Gilyard has a very good chance to start at flanker with a very good QB on a team that will throw a lot (worked for Clayton). Gilyard is bigger and faster than Clayton...and I believe he runs better after the catch. We will have to see how quickly he can learn the offense, so he may not be a great re-draft pickup, but if you can get him as a relatively cheap flyer in dynasty, you should.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
What about Armendola, Gibson, and Robinson? What is your take on those guys? Rookie WRs traditionally and with few exceptions are terrible their 1st year in the league.
I think Robeinson or Gibson will start at SE. Probably Gibson as the news on Robinson's foot just isn't getting better. Armendola will come in in 3 wr sets and play the slot. This is exactly how it was with Clayton...now Gilyard will just fill Clayton's old spot.I do agree about rookie Wr's and that is why I think he is a better dynasty play, but it's not totally unheard of to have a rookie WR do well later in their rookie year when they are paired with a good QB in a pass happy offense....so I wouldn't rule him out in re-draft.
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Like him better than Robinson/Gibson's chances.
Bradford's really really going to miss Clayton (who made his transition into the league helluva easier having someone he was really familiar with.
Rams really got to address the 1 spot in the offseason. Luckily it's a rather deep looking draft @ WR.
Bradford's really really going to miss Clayton (who made his transition into the league helluva easier having someone he was really familiar with.
Rams really got to address the 1 spot in the offseason. Luckily it's a rather deep looking draft @ WR.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Anybody opening up a free roster slot for Gilyard?This is the time of year when fair to middlin' guys move to the end of the bench and the question becomes, if you cannot reliably start them and you will likely not be forced to, why do you have them? Why not free up the roster spot and take some fliers, because if those guys go off you won't be able to get them the next week off the WW. Aug. 15th, Gilyard is on the Audible Preseason watch List. July 15th he's on the Undervalued WR's list. He was on the Next Surprise Receiver list. He was on the Future Studs and Sleepers list. That's all a long time ago but lo and behold he suddenly has a major opportunity. "Gilyard is everything Amendola can be with a lot more elusiveness and explosiveness." - The Audible."Mardy Gilyard, 6-foot-0, 187, STL - Generally does a good job of working back to the quarterback when the protection starts to break down. Snatches balls thrown above his head out of the air and flashes soft hands, but traps too many balls against his frame. His greatest strength by far is his run after the catch abilities. Excellent wiggle and can make multiple defenders miss when he gets into space. Though he may lack breakaway speed he is explosive and still fast enough to turn an underneath catch into a long gain." - Slipping Through the Cracks - Who Is the Next Surprise WR? 6/7/10 - He's mentioned alongside former 4th rounder Tampa Mike there too."Gilyard is a sleeper with good upside. He must polish his game in order to get the most out of his skill set, but it wouldn't surprise me to see him move into the starting slot receiver position for the Rams sometime this year." - 7/6/10Three years at Cincy:YEAR REC YDS AVG LNG TD ATT YDS AVG LNG TD FUM LST 2007 36 536 14.9 76 3 0 0 0.0 0 0 0 0 2008 81 1276 15.8 69 11 2 10 5.0 6 0 0 0 2009 87 1191 13.7 68 11 5 16 3.2 5 1 0 0 Those 2007-08 stats look pretty darn good.The Rams have seemed determined to throw. Is Amendola really going to get HALF of Bradford's completions every single game? Will there not be a deep game? No red zone WR? Seems hard to picture.
I find it interesting that there has no been no news on Robinson what so ever. He's got a foot injury but I haven't ready any reports on his status at practice or anything. Interesting because of the Mark Clayton injury.
People seem pretty convinced that Amendola is the guy to have. Understandable because of the 16 targets last week. But he doesn't seem to be a guy that can stretch the field. Are Gibson/Gilyard those type of players? Robinson certainly has a better track record than they do.
People seem pretty convinced that Amendola is the guy to have. Understandable because of the 16 targets last week. But he doesn't seem to be a guy that can stretch the field. Are Gibson/Gilyard those type of players? Robinson certainly has a better track record than they do.
lyon812
Footballguy
That's my only fear with Gilyard. His playmaking abilities are excellent, but he was touted as a slot guy who needed to bulk up and lacked the strength to get off the press or block successfully. Unfortunately, Amendola's job is pretty safe. Reports are that Gilyard looks comfortable at flanker, which is good. But we'll have to keep a close eye on how he does against physical/large corners.
A nice article on him in general is here: http://www.stltoday.com/sports/football/pr...88e0c12f37.html
Rams "insiders" think it will be Gibson with the best shot this year.
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/rou...127992bc8b.html
http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/rou...127992bc8b.html
D'OHtis
Footballguy
Worked out in offseasons @ OU.I expect Amendola to get his 5+ catches a game, but I think this crushes Bradford's upside (as small as it may be) in Year 1. Gibson/Robinson struggle to get open consistently and I think you're asking a lot of 2 rookies in Gilyard/Alecander to step up off the bat.
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GoodLloydHaveMercy
Footballguy
What about this? Danario Alexander impresses BradfordD said:
or this?
Dude was super impressive in college and guys like this don't grow on trees. Reportedly 4.4 after his latest surgery?... just now getting healthy?... as far as upside goes I like him a ton. Obviously a risk but in a dynasty league with a QB like Bradford and a desperate need for a big red zone target he might be worth a roster spot.
Check out these
particularly his breakaway speed!!
nickel&dime
Footballguy
I know Laurent Robinson has a foot issue he's dealing with, but I'm surprised that he's not being mentioned much. He's almost a "dark horse" even though he stepped up big last year when Avery went down. He didn't last long, but I remember picking him up and starting him last year...and getting great production from him.
Is his foot injury that bad? I don't think he's on the injury report anymore.
Is his foot injury that bad? I don't think he's on the injury report anymore.
All I've heard is that its going to be a lingering issue. But then again he's not listed on the injury report. I have a feeling he's going to be the play. But then again it seems like a crapshoot.
PennStater77
Footballguy
Bradford will be good, but he isn't a very good QB yet.. And no, No ram WR is worthy of a FF start IMO..
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Even though WR is not the Ram's strength, Gilyard still has a lot to hurdle before he enters the lineup. Clayton, Avery, Amendola, Gibson (if kept) and Alexander are clearly ahead of him IMO. Injuries are possible with this group...and I think that is what it would take to see Gilyard achieve substantial playing time.
Mighty Mice
Footballguy
So you have a blossoming QB. And look at the guys competing for the roster/starting spots
SE/FLANKER: Avery, Clayton (RFA), Gibson, Robinson, Alexander, Pettis
SLOT: Amendola, Salas, Gilyard
(And there are others on roster (West); IR (Curry); and PS (Matthews) who are less likely).
Assuming they can't keep more than 6 for roster size reasons, three of these guys will not make the roster or be traded, leave FA or whatnot.
This is a crowded house!!
SE/FLANKER: Avery, Clayton (RFA), Gibson, Robinson, Alexander, Pettis
SLOT: Amendola, Salas, Gilyard
(And there are others on roster (West); IR (Curry); and PS (Matthews) who are less likely).
Assuming they can't keep more than 6 for roster size reasons, three of these guys will not make the roster or be traded, leave FA or whatnot.
This is a crowded house!!
wiscstlatlmia
Footballguy
Salas Avery and Kendricks are the guys to get in Saint Louis folks
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
Blackjacks
Footballguy
The rumor was in STL that Gilyard had a very hard time learning the offensive playbook last year (stupid). If that was true we might as well cut him cause I am sure McDaniel's playbook is going to be much larger and much more complex.
I like Salas alot but I am on the Pettis bandwagon
I like Salas alot but I am on the Pettis bandwagon
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
So many mediocre targets, so few balls to go around. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. I am going to unload Danario/Avery to see if anyone will bite.
TheFanatic
Footballguy
Demarco Farr was saying that on 101 yesterday during the drive time show.Here's the exact quote from Beat Writer Jim Thomas in the link above:
Avery might be out the door too despite being the first WR taken a couple years go. He better realize that he doesn't get to keep his job from the training table. What Otis said above is true, with one caveat. Danario is the guy if he can stay healthy and he's had some knee issues. Major issues. He's the most talented guy of the bunch, and the cheapest, I believe. He's probably safe along with Amendola and the new TE. After that, nobody is safe on this squad. They have 9 guys that will compete for six spots. Even one of the two WR's drafted last week could wind up on a practice squad.
Sweet Love
IBL Representative
Add to that, FA (when it starts). I would be surprised if a good (V-Jax, Holmes) or decent (MSW) WR were NOT to sign with STL.'TheFanatic said:
TheFanatic
Footballguy
There has been absolutely no talk about that here in St. Louis on the local stations. That being said, I could really see it happening. I think it would be pretty enticing for a WR to have a rising start like Bradford throwing to him. I actually think that with a strong running game and the WR's all healthy, that there will be a solid corps with whom they have. That being said, I'm more concerned about them getting a FA RB to backup SJ39.
Blackjacks
Footballguy
I definetly agree rb is more of a need than a wr.
