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Kevin Jones seems to be done for the year (1 Viewer)

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Jones likely out for rest of season </h1> Monday, December 11, 2006

By Tom Kowalski

DETROIT -- There are already nine players, including five starters, on the Detroit Lions' injured reserve list this season, and that list is likely to grow this week.

Running back Kevin Jones (left ankle) and left guard Ross Verba (groin) both sustained potentially serious injuries in Detroit's 30-20 loss to the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday. While more tests will have to be performed before their status is definitely known, it's possible that both players will be sidelined for the final three games of the season.

"Verba had a pretty severe groin strain," Lions head coach Rod Marinelli said. "Kevin is going to need an MRI and I don't want to talk about it until we get that done."

Two sources close to the situation have confirmed that Jones' injury is symptomatic of a lisfranc fracture, which would likely require surgery. Lisfranc fractures are devastating because the recovery time can be vastly different from case to case and can sometimes take a year or more to completely heal. The Lions are hoping to have a more definitive diagnosis on Jones' injury today. At this point, it's likely Jones won't play again this season.

http://www.mlive.com/lions/stories/index.s....xml&coll=1

 
Let's see... KJ, Portis, Maroney, RBrown, Dunn/Norwood?

Yip, that wipes out my all-star cast of RBs... thank god I can keep 4...

 
(Lis Franc’s) is extremely significant in that it is a commonly missed diagnoses with a great potential for long term disability.

 
my man otis said:
Terrible news if it is in fact a lis franc fracture.

Duce Staley has a lis franc sprain in 2000 and really wasn't the same in 2001.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/StalDu00.htm
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I really hate these threads as this is all speculation! Cmon, we went through this 3 weeks ago. I doubt he is going to be back soon if at all this year, but for us to speculate that he possibly may not be able to go next year is stupid! Didn't Westbrook have this last year, and he came back fine. There are soooo many different levels of this if that is what it actually is. Can we all wait until we panic!
 
kncks12 said:
my man otis said:
Terrible news if it is in fact a lis franc fracture.

Duce Staley has a lis franc sprain in 2000 and really wasn't the same in 2001.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/StalDu00.htm
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I really hate these threads as this is all speculation! Cmon, we went through this 3 weeks ago. I doubt he is going to be back soon if at all this year, but for us to speculate that he possibly may not be able to go next year is stupid! Didn't Westbrook have this last year, and he came back fine. There are soooo many different levels of this if that is what it actually is. Can we all wait until we panic!
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agree. the MRI results aren't even in yet. assume he's gone for the rest of the season (def the FF season) and take a deep breath.
 
Da Guru said:
The replay of KJs injury looked really nasty. :eek:
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They all looked bad. I thought Al Wilson was going to be buried that one week. Heck, even something that looks like nothing is even more serious (like McNabb's knee, can't see how that happened).
 
Dammit KJ.

Does anyone know if C. Taylor is out for more than just last week? If Arlen Harris isn't a good play, what about Pinner for the next couple weeks?

Ron Dayne has had two decent weeks in a row, rushing-wise... what about him for the next two weeks?

Team's falling apart... Is Ronnie Brown going to play this week or next?

:cry: :cry:

 
My understanding is that you can tell an obvious Lis Franc injury because the bones on the top of the foot are not spaced properly and are not in the right positions. The misdiagnosed Lis Franc injuries are the ones that requre an MRI to show the separation under the top bones. Since the news came out quickly I am assuming it is a visible Lis Franc injury and I am not expecting KJ back this year. It's a real shame because he was putting together a nice rebound season but for the injuries.

I would expect Chester Taylor to play this week and the rest of the season.

I actually picked up Dayne and dropped KJ.

Ronnie Brown should play this week, based on what I have been hearing and reading.

 
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jim k said:
My understanding is that you can tell an obvious Lis Franc injury because the bones on the top of the foot are not spaced properly and are not in the right positions. The misdiagnosed Lis Franc injuries are the ones that requre an MRI to show the separation under the top bones. Since the news came out quickly I am assuming it is a visible Lis Franc injury and I am not expecting KJ back this year. It's a real shame because he was putting together a nice rebound season but for the injuries.I would expect Chester Taylor to play this week and the rest of the season.I actually picked up Dayne and dropped KJ.Ronnie Brown should play this week, based on what I have been hearing and reading.
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I hope Brown plays this weekend, I need him to replace KJ. Dayne is a possible start if Brown doesn't play.It is a shame about KJ, he was really flourishing in Martz's system. I hope he can come back next season.
 
OMG, he will be back, not this year, but the future. People come back from ACL's in less than a year, he will be back. My goodness!

Jayrok said:
jim k said:
My understanding is that you can tell an obvious Lis Franc injury because the bones on the top of the foot are not spaced properly and are not in the right positions. The misdiagnosed Lis Franc injuries are the ones that requre an MRI to show the separation under the top bones. Since the news came out quickly I am assuming it is a visible Lis Franc injury and I am not expecting KJ back this year. It's a real shame because he was putting together a nice rebound season but for the injuries.I would expect Chester Taylor to play this week and the rest of the season.I actually picked up Dayne and dropped KJ.Ronnie Brown should play this week, based on what I have been hearing and reading.
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I hope Brown plays this weekend, I need him to replace KJ. Dayne is a possible start if Brown doesn't play.It is a shame about KJ, he was really flourishing in Martz's system. I hope he can come back next season.
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sounds like r.brown will do the exact opposite of play:

rotoworld -- Dolphins head coach Nick Saban indicated Monday that Ronnie Brown (hand) and Daunte Culpepper (knee) are both likely to miss Week 15.

Saban says he isn't counting on Culpepper to be back this year. Brown will again be replaced by Sammy Morris, who ran for 123 yards and a TD in what appeared a poor matchup vs. New England on Sunday. Morris makes for a borderline RB2 start against Buffalo in Week 15.

Source: Palm Beach Post

 
:cry:

I sure hope Chester is back next week for me. I've been starting 3 RBs all season (1 as a flex) and they've typically been Westbrook, Jones and Taylor. I might get a good enough game next week out of MJD to replace one of them, but I might be in trouble if Chester doesn't play again.

 
AP reporting he's definitely out next week:

Lions RB Kevin Jones could be done for the seasonDecember 11, 2006ALLEN PARK, Mich. (AP) -- Detroit Lions running back Kevin Jones will not play at Green Bay on Sunday, and team officials are concerned his foot injury could keep him out a lot longer.Jones injured his left foot late in Sunday's 30-20 loss to the Minnesota Vikings and was undergoing testing on Monday. He may have a fracture/dislocation of the foot, an injury that kept linebacker Teddy Lehman on the sidelines for nearly 12 months.ADVERTISEMENT"That was frustrating, because it was almost a complete year before I played football again," Lehman said Monday. "If that's what Kevin has, all I can tell him is to keep working, even when you feel like it will never get better."The injury involves a key ligament in the top of the foot."It's not like a knee where the ligament is holding a couple bones together," Lehman said. "There are a lot of small bones in that part of the foot and that keeps them together."Jones has blossomed in Mike Martz's offense, rushing for 689 yards and catching a career-high 61 passes for 520 yards. He has eight touchdowns, including a career-best six on the ground."He's a tremendous player," Lions coach Rod Marinelli said. "If he's going to be out for an extended period, we would obviously have to alter our plans for the future."Jones' teammates knew that a 2-11 season could get even worse without their most consistent offensive threat."That's a huge loss," tight end Dan Campbell said. "Look at everything he does for us and the way he has flourished this year."
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Quite honestly, it sounds like it's just a formality before they announce he's out for the season. Waiting to see exactly what the injury is before they go ahead and announce and put him on IR. I can't see any reason at all they'd rush him back, to play either of the last 2 weeks for a 2-11 or whatever team. So unless you have a game week 17 you're hoping he'd be back for, it really looks bad. My season in a redraft ends next week and rosters are a bit tight, so I flat out dropped him for Harris.
 
The Lions must see something that gives them significant concern regarding this injury. Yet, I'll wait for the official diognosis before I drive my car over a cliff! Until then, I'm hoping SJax and Rudi can carry me to the top!

But I don't see the Lion's drafting RB. They have KJ coming back and they have a heck of a back in Calhoun (assuming Calhoun can come back healthy next season). I think they give him a shot while they wait for KJ to heal, getting an O-lineman or 2 out of the high draft pick. But of course, everyone knows that they'll draft WR.

 
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Rev said:
The Lions must see something that gives them significant concern regarding this injury. Yet, I'll wait for the official diognosis before I drive my car over a cliff! Until then, I'm hoping SJax and Rudi can carry me to the top!But I don't see the Lion's drafting RB. They have KJ coming back and they have a heck of a back in Calhoun (assuming Calhoun can come back healthy next season). I think they give him a shot while they wait for KJ to heal, getting an O-lineman or 2 out of the high draft pick. But of course, everyone knows that they'll draft WR.
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Westbrook had the same injury. You people are amazing by trying to predict if he is going to be out next year. Cmon! Palmer was the same way. Stop!!! They aren't drafting an RB are you kiddin me! They never would do that, they have so many needs and WR or RB won't be where they look.
 
True, Westbrook had the same injury and recovered in about half a year, but there are also numerous examples of players that have not been 100% after even a full year. The Blogger article is a great example. Hopefully that won't be the case and Jones will be back from his injury in time for the preseason, but its not unreasonable to expect the worst and discuss what options are available. Unfortunately its also not unreasonable to expect the Lions to take another WR given the recent draft history... :kicksrock: hate being a Lions fan...

 
MLive.com has confirmed that Kevin Jones has a "full blown" Lisfranc fracture/dislocation that will take at least six months to recover from.

He will have surgery in the next 3-5 days, which shows that this injury is more serious than similar injuries that Brian Westbrook and Brian Dawkins had earlier in their careers. It's a fracture, not a sprain. Some estimates say that it could take a year to fully recover. Dec. 11 - 5:24 pm et

Source: MLive.com

 
JohnnyU said:
MLive.com has confirmed that Kevin Jones has a "full blown" Lisfranc fracture/dislocation that will take at least six months to recover from.

He will have surgery in the next 3-5 days, which shows that this injury is more serious than similar injuries that Brian Westbrook and Brian Dawkins had earlier in their careers. It's a fracture, not a sprain. Some estimates say that it could take a year to fully recover. Dec. 11 - 5:24 pm et

Source: MLive.com
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:wall: Awesome. :wall:
 
With all these guys coming back from ACLs in less than a year, I'm not too worried about KJ for 2007. Medical science is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was even 5 or 10 years ago. Lis Franc sure is a scary injury though..

 
Shooter McGavin said:
Swing 51 said:
So is it the Arlen Harris show from here on out?
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Again, when Jones was out against Miami, Harris and Cason split carries. Harris was in for short yardage, though he couldn't punch it in the time I recall when they were near the goal line.
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Shooter, where do you get this from?The lions only ran 10 times against Miami with Harris getting 8 of those carries.

The week before when KJ got hurt vs. AZ - 14 carries total, 10 were Harris

They seemed to split time on passing downs, but I'm not sure.

Based on the carries in the 1+ games KJ missed I'd have to say it's Harris as the #1 with Cason the 3rd down back, maybe.

 
my man otis said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Swing 51 said:
So is it the Arlen Harris show from here on out?
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Again, when Jones was out against Miami, Harris and Cason split carries. Harris was in for short yardage, though he couldn't punch it in the time I recall when they were near the goal line.
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Shooter, where do you get this from?The lions only ran 10 times against Miami with Harris getting 8 of those carries.

The week before when KJ got hurt vs. AZ - 14 carries total, 10 were Harris

They seemed to split time on passing downs, but I'm not sure.

Based on the carries in the 1+ games KJ missed I'd have to say it's Harris as the #1 with Cason the 3rd down back, maybe.
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Too risky to even be discussing IMO. I don't know a single league that doesn't have playoffs in week 15. Can you really risk playing one of these guys even if it's against GB? And then they have CHI the following week. Det RB's are done for the year. Here's to hoping KJ will be OK for 07. I love watching this guy run.
 
avoiding injuries said:
my man otis said:
Shooter McGavin said:
Swing 51 said:
So is it the Arlen Harris show from here on out?
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Again, when Jones was out against Miami, Harris and Cason split carries. Harris was in for short yardage, though he couldn't punch it in the time I recall when they were near the goal line.
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Shooter, where do you get this from?The lions only ran 10 times against Miami with Harris getting 8 of those carries.

The week before when KJ got hurt vs. AZ - 14 carries total, 10 were Harris

They seemed to split time on passing downs, but I'm not sure.

Based on the carries in the 1+ games KJ missed I'd have to say it's Harris as the #1 with Cason the 3rd down back, maybe.
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Too risky to even be discussing IMO. I don't know a single league that doesn't have playoffs in week 15. Can you really risk playing one of these guys even if it's against GB? And then they have CHI the following week. Det RB's are done for the year. Here's to hoping KJ will be OK for 07. I love watching this guy run.
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If you lost KJ and probably Addai this week it does matter. I'm looking at one of Harris, Cason or even Griffith this week.Anyone with any insight?

 
i'm steering far from the Det situation. for one thing, they're not a great running team anyway. KJones got half his points in the passing game, where harris is better suited to play. cason may be a better runner (actually, i MAY have them flip-flopped, but i know their roles are pretty set), so he's in on 1st and 2nd down, where i expect him to have a marginal impact.

if i can get word that dunn and norwood are both out, griffith should be a decent play. i may have a shot at picking up artose pinner on waivers too, so that's an option. ron dayne may actually be the best play of all (did i just say that????) up against NE and IND the next two weeks.

point is, they're all better options than cason or harris, in my opinion.

 
I tend towards Cason over Harris simply based on what I've read and Harris' production when he had a crack at it. Of course this year it doesn't seem to make much difference as whoever has been the logical choice to fill in has done jack while someone we didn't expect blows up...

Not sure re: Griffith. I'm waiting to see more about the injuries to Dunn and Norwood. We may wind up with a fairly even 2-way or 3-way split...just my gut feeling...

 
Per Fanball:

Lions: Jones might miss 2007

12/12/06 11:01 AM

THE NEWS

Lions running back Kevin Jones was diagnosed with a Lisfranc fracture/dislocation in his left foot, which will most likely require surgery. "This is bad," Jones told the Detroit Free Press on Monday. "It's just that I need to make sure what doctor I'm going to use, just get another opinion on what's going on." There is speculation that he will miss training camp and perhaps the entire 2007 season.

Our View

Jones' teammate Teddy Lehman was sidelined for an entire year while recovering from the same surgery. Obviously, this does not bode well for Jones' keeper league owners. Although nothing is official, there's a good chance he will miss a significant portion, if not all, of the 2007 season.

 
kensat30 said:
With all these guys coming back from ACLs in less than a year, I'm not too worried about KJ for 2007. Medical science is leaps and bounds ahead of where it was even 5 or 10 years ago. Lis Franc sure is a scary injury though..
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The reports got the jist of it, but the Lis Franc injury is not very common at all, where an ACL is. Rehab protocal for the ACL is encrypted in the back of my head. Honestly I would not know where to begin with a Lis Franc dislocation/fracture, how long it will ake to heal before rehab or anything. I'm not a medical professional for the NFL, but it seems this is much harder to plan for, and advancement in surgical proceedures may not be as adanced as the ACL reconstruction.B. Westbrook had a Lis Franc sprain and not a full blown out dislocation or fracture. He sat out last year for the sole purpose that it did not get to that level. He probably could have played, but didn't for that reason.
 
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