This makes sense to me. I understand the money that teams are throwing around and discussing is in the veteran minimum range. He thinks he's worth more. Keyshawn Johnson has options past football. Wouldn't surprise me at all to see him walk.From the Daily Email Update last week:Expect a press conference later today. No link. Cohen, who is a good friend of Keyshawn, broke into the Bob Poppa/Randy Cross show on Sirius to break the story.
JTEN - HC Fisher Confirms Interest In WR Keyshawn JohnsonSource: Associated Press via Sports IllustratedThe Tennessee Titans said Thursday they are interested in veteran Keyshawn Johnson, this coming after Keyshawn expressed interest in them. "There's mutual interest I'd say right now," HC Jeff Fisher said. "I think we'll probably look into the possibility of pursuing things. Where that goes, I can't tell you." [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ [ OUR VIEW ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ] ]Johnson will visit Tennessee on Friday. The trouble looks to be that most teams that have been in contact with Johnson are reportedly talking about a contract in the veteran minimum range. Johnson feels he's worth much more than that. If the Titans (or anyone else) won't offer a contract more in line with what Johnson feels he's due, many feel that the WR would happily walk away. He's a talented guy and could easily have a career in broadcasting if he desired. Stay tuned to see how it goes in Tennessee.
maybe he should have taken the contract. while he was better than irvin at the draft, it's all relative. ANYONE would have been be better than irvin. i would rather listen to fingernails on a chalkboard than irvin. retiring makes sense though. meshawn never did have any heart. he got by on his talent, and never did work at his craft.According to Cohen, Tennessee offered him a contract but he turned it down and took a job with ESPN/ABC.
Hmmm... let's see put my 34-35 year body through another NFL season for veteran minimum or while probably less money, but still very good money to sit around and yuck it up about other people destroying their bodies. Easy choice here.maybe he should have taken the contract. while he was better than irvin at the draft, it's all relative. ANYONE would have been be better than irvin. i would rather listen to fingernails on a chalkboard than irvin. retiring makes sense though. meshawn never did have any heart. he got by on his talent, and never did work at his craft.According to Cohen, Tennessee offered him a contract but he turned it down and took a job with ESPN/ABC.
He was one of the best blocking WR's in the league. He was always willing to go in the middle. He was a drama queen at times, but he definitely had heart. Retiring at this stage of his career was a smart business move.meshawn never did have any heart. he got by on his talent, and never did work at his craft.According to Cohen, Tennessee offered him a contract but he turned it down and took a job with ESPN/ABC.
I heard in real money it was not worth very much, there is no way Johnson would have seen the second year.Actually, Tenn apparently offered him $7-$8 million over 2 years, and he was quite tempted to take it, but ESPN made him an offer he couldn't refuse. (Translation: he worked the Tenn offer into a great deal from ESPN). As a Titans fan, I'm disappointed, but I am glad to see that the front office at least made him a good offer to try to land him (instead of low-balling him). He is clearly ready to be a broadcaster and was worried the ESPN deal would not be thre for him next year or the year after.
I think that's absolutely a possibility. If a true contender suffers a major injury and inquires about his services, it's not illogical to think he would consider it.Maybe a foolish question, but is there any real chance that he gets an NFL offer more to his liking as the summer drags on? I don't want to drop him until I'm sure he's not playing at all in 2007.
Cool. That's kinda what I was thinking. I'll plan to roster him until late summer and see how it plays out. Thanks.I think that's absolutely a possibility. If a true contender suffers a major injury and inquires about his services, it's not illogical to think he would consider it.Maybe a foolish question, but is there any real chance that he gets an NFL offer more to his liking as the summer drags on? I don't want to drop him until I'm sure he's not playing at all in 2007.
I remember him bad mouthing MH also. Meshawn Johnson was an average WR who was good at blocking and willing to catch the ball over the middle. I don't like the guy because he always felt he was more then the team itself and it showed in Tampa bay with Gruden, his comments about Wayne Chrebet and his contract grumbles with the Jets.I'll never forget when Keyshawn was with Tampa Bay and ABC had him miked up for Monday Night Football. As the Bucs were destroying the Colts in the first half, he jealously badmouthed Marvin Harrison on the sideline.Everyone should know the rest of the story by now. Marvin, preferring to let his play do his talking (as usual), went crazy in the second half as the Colts completed one of the most exciting comebacks in NFL history. And Keyshawn was in the lockerroom thinking the Bucs already had the game in hand.This will be my lasting memory of Keyshawn Johnson -- jealous and forever inferior to Marvin Harrison.
A dime a dozen? I don't think the Titans would agree with you. They are the big losers here. Having a guy catch 80 balls for 900 yards with around 7 td's and is a solid blocker would be a god send for Vince Young. Without a possesion WR, Young will likely struggle. His WR corp has to be the worst in the NFL. What a disaster for Fisher.Da Guru said:Smart move by Johnson.
When I saw his contract demands I knew nobody would sign him at that price. Johnson has always thought he is much better than he really is.
A very good possesion WR..yes. A game breaking WR..no.
35 year old possesion WRs are a dime a dozen.
1 catch . . . for 1 yard. That's my memory.I remember him bad mouthing MH also. Meshawn Johnson was an average WR who was good at blocking and willing to catch the ball over the middle. I don't like the guy because he always felt he was more then the team itself and it showed in Tampa bay with Gruden, his comments about Wayne Chrebet and his contract grumbles with the Jets.I'll never forget when Keyshawn was with Tampa Bay and ABC had him miked up for Monday Night Football. As the Bucs were destroying the Colts in the first half, he jealously badmouthed Marvin Harrison on the sideline.
Everyone should know the rest of the story by now. Marvin, preferring to let his play do his talking (as usual), went crazy in the second half as the Colts completed one of the most exciting comebacks in NFL history. And Keyshawn was in the lockerroom thinking the Bucs already had the game in hand.
This will be my lasting memory of Keyshawn Johnson -- jealous and forever inferior to Marvin Harrison.
I wondered this as well. 70 catches last year as Steve Smith's 2nd fiddle and an underperforming QB. I think he has football left in him and think the Packers are being putzes in not throwing some money (at least more than the vet minimum) to sign him.I have to think he's an injury or two (to another receiver elsewhere) from getting better offers.Maybe a foolish question, but is there any real chance that he gets an NFL offer more to his liking as the summer drags on? I don't want to drop him until I'm sure he's not playing at all in 2007.
The Moulds of today or the Moulds you remember from 3 years ago?The Titans lost a player...to ESPN! Ouch!Gotta believe Moulds is the next best option...
The Moulds of 3 years ago=Best WR in NashvilleThe Moulds of today=Best WR in NashvilleTake your pick....The Moulds of today or the Moulds you remember from 3 years ago?The Titans lost a player...to ESPN! Ouch!Gotta believe Moulds is the next best option...
don't forget the super bowl ring he has either.I'll never forget when Keyshawn was with Tampa Bay and ABC had him miked up for Monday Night Football. As the Bucs were destroying the Colts in the first half, he jealously badmouthed Marvin Harrison on the sideline.Everyone should know the rest of the story by now. Marvin, preferring to let his play do his talking (as usual), went crazy in the second half as the Colts completed one of the most exciting comebacks in NFL history. And Keyshawn was in the lockerroom thinking the Bucs already had the game in hand.This will be my lasting memory of Keyshawn Johnson -- jealous and forever inferior to Marvin Harrison.
The Titans would send a private jet for Big Mike Williams right about now.Johnson has not scored 7 TDs in a year since the 2000 season. Can`t see him doing in in Tenn.A dime a dozen? I don't think the Titans would agree with you. They are the big losers here. Having a guy catch 80 balls for 900 yards with around 7 td's and is a solid blocker would be a god send for Vince Young. Without a possesion WR, Young will likely struggle. His WR corp has to be the worst in the NFL. What a disaster for Fisher.Da Guru said:Smart move by Johnson.
When I saw his contract demands I knew nobody would sign him at that price. Johnson has always thought he is much better than he really is.
A very good possesion WR..yes. A game breaking WR..no.
35 year old possesion WRs are a dime a dozen.
Not close. Houston released him because he cannot get separation and has no speed. There's a reason no one in the league has signed him. He's pretty done.The Moulds of 3 years ago=Best WR in NashvilleThe Moulds of today=Best WR in NashvilleTake your pick....The Moulds of today or the Moulds you remember from 3 years ago?The Titans lost a player...to ESPN! Ouch!Gotta believe Moulds is the next best option...
Had he played on a couple of more years and topped 1,000 receptions I think he could have possibly made it in at some point...even later in life as a Senior inductee...but not now. He ends up with 800+ catches but it won't be enough.Keyshawn always said he would play 10 years and that wa it...he made it to 11. He had an interesting little quip with someone form ESPN, maybe Mortenson right after the SB where he made no apologies for the Bucs or his role with the team.First ballot HOF?I know he rubbed just about everyone the wrong way. But Top 25 in receiving yards and Top 15 in receptions and he has a SB ring.
In his 5 seasons with the Texans, David Carr was sacked 249 times! That translates into 1 wr getting most of the action. Look, I'm not saying Moulds is great, but he could still start for the Titans and I think he'd be a great veteran to have on such a young team.Not close. Houston released him because he cannot get separation and has no speed. There's a reason no one in the league has signed him. He's pretty done.The Moulds of 3 years ago=Best WR in NashvilleThe Moulds of today=Best WR in NashvilleTake your pick....The Moulds of today or the Moulds you remember from 3 years ago?The Titans lost a player...to ESPN! Ouch!Gotta believe Moulds is the next best option...
Well, I've been wrong before (I think back in 1972 or soIn his 5 seasons with the Texans, David Carr was sacked 249 times! That translates into 1 wr getting most of the action. Look, I'm not saying Moulds is great, but he could still start for the Titans and I think he'd be a great veteran to have on such a young team.Not close. Houston released him because he cannot get separation and has no speed. There's a reason no one in the league has signed him. He's pretty done.The Moulds of 3 years ago=Best WR in NashvilleThe Moulds of today=Best WR in NashvilleTake your pick....The Moulds of today or the Moulds you remember from 3 years ago?The Titans lost a player...to ESPN! Ouch!Gotta believe Moulds is the next best option...
Not a chance in hell.He only had 4 1,000 yard seasons, and he averaged less than 6 touchdown catches a season. A Super Bowl ring for a WR is not make or break when it comes to the HoF.First ballot HOF?I know he rubbed just about everyone the wrong way. But Top 25 in receiving yards and Top 15 in receptions and he has a SB ring.
WTF? HOF? whats with all this man love for meshawn on this board. even if you completely overlook his attitude, he never was a dominate player. even his 106 catch season, he only scored 1 td. you going to put every receiver in that averaged 74 catches and 5 td's.First ballot HOF?I know he rubbed just about everyone the wrong way. But Top 25 in receiving yards and Top 15 in receptions and he has a SB ring.
Man love? See that thing at the end of my first sentence? It's a question mark. Not an exclamation point.I don't like the guy. He was an elite jack-###. But you can't deny that he was a good WR for a long time. The only year he had less than 800 yards was when Gruden suspended him. The only two years he had lesss than 70 receptions were his rookie year and the year Gruden suspended him. And his value to a team was much more than the numbers due to his willingness to block downfield.Care to tell us how many WRs played for more than 10 years and averaged 74 receptions and 960 yards?BTW, it's dominant, not dominate.WTF? HOF? whats with all this man love for meshawn on this board. even if you completely overlook his attitude, he never was a dominate player. even his 106 catch season, he only scored 1 td. you going to put every receiver in that averaged 74 catches and 5 td's.First ballot HOF?I know he rubbed just about everyone the wrong way. But Top 25 in receiving yards and Top 15 in receptions and he has a SB ring.
And although I don't think Keyshawn is a first ballot HOF'er, just looking at his stats doesn't tell the complete story. His downfield blocking should very much help his case, imho.Man love? See that thing at the end of my first sentence? It's a question mark. Not an exclamation point.I don't like the guy. He was an elite jack-###. But you can't deny that he was a good WR for a long time. The only year he had less than 800 yards was when Gruden suspended him. The only two years he had lesss than 70 receptions were his rookie year and the year Gruden suspended him. And his value to a team was much more than the numbers due to his willingness to block downfield.Care to tell us how many WRs played for more than 10 years and averaged 74 receptions and 960 yards?BTW, it's dominant, not dominate.WTF? HOF? whats with all this man love for meshawn on this board. even if you completely overlook his attitude, he never was a dominate player. even his 106 catch season, he only scored 1 td. you going to put every receiver in that averaged 74 catches and 5 td's.First ballot HOF?I know he rubbed just about everyone the wrong way. But Top 25 in receiving yards and Top 15 in receptions and he has a SB ring.
I put in Art Monk before Keyshawn.First ballot HOF?I know he rubbed just about everyone the wrong way. But Top 25 in receiving yards and Top 15 in receptions and he has a SB ring.
Really? I'd like to see a list of them. And please send one to the Giants, Eli could use the help.Da Guru said:Smart move by Johnson.
When I saw his contract demands I knew nobody would sign him at that price. Johnson has always thought he is much better than he really is.
A very good possesion WR..yes. A game breaking WR..no.
35 year old possesion WRs are a dime a dozen.
I'll remember Keyshawn's uniquely insulting comments about Marvin when Tampa Bay was winning that 2003 game in the first half than the one Super Bowl ring he received that 52 different players and several coaches get each and every year.don't forget the super bowl ring he has either.I'll never forget when Keyshawn was with Tampa Bay and ABC had him miked up for Monday Night Football. As the Bucs were destroying the Colts in the first half, he jealously badmouthed Marvin Harrison on the sideline.Everyone should know the rest of the story by now. Marvin, preferring to let his play do his talking (as usual), went crazy in the second half as the Colts completed one of the most exciting comebacks in NFL history. And Keyshawn was in the lockerroom thinking the Bucs already had the game in hand.This will be my lasting memory of Keyshawn Johnson -- jealous and forever inferior to Marvin Harrison.
That's not my take on this situation at all...unless there's more under the covers. It's not about not going to winner or not. In fact, in pure money terms, the latest figures out are quite amazing as Key apparently turned down almost $8m over 2 years with a pretty decent part of that guaranteed. Apparently he was seeking $12m over 2 years!I think that's absolutely a possibility. If a true contender suffers a major injury and inquires about his services, it's not illogical to think he would consider it.Maybe a foolish question, but is there any real chance that he gets an NFL offer more to his liking as the summer drags on? I don't want to drop him until I'm sure he's not playing at all in 2007.
He was one of the best blocking WR's in the league. He was always willing to go in the middle. He was a drama queen at times, but he definitely had heart. Retiring at this stage of his career was a smart business move.meshawn never did have any heart. he got by on his talent, and never did work at his craft.According to Cohen, Tennessee offered him a contract but he turned it down and took a job with ESPN/ABC.
Cross between TO? That's like saying Warrick Dunn is a cross between LT and Barry Sanders. Without all the TDs.He's a poor man's Ward. Solid WR. Average career. A nice complier. Should only be allowed near the HOF with a ticket.He was one of the best blocking WR's in the league. He was always willing to go in the middle. He was a drama queen at times, but he definitely had heart. Retiring at this stage of his career was a smart business move.meshawn never did have any heart. he got by on his talent, and never did work at his craft.According to Cohen, Tennessee offered him a contract but he turned it down and took a job with ESPN/ABC.This is exactly what I was going to say, but you already did. Congrats to Keyshawn on a good, solid career. He was a tough, gritty WR (I would almost consider him a cross between TO and Hines Ward) and I respected his game. I look forward to his contributions on ESPN.
Good point. Paying attention to one game and a series of obnoxious comments is much more reflective of his career than a championship team that he was a big part of.I'll remember Keyshawn's uniquely insulting comments about Marvin when Tampa Bay was winning that 2003 game in the first half than the one Super Bowl ring he received that 52 different players and several coaches get each and every year.don't forget the super bowl ring he has either.I'll never forget when Keyshawn was with Tampa Bay and ABC had him miked up for Monday Night Football. As the Bucs were destroying the Colts in the first half, he jealously badmouthed Marvin Harrison on the sideline.Everyone should know the rest of the story by now. Marvin, preferring to let his play do his talking (as usual), went crazy in the second half as the Colts completed one of the most exciting comebacks in NFL history. And Keyshawn was in the lockerroom thinking the Bucs already had the game in hand.This will be my lasting memory of Keyshawn Johnson -- jealous and forever inferior to Marvin Harrison.