Joe Summer
Footballguy
I think I'd rather have the #1 WR in Chicago than a guy that was just signed yesterday off the street. For another week, at least.
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The drafted LeShoure and expected him to be their second back. Morris was adequate for an emegency third back and the price was right.
sandlotshrink
Footballguy
Assuming the weather forecast for todays game is accurate and the wind limits the passing game, does anyone expect Smith to get called upon earlier than expected?
Sudoku_in_the_Bathtub
Footballguy
The backups (i.e. the previously unowned) always get more love here at FBG.
Smith is Morris insurance.
Smith is Morris insurance.
Craig_MiamiFL
Footballguy
I know the lions are getting blown out, but Smith has been in the whole second half. He's not getting touches to speak of, but just interesting that he is the guy protecting stafford since every down is a passing down. Don't want to read anything into it, i suppose they are just getting him some work, but all other starters are in.
Smith quite heavily involved in the game today, considering he was just signed this week. He appears to have already jumped Keiland Williams on the depth chart, and is at worst, the #2 RB for the Lions now. He is also being trusted at protecting Stafford on passsing downs.
4 rush 19 yards 2rec 10 yards
This was the part that caught my eye. A rb that can protect the qb is an rb to keep an eye on. Again, dont want to read too much into this one half, but i smell a kevin smith resurgence if in fact best is out. Remember smith caught 40 balls as the starter with the lions, so hes capable of running and being in on 3rd downs as well.
Scrappy Doo
Footballguy
One thing's for sure - the Lions are going to need to find a running game if they want to make a playoff push.
And as far as Kevin Smith playing right away, it must have been b/c he's already totally familiar with this offense. They wouldn't have put him in there protecting Stafford if they weren't sure he knew the blitz protections. Remember, he has already been the feature back in this offense.
He looked rusty out there to me but.......
........it's not hard to imagine that he can be better than MoMo going forward.
And as far as Kevin Smith playing right away, it must have been b/c he's already totally familiar with this offense. They wouldn't have put him in there protecting Stafford if they weren't sure he knew the blitz protections. Remember, he has already been the feature back in this offense.
He looked rusty out there to me but.......
........it's not hard to imagine that he can be better than MoMo going forward.
jantoniosus
Footballguy
is this dude worth dropping Battle or GJGE for? Both of which are on my pine and occasionally flex. I do agree that DET needs to get a running game going and if this guy is it, it would help since I have Stafford as QB. Stafford cannot keep throwing the ball as much.
I'm also considering dropping battle. Battles upside is not high and is not in my starting lineup. Kevin smith could be that late playoff Jerome Harrison/Jamaal Charles pickup of years past. Or he can sit on my bench a few weeks and wait for the next add...
Phenix
Footballguy
you are aware they are down both there young RBs that they came into the season with right?how can you all of a sudden replace both your starters to the same effectivness?they have no running game, you cant force whats not there.
Personally, I'm a Best owner and never bothered trying to pick up Morris in the first place. I picked up Smith the first moment I heard he was signed. Yeah, I'd drop Morris unless I was desperate for MoMo's solid 6-8 points a game. More upside with Smith IMO. Morris is a known quantity.
Matt Waldman of FBG's waiver report today. This is what he had to say about Kevin Smith.
1. Kevin Smith, Lions: Smith is my top running back addition of the week for two reasons. First, Smith is the most talented feature back of the bunch that as an opportunity to take the starting job. Second, the rest of these backs with a starting opportunity are on offenses that generally look as bad as the Lions did on Sunday. Smith impressed Jim Schwartz this week with his quickness and fitness level in a workout where the Lions claim they weren't even seeking a runner. Smith is only 24 years old and he was one of the more talented backs in a 2008 draft class of RBs that might be one of the best in many years. Maurice Morris is a reliable option in terms of knowing the plays, blocking, and catching, but he's a pedestrian runner. Keiland Williams is a one-speed talent with size and very little agility with the ball in his hands. Smith had 6 touches for 29 yards in a blowout loss, but the fact he already earned time just days after his workout should tell you that the Lions like what they saw from him and will give their former first-day pick a shot to earn more significant opportunities. If I need a starter or good flex-play and my only option was the waiver wire, Smith is the back I'm going to take a crack at landing unless Frank Gore's knee injury is far worse than a one-week issue.
1. Kevin Smith, Lions: Smith is my top running back addition of the week for two reasons. First, Smith is the most talented feature back of the bunch that as an opportunity to take the starting job. Second, the rest of these backs with a starting opportunity are on offenses that generally look as bad as the Lions did on Sunday. Smith impressed Jim Schwartz this week with his quickness and fitness level in a workout where the Lions claim they weren't even seeking a runner. Smith is only 24 years old and he was one of the more talented backs in a 2008 draft class of RBs that might be one of the best in many years. Maurice Morris is a reliable option in terms of knowing the plays, blocking, and catching, but he's a pedestrian runner. Keiland Williams is a one-speed talent with size and very little agility with the ball in his hands. Smith had 6 touches for 29 yards in a blowout loss, but the fact he already earned time just days after his workout should tell you that the Lions like what they saw from him and will give their former first-day pick a shot to earn more significant opportunities. If I need a starter or good flex-play and my only option was the waiver wire, Smith is the back I'm going to take a crack at landing unless Frank Gore's knee injury is far worse than a one-week issue.
cmon man....
JoeyJoeJoeJr
Footballguy
This. I also never picked up MoMo. Kevin Smith is only 24, and only a couple years removed from being a feature back. If he is back to full health, he's well worth a roster spot.
It's still Kevin Smith, a former featured back for the Lions who's 24, impressed the head coach that they couldn't help but sign him and is going against the Carolina Panthers in week 11.
Yes, it's still Kevin Smith....a guy that wasn't on ANY team all year before the Lions picked him up off the street. Why is that? Maybe he's just not as good as he once was?Like I said, he could be a nice fill-in player here and there but I wouldn't go crazy trying to get him. Some people in this thread act like he'll be the next Demarco Murray type pick up.
It's still Kevin Smith...a guy that was just picked up off the street and has already passed Keiland Williams on the depth chart. Only Maurice Morris stands in his way to be featured again in a high potent offense. Oh and the Lions face the Carolina Panthers in week 11.
Why is that? because nobody gave him a chance except New England in preseason, when they already have BJGE, Woodhead, Ridley, Vereen, Faulk, etc. they had no need for him. The pats always work out guys for no real reason. so maybe he is not as good as he once was, its a low/risk, huge/reward type of pickup is what people like and opportunity
Okay, and WHY did nobody give him a chance? There were obviously other teams that could have used another RB, why didn't they give him the chance? Heck, why didn't Detroit sign him right after Leshoure went down? <--- Fantasy stud right here.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Classic late-season overreaction going on in here. Smith's upside is being in a RBBC with MoMo.
If Morris had been ineffective up to this point I'd be more excited about Smith, but he's actually done okay back there. I don't see Schwartz benching MoMo any time soon. KSmith will earn some time in the rotation, but he'd have to REALLY impress to just outright steal the gig from Morris and become a feature back. I think we have some classic late-season overreacting going on in here. That blowout game against the Bears was just a good opportunity for Schwartz to get Smith back up to speed with some game action - don't read too much into his usage.
Now, all of that said, he'll still be one of my top WW claims this week because he's obviously a decent lotto ticket and there's not much else out there... But c'mon, he'd have to look FANTASTIC to make MoMo irrelevant in that backfield. Barring an injury or KSmith going nuts, we're probably looking at a committee guy here. Whoop-dee-doo.
If Morris had been ineffective up to this point I'd be more excited about Smith, but he's actually done okay back there. I don't see Schwartz benching MoMo any time soon. KSmith will earn some time in the rotation, but he'd have to REALLY impress to just outright steal the gig from Morris and become a feature back. I think we have some classic late-season overreacting going on in here. That blowout game against the Bears was just a good opportunity for Schwartz to get Smith back up to speed with some game action - don't read too much into his usage.
Now, all of that said, he'll still be one of my top WW claims this week because he's obviously a decent lotto ticket and there's not much else out there... But c'mon, he'd have to look FANTASTIC to make MoMo irrelevant in that backfield. Barring an injury or KSmith going nuts, we're probably looking at a committee guy here. Whoop-dee-doo.
did u even read the other posts in the thread, why pay him the money he was getting as a backup when they have momo for cheap. why do teams pass up on certain guys, who knows. but sometimes due dilligance isnt made. self proclaimed "fantasy stud"
jwb
Footballguy
Why did the Giants trade Ryan Grant a few years ago?Why was L Blount cut a few times?
Heck, why didn't Detroit sign him right after Leshoure went down?
<--- Fantasy stud right here.
Why did nobody draft A Foster?
Why did the Jets let Woodhead go last year when they clearly could have used him?
Nobody can clearly answer the "why didn't they" question, except to say that these things happen all the time. NFL coaches and personnel people make mistakes, miss opportunities, etc. Also, many times, money and contracts play into decisions (or non decisions).
Really, you can use the "if he was so good, then why didn't..." argument with almost any ww/fa pickup.
Why did the Giants trade Ryan Grant a few years ago?Why was L Blount cut a few times?
Heck, why didn't Detroit sign him right after Leshoure went down?
<--- Fantasy stud right here.
Why did nobody draft A Foster?
Why did the Jets let Woodhead go last year when they clearly could have used him?
Nobody can clearly answer the "why didn't they" question, except to say that these things happen all the time. NFL coaches and personnel people make mistakes, miss opportunities, etc. Also, many times, money and contracts play into decisions (or non decisions).
Really, you can use the "if he was so good, then why didn't..." argument with almost any ww/fa pickup.
you keep asking why didnt they? do you have any information from coaches or players that say he is done or washed up? no, didnt think so. so unless you can tell us why, the question is pointless without any validity from other coaches players etcOkay, so why do a bunch of internet fantasy Kevin Smith fanboys think he'll be a great RB when pretty much EVERY team in the league didn't want his services? Why should all of these internet fanboys (yeah, I'm talking about you guys) know more than the actual teams that have either called him in to try out (Patriots) or saw enough on tape to see that he just isn't that good and isn't worth a try out?The teams know more about this guy than you do. Quit acting like he'll come out of no where and dominate.Why did the Giants trade Ryan Grant a few years ago?Why was L Blount cut a few times?
Heck, why didn't Detroit sign him right after Leshoure went down?
<--- Fantasy stud right here.
Why did nobody draft A Foster?
Why did the Jets let Woodhead go last year when they clearly could have used him?
Nobody can clearly answer the "why didn't they" question, except to say that these things happen all the time. NFL coaches and personnel people make mistakes, miss opportunities, etc. Also, many times, money and contracts play into decisions (or non decisions).
Really, you can use the "if he was so good, then why didn't..." argument with almost any ww/fa pickup.
<----- Fantasy stud right here.
jwb
Footballguy
You're overreacting. There's a scant few thinking he's actually going to be some kind of stud/etc. Most of us are saying he's an interesting add that has some potential because he's been there before, he's performed moderately well while there, and has a pretty clear path to start. That's it.Okay, so why do a bunch of internet fantasy Kevin Smith fanboys think he'll be a great RB when pretty much EVERY team in the league didn't want his services? Why should all of these internet fanboys (yeah, I'm talking about you guys) know more than the actual teams that have either called him in to try out (Patriots) or saw enough on tape to see that he just isn't that good and isn't worth a try out?The teams know more about this guy than you do. Quit acting like he'll come out of no where and dominate.Why did the Giants trade Ryan Grant a few years ago?Why was L Blount cut a few times?
Heck, why didn't Detroit sign him right after Leshoure went down?
<--- Fantasy stud right here.
Why did nobody draft A Foster?
Why did the Jets let Woodhead go last year when they clearly could have used him?
Nobody can clearly answer the "why didn't they" question, except to say that these things happen all the time. NFL coaches and personnel people make mistakes, miss opportunities, etc. Also, many times, money and contracts play into decisions (or non decisions).
Really, you can use the "if he was so good, then why didn't..." argument with almost any ww/fa pickup.
<----- Fantasy stud right here.
Kevin Smith is a solid sleeper and we all know it. The Lions can't continue to put the game on Stafford's shoulders. He has a broken finger and threw 4 ints yesterday. Kevin Smith will be the starter soon. And that's the angle everyone should be looking at. It's all about opportunity. About 60 - 70 total yards and a chance of a TD per game. Low end RB2, solid flex on a great offense. Oh, and the Lions play the Carolina Panthers in week 11.Okay, so why do a bunch of internet fantasy Kevin Smith fanboys think he'll be a great RB when pretty much EVERY team in the league didn't want his services? Why should all of these internet fanboys (yeah, I'm talking about you guys) know more than the actual teams that have either called him in to try out (Patriots) or saw enough on tape to see that he just isn't that good and isn't worth a try out?The teams know more about this guy than you do. Quit acting like he'll come out of no where and dominate.Why did the Giants trade Ryan Grant a few years ago?Why was L Blount cut a few times?
Heck, why didn't Detroit sign him right after Leshoure went down?
<--- Fantasy stud right here.
Why did nobody draft A Foster?
Why did the Jets let Woodhead go last year when they clearly could have used him?
Nobody can clearly answer the "why didn't they" question, except to say that these things happen all the time. NFL coaches and personnel people make mistakes, miss opportunities, etc. Also, many times, money and contracts play into decisions (or non decisions).
Really, you can use the "if he was so good, then why didn't..." argument with almost any ww/fa pickup.
<----- Fantasy stud right here.
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otb_lifer
Footballguy
There is one back on that roster capable of great numbers in that offense, and he is shelved with a concussion. This is not like assuming lead back status in Oakland/San Fran/Houston ... this is not a great run block offense.
IF indeed Smith took the reins, then I can see him doing no better with the workload than Morris did a couple weeks ago in Denver. Again, only Best has the chops to excel as the feature back there, due to his explosiveness in space. The other 3 just don't have that gear, no matter how much one wants to envision it because one snagged a potential "stud" ... nothing much to see here, except an even murkier sitch on the horizon.
IF indeed Smith took the reins, then I can see him doing no better with the workload than Morris did a couple weeks ago in Denver. Again, only Best has the chops to excel as the feature back there, due to his explosiveness in space. The other 3 just don't have that gear, no matter how much one wants to envision it because one snagged a potential "stud" ... nothing much to see here, except an even murkier sitch on the horizon.
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
You didn't watch the game did you? The INTs were the result of Lions being down 3 tds with the combination of Stafford's finger.
I did watch the game. And with Stafford's finger issue is the very reason why I believe the Lions will run the ball in week 11 vs the Carolina Panthers, the worst run def in the league. Kevin Smith makes a flex play and can take over as the featured back in this game.
Colt Of Personality
Footballguy
At this point I'll roll the dice on Kevin Smith... He can't do any worse than LeGarrette Blount! 
LargeMouthBass
Footballguy
<-----------Just a Stud right here (not Fantasy)
I would still start Blount over Smith. But in deep leagues Smith makes a great flex play in week 11.At this point I'll roll the dice on Kevin Smith... He can't do any worse than LeGarrette Blount!
Colt Of Personality
Footballguy
The Bucs play the Packers IN Green Bay next weekend. This is how its gonna go down:Packers first 2 posessions Aaron Rodgers throws 2 TD's and the Pack lead the Bucs 14-0.I would still start Blount over Smith. But in deep leagues Smith makes a great flex play in week 11.At this point I'll roll the dice on Kevin Smith... He can't do any worse than LeGarrette Blount!
Blount is never heard from again. Stat line 10 carries for 37 yards.
Sorry, I've seen this story too many times this year. Maybe I'll dust off Blount against the Panthers in a few weeks.
zamboni
Footballguy
Same issue, except substitute Blount for Wells/DWill/Battle. :(That's what the season has come to, when you contemplate starting a guy who was watching games in his pajamas until this past Sunday.But I digress...At this point I'll roll the dice on Kevin Smith... He can't do any worse than LeGarrette Blount!
They were not down 3 TDs until Stafford started throwing pick 6's. The interceptions were directly responsible for a lead turning into a blowout. Morris was doing OK but not a major threat.The Lions desperately need an option other than Calvin. If anyone can step up an be that option they should be used. In my opinion, Smith is not a single threat feature back like Peterson but he is talented enough to make teams respect the run.I could see the Lions trying to use both Smith and Morris against Carolina and a quiet day for Stafford. If Carolina starts pulling away like the Bears did I see the same think happening again.
Keiland Williams averaged 10 carries per game when he was #2 on the depth chart. Kevin Smith has already passed him up. So if he gets 10 carries plus a couple of catches in week 11 vs the Panthers he will have an opportunity to show what he's got against the worst run defense in the league. Another plus is the game is at home on the astro turf.
