La'el Collins stock just dropped (1 Viewer)

[cstu]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

 

[lod01]

If I was a GM I would have used a 7th on him simply because how often does a 7th rounder even do something. Teams really over rate their 6th and 7th rd. draft picks.

I really should be an NFL GM the way these bozos miss the boat so often.

 

[Anarchy99]

If I was a GM I would have used a 7th on him simply because how often does a 7th rounder even do something. Teams really over rate their 6th and 7th rd. draft picks.

I really should be an NFL GM the way these bozos miss the boat so often.

And if you burned your 7th round pick and he refused to sign and became a first round pick for another team next year, then what?

 

[cstu]

If I was a GM I would have used a 7th on him simply because how often does a 7th rounder even do something. Teams really over rate their 6th and 7th rd. draft picks.

I really should be an NFL GM the way these bozos miss the boat so often.

And if you burned your 7th round pick and he refused to sign and became a first round pick for another team next year, then what?

Then I burned a pick I could have used on a player who was likely going to going to get cut anyway and forced a team to spend a 1st on him instead of getting for nothing.

 

[Max Power]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Not hard at all IMO. The question I have is (and this could just be the reporting) why say an overnight trip? Indicating a single night. The night of the 24th. The Warriors/Pelicans game was an 8est start on the 25th. Normal people plan trips to spend THAT night locally, not the night before. Just saying...

 

[massraider]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Clearly he needed time to get his fake emails and faked cell phone GPS data together.

 

[spider321]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Not hard at all IMO. The question I have is (and this could just be the reporting) why say an overnight trip? Indicating a single night. The night of the 24th. The Warriors/Pelicans game was an 8est start on the 25th. Normal people plan trips to spend THAT night locally, not the night before. Just saying...

Whole lotta fishy going on.

 

[menobrown]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

The public means nothing and none of us know if he did not inform the only people that matter, NFL teams, of this very thing.

Also people need to keep in mind he asked to speak to the police before the draft. Since he had not spoke with them and would not know the nature of their questions or allegations it's generally a smart move to not go around issuing public statements until that process plays out. Innocent or not.

As for his airtight alibi, I don't doubt it one bit. Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man.

As for teams passing on him and not risking a 7th round pick I will always think collusion was involved and I doubt anything will ever change my mind. Just think the word got put out in a way that teams knew not to risk marring draft weekend by selecting him and to avoid the ensuing drama of a potential first round pick being locked into 7th round pay for a few seasons.

 

[Grahamburn]

If I was going to pay someone to murder my Ex I'd probably make sure I was at a sporting event with some pals too.

 

[spider321]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Clearly he needed time to get his fake emails and faked cell phone GPS data together.

mass is still praying for OJ to find the real killer.

 

[cstu]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Not hard at all IMO. The question I have is (and this could just be the reporting) why say an overnight trip? Indicating a single night. The night of the 24th. The Warriors/Pelicans game was an 8est start on the 25th. Normal people plan trips to spend THAT night locally, not the night before. Just saying...

Even if he did go for an overnight trip an hour away (it was NO after all):

- How did he get there? Did he have his own car?

- Did he drive there alone or with people?

- Where did he stay? If a hotel, what time did he check in?

- Who saw him that Friday night at 9:30pm?

 

[Ron_Mexico]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Clearly he needed time to get his fake emails and faked cell phone GPS data together.

mass is still praying for OJ to find the real killer.

I've too have been waiting for OJ to be true to his word and find the real killers.

Unfortunately his incarceration has delayed his search.

I'm confident the "real killers" will be brought to justice, once Oranthal

busts out the clink and finds those bad guys.

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

Not hard at all IMO. The question I have is (and this could just be the reporting) why say an overnight trip? Indicating a single night. The night of the 24th. The Warriors/Pelicans game was an 8est start on the 25th. Normal people plan trips to spend THAT night locally, not the night before. Just saying...

Even if he did go for an overnight trip an hour away (it was NO after all):

- How did he get there? Did he have his own car?

- Did he drive there alone or with people?

- Where did he stay? If a hotel, what time did he check in?

- Who saw him that Friday night at 9:30pm?

shouldn't you be addressing these questions to him rather than us?

 

[Deamon]

If I was a GM I would have used a 7th on him simply because how often does a 7th rounder even do something. Teams really over rate their 6th and 7th rd. draft picks.

I really should be an NFL GM the way these bozos miss the boat so often.

And if you burned your 7th round pick and he refused to sign and became a first round pick for another team next year, then what?

Then I burned a pick I could have used on a player who was likely going to going to get cut anyway and forced a team to spend a 1st on him instead of getting for nothing.

"forcing" a team that you likely won't play the next year, to 'burn' a first round pick is worth a 7th? Not even close. Just because he's "likely" to get cut, doesn't mean any GM in their right mind would just throw it away for nothing. You could have a huge steal there or a guy that can contribute... and lose that chance just so some other team has to lose a 1st rounder next year?

Plus the terrible publicity. Not even closely worth it.... which is obvious as all 32 GM's agree.

 

[Capella]

If I was a GM I would have used a 7th on him simply because how often does a 7th rounder even do something. Teams really over rate their 6th and 7th rd. draft picks.

I really should be an NFL GM the way these bozos miss the boat so often.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

NJ.com's Jordan Raanan said the Giants are "in the mix" for LSU G/T La'El Collins.

Collins has a connection to Giants wideout Odell Beckham Jr., having played with him at LSU. Now that Collins is not a suspect in the murder of his ex-girlfriend, teams are lining up for his services. Despite taking two offensive linemen in last week's draft, it remains an area of need for the Giants. The first-team All-SEC selection has also been pursued by the Bills, Bucs, Chargers and Dolphins.

Related: Giants

Source: NJ.com
May 6 - 9:38 AM

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

The Chargers are one of the teams interested in meeting with LSU G/T La'El Collins.

He isn't allowed to meet with teams until LSU's school year ends on May 9. Collins went undrafted over the weekend following the murder of his ex-girlfriend, but he has fully cooperated with police and is not considered a suspect. The Bills, Buccaneers and Dolphins have also been linked to Collins. The 21-year-old is a stud run blocker who profiles as a starting guard in the NFL.

Related: Chargers

Source: Profootballtalk on NBC Sports
May 6 - 8:41 AM

 

[Anarchy99]

At this point, it should be all that a given that 32 teams are "in the mix" for Collins. Which team wouldn't want a Top 10-15 overall draft pick at a massive discount?

 

[massraider]

At this point, it should be all that a given that 32 teams are "in the mix" for Collins. Which team wouldn't want a Top 10-15 overall draft pick at a massive discount?

Teams that think he was involved in a murder.

Maybe his lack of public statement wasn't the obvious admission of guilt some people thought it was.

 

[Anarchy99]

At this point, it should be all that a given that 32 teams are "in the mix" for Collins. Which team wouldn't want a Top 10-15 overall draft pick at a massive discount?

Teams that think he was involved in a murder.

Maybe his lack of public statement wasn't the obvious admission of guilt some people thought it was.

The only two options are he gets cleared or he gets implicated. If he gets charged, he won't be playing, so the "given" in this scenario is he gets cleared. At that point, which of the 32 teams wouldn't at least want to talk to him about playing for their franchise?

My point was, all this reports of TEAM X being the latest team to throw their hat in the ring is going to start looking silly, as every team should at least look into the chance of signing him (again with the caveat that he is ruled out as a suspect in a criminal investigation).

 

[massraider]

I am guessing his agents are leaking this stuff, and his agents have probably ruled out many teams for a lot of reasons.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Chargers have been telling reporters that they'd bring Collins in only as a guard, not a tackle. So if he wants to play tackle in the NFL, the Chargers are out of the running.

 

[Tau837]

The Chargers have been telling reporters that they'd bring Collins in only as a guard, not a tackle. So if he wants to play tackle in the NFL, the Chargers are out of the running.

I hadn't heard that. On the way home from work yesterday, I heard an interview with Telesco on the subject and his position was not addressed. The radio host was suggesting that since the money will be fixed, two of the discriminators could/should be:

1. Guaranteeing his contract for all 3 years. Not a big risk, as he will only stand to make a total of $1.6M. Seems worth it, given he is cleared.

2. Guaranteeing him at least a chance to compete for the RT spot, if not outright guaranteeing him of starting at RT. The rationale is that tackles get paid more, so if he spends his three years on the low contract at tackle rather than guard, he will stand to get paid more on his second contract. That assumes he will play well, but looking at it from Collins' standpoint, he is sure to assume that.

Personally, I thought the Chargers were an unlikely candidate, anyway, for tax reasons. Given the money is fixed, if he has a chance to start for multiple teams, it seems that going where he will lose less money to taxes could easily be a tiebreaker. If so, that's not California.

 

[Bob Magaw]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

The public means nothing and none of us know if he did not inform the only people that matter, NFL teams, of this very thing.

Also people need to keep in mind he asked to speak to the police before the draft. Since he had not spoke with them and would not know the nature of their questions or allegations it's generally a smart move to not go around issuing public statements until that process plays out. Innocent or not.

As for his airtight alibi, I don't doubt it one bit. Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man.

As for teams passing on him and not risking a 7th round pick I will always think collusion was involved and I doubt anything will ever change my mind. Just think the word got put out in a way that teams knew not to risk marring draft weekend by selecting him and to avoid the ensuing drama of a potential first round pick being locked into 7th round pay for a few seasons.

"Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man."

Exactly. I have no idea if he was involved, just objected to Perry Mason amateur hour until some facts were in (he hired a lawyer, he must be the killer!).

Whether he had some level of involvement or not, that is going to be hard to establish until they solve the case. What if it remains an unsolved homicide? And the police can't establish a connection, but can't rule it out, either? I can't see the police holding a press conference informing the media and NFL he is free to be signed by another team. That end game is pretty fuzzy to me at the moment. Seems like he could be in limbo for a while, if the case remains on the books.

 

[massraider]

So if he signs with any team other than Texas or Florida teams,can we put the tax argument to rest?

 

[cstu]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

The public means nothing and none of us know if he did not inform the only people that matter, NFL teams, of this very thing.

Also people need to keep in mind he asked to speak to the police before the draft. Since he had not spoke with them and would not know the nature of their questions or allegations it's generally a smart move to not go around issuing public statements until that process plays out. Innocent or not.

As for his airtight alibi, I don't doubt it one bit. Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man.

As for teams passing on him and not risking a 7th round pick I will always think collusion was involved and I doubt anything will ever change my mind. Just think the word got put out in a way that teams knew not to risk marring draft weekend by selecting him and to avoid the ensuing drama of a potential first round pick being locked into 7th round pay for a few seasons.

"Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man."

Exactly. I have no idea if he was involved, just objected to Perry Mason amateur hour until some facts were in (he hired a lawyer, he must be the killer!).

Whether he had some level of involvement or not, that is going to be hard to establish until they solve the case. What if it remains an unsolved homicide? And the police can't establish a connection, but can't rule it out, either? I can't see the police holding a press conference informing the media and NFL he is free to be signed by another team. That end game is pretty fuzzy to me at the moment. Seems like he could be in limbo for a while, if the case remains on the books.

There's more indicating he's guilty than there is that he's innocent.

The police are not going to clear him until they charged someone else with the murders. Until that happens, Goodell isn't going to let any team sign him.

 

[SacramentoBob]

So what exactly is the evidence against this guy?

 

[Bob Magaw]

But Collins told investigators he was an hour away in New Orleans at the time of the shooting -- as part of an overnight trip with friends and family to watch the New Orleans Pelicans take on the Golden State Warriors on Saturday April 25th.

If true, how difficult would it have been for him and all the people with him that Friday night to come out publicly before the draft?

The public means nothing and none of us know if he did not inform the only people that matter, NFL teams, of this very thing.

Also people need to keep in mind he asked to speak to the police before the draft. Since he had not spoke with them and would not know the nature of their questions or allegations it's generally a smart move to not go around issuing public statements until that process plays out. Innocent or not.

As for his airtight alibi, I don't doubt it one bit. Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man.

As for teams passing on him and not risking a 7th round pick I will always think collusion was involved and I doubt anything will ever change my mind. Just think the word got put out in a way that teams knew not to risk marring draft weekend by selecting him and to avoid the ensuing drama of a potential first round pick being locked into 7th round pay for a few seasons.

"Of course if you think he might have played a role in her murder it also does zero to absolve his involvement other than it was not possible for him to be the actual trigger man."

Exactly. I have no idea if he was involved, just objected to Perry Mason amateur hour until some facts were in (he hired a lawyer, he must be the killer!).

Whether he had some level of involvement or not, that is going to be hard to establish until they solve the case. What if it remains an unsolved homicide? And the police can't establish a connection, but can't rule it out, either? I can't see the police holding a press conference informing the media and NFL he is free to be signed by another team. That end game is pretty fuzzy to me at the moment. Seems like he could be in limbo for a while, if the case remains on the books.

There's more indicating he's guilty than there is that he's innocent.

The police are not going to clear him until they charged someone else with the murders. Until that happens, Goodell isn't going to let any team sign him.

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

 

[Bob Magaw]

So what exactly is the evidence against this guy?

According to cstu:

1) Hiring a lawyer.

2) Being a fugitive from the police (actually it was just a text from the local media when he was boarding a plane).

3) Avoiding questioning (actually he made himself available but they scheduled it on Monday, which he complied with).

Clearly he is a GHOST FACE KILLAH.

 

[Slapdash]

So what exactly is the evidence against this guy?

Haven't you ever watched Law and Order?

 

[cstu]

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

It wasn't just hiring a lawyer, it was the entire way he reacted from the beginning (delaying talking to police after hiring a lawyer, hiring a PI, not speaking to the media, not having an alibi right away, not having any witnesses to his whereabouts that night speak publicly, etc.)

But if you want to pick on the fact that I said I would have gone directly to the police when they contacted me then go ahead.

 

[cstu]

So what exactly is the evidence against this guy?

According to cstu:

1) Hiring a lawyer.

2) Being a fugitive from the police (actually it was just a text from the local media when he was boarding a plane).

3) Avoiding questioning (actually he made himself available but they scheduled it on Monday, which he complied with).

Clearly he is a GHOST FACE KILLAH.

It's more likely than not that he killed her. The police are staying quiet for a reason.

 

[TartanLion]

There will have been a bunch of teams putting in a lot of interest/time with him pre draft/scandal as one of their top choices. I'd suggest those teams would have the advantage in securing his services with the relationship already built etc.

Strange situation he may find himself in though with the entire league potentially after him.

 

[Bob Magaw]

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

It wasn't just hiring a lawyer, it was the entire way he reacted from the beginning (delaying talking to police after hiring a lawyer, hiring a PI, not speaking to the media, not having an alibi right away, not having any witnesses to his whereabouts that night speak publicly, etc.)

But if you want to pick on the fact that I said I would have gone directly to the police when they contacted me then go ahead.

But since you think hiring a lawyer is a sign of guilt, it kind of makes suspect and taints all the other concerns. Especially when there were several instances of Perry Mason amateur hour rush to judgement ones that were made up (fugitive from the police, no, a media station text, eluding questioning, no, he was available last week and THEY scheduled it MON).Not a mosaic of evidence and guilt, just a web spun out of innuendo and rumor mongering.

 

[KellysHeroes]

whats the point of signing as an UDFA when you can go back to school and be a 1st rounder again?

 

[davearm]

So what exactly is the evidence against this guy?

According to cstu:

1) Hiring a lawyer.

2) Being a fugitive from the police (actually it was just a text from the local media when he was boarding a plane).

3) Avoiding questioning (actually he made himself available but they scheduled it on Monday, which he complied with).

Clearly he is a GHOST FACE KILLAH.

It's more likely than not that he killed her. The police are staying quiet for a reason.

Staying quiet?

"La'el Collins met with investigators while accompanied by his attorney," Baton Rouge Police public information officer Don Coppola told Gannett Louisiana on Monday afternoon. "Collins fully cooperated with investigators and is still not considered a suspect in the homicide of Brittney and Brenton Mills."

I would think as such a zealous seeker of truth, you would have taken note of that news on Monday. But no, you're still here dreaming up "evidence" and insisting he must be guilty.

 

[davearm]

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

It wasn't just hiring a lawyer, it was the entire way he reacted from the beginning (delaying talking to police after hiring a lawyer, hiring a PI, not speaking to the media, not having an alibi right away, not having any witnesses to his whereabouts that night speak publicly, etc.)

But if you want to pick on the fact that I said I would have gone directly to the police when they contacted me then go ahead.

He didn't delay talking to police. Actually, the police delayed their meeting with him.

He hired a PI to try and salvage his draft status.

He does claim to have an alibi.

He has no reason to be saying anything publicly. "The public" doesn't have the authority to jail him or hire him to play in the NFL.

So sorry you think you're entitled to an explanation. You're not.

 

[jtd13]

whats the point of signing as an UDFA when you can go back to school and be a 1st rounder again?

He needed to be drafted in order to enter next year's draft.

 

[Faust]

Rex Ryan refuses to discuss La'el Collins meeting

 

[SacramentoBob]

So... no evidence then.

 

[cstu]

So what exactly is the evidence against this guy?

According to cstu:

1) Hiring a lawyer.

2) Being a fugitive from the police (actually it was just a text from the local media when he was boarding a plane).

3) Avoiding questioning (actually he made himself available but they scheduled it on Monday, which he complied with).

Clearly he is a GHOST FACE KILLAH.

It's more likely than not that he killed her. The police are staying quiet for a reason.

Staying quiet?

"La'el Collins met with investigators while accompanied by his attorney," Baton Rouge Police public information officer Don Coppola told Gannett Louisiana on Monday afternoon. "Collins fully cooperated with investigators and is still not considered a suspect in the homicide of Brittney and Brenton Mills."

I would think as such a zealous seeker of truth, you would have taken note of that news on Monday. But no, you're still here dreaming up "evidence" and insisting he must be guilty.

Robert Blake "not a suspect"

Police have questioned Blake twice and searched his house, but said the star of the 1970s show Baretta, who became famous as the tough cop with a soft side and a pet cockatoo named Fred, is not considered a suspect in the homicide of his wife, Leebonny "Bonnie" Bakley, 45.

 

[cstu]

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

It wasn't just hiring a lawyer, it was the entire way he reacted from the beginning (delaying talking to police after hiring a lawyer, hiring a PI, not speaking to the media, not having an alibi right away, not having any witnesses to his whereabouts that night speak publicly, etc.)

But if you want to pick on the fact that I said I would have gone directly to the police when they contacted me then go ahead.

He didn't delay talking to police. Actually, the police delayed their meeting with him.

He hired a PI to try and salvage his draft status.

He does claim to have an alibi.

He has no reason to be saying anything publicly. "The public" doesn't have the authority to jail him or hire him to play in the NFL.

So sorry you think you're entitled to an explanation. You're not.

They were trying since the day after the murder (on Saturday) to talk to him. He texted a news channel on Tuesday that he was in Atlanta boarding a plane for Chicago for the draft.

 

[Faust]

Rotoworld:

LSU G/T La'El Collins wants to sign with a team that will allow him to play tackle.

Collins is drawing heavy interest after going undrafted last weekend. The Baton Rouge Police should clear Collins' name in the murder of his ex-girlfriend shortly, allowing Collins to sign with a team. Playing tackle will help maximize his earnings on a second contract since he won't be getting paid much the first two years in the league. The Dolphins would seem to be longshots to land Collins with this news, since they already have LT Branden Albert and RT Ja'Wuan James.

Source: Barry Jackson on Twitter
May 6 - 2:26 PM

 

[Anarchy99]

Saying that someone is "not a suspect" doesn't mean a whole lot. Not saying that Collins did or did not do anything but . . .

Aaron Hernandez not a suspect, but questioned in homicide probe

Posted by Michael David Smith on June 18, 2013, 6:15 PM EDT
Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez has reportedly been questioned in a homicide investigation, although he is not considered a suspect.

Sports Illustrated reports that Hernandez was questioned by police investigating a possible homicide in North Attleboro, Massachusetts. The report says police talked to Hernandez on Monday and may seek to search his home as well. But the report adds that “Hernandez is not believed to be a murder suspect.”

The Sun Chronicle, a local newspaper in North Attleboro, reports that a 27-year-old Boston man’s body was found on Monday afternoon and may have been there for more than a day. That report said police found a 2013 Chevrolet Suburban registered to Enterprise car rental, and that police believe the car is connected to the homicide. The Sports Illustrated report indicates that the car was rented in Hernandez’s name.

Hernandez, his agents and his lawyer have all declined to comment publicly on the case.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

The Chargers have been telling reporters that they'd bring Collins in only as a guard, not a tackle. So if he wants to play tackle in the NFL, the Chargers are out of the running.

I hadn't heard that. On the way home from work yesterday, I heard an interview with Telesco on the subject and his position was not addressed. The radio host was suggesting that since the money will be fixed, two of the discriminators could/should be:

1. Guaranteeing his contract for all 3 years. Not a big risk, as he will only stand to make a total of $1.6M. Seems worth it, given he is cleared.

2. Guaranteeing him at least a chance to compete for the RT spot, if not outright guaranteeing him of starting at RT. The rationale is that tackles get paid more, so if he spends his three years on the low contract at tackle rather than guard, he will stand to get paid more on his second contract. That assumes he will play well, but looking at it from Collins' standpoint, he is sure to assume that.

Personally, I thought the Chargers were an unlikely candidate, anyway, for tax reasons. Given the money is fixed, if he has a chance to start for multiple teams, it seems that going where he will lose less money to taxes could easily be a tiebreaker. If so, that's not California.

Update from Telesco's chat today: "We have put a tremendous amount of work in on La'el Collins, before and after the draft. We will see how the situation concludes."

The comment that the Chargers want to keep Fluker at tackle and therefore would consider Collins only at guard came from Acee, and I think maybe Gehlken and Eric Williams, but I can't remember. I know I've seen it in more than one place.

 

[Tau837]

So if he signs with any team other than Texas or Florida teams,can we put the tax argument to rest?

Those aren't the only states. Washington has no state income tax, and I think there is at least one other.

Why do you think that argument needs to be put to rest? I posted a link earlier that showed that Andrew Gachkar signing in Dallas saved him an estimated $300K (on a guaranteed $2.2M) compared to signing the same contract with New England and $600K compared to signing the same contract to stay in San Diego.

The article points out that a lot of other factors matter but also said the tax implications/savings are one of the first factors considered.

 

[davearm]

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

It wasn't just hiring a lawyer, it was the entire way he reacted from the beginning (delaying talking to police after hiring a lawyer, hiring a PI, not speaking to the media, not having an alibi right away, not having any witnesses to his whereabouts that night speak publicly, etc.)

But if you want to pick on the fact that I said I would have gone directly to the police when they contacted me then go ahead.

He didn't delay talking to police. Actually, the police delayed their meeting with him.

He hired a PI to try and salvage his draft status.

He does claim to have an alibi.

He has no reason to be saying anything publicly. "The public" doesn't have the authority to jail him or hire him to play in the NFL.

So sorry you think you're entitled to an explanation. You're not.

They were trying since the day after the murder (on Saturday) to talk to him. He texted a news channel on Tuesday that he was in Atlanta boarding a plane for Chicago for the draft.

Link please.

 

[cstu]

Coming from somebody who thinks hiring a lawyer is sign of guilt, despite virtually 99% of the thread trying to disabuse you of the notion, pardon me for taking this with a grain of salt.

It wasn't just hiring a lawyer, it was the entire way he reacted from the beginning (delaying talking to police after hiring a lawyer, hiring a PI, not speaking to the media, not having an alibi right away, not having any witnesses to his whereabouts that night speak publicly, etc.)

But if you want to pick on the fact that I said I would have gone directly to the police when they contacted me then go ahead.

He didn't delay talking to police. Actually, the police delayed their meeting with him.

He hired a PI to try and salvage his draft status.

He does claim to have an alibi.

He has no reason to be saying anything publicly. "The public" doesn't have the authority to jail him or hire him to play in the NFL.

So sorry you think you're entitled to an explanation. You're not.

They were trying since the day after the murder (on Saturday) to talk to him. He texted a news channel on Tuesday that he was in Atlanta boarding a plane for Chicago for the draft.

Link please.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000488760/article/lael-collins-police-to-schedule-interview-after-draft

Police initially reached out to Collins on Saturday, a day after the shooting. According to Coppola, the Baton Rouge PD has not spoken with Collins directly, but has made contact with a family member, as well as Collins' agent and attorney. Coppola said that, per Collins' request, the police and Collins agreed to set a time to meet after the draft.

 

[cstu]

http://www.nola.com/lsu/index.ssf/2015/05/lsu_lael_collins_police_questi_1.html

Reporter: "Why did y'all wait so long to talk to them? Why not do this last week?"

Attorney Boren "Um, you know that's, uh, um, I'm really not going to answer any more questions about that. I think the way the process works in many, many cases.

 

[Bob Magaw]

If so, first time I heard it. Wouldn't the thread have already been peppered with links by cstu if that had been announced AS STATED earlier?

But no need to let facts intrude on a good yarn.

* What I'm getting from that is intermediaries talked with police Saturday. It isn't like they refused to answer calls from the police. It than states the police and Collins scheduled a time after the draft to conduct the interview. Maybe you have another link, but it doesn't say who scheduled that time.

If he really was the chief suspect, wouldn't they have demanded, insisted he come in on their terms? If police had called Hernandez the day after the Lloyd murder, and he had said, yea, no, I'm going to be visiting the Smithsonian Museum all week, how do you think that would that have worked out for him?

If in fact Collins did schedule that time (not clear here), wouldn't that if anything lend more credence to his being innocent, that the police had no issue with the request (some forensics tests are time sensitive)?

* I missed the request part of the quote. But than the last part would still stand and be my question, they definitely wouldn't have let Hernandez set the terms.