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Keyshawn, says he'd like to play with NE or Philly (1 Viewer)
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Jason Wood
Zoo York
I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly 
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I haven't seen/heard it bandied about, but my money is going on San Diego.
Three biscuits and a bucket of chicken = still better than 1 TO
I have to admit, New England was the first place I thought of when I heard he was released.
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Moulds was the more explosive player in his prime, but Keyshawn has always been the more complete player, and with Moulds having lost his explosiveness, Keyshawn is, in my opinion, better at nearly every facet of the game.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
Capella
Footballguy
He is.Too bad Key burned all his bridges in Tampa. He'd be perfect as a #3 right now.Moulds was the more explosive player in his prime, but Keyshawn has always been the more complete player, and with Moulds having lost his explosiveness, Keyshawn is, in my opinion, better at nearly every facet of the game.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
Kub
Footballguy
I have no doubts that, as an on field performer, Keyshawn would fill a very obvious need for the Eagles. He would provide a very good possession receiver to start opposite Reggie Brown.
However, given what they just went though with TO, I find it hard to believe the Eagles want to bring a known pain in the ### into the fray. The wounds that TO inflicted haven't healed over yet.
However, given what they just went though with TO, I find it hard to believe the Eagles want to bring a known pain in the ### into the fray. The wounds that TO inflicted haven't healed over yet.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Keyshawn's personality? This is way over-blown. He was here two years and was nothing but positive on and off the field. He said he'd like to play for NE or Philly and has played for the Boys, whay do they have in common? Respectable coaches, I speak for all Cowboys on this board when I say he'll be missed.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Favre has said he wants to see the Packers do something in free agency.
With Walker a ?, Chatman released, Ferguson always injured, Murphy's career in jeopardy... Key would seem to be a very good short -term boost and would provide Favre some comfort that he has a WR besides Driver who can produce.
With Walker a ?, Chatman released, Ferguson always injured, Murphy's career in jeopardy... Key would seem to be a very good short -term boost and would provide Favre some comfort that he has a WR besides Driver who can produce.
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
No problems in Dallas other than the jawing he and Bledsoe got into during that game last year.Yeah, being as how he's such a class act and all.
cstu
Footballguy
I agree, it's completely overblown. What has he really done? Wrote a self-centered book as a rookie and was unhappy with losing and not being a big enough part of the offense in Tampa. I've met the guy in person and he's actually one of the nicest football players I've met and is great with fans.Keyshawn's personality? This is way over-blown. He was here two years and was nothing but positive on and off the field. He said he'd like to play for NE or Philly and has played for the Boys, whay do they have in common? Respectable coaches, I speak for all Cowboys on this board when I say he'll be missed.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
It would be funny if SD signs him and have the WR's from the Bucs' Super Bowl team.
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-OZ-
Footballguy
Is it possible, that at a certain point, Keyshawn finally has "gotten it"?
He wants to play for two of the better franchises recently, hasn't been a PITA, so what if he got into one altercation with Bledsoe? Seems to me he may have been right there.
For some reason I find myself liking Keyshawn, IMO he's a very underrated player and I'd welcome him anywhere.
He wants to play for two of the better franchises recently, hasn't been a PITA, so what if he got into one altercation with Bledsoe? Seems to me he may have been right there.
For some reason I find myself liking Keyshawn, IMO he's a very underrated player and I'd welcome him anywhere.
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Great post. I think Keyshawn finally "gets it" too. At this stage of his career, I think he has learned that he doesn't have to be the #1 guy. He can be the second fiddle, move-the-chains guy.I'd welcome him with open arms in New England. He's an upgrade over Givens (save for the age factor). Heck, I might even buy a jersey if he comes here.
Kub
Footballguy
Gruden isn't a coach worthy of respect? What on Andy Reid's resume makes him a better coach than Gruden? Oh, and Gruden has brought 2 organizations to contender status.
That said, Gruden chose to banish Keyshawn mid-season only a few years ago(gee, what team/coach did something similar to that recently?). A couple of seasons without any major incidents and all is forgotten? Sorry, I'm not ready to give him a pardon.
My point is that I don't think the Eagles are going to be so eager to bring another potential headache immediately after getting rid of the last one.
That said, Gruden chose to banish Keyshawn mid-season only a few years ago(gee, what team/coach did something similar to that recently?). A couple of seasons without any major incidents and all is forgotten? Sorry, I'm not ready to give him a pardon.
My point is that I don't think the Eagles are going to be so eager to bring another potential headache immediately after getting rid of the last one.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
He certainly handled his release from the Cowboys very well from a public relations standpoint. I think he did a good job with that, rather than whining and complaining as he could have.
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
Accept speed and that has always been the downfall for Key. Moulds is still a good receiver and if each is healthy I am not so sure Key is better. Key is a bigger target and a better blocker, but Moulds can still stretch the field which can get you the big play and also open up things for other receivers and runners. Key doesn't open up anything other than with his blocking. Pretty close in my opinion, but if I had to bet; Moulds gets more money than Key.Moulds was the more explosive player in his prime, but Keyshawn has always been the more complete player, and with Moulds having lost his explosiveness, Keyshawn is, in my opinion, better at nearly every facet of the game.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
Kub
Footballguy
Let's see:2003/2004- dismissed from team, had restraining order filed against him for threatening man's life LinkHello Kub, you said he's a pain in the ###, how did you come to this conclusion?Please provide a recent
A recent link to my opinion? Or are you debating that Keyshawn is a pain?
Nov. 2004 - Female reporter deserves spanking
Oct. 2004 - called Rhonde Barber an "Uncle Tom"
2005 - on field argument with Bledsoe and verbal sparing with Michael Irvin, who accurately said his lack of speed keeps him from being an elite receiver
The last 3 incidents can be found in his Wikipedia entry
Yeah, you're right. He's a real sweetheart. Salt of the earth.
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Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Deion Branch stretches the field just fine. Keyshawn can run all the underneath routes.Accept speed and that has always been the downfall for Key. Moulds is still a good receiver and if each is healthy I am not so sure Key is better. Key is a bigger target and a better blocker, but Moulds can still stretch the field which can get you the big play and also open up things for other receivers and runners. Key doesn't open up anything other than with his blocking. Pretty close in my opinion, but if I had to bet; Moulds gets more money than Key.Moulds was the more explosive player in his prime, but Keyshawn has always been the more complete player, and with Moulds having lost his explosiveness, Keyshawn is, in my opinion, better at nearly every facet of the game.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
Liquid Tension
Footballguy
He is also one arrogant SOB. He is always feeling disrespected and saying he is an elit receiver because he does all the little things others don't. he is right on part of that, but his receiving skills just aren't up to snuff with the upper tier of players. Outside of his personality that does not mean he can't help teams.Let's see:2003/2004- dismissed from team, had restraining order filed against him for threatening man's life LinkHello Kub, you said he's a pain in the ###, how did you come to this conclusion?Please provide a recent
Nov. 2004 - Female reporter deserves spanking
Oct. 2004 - called Rhonde Barber an "Uncle Tom"
2005 - on field argument with Bledsoe and verbal sparing with Michael Irvin, who accurately said his lack of speed keeps him from being an elite receiver
The last 3 incidents can be found in his Wikipedia entry
Yeah, you're right. He's a real sweetheart. Salt of the earth.
Kub
Footballguy
Honestly, I can handle an arrogant WR. It seems like nearly all of the elite ones are arrogant, with notable exceptions like Hines Ward and Marvin Harrison. While Keyshawn behaves like an elite WR, he simply isn't one.
My point was I don't know if the Eagles are going to be so eager to bring in another outspoken WR after the TO debacle.
My point was I don't know if the Eagles are going to be so eager to bring in another outspoken WR after the TO debacle.
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MLBrandow
Guest
No kidding, he's a No.2.... but he's a great No.2. Reggie Brown and Keyshawn Johnson would be a solid combo.But they are going after Javon Walker yeah?I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
She prolly needed a spankingHe may be an "Uncle Tom"Let's see:2003/2004- dismissed from team, had restraining order filed against him for threatening man's life LinkHello Kub, you said he's a pain in the ###, how did you come to this conclusion?Please provide a recent
Nov. 2004 - Female reporter deserves spanking
Oct. 2004 - called Rhonde Barber an "Uncle Tom"
2005 - on field argument with Bledsoe and verbal sparing with Michael Irvin, who accurately said his lack of speed keeps him from being an elite receiver
The last 3 incidents can be found in his Wikipedia entry
Yeah, you're right. He's a real sweetheart. Salt of the earth.
I saw the game, Bledsoe jumped in Keys face after a fumble, I would have put him in check too.
The verbal jab with Mike was childs play, did you not see Keys interview with Mike? (He does lack speed though).
Fact: Key was a first class citizen while here in Dallas, I saw nor heard him say anything negative about a player or a coach while Key was here. He takes it 100% on every single play. Who ever signs him will be happy with what they get.
Fact: Only two players have caught more passes than Key in the first ten years of their career: M. Harrison and TO (They also came out the same year)
If you're not ready to forgive him for his past actions, ok, I understand. But he's done nothing to deserve the label that's been put on him, at least not of late and I did not care for him coming to Dallas.
-OZ-
Footballguy
If you give credit for the Bucs to Dungy, why not give credit for the Raiders to Gruden?2002 NFL Oakland Raiders 11-5-0 Callahan (AFC Champs, lost to TB)2001 NFL Oakland Raiders 10-6-0 Gruden
2000 NFL Oakland Raiders 12-4-0 Gruden
1999 NFL Oakland Raiders 8-8-0 Gruden
1998 NFL Oakland Raiders 8-8-0 Gruden
1997 NFL Oakland Raiders 4-12-0 Bugel
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
He may have done a good job in Oak I don't recall the situation at this moment. If this was Gruden's team, he no doubt gets some credit, but IMHO Gruden is still the most overrated coach in the NFL. It's like given Barry Switzer the credit for taking the Cowboys to the Superbowl..........Pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaassseee, that was Jimmy's team. Barry's sorry butt gets no credit. Build your own damn team and show us something.What have you done for me lately Chucky?
2001 NFL Oakland Raiders 10-6-0 Gruden
2000 NFL Oakland Raiders 12-4-0 Gruden
1999 NFL Oakland Raiders 8-8-0 Gruden
1998 NFL Oakland Raiders 8-8-0 Gruden
1997 NFL Oakland Raiders 4-12-0 Bugel
This was a deliberate attempted to confuse me. I agree. Key is not nearly the headcase that he is made out to be. I think Gruden was just as big a part of the problem as Key was when Key was in Tampa. IMO Key is one of the most underrated WRs in the NFL.Keyshawn's personality? This is way over-blown. He was here two years and was nothing but positive on and off the field. He said he'd like to play for NE or Philly and has played for the Boys, whay do they have in common? Respectable coaches, I speak for all Cowboys on this board when I say he'll be missed.I recall you said a few days ago that you want to have nothing to do with Eric Moulds. Given Keyshawn's personality, and what the team has gone through with Owens recently, I'm a bit surprised by your preference for Keyshawn.I'd welcome him with open arms in Philly
He is not an elite FF receiver. He is (or at least has been) an elite NFL WR. You get too caught up in the statistics and don't see his play on the line, on downfield blocking, etc... Key is the master of the little things that don't show up in books, but make the difference in the game.
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
I personally think he is at a point in his career he would like to play for anyone! lol Yesterday it was Carilina, today it will be a different team.
His days of a elite receiver are long gone! But what he does offer is the little things that don't show up in stats as long as he's not crying get me the damn ball! I am surprised Dallas didn't re sign him for cheap. That tells me he is not exactly the club house gentleman most teams would want on there roster. And Gruiden would second that!
His days of a elite receiver are long gone! But what he does offer is the little things that don't show up in stats as long as he's not crying get me the damn ball! I am surprised Dallas didn't re sign him for cheap. That tells me he is not exactly the club house gentleman most teams would want on there roster. And Gruiden would second that!
Ridgelake
Footballguy
I think Dallas is giving Key the opportunity to see what his true market value is. Key would have squabled quite a lot at his $2.5 mil for 2006. So to keep the peace, Dallas let him go test the waters. I strongly suspect that Key will give Dallas the chance to match any offer that he gets. He knows that Parcells is the coach who knows him best.
