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Considering that Warner already has a 90+ passer rating and already ranks in the top 10 in YPA and TDs, I'd say that he has more incentive to stay on the bench this week.The only way he could lose would be if Rivers or Manning threw for 5 TDs, or if Kitna or Anderson had 10+ YPA (on 300+ yards) this week.
But he has much, MORE more to lose by playing. One bad throw and his passer rating would drop below 90. He could also potentially drop out of the top 10 in YPA if he has a bad game (and Kitna and/or Anderson go off).
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tribecalledjeff
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Wait, I thought there was no such thing as added incentive? I read somewhere that players give 100% every week.
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Bottom line: if Warner sits, this is what he's guaranteed:$500,000 for 90+ passer rating
$500,000 being in the Top-10 in TD passes (unless Rivers throws for 5 TDs)
$500,000 being in the Top-10 in YPA (unless Kitna or Anderson throw for 300+ yards on <30 attempts)
But if Warner plays, this is what could happen:
-$500,000 if his passer rating is 89 or lower
-$500,000 if his YPA is less than 7.5 and Kitna or Anderson throw for 300+ yards on <35 attempts
Plus, he has no incentive to play for the Yardage bonus, because his contract only allows a max of $1.5M in bonuses anyway.
southeastjerome
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So the bottom line is that since Warner is playing, he's got some extra motivation to do well.
Gopher State
Footballguy
good for Warner, one of the better guys in the NFL
mad sweeney
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We'll see if he gets them. The Bidwells have been among the very cheapest owners in the league, or any sport, for decades. If they don't plan on Kurt being a major part of the team I can't see them "giving" him 1.5 mil in a meaningless game. They may have changed their ways a bit in recent years, but I grew up there and saw too many cases of their cheapness on display so I'll believe it when I see it.Gopher State said:
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Are you suggesting that they would void an NFL contract? Is there a precedence for this?
he might be saying that the Cardinals pull Warner for enough of the game for him to lose one or more of the incentives...
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Precisely my point.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
No I'm suggesting that Bidwell may find a way to keep Warner from achieving those incentives, unless he plans on having Warner around next year for sure. If he's going to be, then there's no point in pissing off a player. It's almost impossible to describe how cheap the Bidwells were/are. These are the guys who try to cover their losses not by getting players in to win, but to raise ticket prices for bench seating at a college stadium. It wasn't until they lost their yearly sellout of Dallas fans when they were bounced from the NFCE that they started to pay players. Maybe things have changed, they sold out their season, they have some players now, and the crowd is actually boisterous and supportive. But i can see the fingers tighten on the pursestrings out of habit if nothing else now that they're out of the playoffs.
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Just threw a TD to hit 90.3. As long as he doesn't throw any INTs he should be OK.
Also....it probably won't be a factor, but if his passer rating drops he could still get a $500K bonus if he throws for more than 263 yards (and 134 more than Cutler). Currently he's 95 yards behind Cutler.
Also....it probably won't be a factor, but if his passer rating drops he could still get a $500K bonus if he throws for more than 263 yards (and 134 more than Cutler). Currently he's 95 yards behind Cutler.
mad sweeney
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You see the Bidwells' cheap genius? They counted on him to lose the bonuses himself.
The Man Who Met Andy Griffith
Footballguy
By my calculations, he now has 89.9 for the season.
3-5-STL15 (4:08) K.Warner pass incomplete short left to E.James.
4-5-STL15 (4:02) N.Rackers 33 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-N.Hodel, Holder-M.Berger.
If Edge catches that pass,Warner clears 90.0 for the season
3-5-STL15 (4:08) K.Warner pass incomplete short left to E.James.
4-5-STL15 (4:02) N.Rackers 33 yard field goal is GOOD, Center-N.Hodel, Holder-M.Berger.
If Edge catches that pass,Warner clears 90.0 for the season
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Ouch for Warner.
John Black
Footballguy
That sucks
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Yes, but he would have got those bonuses even if he didn't play.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I don't think he's too upset about earning an extra million. Had Lienart not gotten hurt he wouldn't have gotten anything.
Craig_MiamiFL
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Great year by Warner. The guy was dynamite at home.
If you look at his final #'s, they look a lot like the best case scenario for Leinart was coming into the 2007 season.
If you look at his final #'s, they look a lot like the best case scenario for Leinart was coming into the 2007 season.
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