth - information. And information is "a key" to winning.ETA: sorry if I am re-opening a dead issue. Took a little offense to the remarks. I should just ignore the ignorant.
I'd rather not have to read a dramatic, self-serving (for you) headline, and then have to read a full article to determine that you are in fact ignorant. How about you just post what the article says instead of, I don't know, the opposite. :rolleyes: :confused:
 
I hope the guy pick 1.02 in my keeper league is reading this NEWS and takes Mendenhall so I can take Stewart at 1.03

 
I hope the guy pick 1.02 in my keeper league is reading this NEWS and takes Mendenhall so I can take Stewart at 1.03
I wouldnt do that. According to "some" on this board he will just be sitting behind deangelo for a couple of years. :popcorn:
 
Chachi said:
Tatum Bell said:
Birdie048 said:
I am just reporting exactly what was in the news :rolleyes: .....
Actually, you're not. Your topic reads "JStewart to visit specialist", as if it hasn't happened yet, suggesting strongly that there is or may still be a problem with the toe. In reality, the visit already occurred and everything checked out ok. :popcorn:
If Tatum Bell is right on this, maybe it's time Birdie flys away for a little vacation. I also noticed he said he doesn't own D. Willy and someone pulled up where he in fact does own him. Get junk like this outta the pool.
While it appears there is little concern with the toe, it appears to be a mental concern on his ability to use it fully. This is a fact that needs attention. Another fact is that I HAD owned him and tried to trade him was prior to our cut date. I understand that this news is not conclusive regarding J Stew but I see it as promising report for DeA Will for the early part of the season. It adds to his value today. Tomorrow is a whole new story.Since the heading was already edited, I added the "mental" issue just to add seasoning to the sauce some throw around here. It's a preseason situation that has significant potential in the fantasy value of whoever wins the lions share of carries in the Panters running game. It's worth sharing. You have the choice of ignoring it or weighing the article for what it is worth - information. And information is "a key" to winning.ETA: sorry if I am re-opening a dead issue. Took a little offense to the remarks. I should just ignore the ignorant.
I'd rather not have to read a dramatic, self-serving (for you) headline, and then have to read a full article to determine that you are in fact ignorant. How about you just post what the article says instead of, I don't know, the opposite. :rolleyes: :lmao:
Pretty much sums up my thoughts too, it really was a waste of time reading the whole article to find out it was in fact a self serving piece for the OP. I'd rather not read juicy headlines to find out the opposite is what is going on and the OP has an agenda, I come here for information, not misinformation. :wall:
 
Calm down guys. Unlike a lot of nonsense that goes on in the SP, this guy actually posted an article. This is in stark contrast to the nonsense we get from some other posters around here. Sure, the title was a bit off - but Stewart did, in fact, visit a specialist because he was concerned about pain in his toe.

Deep breath. And next time, you'll know to ignore birdie, and hopefully he'll find a more appropriate title for his threads.

 
I hope the guy pick 1.02 in my keeper league is reading this NEWS and takes Mendenhall so I can take Stewart at 1.03
I took Mendhenall at 1.02 over Stewart in two dynasty leagues. I traded for both picks. The downside is that I took Stewart at 1.03 in one of those leagues, where I traded for that pick also. :goodposting: . Then I traded him, Manningham, and Engram for Ray Rice and Cotchery. and his 2009 1st rd rookie pick.Even though I like Mendenhall a lot, I'm starting to wonder whether Chris Johnson is the play at 1.02, or even Ray Rice.There's no way anyone in their right mind should ignore the toe issue, regardless as to what the doctors say. Mental or not, it's a factor. IMO toe injuries are worse than knee injuries, and like most of you like to say, "it's not even close".
 
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Calm down guys. Unlike a lot of nonsense that goes on in the SP, this guy actually posted an article. This is in stark contrast to the nonsense we get from some other posters around here. Sure, the title was a bit off - but Stewart did, in fact, visit a specialist because he was concerned about pain in his toe.
A "bit off"? It was 180 degrees off. Daffy Duck has better aim. Judge for yourself:Title:

JStewart to visit specialist, [something about an advantage to DWill, before birdie edited it]
A passage from the article in his own original post:
The Panthers, sensing the rookie’s mind was working overtime worrying about his big toe rather than things like, say, the big playbook, decided to send Stewart to meet with team orthopedist Robert Anderson, who performed the surgery back in March, for reassurance.

Basically the good doctor assured Stewart that he can’t cause any more damage to the toe and that what he’s feeling is a build up of scar tissue. As time goes on and the more he plays, the scar tissue will loosen up and the toe will begin to feel normal.

In other words, the message was this: Relax. It’s not going to get any worse. Stop fretting about it.
The more you defend him, the more he makes you look like a ridiculous dupe. People get banned around here for stuff like this.
 
The more you defend him, the more he makes you look like a ridiculous dupe.
Totally wrong. The article was misleading with the way the guy posted it. I fixed it. End of problem. If you disagree with the guy and the guy defending him, fine. Disagree. But do not get down to the level of what you're doing above.TIA.J
 
Stewart said his toe was sore after the game (in limited action, no less). I believe him, & I don't like where this is going for the big rookie. Hard to say how much the toe is affecting his play, but common sense dictates he's not 100% (or close to it). I hate to sound overdramatic, but Stewart could be relegated to backup duty pretty much the whole season (especially if DWill excels in his new role as starter).

 
Stewart said his toe was sore after the game (in limited action, no less). I believe him, & I don't like where this is going for the big rookie. Hard to say how much the toe is affecting his play, but common sense dictates he's not 100% (or close to it). I hate to sound overdramatic, but Stewart could be relegated to backup duty pretty much the whole season (especially if DWill excels in his new role as starter).
I can't imagine Stewart's toe is bothering more than it did during the second half of last year or during the combine. He has shown the ability to play very well with the toe issue before so I fully the expect the toe not to be an issue this year. However, I was concerned that Carolina didn't put him in during the first half with the first string offense. I expected to see Williams and Stewart mixed in together. If that doesn't happen in the next game I think Stewart's chances of handling the bulk of the carries are slim right away. Stewart should be the main guy in Carolina by week 4 IMO.
 
Don said:
I can't imagine Stewart's toe is bothering more than it did during the second half of last year or during the combine.
Seriously? You realize he had surgery, right? You can't imagine that the procedure might not have gone as smoothly as advertised? Maybe it is psychological. Or maybe there's a lingering issue from the operation. It wouldn't be the first time a player had to go back under the knife to readdress a problem.
Don said:
He has shown the ability to play very well with the toe issue before so I fully the expect the toe not to be an issue this year. However, I was concerned that Carolina didn't put him in during the first half with the first string offense. I expected to see Williams and Stewart mixed in together. If that doesn't happen in the next game I think Stewart's chances of handling the bulk of the carries are slim right away. Stewart should be the main guy in Carolina by week 4 IMO.
Again, old news. Maybe he fights through whatever is ailing him now. Maybe he adjusts mentally with respect to scar tissue. Maybe he overtakes Williams.But that's too many maybes for me.

 
Hmm. Sounds like it will be an issue all year really. I'm still high on this guy but have been reading that big thread about DWill as well so not sure what to think. What if he gets that piggy stomped on won't that jack him up?
It sounds to me like this is comparable to bruised ribs - it's all a matter of what he can take in terms of pain/discomfort. It doesn't at all affect his athletic ability beyond that.
Wow, Tater, you think this gives DWill a shot at the starting job?
 
Hmm. Sounds like it will be an issue all year really. I'm still high on this guy but have been reading that big thread about DWill as well so not sure what to think. What if he gets that piggy stomped on won't that jack him up?
It sounds to me like this is comparable to bruised ribs - it's all a matter of what he can take in terms of pain/discomfort. It doesn't at all affect his athletic ability beyond that.
Wow, Tater, you think this gives DWill a shot at the starting job?
There's no doubt in my mind that DeAngelo Williams will be the starter to start the season, and it's possible he does well and keeps Stewart on the bench most of the time too. He may not, but then again, he just might. If I was a Stewart owner banking on him this year I would be worried. Throw in the toe, and I would be double worried.
 

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