Julius Jones Update Thread (2 Viewers)

[RabidRabbit]

Bam, that's what I was looking for when I started this post. I'm glad I took stabs at Ty Thompson and A-Train (he really does not deserve a neat little nick-name, that P.O.S.) .I'm not a Julius Jones owner, BUT...I was a Deuce owner and to possibly get the Dallas RB for one week (or more -- definitely more if it is indeed a high ankle sprain), is a nice reprieve from Sunday's crappy news on McAllister. I hate these big time players going down to injury. Makes you want to come out fighting again!! Just goes to show you -- when a running back leaves the game and does not return, you arn well better hit the "pick-up" button on your WW claim feature, b/c these guys (the player, the coach, the team, in this case the Owner -- Jerry Jones) always, ALWAYS Down Play the injury or status at the very beginning of the week. Still I find it surprising all of the sites that report breaking fantasy news have not updated the situation with the MRI. Again, the longer it takes for the MRI result to become fully disclosed, the more I think they are wanting to delay releasing the info. Tuna wants to lie in the weeds with this news and not give his old team any jump on preparation. Smart move in real life, frustrating fantasy wise.

 

[DonnyT33]

Cowboys | Jones Injury Update

Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:32:28 -0700

Dallas Cowboys RB Julius Jones (ankle) suffered a left ankle injury in Week 5 and did not return. Jones underwent X-rays, which were negative, and said he could have returned to the game. Head coach Bill Parcells is uncertain whether Jones will practice Wednesday, Oct. 12.

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Please dont put links to anything from KFFL, that site is a running joke IMO. I would not click on a link to that site if my life depended on it.

 

[Brett Weer]

Bam, that's what I was looking for when I started this post.

I'm glad I took stabs at Ty Thompson and A-Train (he really does not deserve a neat little nick-name, that P.O.S.) .

I'm not a Julius Jones owner, BUT...

I was a Deuce owner and to possibly get the Dallas RB for one week (or more -- definitely more if it is indeed a high ankle sprain), is a nice reprieve from Sunday's crappy news on McAllister. I hate these big time players going down to injury.

Makes you want to come out fighting again!!

Just goes to show you -- when a running back leaves the game and does not return, you arn well better hit the "pick-up" button on your WW claim feature, b/c these guys (the player, the coach, the team, in this case the Owner -- Jerry Jones) always, ALWAYS Down Play the injury or status at the very beginning of the week.

Still I find it surprising all of the sites that report breaking fantasy news have not updated the situation with the MRI. Again, the longer it takes for the MRI result to become fully disclosed, the more I think they are wanting to delay releasing the info. Tuna wants to lie in the weeds with this news and not give his old team any jump on preparation. Smart move in real life, frustrating fantasy wise.

Too bad I'm a Duece and JJ owner

 

[RabidRabbit]

Too bad I'm a Duece and JJ owner

Funny, bad stuff for your team.

I could have been on draft day, but instead of Julius, I chose Kevin Jones :( But that may be okay afterall.

Yahoo!'s NFL News reporting listed FanBall's report which comments on the team website... News already given to us above.

"News

The Cowboys believe running back Julius Jones will be able to play through the sprained left ankle he suffered last week, but he will likely be listed as questionable on the injury report, reports the team's website. "I think he'll play, we'll see," owner Jerry Jones said to the site. "From everything I've heard today, he's got a good chance to play."

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We'll know more about Jones' condition after Wednesday's practice, but we'd hate to see him be unable to play against the Giants, a team the Cowboys ran over for at least 150 yards in both games last season."

THIS IS DEFINITELY A SITUATION WHERE JULIUS JONES IS OUT WEEK 6. That is my gut reaction to this news and Jerry Jones quote. Isn't this how the Thomas Jones and Deuce and a whole host of other injuries are first reported. Of course, I guess it could be a Big Ben type of deal too -- dread and fear the worst and then say he may start week 6 and nto miss a beat.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I still think Anthony Thomas will see a lot of carries should Jones not be able to go.

???Thomas wasn't even active last week, why wouldn't it be Thompson?

Yeah he was, he played in last week's game. He was in on a couple key plays. One where the pass bounced off his shoulder pad and another where on 3rd and short, there was a play action fake to Thomas on 4th and short and they scored a TD. Seriously, he was in. He's not the backup though.

 

[TheFanatic]

I still think Anthony Thomas will see a lot of carries should Jones not be able to go.

???Thomas wasn't even active last week, why wouldn't it be Thompson?

Yeah he was, he played in last week's game. He was in on a couple key plays. One where the pass bounced off his shoulder pad and another where on 3rd and short, there was a play action fake to Thomas on 4th and short and they scored a TD. Seriously, he was in. He's not the backup though.

So, Cowboy, who do you see being the backup in Big D and this being the starter week 6 should JJ be a no go?

 

[Keys Myaths]

I still think Anthony Thomas will see a lot of carries should Jones not be able to go.

???Thomas wasn't even active last week, why wouldn't it be Thompson?

Yeah he was, he played in last week's game. He was in on a couple key plays. One where the pass bounced off his shoulder pad and another where on 3rd and short, there was a play action fake to Thomas on 4th and short and they scored a TD. Seriously, he was in. He's not the backup though.

So, Cowboy, who do you see being the backup in Big D and this being the starter week 6 should JJ be a no go?

2 hours until waiver time.I'm still hesitant to use my wire pick (I'm 2nd in line, after the Deuce owner, who is currently second, picks up A. Smith). So, we're going to wait the wire out, and see if Thompson's available.

That is, unless we can get more info...

 

[Blue_Devil_31]

I still think Anthony Thomas will see a lot of carries should Jones not be able to go.

???Thomas wasn't even active last week, why wouldn't it be Thompson?

Yeah he was, he played in last week's game. He was in on a couple key plays. One where the pass bounced off his shoulder pad and another where on 3rd and short, there was a play action fake to Thomas on 4th and short and they scored a TD. Seriously, he was in. He's not the backup though.

So, Cowboy, who do you see being the backup in Big D and this being the starter week 6 should JJ be a no go?

2 hours until waiver time.I'm still hesitant to use my wire pick (I'm 2nd in line, after the Deuce owner, who is currently second, picks up A. Smith). So, we're going to wait the wire out, and see if Thompson's available.

That is, unless we can get more info...

ugh. similar situation. except i am the deuce owner, but have 8th selection on waivers (at 2-3?). i need someone!debating between a.smith, t.thompson, perry, stecker, a.thomas. kinda thinking that order right now. ppr league. also have westy on bye, deuce done, t.jones prolly done for 1 week or more, and m.moore. who wouldve thought i'd be scraping for someone to pair with moore this week. sadly, only have a 14-man roster, so cant drop too many. i might be able to get 3 of those rbs, but who could i drop?

this is not my year in any league or any pool or anything.

college hoops starts in a month and a half. :(

 

[LordHusker]

This is from the Dallas Morning News:"Cowboys running back Julius Jones left the club's Valley Ranch training complex Tuesday afternoon wearing a walking boot on his left leg to protect his sprained ankle, a source said."Not a good sign for this weekend ...

 

[Keys Myaths]

This is from the Dallas Morning News:

"Cowboys running back Julius Jones left the club's Valley Ranch training complex Tuesday afternoon wearing a walking boot on his left leg to protect his sprained ankle, a source said."

Not a good sign for this weekend ...

Good thing I got lucky and got Thompson in both my leagues without a WW pickup.There is a point to this post: If you're having bye-week problems, pick up Thompson. He's got a fantastic matchup in Week 6, and Dallas should run all over the Giants.

 

[tchalyjr]

The only person to run all over the Giants this season was LT.......so.......I bet the Giants hold whoever is the starter to under 100yds.......its the pass D that sucks....I'm sure even Peerless Price will get a TD and he'll be inactive.......

 

[Keys Myaths]

The only person to run all over the Giants this season was LT.......so.......I bet the Giants hold whoever is the starter to under 100yds.......its the pass D that sucks....I'm sure even Peerless Price will get a TD and he'll be inactive.......

That's true...but it's misleading.Week 1, they destroyed Arizona. Arizona can't run at all to begin with, and during the blowout, Arizona was forced to throw all over the place.

Week 2, they got up really early on NO, and won by 20+. See Week 1.

Week 3, LT went crazy.

Week 4, got up really early on St. Louis. Still, Jackson went 17/77/1. Pretty good day.

 

[Aussie Cowboy]

Cowboys' Jones might miss game

Source: Running back is wearing walking boot to protect injured ankle

01:54 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 12, 2005

By JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR / The Dallas Morning News

IRVING – Running back Julius Jones was wearing a walking boot on his left leg Tuesday and the Cowboys are preparing as if he will not play Sunday, a source said.

Jones missed the second half of the Cowboys' 33-10 win over Philadelphia because of a high ankle sprain.

If Jones can't play in the important NFC East game against the New York Giants at Texas Stadium, the Cowboys could start rookie free agent Tyson Thompson, an Irving High School graduate, or veteran Anthony Thomas.

Thompson carried a career-high 20 times for 75 yards against the Eagles, but he gave Cowboys coaches some tense moments when he had two apparent fumbles on one fourth-quarter drive overturned by instant replay.

Thomas, a five-year veteran, has two 1,000-yard seasons to his credit, but he has been deactivated twice this season because he doesn't play special teams. He had four carries for 5 yards against the Eagles.

Early Tuesday afternoon, owner Jerry Jones said he thought Jones would play against the Giants.

"He's a quick healer," Jerry Jones said. "He's fast and young, and I think there's a good chance he'll play.

"It's not anything like the high ankle sprains some of the players in training camp had that kept them out for a while."

Jones, who has 407 yards rushing and a 3.6-yard average this season, has been the focal point of the offense after averaging 114.7 yards in eight starts last season. Defensive coordinators have made him the focus of their game plans, one reason he hasn't produced a 100-yard game.

Jones seemed on his way to ending that streak against the Eagles with 72 yards on 16 carries in the first half, including a 25-yard run, his longest of the season. He injured his ankle while being tackled by linebacker Mark Simoneau for no gain and limped off the field with 18 seconds left in the half. He then limped to the locker room for X-rays.

Jerry Jones said the second-year running back has not had an MRI exam.

The Cowboys signed Thomas in the off-season in case of just such an injury. After all, Julius Jones missed part of training camp last year with a rib cartilage injury and missed seven games with a broken shoulder blade.

"Thomas is a valuable person to have, especially when you see we're a little up in the air with Julius," Jerry Jones said. "You can say what you want, but it's important to have depth.

"He was brought in here to have a specific role in the offense, but that hasn't happened. I know it's frustrating, but I've tried to impress upon him that we're going to need him before the end of the season."

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[gman8343]

From AOL last night:10/11/05 09:26 PMTHE NEWSThe Cowboys believe running back Julius Jones will be able to play through the sprained left ankle he suffered last week, but he will likely be listed as questionable on the injury report, reports the team's website. "I think he'll play, we'll see," owner Jerry Jones said to the site. "From everything I've heard today, he's got a good chance to play."Our ViewWe'll know more about Jones' condition after Wednesday's practice, but we'd hate to see him be unable to play against the Giants, a team the Cowboys ran over for at least 150 yards in both games last season.

 

[Silver & Black]

Here's the latest from this morning's Dallas Morning News. Looks like he is OK, and DID NOT have a MRI. He may miss the week though, but it looks good after that though. Here's the article.Cowboys' Jones might miss game Source: Running back is wearing walking boot to protect injured ankle01:54 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 12, 2005 By JEAN-JACQUES TAYLOR / The Dallas Morning News IRVING – Running back Julius Jones was wearing a walking boot on his left leg Tuesday and the Cowboys are preparing as if he will not play Sunday, a source said. Jones missed the second half of the Cowboys' 33-10 win over Philadelphia because of a high ankle sprain. If Jones can't play in the important NFC East game against the New York Giants at Texas Stadium, the Cowboys could start rookie free agent Tyson Thompson, an Irving High School graduate, or veteran Anthony Thomas. Thompson carried a career-high 20 times for 75 yards against the Eagles, but he gave Cowboys coaches some tense moments when he had two apparent fumbles on one fourth-quarter drive overturned by instant replay. Thomas, a five-year veteran, has two 1,000-yard seasons to his credit, but he has been deactivated twice this season because he doesn't play special teams. He had four carries for 5 yards against the Eagles. Early Tuesday afternoon, owner Jerry Jones said he thought Jones would play against the Giants. "He's a quick healer," Jerry Jones said. "He's fast and young, and I think there's a good chance he'll play. "It's not anything like the high ankle sprains some of the players in training camp had that kept them out for a while." Jones, who has 407 yards rushing and a 3.6-yard average this season, has been the focal point of the offense after averaging 114.7 yards in eight starts last season. Defensive coordinators have made him the focus of their game plans, one reason he hasn't produced a 100-yard game. Jones seemed on his way to ending that streak against the Eagles with 72 yards on 16 carries in the first half, including a 25-yard run, his longest of the season. He injured his ankle while being tackled by linebacker Mark Simoneau for no gain and limped off the field with 18 seconds left in the half. He then limped to the locker room for X-rays. Jerry Jones said the second-year running back has not had an MRI exam. The Cowboys signed Thomas in the off-season in case of just such an injury. After all, Julius Jones missed part of training camp last year with a rib cartilage injury and missed seven games with a broken shoulder blade. "Thomas is a valuable person to have, especially when you see we're a little up in the air with Julius," Jerry Jones said. "You can say what you want, but it's important to have depth. "He was brought in here to have a specific role in the offense, but that hasn't happened. I know it's frustrating, but I've tried to impress upon him that we're going to need him before the end of the season."

 

[Ridgelake]

There have been questions about what happens if JJ can't play. I'll bump this post from earlier for those too lazy to read the whole thread....

The only thing that Atrain brings to the table over Thompson and Barber is the ability to block.

IF JJ can't go, all three of them would be active. I strongly suspect that Thompson would get the majority of the carries. The Philly game says a lot about how Parcells compares Thompson and Thomas.

But since Thompson is also their kick returner, Parcells would limit his offensive plays a bit. He would do that in 1 of 2 ways. Play Atrain or Barber for a handful of series. Or make Barber the 3rd down back. Parcells has done both things at various times this season. My guess is that Barber would be the third down guy. If they start getting blitzed a lot and the rookies don't do their job blocking, you will see more of Atrain. But since the Giants aren't the heaviest blitzing team, and Dallas has really hurt defenses this year when they have blitzed, I don't think you will see a big need for blocking next week.

So that said, ASSUMING JJ is out, I'd expect Thompson to get the majority of the carries, Barber to be the third down guy, and Atrain to maybe get a series or two.

 

[agent 86]

I wonder why JJ never had an MRI? One would think that everyone would want to know everything. There's been a strong trend the last few weeks of coaches leaving everybody in the dark until Sunday a.m. (Vick last week for example). I have a feeling we won't know if he's playing until then. The imprtant thing for Jones owners is to get the right WW guy and hope you don't need him. If that's Thompson, that would be the guy to get. I just can't get past the fact that Tuna has won with veteran guys like Andersen before and A-Train just seems more suited to be a "Parcells-type" RB IMHO.

 

[Sam Quentin]

I wonder why JJ never had an MRI? One would think that everyone would want to know everything.

There's been a strong trend the last few weeks of coaches leaving everybody in the dark until Sunday a.m. (Vick last week for example). I have a feeling we won't know if he's playing until then. The imprtant thing for Jones owners is to get the right WW guy and hope you don't need him. If that's Thompson, that would be the guy to get. I just can't get past the fact that Tuna has won with veteran guys like Andersen before and A-Train just seems more suited to be a "Parcells-type" RB IMHO.

I agreeI wonder if A-Train is the shark move, or an example of out-smarting yourself.

 

[Stompin' Tom Connors]

Despite the fact that he is one of the hotter WW pickups of the week, I'm torn about Thompson, for a variety of reasons.On one hand, he seems to be a back who both has talent and has a niche in the system. I remember seeing him in the Raider/Dallas game in Week 4 -- he had 32 yards off of 7 carries and 8 yards off of 1 reception -- not spectacular by any means, but it was interesting that he was the back off the bench that had the most carries.And this has played through the entire season -- he is 31/114 to A-Trains 9/14 and Barber's 2/1. Regardless that the less-than-stellar-overall A-Train is on the roster, Thompson seems to have the tools and versatility to step up and make an impact.But on the other hand, with JJ gone, I can see A-Train being the primary back, with Thompson retaining his role as change-of-pace / 3rd down receiver. Both NFL.com and Dallas' website officially list Thompson as fourth on the depth chart. Given A-Train's running style and size, and his admirable work in relief of Thomas Jones last year (he went 28/110/2 and 29/72/0 in the two games he started), I think he's capable of fitting into the system as the go-to pounder. So as far as Thompson is concerned, I think he'll get more opportunity, but I'm just not convinced that, with A-Train more suited for the role, and with Marion Barber activated, Thompson will really see a huge spike in his production.Is Thompson that good of a receiver out of the backfield? The guy has only 2 catches out of the backfield all year for 10 yards.I'm just not getting the love, I guess.

 

[bjabrad]

high ankle sprain means death for your RB for a month.

Why do you think it's a high ankle sprain? I only saw vague references to the ankle, not anything specific like a High Ankle sprain....

good call ML. news out of Cowboys camp this morning is "high ankle sprain" according to the radio. Tyson Thompson's your man.

 

[RabidRabbit]

I wonder why JJ never had an MRI?  One would think that everyone would want to know everything. 

There's been a strong trend the last few weeks of coaches leaving everybody in the dark until Sunday a.m. (Vick last week for example).  I have a feeling we won't know if he's playing until then.  The imprtant thing for Jones owners is to get the right WW guy and hope you don't need him.  If that's Thompson, that would be the guy to get.  I just can't get past the fact that Tuna has won with veteran guys like Andersen before and A-Train just seems more suited to be a "Parcells-type" RB IMHO.

Listen -- Jerry Jones said he did not have an MRI -- that is bull bunk. He was scheduled to have an MRI on Monday. Jerry Jones' comments about him being okay and he's young and strong and a fast healer and may be able to play are meaningless. :X Go watch your cheerleaders on your cell phone and quit talking football injuries you moron! [Gotta love Jerry though, that is a great commercial.]

" A source" (you've got to love the sneaky media) has said they are planning on not playing with Julius this week.

I've been telling you guys this is Dallas' or the Old Coach Wise-Guy's move of not releasing the full story to help his team win against the Giants.

Mark it down -- Julius had an MRI.

Mark it down -- He's not playing Sunday.

Mark it down -- he's got a high ankle sprain (despite Jerry Jones saying it was not a high ankle sprain like some guys got in training camp -- what??).

Mark it down -- Tyson is starting and will remain in the line-up This Sunday until he fumbles again (that could come soon with Strahan's abilities).

Mark it down -- Julius misses at a minimum 2-3 weeks.

Bill Parcells, NOT JERRY JONES, decides who is going to play in BIG D, not the money man -- not on a Tuna Team. No way does Thomas go from pine warmer in the Philly game to starter. Tyson got the rock. He's fast too and Parcells knows he needs speed on that offense, not Thomas' sluggish butt.

The money pick for this week is Tyson Thompson.

If Jones is out for 3 or more weeks then A-Train may get the job, but again that is only going to happen if Tyson fumbles his chance away.

BUT...I may be wrong.

So I grabbed both of these candidates, Tyson and A-Train on Monday.

Pour me a cold one. I lost Deuce, but may have upgraded (for the very short term) in getting the Dallas RB for a couple of weeks. I like the Dallas RB better than the Saints RB even if it was Deuce -- b/c that Saints team is a mess for whatever reason (Hurricane, road games, not very good, Brooks at QB, poor coaching, etc).

 

[Sweeper]

I am amazed and surprised at the vast quantie of posts there are in this thread and how little there is of any meaning. (other then that one link to the Dalls Morning Star Article posted 3 times)

 

[RabidRabbit]

I am amazed and surprised at the vast quantie of posts there are in this thread and how little there is of any meaning.

(other then that one link to the Dalls Morning Star Article posted 3 times)

Did you wait too long to try and claim Tyson or A-Train??? Crabby. People need to understand how Dallas and Parcells are working with this injury condition. Early in this thread some were still thinking it was not a huge deal or at least pointing to clips that said he'd play banking on Julius Jones' comments about his injury on Sunday and based on what the "de-wrinkled" owner said. That's just not true. The link from the Dallas paper this morning shows he's out for Week 6. No doubt. Grab some corn and watch Tyson play this weekend.

 

[Ridgelake]

Stompin Tom,As of now, Thompson will be the primary ball carrier, assuming JJ is out. The Philly game should tell you that. Thompson had 20 carries, Atrain only a couple. Atrain was active over Barber against Philly because Atrain is a better blocker than Barber right now. Dallas feared the Philly blitz. In the two previous games, Atrain was inactive. Barber and Thompson were active. In one of those games, Barber played the role of the 3rd down back, spelling JJ on passing downs. Parcells has commented that Barber is ahead of Thompson and Atrain (and JJ) as far as route running is concerned. In college, he was often split out wide. The ability to be a third down guy is why he was drafted.Another factor in play here is that Parcells wants to limit the number of plays that guys have each game. He has frequently talked this year about JJ getting too many plays. Not carries. Plays. He includes special teams plays in his play total. He cites the number of plays that certain people make in his press conference reviews of each game. He has specifically stated that Newman is not returning punts because he plays every defensive snap.Now given that Thompson has established himself as the kick returner, Parcells will not want him taking all of the offensive snaps as well. (See Newman, above). So to limit his offensive snaps, he will either a) use a third down guy; and/or b) substitute for a few series. As I mentioned in previous posts, I think they do both. Barber resumes his role that he has already played this year as the third down guy. Atrain gets in for a few series.To summarize: Thompson gets the majority of carries. Barber is the third down guy. ATrain plays a few series.

 

[nortobc]

I am amazed and surprised at the vast quantie of posts there are in this thread and how little there is of any meaning.

(other then that one link to the Dalls Morning Star Article posted 3 times)

Pot meet kettle....

 

[ooofffaaa]

Good info in this post.High ankle sprain & RB's = ungood.IF JJ doens't paly this week why is everyone sold on Tyson Thompson as opposed to Anthony Thomas?BIG game vs the division rival Giants this week and Parcells is going to go with a rookie who put the ball on the ground 2X last week and has problems picking up the blitz as opposed to the veteran Anthony Thomas?

 

[RabidRabbit]

Stompin Tom,

As of now, Thompson will be the primary ball carrier, assuming JJ is out.  The Philly game should tell you that.  Thompson had 20 carries, Atrain only a couple.  Atrain was active over Barber against Philly because Atrain is a better blocker than Barber right now.  Dallas feared the Philly blitz.  In the two previous games, Atrain was inactive.  Barber and Thompson were active. 

In one of those games, Barber played the role of the 3rd down back, spelling JJ on passing downs.  Parcells has commented that Barber is ahead of Thompson and Atrain (and JJ) as far as route running is concerned.  In college, he was often split out wide.  The ability to be a third down guy is why he was drafted.

Another factor in play here is that Parcells wants to limit the number of plays that guys have each game.  He has frequently talked this year about JJ getting too many plays.  Not carries.  Plays.  He includes special teams plays in his play total.  He cites the number of plays that certain people make in his press conference reviews of each game.  He has specifically stated that Newman is not returning punts because he plays every defensive snap.

Now given that Thompson has established himself as the kick returner, Parcells will not want him taking all of the offensive snaps as well.  (See Newman, above).  So to limit his offensive snaps, he will either a) use a third down guy; and/or b) substitute for a few series.  As I mentioned in previous posts, I think they do both.  Barber resumes his role that he has already played this year as the third down guy.  Atrain gets in for a few series.

To summarize:  Thompson gets the majority of carries.  Barber is the third down guy.  ATrain plays a few series.

Could be that Tyson will no longer return kicks if he will be the 1st and 2nd down back? If they removed Newman b/c he was a starter at DB., then Dallas may do the same if Tyson is the starter at RB.Marion Barber might not be strictly used on 3rd downs if they want a back into block. One clipping said that Parcells thinks he makes too many mistakes. But for the most part I would bet you are right -- Thompson sees most of the rushes --at least 70% of them.

 

[Synthesizer]

BIG game vs the division rival Giants this week and Parcells is going to go with a rookie who put the ball on the ground 2X last week and has problems picking up the blitz as opposed to the veteran Anthony Thomas?

And the flipside of that argument is Parcells going to go with the cloud-of-dust guy who is averaging 1.6 ypc and Parcells has so little faith in that he hasn't even dressed for a few games, or the youngster who can make plays and move the chains like he did last week against the Eagles? Looks like the answer is somewhere between the 2 arguments and the usual RBBC.

 

[RabidRabbit]

Good info in this post.

BIG game vs the division rival Giants this week and Parcells is going to go with a rookie who put the ball on the ground 2X last week and has problems picking up the blitz as opposed to the veteran Anthony Thomas?

The same rookie he used to pound the ball 20 times in the 2nd half to protect the lead and run the clock... that's showing some confidence in Tyson. Granted the two time he ALMOST fumbled. I didn;t see the game, but the call went to replay, correct? Were those caused by the ground, or did the ball get ripped lose when only his knee was down and the coughs had nothing to do with the his arm and ball hitting the ground. There is a difference. But you are right Parcells would just prefer never to see the ball move from his RB's arms. Based on the fact that he named Tyson the back up in week 5 (when he knew Philly would blitz) and the # of carries he gave him after the injury to Jones, makes anyone have to think that Thompson is the "guy" (if there is one) to own and use in Week 6. There simply is no other possibility right now.

 

[NYG Endzone]

The only person to run all over the Giants this season was LT.......so.......I bet the Giants hold whoever is the starter to under 100yds.......its the pass D that sucks....I'm sure even Peerless Price will get a TD and he'll be inactive.......

That's true...but it's misleading.Week 1, they destroyed Arizona. Arizona can't run at all to begin with, and during the blowout, Arizona was forced to throw all over the place.

Week 2, they got up really early on NO, and won by 20+. See Week 1.

Week 3, LT went crazy.

Week 4, got up really early on St. Louis. Still, Jackson went 17/77/1. Pretty good day.

You forgot to mention that Arizona's leading rusher week1 was KURT WARNER. Not many teams EVER get shutdown that bad.Week4 Sjax had 10 rushes for 17 yards. THATS A BAD DAY. You can only factor his 40 receiving yards soo much.

Giants rush Def is alwasys solid at home. If JJ is out I think they will have success even if away

 

[Ridgelake]

Regarding Thompson's fumbling. Yes, it is a concern. But I suspect that Parcells will model his treatment of Thompson after what he has done with Crayton. Parcells is really pushing the younger players this year. Parcells has given Crayton a fairly long leash on punt returns regarding his ball protection. More than I would have guessed. Crayton has scared the #%^& out of me with how loosely he has carried the ball on punt returns. He has fumbled some, including one last week. Finally, this week, Parcells announced that Crayton has needs to take better care or he will be replaced. But that is after 5 weeks of work. Thompson has had 1 bad week of ball protection. Given Parcells desire to develop the young guys, I suspect Thompson will get a couple more bad games before he is sat down.

 

[Urinal Mint]

It's pretty well-documented that Thomas didn't suit up because he doesn't play special teams, which backup RBs on a Parcells team are asked to do.

If all RBs were judged by 4 carries in a game, how many duds would be starting in this league, and how many studs would be rotting on the back end of a roster? Thomas has proven that he can backup very well in this league.

And the flipside of that argument is Parcells going to go with the cloud-of-dust guy who is averaging 1.6 ypc and Parcells has so little faith in that he hasn't even dressed for a few games, or the youngster who can make plays and move the chains like he did last week against the Eagles? Looks like the answer is somewhere between the 2 arguments and the usual RBBC.

 

[Urinal Mint]

My opinion from watching the game is that Thompson was fumble-prone at the end of the game because he was tired and not in as good of game shape as a typical starting RB would be.

The same rookie he used to pound the ball 20 times in the 2nd half to protect the lead and run the clock... that's showing some confidence in Tyson. Granted the two time he ALMOST fumbled. I didn;t see the game, but the call went to replay, correct? Were those caused by the ground, or did the ball get ripped lose when only his knee was down and the coughs had nothing to do with the his arm and ball hitting the ground. There is a difference. But you are right Parcells would just prefer never to see the ball move from his RB's arms.

Based on the fact that he named Tyson the back up in week 5 (when he knew Philly would blitz) and the # of carries he gave him after the injury to Jones, makes anyone have to think that Thompson is the "guy" (if there is one) to own and use in Week 6. There simply is no other possibility right now.

 

[Noahs Troopers]

Yeeehaw. This situation is awesome, I play the JJ owner this weekend, he has Ole Ricky pothead Williams on his squad too. Two scenarios: He plays JJ and then the game starts and there is JJ on the sidelines yacking it up with his teammates, laughing and having a good old time and the JJ owner is left looking like :X Second scenario: He plays RW out of fear that JJ is out, Ricky puts up a huge 20 yard effort splitting the carries with Ronnie Brown, meanwhile JJ suits up and shreds the NYG for 160/2 and the JJ owner is left looking like :XCheers to you JJ, don't let anyone know anything until it's after the roster submit time. Thanks JJ, you are my hero.

 

[Ridgelake]

JJ is officially listed as Questionable for week 6. Here is the latest report from Dallascowboys.com

The Cowboys returned to practice Wednesday here at Valley Ranch, without a key contributor on both sides of the ball.

Middle linebacker and defensive captain Dat Nguyen missed another practice with a neck injury that caused him to miss Sunday's game with the Eagles.

Also, running back Julius Jones, who sat out the entire second half last week with an ankle injury, did not practice as well.

Both players rode the stationary bikes for the majority of the early practice, and then worked off to the side with the strength and conditioning coaches.

Nguyen initially suffered the injury against the 49ers back in Week Three, but finished the game, even making a game-clinching interception late in the fourth quarter. And he played the following week in Oakland, although he recorded only five tackles, obviously still bothered by the injury.

Last week, Nguyen practiced two of the three days, but the Cowboys decided to keep him out, starting Scott Shanle instead.

As for Jones, he likely would've returned to the second half had the game been closer. If Jones doesn't play this week against the Giants, the Cowboys will likely play both rookie Tyson Thompson, who had 75 second-half yards last week, and veteran Anthony Thomas.

Link

 

[Neal Cassady]

JJ is officially listed as Questionable for week 6. Here is the latest report from Dallascowboys.com

The Cowboys returned to practice Wednesday here at Valley Ranch, without a key contributor on both sides of the ball.

Middle linebacker and defensive captain Dat Nguyen missed another practice with a neck injury that caused him to miss Sunday's game with the Eagles.

Also, running back Julius Jones, who sat out the entire second half last week with an ankle injury, did not practice as well.

Both players rode the stationary bikes for the majority of the early practice, and then worked off to the side with the strength and conditioning coaches.

Nguyen initially suffered the injury against the 49ers back in Week Three, but finished the game, even making a game-clinching interception late in the fourth quarter. And he played the following week in Oakland, although he recorded only five tackles, obviously still bothered by the injury.

Last week, Nguyen practiced two of the three days, but the Cowboys decided to keep him out, starting Scott Shanle instead.

As for Jones, he likely would've returned to the second half had the game been closer. If Jones doesn't play this week against the Giants, the Cowboys will likely play both rookie Tyson Thompson, who had 75 second-half yards last week, and veteran Anthony Thomas.

Link

This is actually good news for Jones in my opinion. Having had multiple ankle injuries while playing college basketball, including high ankle sprains, I don't ever remember riding a stationary bicycle three days after the injury. I gotta believe he will miss this week, but should be able to go the week after. If he had the type of injury that forced him to miss 2-3 weeks, he would, in all likelyhood, be on his ### with a pack of ice on his ankle all day, every day.

 

[1 800 UNBELIEVABLE]

Update: Jones wore a walking boot to protect his ankle on Tuesday, the Dallas Morning News reports. Recommendation: It's looking like Jones has a dreaded high ankle sprain -- as of Wednesday morning he hadn't practiced this week, and the Cowboys seem to be preparing to play without him. Tyson Thompson is the logical choice to start if Jones can't go Sunday, but coach Bill Parcells could elect to give veteran Anthony Thomas more carries instead.

 

[gocats]

Link?

 

[Sam Quentin]

Update: Jones wore a walking boot to protect his ankle on Tuesday, the Dallas Morning News reports.

Recommendation: It's looking like Jones has a dreaded high ankle sprain -- as of Wednesday morning he hadn't practiced this week, and the Cowboys seem to be preparing to play without him. Tyson Thompson is the logical choice to start if Jones can't go Sunday, but coach Bill Parcells could elect to give veteran Anthony Thomas more carries instead.

The walking boot was yesterday. Today he's riding a stationary bike.

 

[1 800 UNBELIEVABLE]

Link?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=roto...owire&type=lgns

 

[ghosttothepost]

They are broadcasting Parcell's Wednesday press-conference live right now on the Cowboy's website. I missed the first 10 mins or so when he presumably talked about Jone's situation/status. Anyone else happen to catch what he said?

 

[(HULK)]

 

[Peyton Marino]

How's JJ doing now guys?

 

[Billy Ball Thorton]

Your pretty lame dude. What a gay comment to make. It's almost as bad as your screen name...

 

[jafo]

How's JJ doing now guys?

Have a look for yourself. Clicky

 

[Peyton Marino]

I'm pretty sure I called this.

 

[jafo]

I'm pretty sure I called this.

If only you could bring all your great wisdom to every thread...

 

[Noahs Troopers]

The question is will JJ play in October at all?????

 

[Synthesizer]

I'm pretty sure I called this.

I did too. I said that a RB would hurt his ankle and possibly miss his next game or 2. Nailed it.

 

[Peyton Marino]

The question is will JJ play in October at all?????

If he does he'll:A. Get too many carries and get hurt again

or

B. His carries will be reduced and his YPC will be too low for him to be effective for fantasy owners.