Kub
Footballguy
The ironic thing about this whole subject is that I really like Keyshawn as a player.
- Because you can't remember it, Gruden doesn't get credit for building the Raiders? He took over a team that was 4-12, made them an 8-8 team with Donald Hollis at QB his 1st year. He then took a journeyman NFL QB and went on to making the Raiders a legit contender and that journeyman became NFL MVP. After he left, the Raiders were good for exactly one year and were embarassed by their former coach in the Super Bowl.
- The Gruden/Switzer comparision is laughable. There is one major difference in those situations. Jimmy won 3 titles, Barry took the same team and won 1. Dungy won ZERO titles, and Gruden took that same team to a championship his first year. BTW, Dungy hasn't won a thing with one of the greatest offenses ever assembled.
- Andy Reid, the "elite" coach, choked in the Super Bowl 2 years ago. The Eagles are in the game, but are behind and Mr.Wonderful gets painfully conservative down the stretch. Donovan may have taken the heat, but Reid is as responsible as anyone for that loss. He is a very good coach, but not great. I'll take Gruden over him any time.
- Keyshawn, elite WR? Let me check again:
e·lite or é·lite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-lt, -lt)
n. pl. elite or e·lites
A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: “In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them” (Times Literary Supplement).
The best or most skilled members of a group
OK, I'm back. Yeah, he is not an elite WR, and I'm not talking about from a fantasy perspective. He hasn't made a Pro-Bowl since 2001, has only had four 1000 yard seasons(none since 2002), and only 1 season with 10 TDs(1998) Does he run good routes? Yes. Is he a good blocker? Yes. Hines Ward does both of those things better and produces at a much higher level, which is why he qualifies as an elite WR.
Keyshawn wasn't the best WR on his team this year. He isn't even the best WR in his family.
- Because you can't remember it, Gruden doesn't get credit for building the Raiders? He took over a team that was 4-12, made them an 8-8 team with Donald Hollis at QB his 1st year. He then took a journeyman NFL QB and went on to making the Raiders a legit contender and that journeyman became NFL MVP. After he left, the Raiders were good for exactly one year and were embarassed by their former coach in the Super Bowl.
- The Gruden/Switzer comparision is laughable. There is one major difference in those situations. Jimmy won 3 titles, Barry took the same team and won 1. Dungy won ZERO titles, and Gruden took that same team to a championship his first year. BTW, Dungy hasn't won a thing with one of the greatest offenses ever assembled.
- Andy Reid, the "elite" coach, choked in the Super Bowl 2 years ago. The Eagles are in the game, but are behind and Mr.Wonderful gets painfully conservative down the stretch. Donovan may have taken the heat, but Reid is as responsible as anyone for that loss. He is a very good coach, but not great. I'll take Gruden over him any time.
- Keyshawn, elite WR? Let me check again:
e·lite or é·lite ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-lt, -lt)
n. pl. elite or e·lites
A group or class of persons or a member of such a group or class, enjoying superior intellectual, social, or economic status: “In addition to notions of social equality there was much emphasis on the role of elites and of heroes within them” (Times Literary Supplement).
The best or most skilled members of a group
OK, I'm back. Yeah, he is not an elite WR, and I'm not talking about from a fantasy perspective. He hasn't made a Pro-Bowl since 2001, has only had four 1000 yard seasons(none since 2002), and only 1 season with 10 TDs(1998) Does he run good routes? Yes. Is he a good blocker? Yes. Hines Ward does both of those things better and produces at a much higher level, which is why he qualifies as an elite WR.
Keyshawn wasn't the best WR on his team this year. He isn't even the best WR in his family.
