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Kevin Jones is worthless! (1 Viewer)

Raistlin_Majere

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Not only has he just generally looked like _____ (u fill in the blank), but he has now added the fumble to his repitoire. He's laid the rock down three times (all lost) in three games this year. I thought he would be a nice pick this year as RB2. I have no faith whatsoever in Mike Martz as a football mind though, and I'm 100% positive that the wheels have fallen off in Detroit already. I knew they were not going to light the world on fire as a team, but they were at least on everyones list as a potential sleeper offesne. I dont see it though. A losing football team, an incompetant Offensive coordinator, not to mention a WR mess that is shaky at best. I am going to hopefully use this weeks game to try and build a case for someone to take this waste off of my hands for me. He has to do something against the Rams right? Anyone else hanging on to this guy? Maybe I am overreacting and just showing a little frustration of being 0-3. Just please do something against the Rams Kevin.

 
Not only has he just generally looked like _____ (u fill in the blank), but he has now added the fumble to his repitoire. He's laid the rock down three times (all lost) in three games this year. I thought he would be a nice pick this year as RB2. I have no faith whatsoever in Mike Martz as a football mind though, and I'm 100% positive that the wheels have fallen off in Detroit already. I knew they were not going to light the world on fire as a team, but they were at least on everyones list as a potential sleeper offesne. I dont see it though. A losing football team, an incompetant Offensive coordinator, not to mention a WR mess that is shaky at best. I am going to hopefully use this weeks game to try and build a case for someone to take this waste off of my hands for me. He has to do something against the Rams right? Anyone else hanging on to this guy? Maybe I am overreacting and just showing a little frustration of being 0-3. Just please do something against the Rams Kevin.
 
Not only has he just generally looked like _____ (u fill in the blank), but he has now added the fumble to his repitoire. He's laid the rock down three times (all lost) in three games this year. I thought he would be a nice pick this year as RB2. I have no faith whatsoever in Mike Martz as a football mind though, and I'm 100% positive that the wheels have fallen off in Detroit already. I knew they were not going to light the world on fire as a team, but they were at least on everyones list as a potential sleeper offesne. I dont see it though. A losing football team, an incompetant Offensive coordinator, not to mention a WR mess that is shaky at best. I am going to hopefully use this weeks game to try and build a case for someone to take this waste off of my hands for me. He has to do something against the Rams right? Anyone else hanging on to this guy? Maybe I am overreacting and just showing a little frustration of being 0-3. Just please do something against the Rams Kevin.
Dude, in week 3 he had 125 total yards and a TD. that was good for 18pts and RB 6 in my league. i was happy with that.
 
I got K. Jones as my RB3 behind S. Jax & Edge. So far he has outscored both and is the RB7 in our scoring format (Performance PPR). If you are in a Basic TD league I may see your point but in performance you would be making a big mistake.

Remember that fantasy is not the NFL. I can live with a few fumbles if he gets the rock 25 times. There are so many teams with RBBC that when you can get a bonafide starter it is important.

Lastly, I would love to be in your league & take your RB7 trash.

HOLD ON FOR AWHILE!

 
He ranks 19th through week 3. That's a RB #2 in most leagues. I watched his game against GB & thought he looked good (120 combined yds & a TD certainly ain't "worthless").

 
Worthless might have been stretching, but his only decent performance was against GB. They are not necessarily a powerhouse defense. I forgot to mention that I am in a TD only league in my earlier post, sprry. That is why I am not all that enthused about his, and the whole Lions in general performance this year. His rushing stats have been pedestrian outside of GB, and will need to stay highly involved in the passing game to do anything this year. 12 for 44 (29 on one play ... thats 11 for 15 rest of the way) and 14 for 35 in first two weeks. Given, those were against considerably better defenses than GB in Sea and Chi, but this dude still has me worried.

 
Worthless might have been stretching, but his only decent performance was against GB. They are not necessarily a powerhouse defense. I forgot to mention that I am in a TD only league in my earlier post, sprry. That is why I am not all that enthused about his, and the whole Lions in general performance this year. His rushing stats have been pedestrian outside of GB, and will need to stay highly involved in the passing game to do anything this year. 12 for 44 (29 on one play ... thats 11 for 15 rest of the way) and 14 for 35 in first two weeks. Given, those were against considerably better defenses than GB in Sea and Chi, but this dude still has me worried.
I'm Sprry also. It must be the rest of your team. K.J. is not responsible for you being 0-3 :lmao:
 
Not only has he just generally looked like _____ (u fill in the blank), but he has now added the fumble to his repitoire. He's laid the rock down three times (all lost) in three games this year. I thought he would be a nice pick this year as RB2. I have no faith whatsoever in Mike Martz as a football mind though, and I'm 100% positive that the wheels have fallen off in Detroit already. I knew they were not going to light the world on fire as a team, but they were at least on everyones list as a potential sleeper offesne. I dont see it though. A losing football team, an incompetant Offensive coordinator, not to mention a WR mess that is shaky at best. I am going to hopefully use this weeks game to try and build a case for someone to take this waste off of my hands for me. He has to do something against the Rams right? Anyone else hanging on to this guy? Maybe I am overreacting and just showing a little frustration of being 0-3. Just please do something against the Rams Kevin.
you drafted him high KNOWING that the lions receivers would be AT BEST; Roy Williams, Mike Furrey, and Corey Bradford?? shame on you.
 
i can't speak for touchdown only leagues because i refuse to play in them, just my preference. The fumbles are a fluke as he's been reliable there in the past. yeah the lions suck, but watch the games KJ runs hard nad he catches the ball. the TDs may not be there this year but he's a top 20 in standard leagues. top 10 in PPR (16 catches so far, 19th in NFL). just my thoughts. it should be noted these are the thoughts of a lions fan :bag: and a KJ owner :thumbup:

 
After reading the first post, I was about to say "Kevin Jones is only "worthless" if you're one of the few people who still hasn't graduated from TD-only leagues".

I just wrenched my arm out of its socket trying to pat myself on the back, though. :cry:

 
"td only=waste of time"

Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?

I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.

If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.

 
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
fantasy football also doesnt have leagues where you start offensive lines, why, because its totally different than real footballso you think a guy like barry sanders doesnt win more games than tommy vardell-based on your td logicin 98 barry had 1500 yds and 4 tds vardell had 37 yds and 6 tdsvardell>>>>>>>sanders :lmao:
 
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
fantasy football also doesnt have leagues where you start offensive lines, why, because its totally different than real footballso you think a guy like barry sanders doesnt win more games than tommy vardell-based on your td logicin 98 barry had 1500 yds and 4 tds vardell had 37 yds and 6 tdsvardell>>>>>>>sanders :lmao:
:lmao:
 
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
i like to keep my fantasy football as predictable as possible.
 
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
We did 15 years ago. I remember the good old day, Marion Butts, 4 carries 2 yards, 2 TDs! League MVP!!!
 
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
Great stats don't win games?Tell me, who contributed more to his team's win, the QB who threw 11 straight completions to move the ball 98 yards down to the 1 yard line, or the RB who punched it in on his fourth try after 1st-and-goal from the 1?Who was a greater asset to his team's victory, a guy who rushed 20 times for 250 yards and 1 score, or a guy who rushed 19 times for -17 yards, two lost fumbles, and had a pair of touchdowns?I'm calling :bs: here.
 
62 rushes for 253 yards and 3 TDs

17 receptions for 126 yards

and this game isn't finished. Yeah he sucks...

Considering you probably got him in the 3rd or the 4th, he looks like good value IMO.

ETA: An other TD. :lmao:

 
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I hate to make quick decisions, but I am about to trade away FWP because I have KJ as my RB#2. I don't see why he can't be a solid #2 all year.

 
62 rushes for 253 yards and 3 TDs 17 receptions for 126 yardsand this game isn't finished. Yeah he sucks...Considering you probably got him in the 3rd or the 4th, he looks like good value IMO.ETA: An other TD. :lmao:
:goodposting: Kevin Jones was usually the last RB off the board who wasn't going to be sharing duties at all. I don't get where these sudden high expectations of him came from.
 
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
:no: No offense, but there are several guys like you in my Dynasty League. We've been glued to a TD - heavy scoring format and it's become quite stale. I've been pounding on the table for years to open it up a but every season these codgers with old beanbags garner enough votes to shut down my proposals. These neanderthal's also cling to the notion that "TD's are the only thing that win games"and "I didn't sign up for rotisserie basball". What do they all have in common? They're all over 40 and have been playing FF for over a decade (some 20 + years). In fact, the only reason TD only FF became popular is because it is/was easy to score with a newsapaper, notebook, and pencil. Not to mention the fact that it was the only game around. Look, I'm sure the NFL was a hoot before the forward pass, but who in the hell wants to go back to it. What these guys don't realize is that it's not 1982 anymore. Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability". :X **Full disclosure**I was 13 -2, points champion, and playoff champion in the aforementioned TD-heavy league. I'm 3 - 0 so far this season.Basic offensive scoring:3 pts/50 yards rushing/receiving/6 pt TD's////3 pts/250 yds passing/1pt for each additional 50 yard increment beyonf 250 yards/4 pt. passing TD's.
 
I hate to make quick decisions, but I am about to trade away FWP because I have KJ as my RB#2. I don't see why he can't be a solid #2 all year.
I think FWP is a #1RB all year. Id trade Jones now
I was thinking about playoff schedules (and need an upgrade at WR). I know Willie's is tough...how is KJ's?
14 Dec 10 MIN 15 Dec 17 @ GNB 16 Dec 24 CHI 17 Dec 31 @ DAL
 
I hate to make quick decisions, but I am about to trade away FWP because I have KJ as my RB#2. I don't see why he can't be a solid #2 all year.
I think FWP is a #1RB all year. Id trade Jones now
I was thinking about playoff schedules (and need an upgrade at WR). I know Willie's is tough...how is KJ's?
14 Dec 10 MIN 15 Dec 17 @ GNB 16 Dec 24 CHI 17 Dec 31 @ DAL
Not as easy as I'd hoped...
 
"Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability""

Give me a break. If there's anybody playing Dungeons & Dragons, it's those of you concerned about how many fumbles your QB is going to have this week. I know you pride yourself on your highly accomplished fantasy mind, but predicting stats is no less random than predicting TD's. Sure, you may get points for a guy who doesn't score, but so what? We get points for guys who score but have terrible stats.

TD- only isn't roulette. Is it pure coincidence that the top TD- only players are almost always identical to the top player lists for other scoring formats? Simplicity does not equal stupid my friend, any more than a complicated scoring system equals sophistication.

TD only ain't checkers, but I would expect such arrogant remarks from somebody who believes that requiring computer scoring means that their scoring system requires "skill and practice." Tell me, are these full pads practices?

 
"Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability""

Give me a break. If there's anybody playing Dungeons & Dragons, it's those of you concerned about how many fumbles your QB is going to have this week. I know you pride yourself on your highly accomplished fantasy mind, but predicting stats is no less random than predicting TD's. Sure, you may get points for a guy who doesn't score, but so what? We get points for guys who score but have terrible stats.

TD- only isn't roulette. Is it pure coincidence that the top TD- only players are almost always identical to the top player lists for other scoring formats? Simplicity does not equal stupid my friend, any more than a complicated scoring system equals sophistication.

TD only ain't checkers, but I would expect such arrogant remarks from somebody who believes that requiring computer scoring means that their scoring system requires "skill and practice." Tell me, are these full pads practices?
I agree that the guy's attack on you was entirely unwarrented and made him look like a tool, but I *strongly* disagree with the bolded statement. Statistically speaking, you're going to see a lot more correlation between performance on a game-to-game basis with yards than you are with TDs. That's mostly the result of a drastically larger sample size- if someone scores 6 TDs all year, guessing which game they're going to come in is just that- guessing. 10 times or more you'll get absolutely nothing. With yards, however, you're dealing with 1000 yards over the season, so it's a lot less common to get 0 in a game.You'll also see a much stronger correlation between projections and actual performance when it comes to yards than TDs. It's just a simple fact of life- yards are more predictable than TDs.

 
ydub said:
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
:no: No offense, but there are several guys like you in my Dynasty League. We've been glued to a TD - heavy scoring format and it's become quite stale. I've been pounding on the table for years to open it up a but every season these codgers with old beanbags garner enough votes to shut down my proposals. These neanderthal's also cling to the notion that "TD's are the only thing that win games"and "I didn't sign up for rotisserie basball". What do they all have in common? They're all over 40 and have been playing FF for over a decade (some 20 + years). In fact, the only reason TD only FF became popular is because it is/was easy to score with a newsapaper, notebook, and pencil. Not to mention the fact that it was the only game around. Look, I'm sure the NFL was a hoot before the forward pass, but who in the hell wants to go back to it. What these guys don't realize is that it's not 1982 anymore. Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability". :X **Full disclosure**I was 13 -2, points champion, and playoff champion in the aforementioned TD-heavy league. I'm 3 - 0 so far this season.Basic offensive scoring:3 pts/50 yards rushing/receiving/6 pt TD's////3 pts/250 yds passing/1pt for each additional 50 yard increment beyonf 250 yards/4 pt. passing TD's.
Wow dude, come in off the ledge. It's going to be OK. And to answer all of your questions, yes I feel a little better now. :) Although, I knew this was going to happen against STL. My grandmother could run for 150 and 2 TD's against them. He did look great though, and even based on this performance would consider moving him. He is not going to play STL every week. Having said that, very pleased with the outcome today (although DET still managed to lose even with his efforts). Maybe I just really dont like DET!
 
Just couldn't help responding here. One thing to say - If KJ is killing your team and he is worthless, than the rest of your fantasy roster must be even more worthless! If you have been watching KJ this season, you can see that Martz loves using him and he is a beast that no one wants to tackle. He showed it all today with power, speed and overall skills. I have him with Ronnie Brown and I am happier to have KJ right now than Brown with the way he is playing.

 
ydub said:
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
:no: No offense, but there are several guys like you in my Dynasty League. We've been glued to a TD - heavy scoring format and it's become quite stale. I've been pounding on the table for years to open it up a but every season these codgers with old beanbags garner enough votes to shut down my proposals. These neanderthal's also cling to the notion that "TD's are the only thing that win games"and "I didn't sign up for rotisserie basball". What do they all have in common? They're all over 40 and have been playing FF for over a decade (some 20 + years). In fact, the only reason TD only FF became popular is because it is/was easy to score with a newsapaper, notebook, and pencil. Not to mention the fact that it was the only game around. Look, I'm sure the NFL was a hoot before the forward pass, but who in the hell wants to go back to it. What these guys don't realize is that it's not 1982 anymore. Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability". :X **Full disclosure**I was 13 -2, points champion, and playoff champion in the aforementioned TD-heavy league. I'm 3 - 0 so far this season.Basic offensive scoring:3 pts/50 yards rushing/receiving/6 pt TD's////3 pts/250 yds passing/1pt for each additional 50 yard increment beyonf 250 yards/4 pt. passing TD's.
Jerk. If you don't like the league you are in - one that a MAJORITY of the league's owners enjoys as it is - then quit instead of whining.And screw you and your prejudice against the over-40 crowd.**Full disclosure**I'm 47, play in a wide variety of formats, and don't really give a damn about your champion this or champion that. You're a narrow-minded punk. I hope that by the time you've hit 40 you grow up a little.
 
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Jerk. If you don't like the league you are in - one that a MAJORITY of the league's owners enjoys as it is - then quit instead of whining.

And screw you and your prejudice against the over-40 crowd.

**Full disclosure**

I'm 47, play in a wide variety of formats, and don't really give a damn about your champion this or champion that. You're a narrow-minded punk. I hope that by the time you've hit 40 you grow up a little.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
ydub said:
cliffhuxtible said:
"td only=waste of time"Totally disagree. I think TD only is the only way to go. In the NFL, great stats don't win games, so why should they matter in fantasy football?I love the fact that guys like TD Tommy can contribute. It makes the game more random, and allows for some truly crazy results.If you haven't tried it, give it a try. It can really make things unpredictable.
:no: No offense, but there are several guys like you in my Dynasty League. We've been glued to a TD - heavy scoring format and it's become quite stale. I've been pounding on the table for years to open it up a but every season these codgers with old beanbags garner enough votes to shut down my proposals. These neanderthal's also cling to the notion that "TD's are the only thing that win games"and "I didn't sign up for rotisserie basball". What do they all have in common? They're all over 40 and have been playing FF for over a decade (some 20 + years). In fact, the only reason TD only FF became popular is because it is/was easy to score with a newsapaper, notebook, and pencil. Not to mention the fact that it was the only game around. Look, I'm sure the NFL was a hoot before the forward pass, but who in the hell wants to go back to it. What these guys don't realize is that it's not 1982 anymore. Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability". :X **Full disclosure**I was 13 -2, points champion, and playoff champion in the aforementioned TD-heavy league. I'm 3 - 0 so far this season.Basic offensive scoring:3 pts/50 yards rushing/receiving/6 pt TD's////3 pts/250 yds passing/1pt for each additional 50 yard increment beyonf 250 yards/4 pt. passing TD's.
Jerk. If you don't like the league you are in - one that a MAJORITY of the league's owners enjoys as it is - then quit instead of whining.And screw you and your prejudice against the over-40 crowd.**Full disclosure**I'm 47, play in a wide variety of formats, and don't really give a damn about your champion this or champion that. You're a narrow-minded punk. I hope that by the time you've hit 40 you grow up a little.
Sweet :lmao:
 
ydub said:
:no: No offense, but there are several guys like you in my Dynasty League. We've been glued to a TD - heavy scoring format and it's become quite stale. I've been pounding on the table for years to open it up a but every season these codgers with old beanbags garner enough votes to shut down my proposals. These neanderthal's also cling to the notion that "TD's are the only thing that win games"and "I didn't sign up for rotisserie basball". What do they all have in common? They're all over 40 and have been playing FF for over a decade (some 20 + years). In fact, the only reason TD only FF became popular is because it is/was easy to score with a newsapaper, notebook, and pencil. Not to mention the fact that it was the only game around. Look, I'm sure the NFL was a hoot before the forward pass, but who in the hell wants to go back to it.

What these guys don't realize is that it's not 1982 anymore. Take off the Gandalf hat. Drop your Dungeon Master handbook. It's time to come out of the closet. Your parent's broom closet. It's a brave new world out there. We have computers to handle the fancy arithmetic. There's a game out there similiar(in name) to the FF Tic-Tac-Toe you're used to. It still uses real NFL players but this game requires actual thought. It rewards thorough research and encourages conversation and competition. TD-only FF is roulette to performance based FF's poker. One you can do blindfolded. The other one is constantly evolving, has endless variations, and rewards skill and practice. Me, I prefer checkers to chess. I prefer Risk to Battleship. And I prefer Auction/Dynasty/IDP/Salary Cap/Contract/Formation leagues with a perfomace based scoring system to the arbitrary nature of TD-only leagues. Mike mine all of the above while you bask in the "unpredictability". :X
The bolded part is comedy gold.
 
Jerk. If you don't like the league you are in - one that a MAJORITY of the league's owners enjoys as it is - then quit instead of whining.
This is precisely why I posted my record in the league. Not because I'm a FF prodigy or the Joel Buschbaum of FF. But because I'm the defending champ who's invested 5+ years of time and hard work in the league. That's difficult to walk away from.
And screw you and your prejudice against the over-40 crowd.
Prejudice? I'll have you know that I am friends with a number of individuals over-40 who get around just fine. With the proper guidance and the right assisted care program, people over-40 can lead productive lives. **Full disclosure**
My condolences. Although it's not my area of expertise I know of several quality assisted living facilities. I can also give you the number to some highly regarded live-in nurses. There's no reason why you shouldn't enjoy the twilight of your life.
I play in a wide variety of formats, and don't really give a damn about your champion this or champion that. You're a narrow-minded punk. I hope that by the time you've hit 40 you grow up a little.
"Jerk", "punk", "screw you", "grow up". You're right. I've seen the light. Thanks to you I now know the way and path to enlightenment and have gained a new appreciation for what seniors have to offer.
 
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