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Kimbo Slice Made $175K to Fight Tank Abbott.

There's a good reason mixed martial arts fighter Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson (2-0) calls himself a "Six Figga #####".

According to the Florida State Athletic Commission, Slice earned $175,000 for knocking out David 'Tank" Abbott (9-14-0) at EliteXC: Street Certified on Saturday, Feb. 16 in Miami, Fla.

Note: MMA Junkie offers this helpful disclaimer: "the figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income."

Kimbo Slice Fight Collection

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In the wake of Kimbo Slice's brief demolition of Tank Abbot, we've been treated to approximately 76 different takes on the Miami brawler's performance and MMA status. Reactions run the gamut from hardcore commentators being won over by his training and popularity, to ignorant haters focusing on Slice's racial background and ignoring his skill. I've expressed my overall appreciation of Slice before, and nothing's changed. While I'm skeptical about Kimbo's ceiling in the sport (he's not exactly a young prospect), I have no problem with Elite XC building around the former Hurricane. I don't even fault Elite XC for elevating Kimbo to main event status. What does bother me is the kind of fight MMA fans are getting for their money and interest.

Kimbo's popularity is a given at this point. Research involving Google trend searches, website traffic flow, and YouTube hits all confirm that Kimbo can generate interest among MMA fans and newcomers. The hometown location certainly amplified the ecstatic reaction Slice garnered on the 16th. Fans in the Northeast or West probably would have received Slice just as vocally. The man is a marketer's dream, except for that whole "illegal street fighting" thing.

If the above is true (and I think we can agree it is), Elite XC cannot bury Kimbo on the undercard of a show. Fans want to see Kimbo regardless of his relative inexperience in the sport. Like Brock Lesnar, Kimbo brings in an audience that established MMA titleholders could only dream of. Unlike Lesnar, Elite XC does not have the depth in talent to provide Kimbo with the proper level of opponent. While former UFC champions and recognizable names can challenge Lesnar, Kimbo faces over-the-hill bar room fighters and men riding 4 fight losing streaks.

Luke Thomas of BloodyElbow fame makes the correct assessment that Tank Abbott represents the kind of fighter perfect for someone's second professional fight. Unfortunately, Kimbo is not fighting at local shows or on the undercard. He's a main event star, someone that brings in viewers. Eventually, fans will grow tired of 40-second fights. Someone spending money to view a fight (and Showtime is a pay channel) will feel cheated.

Many people pointed to the WWE-style promotion that went into the Kimbo fight. Unlike professional wrestling, Elite XC cannot guarantee a tremendous fight at the conclusion of the build. For some reason (whether nostalgia or naivete), people bought into the Abbott myth that Gary Shaw was selling. Even though most writers knew exactly how the fight was going to go, some still thought Tank might present some sort of challenge.

The fight reminded me most of the recent UFC Tito Ortiz v. Ken Shamrock debacle. Even though Shamrock is well removed from the prime of his career (like Abbott), fans still thought that past greatness and real hatred might inspire Shamrock into putting on a show against a younger, better fighter. Instead, we got back-to-back blowouts that left some fans feeling swindled. Quick stoppage or not, I felt stupid after plunking down my $40 for a fight card that had no chance of living up to expectations. If Shaw truly believes that fans will sign up for Showtime to watch Slice, he had better be able to provide better fights.

When people compare boxing and MMA (in a negative manner), the argument usually goes that MMA has to avoid the mistakes of boxing that led to the best fighters not fighting each other. That's a real issue, though not, in my opinion, the greatest threat. My fear is that Slice represents the same sort of marketing that catapulted Mike Tyson to fame. He's being built up as this destructive force that can take a man's head off with one punch. He's being presented with sub par opponents who crumble under the pressure seconds into the fight. That sounds exactly like Tyson's comeback run, during which gullible fans were tricked into believing fighters like Peter McNeely posed an actual challenge to the knockout king.

Which UFC fighter does Kimbo most resemble? To me, that's an easy answer: Houston Alexander. Both have instantly developed fan bases due to their brutal striking ability. Both got into the game late and are years away from challenging the elite fighters in their respective weight classes. The UFC provided Alexander with some tough early challenges, some of which he passed (Keith Jardine), some he failed (Thiago Silva). Now, it appears the UFC is going to attempt to maximize Alexander's talent by providing him with winnable fights against opponents that play into his strengths. No one wants to see Alexander smothered by a high caliber wrestler, or easily submitted by a BJJ black belt. They want to see him stand and bang, kind of like what will happen when he fights James Irvin, assuming Irvin makes it to and through the fight in one piece.

The difference between Slice and Alexander is that the UFC isn't building entire PPVs around Alexander. It's fine for Alexander to excite a Spike program with a 90-second knockout. Personally, I'm going to feel cheated if Slice continues to dominate overmatched foes in brief exhibitions. I'm certainly not ordering an Elite XC PPV just to watch Slice overwhelm another hand picked opponent.

This is not about Kimbo being booked against Fedor, Couture, or another top heavyweight. It's about Elite XC treating him for what he is. I don't want to be deceived by another promotional campaign that builds someone like Abbott as a credible threat. I don't want to see a Kimbo v. Paul Buentello fight billed as a battle between "top heavyweights." There's no shame in enjoying Slice for what he is. A talented, unproven fighter that will likely beat a Sean Gannon or Ken Shamrock with relative ease.

Tito Ortiz is as popular as an MMA fighter can get. But a short, one-sided fight is disappointing no matter the background of the competitor. Every once in a while it's ok for a headlining match to be quick (like Liddell v. Jackson). But without those 15 or 25-minute wars, it ends up being meaningless.

 
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208

 
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
 
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Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.

 
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.

 
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
 
Digging up an old @zzed, Tank Abbot to fight Kimbo does not motivate me...but go get that big white dude that beat Kimbo's @zz and bring him into the ring and I'll watch.

 
BustedKnuckles said:
Sheriff66 said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
This was my point, Tank is a fat slob with a name that better land his home run shot in the first min or he is sucking wind at this point. Lesnar fought Mir, let Kimbo at least fight someone that has both standup and a ground game, then we'll see what that dude is made of.
 
kutta said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Sheriff66 said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I`m not talking about WHO they fought...i`m talking about HOW they fight.As far as being a real fighter all i can say is from my experience its alot more dangerous to fight on the street without referees than in the ring where the action is controlled. The talent level is`nt the same but its more unpredictable.

Its very easy to say ''i`ll wait until he beats up a contender or sumthin` ''than it is to see talent and make bold statements that they will be good at what they do.

 
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I have a feeling that Kimbo will end up being to MMA what Ernie Shavers and Mike Weaver were to boxing......never considered to be one of the greats, but always a good draw who will earn a very respectable livimng due to his punching power.

Even if he ends up losing two or three fights in a row once they actually put real opponents in with him, he will still be intriguing to watch due to his reputation and one-punch-knockout ability. Kind of like what Tyson was like for the last few years of his career.

 
I have a feeling that Kimbo will end up being to MMA what Ernie Shavers and Mike Weaver were to boxing......never considered to be one of the greats, but always a good draw who will earn a very respectable livimng due to his punching power.Even if he ends up losing two or three fights in a row once they actually put real opponents in with him, he will still be intriguing to watch due to his reputation and one-punch-knockout ability. Kind of like what Tyson was like for the last few years of his career.
:confused: He'll get seriously messed up by someone who has skill.
 
kutta said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Sheriff66 said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I`m not talking about WHO they fought...i`m talking about HOW they fight.As far as being a real fighter all i can say is from my experience its alot more dangerous to fight on the street without referees than in the ring where the action is controlled. The talent level is`nt the same but its more unpredictable.

Its very easy to say ''i`ll wait until he beats up a contender or sumthin` ''than it is to see talent and make bold statements that they will be good at what they do.
duh.....
 
kutta said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Sheriff66 said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
:goodposting: Liddell doesn't go to the groud because there he is one tough SOB to take down, he was a college wrestler, and to compare Kimbo to Liddell talent wise is comical.

 
what'd tank make?
Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson ($175,000) def. David "Tank" Abbott ($126,000)Antonio Silva ($80,000) def. Ricco Rodriguez ($20,000)Scott Smith ($12,000) def. Kyle Noke ($3,000)Yves Edwards ($6,000) def. Edson Berto ($6,000)Brett Rogers ($4,000) def. James Thompson ($25,000)Rafael Feijao ($6,000) def. John Doyle ($2,500)Yosmany Cabezas ($2,000) def. Jon Kirk ($2,500)Dave Herman ($1,500) def. Mario Rinaldi ($2,000)Eric Bradley ($1,000) def. Mikey Gomez ($1,500)Lorenzo Borgomeo ($1,000) def. Mike Bernhard ($1,500)Moyses Gabin ($1) def. Jirka Hlavati ($500)
 
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kutta said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Sheriff66 said:
BustedKnuckles said:
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
:shrug: Liddell doesn't go to the groud because there he is one tough SOB to take down, he was a college wrestler, and to compare Kimbo to Liddell talent wise is comical.
;)
 
what'd tank make?
Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson ($175,000) def. David "Tank" Abbott ($126,000)Antonio Silva ($80,000) def. Ricco Rodriguez ($20,000)

Scott Smith ($12,000) def. Kyle Noke ($3,000)

Yves Edwards ($6,000) def. Edson Berto ($6,000)

Brett Rogers ($4,000) def. James Thompson ($25,000)

Rafael Feijao ($6,000) def. John Doyle ($2,5O0)

Yosmany Cabezas ($2,000) def. Jon Kirk ($2,500)

Dave Herman ($1,500) def. Mario Rinaldi ($2,000)

Eric Bradley ($1,000) def. Mikey Gomez ($1,500)

Lorenzo Borgomeo ($1,000) def. Mike Bernhard ($1,500)

Moyses Gabin ($1) def. Jirka Hlavati ($500)
Who the hell is this guy's agent?
 
what'd tank make?
Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson ($175,000) def. David "Tank" Abbott ($126,000)Antonio Silva ($80,000) def. Ricco Rodriguez ($20,000)

Scott Smith ($12,000) def. Kyle Noke ($3,000)

Yves Edwards ($6,000) def. Edson Berto ($6,000)

Brett Rogers ($4,000) def. James Thompson ($25,000)

Rafael Feijao ($6,000) def. John Doyle ($2,500)

Yosmany Cabezas ($2,000) def. Jon Kirk ($2,500)

Dave Herman ($1,500) def. Mario Rinaldi ($2,000)

Eric Bradley ($1,000) def. Mikey Gomez ($1,500)

Lorenzo Borgomeo ($1,000) def. Mike Bernhard ($1,500)

Moyses Gabin ($1) def. Jirka Hlavati ($500)
not a bad few minutes work. i see this tool from time to time in socal. he's a fat loud drunkass. wish i could pull 126,000 for basically doing nothing.
 
FWIW, Alexander has been fighting MMA for at least seven years.

And it's been added above, but there's little in common between Liddell and Slice. Liddell has been into MMA since he was little. He started training in karate at 12 years old and was a collegiate wrestler.

If I had to establish a preferred order for MMA skills, it would go like this:

1. Wrestling

2. Martial arts (BJJ, Judo)

3. Stand-up fighting - Boxing (including kickboxing, Muay Thai and street fighting)

That doesn't mean a guy like Slice (as with Alexander) can't become a solid MMA fighter with lots of training in wrestling and martial arts. It just means they have a tough and long road to make up the ground. Of course, the advantage a guy like Slice has is that the brawlers get the big paychecks. Tank made a career out of it.

So with a few years under his belt and some solid dedication, Slice could be a top fighter. He might be a little old to get there now, but I'll enjoy the ride.

 
what'd tank make?
Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson ($175,000) def. David "Tank" Abbott ($126,000)Antonio Silva ($80,000) def. Ricco Rodriguez ($20,000)

Scott Smith ($12,000) def. Kyle Noke ($3,000)

Yves Edwards ($6,000) def. Edson Berto ($6,000)

Brett Rogers ($4,000) def. James Thompson ($25,000)

Rafael Feijao ($6,000) def. John Doyle ($2,5O0)

Yosmany Cabezas ($2,000) def. Jon Kirk ($2,500)

Dave Herman ($1,500) def. Mario Rinaldi ($2,000)

Eric Bradley ($1,000) def. Mikey Gomez ($1,500)

Lorenzo Borgomeo ($1,000) def. Mike Bernhard ($1,500)

Moyses Gabin ($1) def. Jirka Hlavati ($500)
Who the hell is this guy's agent?
That fight was supposedly set up by an independent promoter and put on by Elite. They paid him $1, but he was expected to also be paid by the other promoter.
 
I'd love to knock out Tank Abbott for $175K.
But would you let Kimbo rip through you for $126k?
Hell yeah I would... I'm pretty sure I could do just as well as the first two guys he fought..Here would be my game plan..Bell rings.Run towards Kimbo throwing wild haymakers.Wake up and enjoy my $125,000. :kicksrock:
Pretty sure you could do a shoot take down on this cat. From there an arm bar or ankle lock wouldnt take much. Now you would be getting all the hype since you are the man that beat Kimbo !
 
I'd love to knock out Tank Abbott for $175K.
But would you let Kimbo rip through you for $126k?
Hell yeah I would... I'm pretty sure I could do just as well as the first two guys he fought..Here would be my game plan..Bell rings.Run towards Kimbo throwing wild haymakers.Wake up and enjoy my $125,000. :lmao:
Pretty sure you could do a shoot take down on this cat. From there an arm bar or ankle lock wouldnt take much. Now you would be getting all the hype since you are the man that beat Kimbo !
Sounds good.... except for the take down part, and the arm bar thing... Pretty sure I couldn't do that on him if he stood still and let me try. I could throw some haymakers though.. :unsure:
 
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.
Why would chucks take down defense come into play against Kimbo ??? The fight would resemble his 2nd fight with Rampage IMO...and if that was the case Kimbo would have a hell of a chance to win.
 
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I`m not talking about WHO they fought...i`m talking about HOW they fight.As far as being a real fighter all i can say is from my experience its alot more dangerous to fight on the street without referees than in the ring where the action is controlled. The talent level is`nt the same but its more unpredictable.

Its very easy to say ''i`ll wait until he beats up a contender or sumthin` ''than it is to see talent and make bold statements that they will be good at what they do.
I'd look like a hell of a fighter if I dropped a 10 year old. It's pretty easy for him to look good when his is fighting an 42 year old fat ### who had little skill to begin with.Of course street fighting is alot more dangerous but thanks for dropping those words of wisdom since you must be a street thug.

 
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I`m not talking about WHO they fought...i`m talking about HOW they fight.As far as being a real fighter all i can say is from my experience its alot more dangerous to fight on the street without referees than in the ring where the action is controlled. The talent level is`nt the same but its more unpredictable.

Its very easy to say ''i`ll wait until he beats up a contender or sumthin` ''than it is to see talent and make bold statements that they will be good at what they do.
I'd look like a hell of a fighter if I dropped a 10 year old. It's pretty easy for him to look good when his is fighting an 42 year old fat ### who had little skill to begin with.Of course street fighting is alot more dangerous but thanks for dropping those words of wisdom since you must be a street thug.
go back to your safe little office cubicle
 
Kimbo Slice is in your face with only two fights into his MMA career, the jury has yet to issue a verdict. I am here to disband the jury because Kimbo Slice will climb to the top in no time.

I, like many others, had my doubts about Slice's transition from street brawling to the professional MMA world. This guy was fighting in backyards a little over a year ago, how could he possibly get into the ring with a professionally trained fighter and hold his own? BAM is the only word one could use to explain how Kimbo is leaving a trail of unconscious bodies on the way to the top.It is apparent that Kimbo's main weapon is his tremendous punching power. It won him a first round TKO against Bo Cantrell on November 10, 2007, and a TKO in 43 seconds against Tank Abbott on Feb. 16, 2008.

The one thing Kimbo may not have is grappling capabilities. It's easy to see that from his fight against Boston police officer turned MMA fighter, Sean "The Cannon" Gannon. Though it wasn't a professional fight, one can see that once Gannon made it past the bombardment of punches and closed the gap Kimbo had no reaction, nor did he seem to be comfortable. Kimbo himself says that he prefers to stay off the ground, even though he has recently been spending many hours in the gym practicing wrestling and Jiujitsu.

Outside of the ring Kimbo has the greatest weapon of all, intimidation. He has a legendary reputation as an undefeatable bare knuckle fighter and his thick beard only compliments his menacing look. Not to mention the extremely solid muscular body.

Kimbo Slice might be the greatest thing to happen in MMA within the last few years, but surely he can be pitted up against better fighters than Bo Cantrell and Tank Abbott. Both have more losses than wins within the last few years. Personally I think in order to get the challenge that he needs, Slice has to make a name in the UFC. Maybe it's time he starts negotiating with Mr. Dana White if he really wants to leave a scar on the face of the MMA world. Nonetheless, the verdict on Kimbo Slice is out; he's on his way to the top

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/10459-M...p_In_MMA-210208
Kimbo is a one trick pony, let him fight a real fighter, then come talk to me...Tank Abbott is a bum at this point.
Whats your definition of a ''real'' fighter ? If you said ''complete'' fighter i might agree with you.I think it`s funny that a guy like chuck liddell who is basically a striker like Slice gets mucho respect for his style yet kimbo is a one trick pony...kimbo is a MUCH better puncher than liddell,not just harder but technique wise.
Oh c'mon now. Liddell has faced the best fighters in the world. Kimbo has faced some street thugs in a backyard. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.
I`m not talking about WHO they fought...i`m talking about HOW they fight.As far as being a real fighter all i can say is from my experience its alot more dangerous to fight on the street without referees than in the ring where the action is controlled. The talent level is`nt the same but its more unpredictable.

Its very easy to say ''i`ll wait until he beats up a contender or sumthin` ''than it is to see talent and make bold statements that they will be good at what they do.
Looked like Kimbo had a lot of guys (refs?) jump in there to save his @zz many, many times against Gannon.
 
BustedKnuckles said:
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.
Why would chucks take down defense come into play against Kimbo ??? The fight would resemble his 2nd fight with Rampage IMO...and if that was the case Kimbo would have a hell of a chance to win.
Found this on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums ...seems to be a hot topic these days.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=735971

 
BustedKnuckles said:
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.
Why would chucks take down defense come into play against Kimbo ??? The fight would resemble his 2nd fight with Rampage IMO...and if that was the case Kimbo would have a hell of a chance to win.
Found this on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums ...seems to be a hot topic these days.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=735971
:goodposting: at Kimbo with 2 or 3 MMA fights under his belt beating Chuck Lidell.
 
BustedKnuckles said:
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.
Why would chucks take down defense come into play against Kimbo ??? The fight would resemble his 2nd fight with Rampage IMO...and if that was the case Kimbo would have a hell of a chance to win.
Found this on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums ...seems to be a hot topic these days.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=735971
:goodposting: at Kimbo with 2 or 3 MMA fights under his belt beating Chuck Lidell.
If Liddell fought the exact same fight that he did in his 2nd fight vs Rampage then I would give good odds to Kimbo. I agree with BustedKnuckles in saying that Liddell's technique in throwing his punches is horrible. If he stepped into a boxing ring against a good amateur he would get knocked out in the 1st rd. I believe that Liddell is the better overall fighter at this point, but Kimbo's style is all wrong for Liddell at this point in his career. You could see Liddell did not want any part of Rampage's punches in their 2nd fight.
 
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BustedKnuckles said:
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.
Why would chucks take down defense come into play against Kimbo ??? The fight would resemble his 2nd fight with Rampage IMO...and if that was the case Kimbo would have a hell of a chance to win.
Found this on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums ...seems to be a hot topic these days.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=735971
:popcorn: at Kimbo with 2 or 3 MMA fights under his belt beating Chuck Lidell.
If Liddell fought the exact same fight that he did in his 2nd fight vs Rampage then I would give good odds to Kimbo. I agree with BustedKnuckles in saying that Liddell's technique in throwing his punches is horrible. If he stepped into a boxing ring against a good amateur he would get knocked out in the 1st rd. I believe that Liddell is the better overall fighter at this point, but Kimbo's style is all wrong for Liddell at this point in his career. You could see Liddell did not want any part of Rampage's punches in their 2nd fight.
So we're talking about boxing?
 
BustedKnuckles said:
A lot of people seem to like making the Liddell comparison, but Chuck has world-class takedown defense. That's not to say Kimbo can't develop that skill too, but right now he's lightyears behind Liddell.
Why would chucks take down defense come into play against Kimbo ??? The fight would resemble his 2nd fight with Rampage IMO...and if that was the case Kimbo would have a hell of a chance to win.
Found this on Sherdog Mixed Martial Arts Forums ...seems to be a hot topic these days.http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=735971
:thumbup: at Kimbo with 2 or 3 MMA fights under his belt beating Chuck Lidell.
If Liddell fought the exact same fight that he did in his 2nd fight vs Rampage then I would give good odds to Kimbo. I agree with BustedKnuckles in saying that Liddell's technique in throwing his punches is horrible. If he stepped into a boxing ring against a good amateur he would get knocked out in the 1st rd. I believe that Liddell is the better overall fighter at this point, but Kimbo's style is all wrong for Liddell at this point in his career. You could see Liddell did not want any part of Rampage's punches in their 2nd fight.
So we're talking about boxing?
we are talking about fighting styles....how often have you seen liddell use ANY of his ''other styles '' besides striking,even when it would be to his advantage??? He loves to stand up and punch,thats where Kimbo would hold his own. You guys talk like Kimbo just started to learn how to fight...let me tell ya,fighting is 90% mental and kimbo has been throwing down since he was 13 yo...he`s not exactly new to the world of confrontation.
 

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