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I thought Dunkirk and Lady Bird were the best movies last year. Shape of Water is puzzling because it’s not at all the kind of movie that normally wins.
I don't get the Del Toro love, but the Academy seems to love him. It was well acted and looked good, but I thought the movie was hella dumb.
I’m surprised given you recommended The Orphanage so much. Del Toro directed and produced movies are fantasy so you have to just buy in to it all. It was fun, I liked it a lot.
I think he just EPed that one, but could be wrong. Felt like they put his name on that one in the same way they use Tarantino's name on posters/dvds to push them.
Right he wasn’t creative behind it but he produced it so it was something and someone he at least liked. It totally fit into his style.
Listening to a podcast today about Shawshank, and they were talking about the movies that were up for Best Picture that year - Quiz Show, Shawshank, Forrest Gump, Pulp Fiction. They brought up a good point that we need a lot more of that - movies that are interested in telling a great story. Now it's largely just a land grab for any known property or franchise so they can guarantee butts in seats at the theater. Just like somebody said about news in another thread, this is our fault - at some point we decided that we want to pay for this junk at the theater, so that is what is being pumped out to a large extent.
It's so weird that I was digging through my phone today and found a list I'd written down. Like, a two year old list. It was a list of movies my screenwriting professor recommended when I asked him for some good movies to show my chick that would impress her. I still haven't done any research (as I just found the list today) but it says:KarmaPolice said:
I agree with you 100% and characters that are well thought out and developed. Like you could write individual movies about all the individual characters that would hold water on their own. You know what else too - in addition to and to "compliment" the monetary incentives you mentioned - transmedia is a big deal right now. Stuff they can make into video games and pick up where the movies left off. Stuff that must be compatible among multiple platforms and formats. It's dragging everything down, man. Dumbing it down.KarmaPolice said:
Agreed. Totally sweet love story/fairy tale. Either you buy into the lovely, weird world Del Toro creates or....well...this thread.
This is a movie that is beautiful to look at, it’s extremely well directed, and extremely well acted and.... yeah it’s awful.Binky The Doormat said:
I’m sure there’s a new High School Musical movie coming out soon for you guys.
What was good about it other than the acting and the visuals? The story was predictable, the romance not terribly thrilling, and the stupidity of some of the scenes (that bathroom fIlling with water laughably should have caused all eyebrows to raise, his unexplained healing powers, etc) was, well, stupid.
There were fantasy strongholds on that floor that would have prevented it from crashing through from the incredible weight of that water?
You’re right. I should have gotten into my “I’m going to watch Mission: Impossible or Sharknado” mindset.
Definitely agree with the bolded. And the acting was really good. But I just disagree that it was a story well told. It was boring, overly strange, and incredibly predictable.
Precisely. And fairytales don’t have to have complex stories to be powerful.bigbottom said:
