Keeper League Rules (1 Viewer)

[yankeerebel]

Our league rules allow a player to be kept 3 times. If they are kept 3 times the 4th year they must be put back into the player pool so they can be drafted. We have been a keeper league for 3 years and an owner has told me he plans to trade Peyton Manning to the owner that has Brady so he can then keep Brady for 3 years. Is this a common keeper strategy or do most keeper leagues have some kind of rule to prevent this so the weaker teams have a chance to draft these players?

 

[pittstownkiller]

It is hard to say what everyone does, there are so many specifics for each league. I would say that if you created a three year rule you would have to anticipated at year three in your league, you would have some of these issues. Personally, I don't see a problem with it. If the Brady/Manning owners see equal value in the swap they should be able to do it. It sounds like a good league where the owners are trying to be proactive. I would also note that you refer to the lesser teams in your league, so I can assume that these are two of the better teams; moves like this are why they are good. If is your intention to get turnover you could make it that in year three players must hit the waiver wire but it will just create problems, to a lesser extent, in year two. What is preventing some other team from offering their QB plus something else, for Manning or Brady? If guys want a commodity they should be willing to pay for it; this could benefit the whole league. You could also have a concern that the owners involved could, after three more years, just swap back; but it would be hard to project talent out that far and sooner or later one of the players involved will tail off. One of your lesser teams, if there is a league wide concern, should step up and make a compelling counter-offer, that would be healthy for the league overall, with one QB going to a lower ranked team and one probably hitting FA; it would also set up a nice precedent.

 

[belljr]

We only keep 1 guy but there are no trades allowed after the trade deadline and until keepers are declared for next year.

 

[Saint]

Seems almost collusion-style. I run two different keeper leagues. In one, a player is kept for 2 years, until he is placed back in the player pool, he is considered a keeper. So if he is kept by one team and traded to another team, he has not yet returned to the player pool, so he is still considered a keeper and limited to the 2-year rule.

The other league avoids all this. You can keep any player at 2-rounds higher than where you drafted him. Ie, a 5th round player costs you a 3rd round pick the following year. You can't keep anyone choses in the first two rounds of the draft. Makes it a little bit more interesting and you can see some interesting draft picks in the late rounds just because they *may* pan out in a year or two.

 

[maverick0189]

I run a keeper auction league and have it set up so keepers can only be kept for 3 years also, the player's price goes up by $5 each year. This type of trading is stopped by defining the 3-year period starting with the initial price. So a player can only be kept for 3 years from the initial baselined price.

 

[simsarge]

Seems almost collusion-style. I run two different keeper leagues. In one, a player is kept for 2 years, until he is placed back in the player pool, he is considered a keeper. So if he is kept by one team and traded to another team, he has not yet returned to the player pool, so he is still considered a keeper and limited to the 2-year rule.

The other league avoids all this. You can keep any player at 2-rounds higher than where you drafted him. Ie, a 5th round player costs you a 3rd round pick the following year. You can't keep anyone choses in the first two rounds of the draft. Makes it a little bit more interesting and you can see some interesting draft picks in the late rounds just because they *may* pan out in a year or two.

How do you keep track of previous drafts? Keeping the draft board(s) or does you league software do this for you?

Did you start out as a keeper league? How many returning coaches from the previous years (all?)

I'm running a 2nd year, 10 team, redraft and some guys are interested both in expanding and making it a keeper.

tia

 

[Howlin Wolf]

Seems almost collusion-style. I run two different keeper leagues. In one, a player is kept for 2 years, until he is placed back in the player pool, he is considered a keeper. So if he is kept by one team and traded to another team, he has not yet returned to the player pool, so he is still considered a keeper and limited to the 2-year rule.

The other league avoids all this. You can keep any player at 2-rounds higher than where you drafted him. Ie, a 5th round player costs you a 3rd round pick the following year. You can't keep anyone choses in the first two rounds of the draft. Makes it a little bit more interesting and you can see some interesting draft picks in the late rounds just because they *may* pan out in a year or two.

How do you keep track of previous drafts? Keeping the draft board(s) or does you league software do this for you?

Did you start out as a keeper league? How many returning coaches from the previous years (all?)

I'm running a 2nd year, 10 team, redraft and some guys are interested both in expanding and making it a keeper.

tia

QUESTION:How does your "3 year rule" operate when a player is traded after being 'rostered' for only 1 year?

1. Does the 'clock' reset to zero for the new owner" ?

2. Does the new owner only get 2 years of 'rostering ?

The answer to your question about a Manning/Brady trade is dictated by the above Q & A

 

[Ignoratio Elenchi]

Our league rules allow a player to be kept 3 times. If they are kept 3 times the 4th year they must be put back into the player pool so they can be drafted. We have been a keeper league for 3 years and an owner has told me he plans to trade Peyton Manning to the owner that has Brady so he can then keep Brady for 3 years. Is this a common keeper strategy or do most keeper leagues have some kind of rule to prevent this so the weaker teams have a chance to draft these players?

I play in a league with a rule similar to this - the players go back into the pool three years after they were drafted, regardless of whether they're traded during that time. The "contract" stays with the player, it doesn't reset if he's traded to another owner. In your case, Brady goes back into the draft pool this year no matter what.

 

[FootballGuy22]

In my league a player can only be protected (kept) 3 consecutive years. It does not matter if he is traded or whatever.

I don't think you can begin a keeper league AND expand out of an existing league, it wouldn't be fair to the expansion owners. If you are going about this you need to have an initial dynasty auction/draft next year. Set out the dynasty rules prior to this.

 

[yankeerebel]

Seems almost collusion-style. I run two different keeper leagues. In one, a player is kept for 2 years, until he is placed back in the player pool, he is considered a keeper. So if he is kept by one team and traded to another team, he has not yet returned to the player pool, so he is still considered a keeper and limited to the 2-year rule.

The other league avoids all this. You can keep any player at 2-rounds higher than where you drafted him. Ie, a 5th round player costs you a 3rd round pick the following year. You can't keep anyone choses in the first two rounds of the draft. Makes it a little bit more interesting and you can see some interesting draft picks in the late rounds just because they *may* pan out in a year or two.

How do you keep track of previous drafts? Keeping the draft board(s) or does you league software do this for you?

Did you start out as a keeper league? How many returning coaches from the previous years (all?)

I'm running a 2nd year, 10 team, redraft and some guys are interested both in expanding and making it a keeper.

tia

The site we use just started keeping track of keepers but doesn't seem to work real well so far. I use the Draft Predictor software during our draft and it allows me to export the draft results to an Excel spreadsheet. It's pretty simpe to keep track of it there. I even wrote a simple formula that keeps track of the round the owners have to give up in the next draft for each player.We started out as a re-draft league. When we changed over to a keeper league, we didn't keep any players at the next draft but everyone drafted knowing we would at the next year's draft.

 

[yankeerebel]

Thanks for the help, guys. We had our end of season meeting and voted to do exactly what most of you do. Our contracts used to reset with a trade. We changed the rule so that the contract follows the player now. So Brady would now go back in the player pool whether he trades him or not.