Kipers' 2006 Draft Book (1 Viewer)

[el centro]

Has anyone purchased Kipers' Draft Guide this season or year's past? Is it worth the value?

The Draft mag's are all WAY out-dated, and seem to lack the proper information. Most of them are still missing the FA-signings & trades.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

My copy hasn't arrived yet.

Yes, I found Kiper's 2005 guide helpful, but I should mention that I haven't watched a college football game in years. (My wife would go Taliban on me if I watched football all day Sunday AND Saturday). So yeah I pretty much rely on Kiper and PFW for my rookie scouting reports.

 

[Despyzer]

My copy hasn't arrived yet.

That's a good thing. It probably means they are delaying publishing for as long as possible to include the most up-to-date information.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Just got mine today. I've decided I like Coyle and PFW better and will decide if I like Kiper enough to keep getting 3 "big" guides next year, or just keep it at 2.

 

[Kleck.]

Got mine today and I am very happy with it. About 80 pages of player write-ups with draft grades, 4 round mock, top five needs breakout for each team and senior write-ups and rankings along with underclassman ranking. It's nothing flashy, but loaded with alot of good material and makes for a great reference during the draft and in later years.

 

[Despyzer]

Just got mine today. I've decided I like Coyle and PFW better and will decide if I like Kiper enough to keep getting 3 "big" guides next year, or just keep it at 2.

This post is pretty helpful. Instead of just saying good/bad it makes comparisons. I'm curious as to what makes Coyle and PFW better though (I've never bought any of them, but I may next year).

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Just got mine today. I've decided I like Coyle and PFW better and will decide if I like Kiper enough to keep getting 3 "big" guides next year, or just keep it at 2.

This post is pretty helpful. Instead of just saying good/bad it makes comparisons. I'm curious as to what makes Coyle and PFW better though (I've never bought any of them, but I may next year).

I haven't had the time to read through Kiper yet, but the past two years I felt like his analysis was more slanted to when a player will get drafted rather than how successful they will be in the NFL. There is some bias to that degree in every draft publication and I'm sure you can make a successful living matching what order the teams generally like them because they are overall quite successful at establishing which players will make it. But his comments in the past have seemed to be more slanted toward what teams are looking at a player as opposed to how they look on film and what skills translate to the NFL. I feel that Coyle and PFW do a better job at this. But I am interested in reading through Kiper this year. Just off the top, I see that he has Tarvaris Jackson and Miles Austin much higher than I've seen them before and Jerious Norwood lower than I see elsewhere. Should be interesting to read why.

 

[Despyzer]

I haven't had the time to read through Kiper yet, but the past two years I felt like his analysis was more slanted to when a player will get drafted rather than how successful they will be in the NFL. There is some bias to that degree in every draft publication and I'm sure you can make a successful living matching what order the teams generally like them because they are overall quite successful at establishing which players will make it. But his comments in the past have seemed to be more slanted toward what teams are looking at a player as opposed to how they look on film and what skills translate to the NFL. I feel that Coyle and PFW do a better job at this. But I am interested in reading through Kiper this year. Just off the top, I see that he has Tarvaris Jackson and Miles Austin much higher than I've seen them before and Jerious Norwood lower than I see elsewhere. Should be interesting to read why.

Thanks, I think I see what you are saying. Kiper might help more in the days leading up to the draft if you are trying to speculate as to who goes where, but Coyle and PFW are more helpful getting an idea as to which teams actually did better in the draft.Very helpful.

 

[Benchwarmers]

Can someone list Kipers 2007 and 2008 top players for the draft in those years. Would be interesting if he can get them right this early in time. I bet he gets 2 out of 10 right. LOL

Thanks in advance.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

I haven't had the time to read through Kiper yet, but the past two years I felt like his analysis was more slanted to when a player will get drafted rather than how successful they will be in the NFL. There is some bias to that degree in every draft publication and I'm sure you can make a successful living matching what order the teams generally like them because they are overall quite successful at establishing which players will make it. But his comments in the past have seemed to be more slanted toward what teams are looking at a player as opposed to how they look on film and what skills translate to the NFL. I feel that Coyle and PFW do a better job at this. But I am interested in reading through Kiper this year. Just off the top, I see that he has Tarvaris Jackson and Miles Austin much higher than I've seen them before and Jerious Norwood lower than I see elsewhere. Should be interesting to read why.

Thanks, I think I see what you are saying. Kiper might help more in the days leading up to the draft if you are trying to speculate as to who goes where, but Coyle and PFW are more helpful getting an idea as to which teams actually did better in the draft.Very helpful.

Exactly! That's how I feel anyway. In fact, this year I'm really trying to concentrate more on "scouting" the players rather than get caught up in the "who likes who" guessing game going on. I'll worry about immediate opportunity for these players after the draft. No point in slipping Maroney further up the list than he deserves just because people think he may go to Indy.

 

[el centro]

Just got mine today. I've decided I like Coyle and PFW better and will decide if I like Kiper enough to keep getting 3 "big" guides next year, or just keep it at 2.

Forgive my ignorance, but which publication is Coyle's?Also, does anyone know if PFW will put out a more up-to-date publication... which is more accurate in assessing team needs / draft speculation - based on the FA-signings & trades?

 

[Warpig]

Hey guys, does anyone know how I can paste a document in here that is in excel format? I have a document that ranks 403 draft prospects and it has several columns but when I try to cut and paste everything gets out of alignment.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

Just got mine today. I've decided I like Coyle and PFW better and will decide if I like Kiper enough to keep getting 3 "big" guides next year, or just keep it at 2.

Forgive my ignorance, but which publication is Coyle's?Also, does anyone know if PFW will put out a more up-to-date publication... which is more accurate in assessing team needs / draft speculation - based on the FA-signings & trades?

It's actually called Draft Insiders

 

[rzrback77]

Hey guys, does anyone know how I can paste a document in here that is in excel format? I have a document that ranks 403 draft prospects and it has several columns but when I try to cut and paste everything gets out of alignment.

Perhaps send a PM to a few staff members for suggestions. I've tried this before without any luck.

 

[smithkt]

Save the file as a .prn file. This creates a text file with fixed width columns. Cut and paste from this file and wrap in code tags. Should do the trick.

 

[Bad_Mo]

I'm curious if anyone has analyzed this empty suit's predictions over the last 5 years.

I'd like to see a list of guys he rated high that really suck balls, and guys that didn't make his infamous Big Board that are quality NFLers. I bet his hit ratio isn't as good as you'd think.......and, this is supposedly his job.

 

[ConstruxBoy]

For those of you whom don't have all/any of the "big 3" draft guides and wanted a little something for comparison purposes, here are some of the major differences among them at the 3 major fantasy positions the last two years (higher = liked him more):

2005

QB:

Coyle - Higher on Orton, lower on Campbell than others/average

Kiper - Lower on Walter

PFW - Higher on Greene

RB:

Coyle - Only one of 11 I tracked with Caddy as #1 RB, lower on Arrington

Kiper - Lower on Shelton, Higher on Moats

PFW - Not much, a little higher on Pearman than most

WR:

Coyle - Higher on Henry, lower on Thorpe

Kiper - Higher on Parrish, lower on R Brown

PFW - Lower on Henry

2006

QB:

Coyle - Higher on McNeal, lower on Clemens

Kiper - Higher on Clemens, lower on Meyer

PFW - Higher on Hackney, lower on Jacobs

RB:

Coyle - Higher on Lundy, lower on Harrison

Kiper - Higher on Daniels, lower on Norwood

PFW - Higher on Washinghton, lower on Drew

WR:

Coyle - Higher on Nance, lower on BWilliams

Kiper - Much higher on Miles Austin, lower on Avant

PFW - Higher on Marshall

Much, much too early to decide who's "right". But maybe this can help you decide who's opinions match or conflict with your own.