kenbrell thompkins (2 Viewers)

[rickyg]

The only question is what happens to thompkins when gronk and amendola are on the field with him. Does he get lost on the shuffle?

Ne offense can support 4 studs. 3 wrs and a Rb.

Last year it was gronk, welker, Hernandez/Lloyd, Ridley.

This year it could be amendola, gronk, thompkins/vereen, Ridley.

 

[Raider Nation]

He may even start week one for me which I didn't think possible as I wanted to see him in action first. If healthy I think his floor could be 60 and 700 which is a great year for a rookie, an undrafted one at that.

That floor is way too low, barring injury.

Ack, a floor is the lowest it could be to which 700 is worst case scenario. Lloyd only had 911 yards last season from the same spot and that's about what I think we can expect from Thompkins barring injury/benching.

But that was with Gronk and Hernandez.

 

[We Tigers]

He may even start week one for me which I didn't think possible as I wanted to see him in action first. If healthy I think his floor could be 60 and 700 which is a great year for a rookie, an undrafted one at that.

That floor is way too low, barring injury.

Ack, a floor is the lowest it could be to which 700 is worst case scenario. Lloyd only had 911 yards last season from the same spot and that's about what I think we can expect from Thompkins barring injury/benching.

Yeah. After tonight, he's probably actually going to be overvalued

 

[Chimp Magnet]

A this point we have to reassess where this kid should go in a rookie draft. Is it crazy to take him before a Keenan Allen? Hopkins? Patterson? Maybe Patterson.

Is it crazy to take him over montee ball? Leveon bell?

What is everyone thinking?

Allen? No

Hopkins? Yes, Crazy

Patterson? Little less crazy, still yes

Ball? Yeah, probably still a little crazy

Bell? Even with the injury we're talking dynasty, so yeah still crazy.

I think he now becomes a 2ndish round pick now if you're somehow just drafting your rookie drafts.

Well, somehow my league hasn't drafted yet either. I agree with the 2nd round assessment - I currently have him at 18 overall/WR10, but would concede that I'm a little bullish.

What 9 rookie WRs would you take over him? WR 10 seems bearish to me. Not bullish.

 

[ldizzle]

The only question is what happens to thompkins when gronk and amendola are on the field with him. Does he get lost on the shuffle?

Ne offense can support 4 studs. 3 wrs and a Rb.

Last year it was gronk, welker, Hernandez/Lloyd, Ridley.

This year it could be amendola, gronk, thompkins/vereen, Ridley.

Then i guess ATL is overvalued right now. Not comparing the two teams players, but it is possible. Besides Nobody is expecting Thompkins to be a wr1, they would hope he is a good wr3 and a wr2 at best.

 

[Bri]

He went in 8th round of FSWA draft tonight-@fantasytaz drafted him

 

[rickyg]

He went in 8th round of FSWA draft tonight-@fantasytaz drafted him

Before or after his 100 yard outburst?

 

[rickyg]

In dynasty leagues, this is a rate opportunity to grab and secure what could be an integral part of the NE offense for years to come.

In redraft its an opportunity to snag what could be an integral part of the NE orlffense this year in the later rounds.

8th round is getting a little crazy in redraft. He's still a rookie. I think there might be better wrs to choose from then. But 10th round or later why not?

Guys, is bill belicheck just f in with us rt now? Watch the regular season start and this kid barely gets targeted. Someone else will be the star.

Belicheck has a little shanahan in him.

 

[Bri]

He went in 8th round of FSWA draft tonight-@fantasytaz drafted him

Before or after his 100 yard outburst?

It was about halftime. Still that's roughly a 9 round increase from his ADP (which I had open in a different window) and others in the chat room said they were going to select him as well that round.

Clearly, tonight was what people needed to see from him to jump on board.

I don't know that I've ever been drafting during a game where a player's value skyrocketed instantly before, it was unique. Sorry to get all AC look at my draft on ya.

 

[OnTheReg]

As a hardcore Pats fan, week to week, I still think it will be tough to predict which WR gets the most balls, except Amendola, and Gronkowski when he's back. Maybe someone like Thompkins or Boyce completely exceeds expectations for a rookie receiver in a complex offense, but I just don't see it. They will change their gameplan week to week drastically, as they always do. Don't overspend on a pick.

 

[Bri]

Guys, is bill belicheck just f in with us rt now? Watch the regular season start and this kid barely gets targeted. Someone else will be the star.

only amendola had more targets thru two games

 

[OG_GF]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

 

[Bronco Billy]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

 

[lardonastick]

A this point we have to reassess where this kid should go in a rookie draft. Is it crazy to take him before a Keenan Allen? Hopkins? Patterson? Maybe Patterson.

Is it crazy to take him over montee ball? Leveon bell?

What is everyone thinking?

Allen? No

Hopkins? Yes, Crazy

Patterson? Little less crazy, still yes

Ball? Yeah, probably still a little crazy

Bell? Even with the injury we're talking dynasty, so yeah still crazy.

I think he now becomes a 2ndish round pick now if you're somehow just drafting your rookie drafts.

Well, somehow my league hasn't drafted yet either. I agree with the 2nd round assessment - I currently have him at 18 overall/WR10, but would concede that I'm a little bullish.

What 9 rookie WRs would you take over him? WR 10 seems bearish to me. Not bullish.

Sorry, too paranoid to post that.

 

[Bri]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

victor cruz didn't run with the ones as a rookie, that's a pretty dramatic difference. KT has been for quite some time now.

There is absolutely doubt and all with KT or any rookie, but when he keeps producing it helps alleviate those concerns.

 

[rickyg]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.

Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

 

[Ketamine Dreams]

He went at #19 in our dynasty rookie/free agent draft earlier this week. i was targeting him at #21. He's first round material now.

 

[ex-ghost]

He just went #25 in my league - dynasty rookie/free agent.

 

[rickyg]

He went at #19 in our dynasty rookie/free agent draft earlier this week. i was targeting him at #21. He's first round material now.

Agreed. No shot he falls to me at 19 tomorrow in my rookie draft. If I want him gonna have to over pay with the 5th pick. And I think I'm ok with that.

I can see the draft starting out with some combo of lacy, Bernard, Patterson before my 4th and 5th picks.

L. Bell is injured.

Montee ball is unspectacular and mired in an rbbc.

Every other Rb in this draft is a backup or timeshare at best.

Keenan Allen has that nagging pcl and is on the chargers (although I so like his situation too).

For me it will be some combination of Austin/thompkins, Patterson, thompkins, or Patterson/Austin if they both fall to me.

I know, I'm nuts. But nuts has won me championships before so ill roll with it!

 

[Kenny Powers]

####. Im glad he had a nice showing tonight, but now I have no idea when to take him so I know I can still get him in my drafts, but not so early where Im missing out on value elsewhere. Im thinking 12th/13th round, but well see.

 

[OG_GF]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.

Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

 

[MoveToSkypager]

####. Im glad he had a nice showing tonight, but now I have no idea when to take him so I know I can still get him in my drafts, but not so early where Im missing out on value elsewhere. Im thinking 12th/13th round, but well see.

I think he's going to be a guy that someone will take him "too" early in every league now. Some people will see him putting up the same kind of points as Greg Jennings/Mike Williams/Kenny Britt. 7-8 rounder.

 

[JamesTheScot]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Did Cruz do it with the 1's, against the 1's, after running with the 1's all through training camp?

The stats without context really mean nothing in preseason.

 

[rickyg]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

You are definitely right. But sometimes you just take a shot. This year? This is the kid im taking that shot with in all leagues possible.

 

[omally]

He went at #19 in our dynasty rookie/free agent draft earlier this week. i was targeting him at #21. He's first round material now.

Agreed. No shot he falls to me at 19 tomorrow in my rookie draft. If I want him gonna have to over pay with the 5th pick. And I think I'm ok with that.

I can see the draft starting out with some combo of lacy, Bernard, Patterson before my 4th and 5th picks.

L. Bell is injured.

Montee ball is unspectacular and mired in an rbbc.

Every other Rb in this draft is a backup or timeshare at best.

Keenan Allen has that nagging pcl and is on the chargers (although I so like his situation too).

For me it will be some combination of Austin/thompkins, Patterson, thompkins, or Patterson/Austin if they both fall to me.

I know, I'm nuts. But nuts has won me championships before so ill roll with it!

No interest in Hopkins? I think Ej Manuel will be a starter this year, and possibly Geno Smith too.

 

[rickyg]

He went at #19 in our dynasty rookie/free agent draft earlier this week. i was targeting him at #21. He's first round material now.

Agreed. No shot he falls to me at 19 tomorrow in my rookie draft. If I want him gonna have to over pay with the 5th pick. And I think I'm ok with that.I can see the draft starting out with some combo of lacy, Bernard, Patterson before my 4th and 5th picks.

L. Bell is injured.

Montee ball is unspectacular and mired in an rbbc.

Every other Rb in this draft is a backup or timeshare at best.

Keenan Allen has that nagging pcl and is on the chargers (although I so like his situation too).

For me it will be some combination of Austin/thompkins, Patterson, thompkins, or Patterson/Austin if they both fall to me.

I know, I'm nuts. But nuts has won me championships before so ill roll with it!

No interest in Hopkins? I think Ej Manuel will be a starter this year, and possibly Geno Smith too.

My bad I forgot him. I am interested. Crap!

 

[JamesTheScot]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

Good posting. The brilliant know when to deviate.

If this were someone's retirement account, I'd say play it safe and play the averages. But since it's fantasy football, why not take a higher risk position in the marketplace?

Has anyone ever done a study to see how big money leagues compare to the average league in terms of deviations from ADP? Would be interesting to see whether the amount of money at stake causes safer picking compared to smaller stakes leagues.

 

[OG_GF]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

You are definitely right. But sometimes you just take a shot. This year? This is the kid im taking that shot with in all leagues possible.

Some good advice in general ... never "fall in love" with one player. Trust me, I took Randy Moss in the first round, the year he freaked out. Spent the whole year trying to replace my first round WR pick. Later traded for Lloyd, and he sucked too.

Could KT break out, contend for rookie of the year? Absolutely. He has the opportunity, for sure. Is it likely you will start him on a fantasy team this year? Only if your starting WRs get hurt.

 

[rickyg]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

You are definitely right. But sometimes you just take a shot. This year? This is the kid im taking that shot with in all leagues possible.

Some good advice in general ... never "fall in love" with one player. Trust me, I took Randy Moss in the first round, the year he freaked out. Spent the whole year trying to replace my first round WR pick. Later traded for Lloyd, and he sucked too.

Could KT break out, contend for rookie of the year? Absolutely. He has the opportunity, for sure. Is it likely you will start him on a fantasy team this year? Only if your starting WRs get hurt.

I hear ya and good advice indeed. But for me, I'm in 3 leagues, 2 redraft, I dynasty. Both redrafts happened already and I got him in the 17th round in one and as a waiver wire add in the other league.

My only dilemma is how much to overpay if I want him in this rookie draft in my dynasty league starting tomorrow.

But it's just a rookie draft pick. Most of these guys don't work out anyway. They either go on to be middling talents or busts at the nfl level.

I really feel like After gio, lacy, patterson, hopkins, It's a total crapshoot. Even Austin. His size makes me pause. Every other player has question marks surrounding them. Crapshoot. So why not go with the guy you have a great feeling about? Even if its reaching...

 

[Bri]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.

Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

this is a cop out. We draft before any rookie plays an NFL game and FF is entirely speculation. You can't wait til he plays a bunch of NFL games to draft him.

He's played in 3 preseason games not one.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Now Mallett is hitting Thompkins?

8 Rec 126 Yards in a preseason game? Color me impressed... and super excited that I grabbed him in the 15th round of my 17 round draft this past weekend. Almost doing backflips about the guy at the moment.

Anyone have a count on the amount of targets he's gotten this game? Feels like something in the range of 12-15? I don't have the game on just been watching text coverage. Besides the stats can anyone with the game say how he actually looks on field? I'm assuming he's just open non-stop if Brady kept keying in on him so much. Which is terrifying if you think about him being this open without Gronk and Amendola on the field? How open will he be when he's the #3 target?

I saw a post that said Lloyd had 130 targets last year. With Hernandez gone and Vereen not exactly chiseled in for a set number of targets, there's real potential here. And since BB will tailor game plans to suit his players' strengths, I'm warming up to the idea of the guy maybe having redraft value this season.

 

[OG_GF]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.

Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

this is a cop out. We draft before any rookie plays an NFL game and FF is entirely speculation. You can't wait til he plays a bunch of NFL games to draft him.

He's played in 3 preseason games not one.

A cop out? How? All I am saying is he is unproven. Do I think he's a good late round flier? Sure. Do I think he should shoot up from a 15th round pick to an 8th round pick? No, I don't.

 

[rickyg]

Love seeing stuff like this: http://nesn.com/2013/08/kenbrell-thompkins-locks-up-starting-role-in-patriots-offense-with-dominant-performance-against-lions/

 

[Bri]

When Victor Cruz was a rookie, he had a preseason game where he put up 150 and 3 TDs. He was OK as a rookie, but not much value in a redraft.

Just saying ... if you draft him too high, based on one preseason game ... you are making a mistake.

Different situations. Cruz was a rookie sitting behind a lot of talent at the wr position. There was no way he was getting a shot that year.

Thompkins has literally no one in front of him from holding into the wr2 spot in ne this year. He has outplayed the higher draft picks in Dobson and Boyce. Edelman is a non factor.

The inly sure thing at wr is amendola who has a checkered injury history. Opportunity is knocking for thompkins. It wasn't for Cruz.

That is a good point ... but I stand by my point ... 1 preseason game, does not make him a stud.

When there is a larger sample size of NFL games for him, one can make a proper eval. Until then, it's speculation.

Brandon Lloyd had a lot of opportunity, the year Moss freaked out. How did that work out for him?

this is a cop out. We draft before any rookie plays an NFL game and FF is entirely speculation. You can't wait til he plays a bunch of NFL games to draft him.

He's played in 3 preseason games not one.

A cop out? How? All I am saying is he is unproven. Do I think he's a good late round flier? Sure. Do I think he should shoot up from a 15th round pick to an 8th round pick? No, I don't.

because...didn't I just write why? We don't have the luxury of waiting til games are played.

I see you don't think 8th round is too early, that's fine. To each his own, it just kinda kills the discussion for FF if we start saying let's wait til the season.

 

[OG_GF]

Look at your history. Look at what Terrell Owens did in preseason as a rookie, and then look at his rookie year. It's not that great, when you compare it to what he did in pre-season.

I like Thompkins. I want to draft him, late. Prolly wont happen now, but I will let my opponent take the risk, while I draft a more proven wide out.

If he falls past the 10th round, which I highly doubt ... he's on my list.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

 

[OG_GF]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love. Keep your options open.

 

[Bri]

Look at your history. Look at what Terrell Owens did in preseason as a rookie, and then look at his rookie year. It's not that great, when you compare it to what he did in pre-season.

I like Thompkins. I want to draft him, late. Prolly wont happen now, but I will let my opponent take the risk, while I draft a more proven wide out.

If he falls past the 10th round, which I highly doubt ... he's on my list.

In the ballpark of 8th-10th who do you like better?

http://football.myfantasyleague.com/2013/adp?COUNT=250&POS=WR&CUTOFF=5&FRANCHISES=-1&IS_PPR=-1&IS_KEEPER=0&IS_MOCK=-1&TIME=

 

[JamesTheScot]

Look at your history. Look at what Terrell Owens did in preseason as a rookie, and then look at his rookie year. It's not that great, when you compare it to what he did in pre-season.

I like Thompkins. I want to draft him, late. Prolly wont happen now, but I will let my opponent take the risk, while I draft a more proven wide out.

If he falls past the 10th round, which I highly doubt ... he's on my list.

So when you draft a more proven player at a similar ADP, you are also drafting a more certain ceiling.

For the rounds in which Thompkins should go, he's just the type of risky player that I'd opt for. He's not going to go for the same price that Lloyd did last year. He should still be considerably cheaper even with this outburst because he's not Brandon Lloyd, right?

But by all means, stand by your point...on the platform...as the train leaves the station.

 

[rickyg]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love. Keep your options open.

What??? No he's not lol

He is saying that people get so caught up in numbers and statistics ( I.e. kenbrell's draft status or lack thereof, and the draft status and college career of all the other highly touted rookies, and they can't see last that long enough to realize that there might be something special here with thompkins...an exception to the rule for undrafted free agents...an aligning of the stars if you will.

 

[Team ROFLCOPTERS]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love.

I know exactly what he's saying

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love.

I know exactly what he's saying, but the the way he constructs his words is purposely over the top.

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times

Nobody talks like this. I'm an engineer as well and my school mates and colleagues are all smart guys. Nobody would dream of putting this into dialogue unless they wanted another person to believe they are smarter than they are.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love. Keep your options open.

Or, on the other hand, he could be saying that playing the odds would have you bet against Thompkins because the odds are against an UDFA beating out higher picks from the same draft class for a starting gig. And the odds are against any rookie WR being fantasy relevant, much moreso for an UDFA.

So then playing the odds would mean you never take on a rookie WR to be a fantasy starter for your team. Except that sometimes they are fantasy relevant. So then the trick is to recognize the exceptions when they are manifesting.

Is Thompkins the exception or the rule? Nothing wrong with betting on him being the rule. But in an field where 65% accuracy is considered top notch, and finishing in the top 25% is usually required to land in the $, gambling on the exception can pay significant dividends.

 

[JamesTheScot]

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love.

I know exactly what he's saying

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times.

I'm a smart guy, but.... what?

I mean, I get it but you might be trying a little hard there buddy.

He's saying the same thing I am. Don't fall in love.

I know exactly what he's saying, but the the way he constructs his words is purposely over the top.

Being a mathematician and an engineer myself, one common flaw I have witnessed in many of my colleagues is that their rigid adherence to statistical mantra does not allow them to recognize the unique event even as it unfolds right before their eyes. They can't break away from their dogma and recognize that the rules governing the universe as a whole may not apply to individual events, that is until the event has actually occurred. An unfortunate trait at times

Nobody talks like this. I'm an engineer as well and my school mates and colleagues are all smart guys. Nobody would dream of putting this into dialogue unless they wanted another person to believe they are smarter than they are.

Why assume that all the intelligent world must communicate like engineers or be guilty of elitism? And he isn't talking. He's writing, and we are reading rather than listening. There is a difference in the two mediums and how we process the information.

I work in a field full of smart people that get paid to sound and read that way. If you don't, the clients question your competency.

If you could understand it, why complain?

 

[HurryUpSundays]

In anticipation of a night like this, I dropped Hartline to pick up KT off waivers before tonights game - redraft.

Next move is to try and trade him.

 

[rickyg]

In anticipation of a night like this, I dropped Hartline to pick up KT off waivers before tonights game - redraft.

Next move is to try and trade him.

I think you'll regret dropping hartline...was there noone else? Hartline is in for a big season. With wallace there to draw double coverahe He should match his 1000 yards and add Tds.

 

[gtudor]

Just did a draft, considering dropping Vincent Brown for him. Thoughts? 10 team standard scoring league.

 

[HurryUpSundays]

In anticipation of a night like this, I dropped Hartline to pick up KT off waivers before tonights game - redraft.

Next move is to try and trade him.

I think you'll regret dropping hartline...was there noone else? Hartline is in for a big season. With wallace there to draw double coverahe He should match his 1000 yards and add Tds.

You might be right. It was either Hartline or Michael Floyd. Super short benches. KT might give me a better return on profit in a trade at this point. I'm a risk taker.

 

[rickyg]

Just did a draft, considering dropping Vincent Brown for him. Thoughts? 10 team standard scoring league.

I wouldn't drop brown for him. Brown is set to be wr1 for sd. He's really good and rivers loves him. I'd find someone else to drop for kt.

Do you have an extra defense? A backup Rb? Backup qb? I'd start there.

 

[JamesTheScot]

In anticipation of a night like this, I dropped Hartline to pick up KT off waivers before tonights game - redraft.

Next move is to try and trade him.

I think you'll regret dropping hartline...was there noone else? Hartline is in for a big season. With wallace there to draw double coverahe He should match his 1000 yards and add Tds.

Whoever was running the deeper routes last year was drawing double coverage. That's what defenses do because on pass plays they have the luxury of extra personnel to do so without much risk of harm. There are 5 lineman and a QB. The defense always has someone available who can double team unless they rush 6 or more. And if they only rush 4 they can double both outside receivers or set up a crowded underneath zone to disrupt those shorter crossing patterns.

I have yet to see a study which proves that adding a guy with better deep speed will reliably result in a better year for the other guy. If anything, the improved fast guy has a better chance of beating the double teams deep or at least beating his corner before the safety can arrive. So Wallace is actually more likely to turn those deeper routes into actual targets in 2013 than was the decoy that ran them last year. So it's hard to say whether it's a net gain or net loss over the course of a season.

That said, I wouldn't have cut Hartline because I think Hartline has a stronger lock on his starting position than does Thompkins and he's probably safely in the top 3 targets for his offense. A bigger piece of a smaller pie can still be larger than a smaller piece of a larger pie.

 

[gtudor]

Just did a draft, considering dropping Vincent Brown for him. Thoughts? 10 team standard scoring league.

I wouldn't drop brown for him. Brown is set to be wr1 for sd. He's really good and rivers loves him. I'd find someone else to drop for kt.

Do you have an extra defense? A backup Rb? Backup qb? I'd start there.

Here's my squad, 8th pick, don't see anyone else I can drop.

QB: RGIII (8th), Romo (9th)RB: Spiller (1st) T. Richardson (2nd) R. Bush (4th) R.Mathews (7th) Hillman (11th) Dwyer (14th)

WR: Cruz (5th) Bowe (6th) M. Austin (10th) K. Britt (12th) V. Brown (13th)

TE: J. Graham (3rd)

K: P. Dawson (15th)

D/ST: Packers (16th)