La'el Collins stock just dropped (1 Viewer)

[On The Rocks]

I don't know why people wouldn't think this would cause his stock to drop. If you're looking at your draft board and you are picking between 10-20 (I don't know exactly where he would have been targeted if this incident hadn't occurred); but each team has to have a handful of guys targeted in that range, and if two days ago, Collins was #15 on your board - I have no problem picking the next guy down on my list just because of the unknown. There is too much at stake to ignore the story with not enough time to get all the facts. The question is how many slots below where you have Collins on your board are you willing to skip down before some team will be willing to take the risk that he will be exonerated.

The timing of this story is just horrible.

 

[Khy]

I don't know why people wouldn't think this would cause his stock to drop. If you're looking at your draft board and you are picking between 10-20 (I don't know exactly where he would have been targeted if this incident hadn't occurred); but each team has to have a handful of guys targeted in that range, and if two days ago, Collins was #15 on your board - I have no problem picking the next guy down on my list just because of the unknown. There is too much at stake to ignore the story with not enough time to get all the facts. The question is how many slots below where you have Collins on your board are you willing to skip down before you are willing to take the risk that he will be exonerated.

The timing of this story is just horrible.

Nah, I agree. At first I thought it was stupid but at that point I didn't know many details besides "Collins is being questioned about a murder in Louisiana but isn't seen as a suspect". And I figured, it's not a big deal, they don't even mention if he's tied to it. But the more I thought about it, with Aaron Hernandez so fresh in everyone's mind recently because of his conviction. I can see why this would cause a huge stock drop. That said, I don't agree with the 'undraftable' portion I'm hearing. I feel like if say you're a tackle needy team like the Giants and he's sitting there in the 3rd round and you haven't taken Flowers/Scherff etc. that he's worth the risk. You figure, after the 2nd round all these guys are a crap shoot anyway. Why not take the risk on a guy who has leaps and bounds better talent then all the others?

So no, I don't see him falling completely out of the draft, but I agree unless this is 100% cleared up prior to tonight, there's zero chance he comes off the board until half way through tomorrow night.

 

[Bob Magaw]

I don't think many disagree it will impact his stock (timing, like the act, heinous), just that hiring a lawyer or PI to possibly expedite witness depositions equates to presumed guilt, a pretty outrageous and absurd premise, on the face of it.

* Or conflating being informed by a radio station while departing for a flight, with being a fugitive from police questioning.

 

[stbugs]

I don't get the talk to police first. He better before the draft starts, but I don't blame him for lawyering up and hiring a PI. Him stating his alibi even if airtight is not the same as someone digging up proof for him that he wasn't involved. If he doesn't have story and clarity before the draft, then I think he's got a lot more to worry about.

 

[On The Rocks]

I don't think many disagree it will impact his stock (timing, like the act, heinous), just that hiring a lawyer equates to presumed guilt, a pretty outrageous and absurd premise, on the face of it.

Agreed. Like a few others have posted, you would be a fool to not lawyer up even if the crime took place today at 8pm while you're on camera hugging the Commissioner in Chicago 1500 miles away from the scene.

 

[Bob Magaw]

I don't think many disagree it will impact his stock (timing, like the act, heinous), just that hiring a lawyer equates to presumed guilt, a pretty outrageous and absurd premise, on the face of it.

Agreed. Like a few others have posted, you would be a fool to not lawyer up even if the crime took place today at 8pm while you're on camera hugging the Commissioner in Chicago 1500 miles away from the scene.

(crying on the inside kind of hysterically funny smiley, due to the tragedy, a miracle and blessing the baby survived).

 

[davearm]

So getting a lawyer and not talking to cops = guilty? Some of you are scary statists.

Yes. Avoiding police questioning in the murder of your "baby momma" for DAYS does equal guilty.

Of course, that information by itself won't hold up in court...

...but in the court of common sense, he killed that girl or knows darn well who did.

Are you and cstu really this naive? You never talk to the police about something like this without a lawyer. Guilty, innocent. Doesn't matter. The smart move, and your constitutional right, is to lawyer up and not provide info without counsel.

Yes, it is his constitutional right to have a lawyer present, but why has he STILL not cooperated with the police? And hiring a P.I. to "prove" you weren't there?! Really? Why not just tell the police where you were and then hire the P.I. if need be.

Collins is acting like a man who expects to be arrested. Collins is acting like a man who is guilty.

I halfway expect to see him riding down the highway in a white Bronco any moment now.

He's acting like a smart man with good counsel trying not to let this extremely poorly timed news ruin his chance at millions of dollars.

So you think that NFL GM's will look favorably on his decision to not cooperate with the police?

There's no reason to believe he's not cooperating with the police.

 

[spider321]

So getting a lawyer and not talking to cops = guilty? Some of you are scary statists.

Yes. Avoiding police questioning in the murder of your "baby momma" for DAYS does equal guilty.

Of course, that information by itself won't hold up in court...

...but in the court of common sense, he killed that girl or knows darn well who did.

Are you and cstu really this naive? You never talk to the police about something like this without a lawyer. Guilty, innocent. Doesn't matter. The smart move, and your constitutional right, is to lawyer up and not provide info without counsel.

Yes, it is his constitutional right to have a lawyer present, but why has he STILL not cooperated with the police? And hiring a P.I. to "prove" you weren't there?! Really? Why not just tell the police where you were and then hire the P.I. if need be.

Collins is acting like a man who expects to be arrested. Collins is acting like a man who is guilty.

I halfway expect to see him riding down the highway in a white Bronco any moment now.

He's acting like a smart man with good counsel trying not to let this extremely poorly timed news ruin his chance at millions of dollars.

So you think that NFL GM's will look favorably on his decision to not cooperate with the police?

There's no reason to believe he's not cooperating with the police.

"On Tuesday, the attorney for LSU tackle La’El Collins said that his client would sit down and talk to Baton Rouge police as part of their investigation into the murder of his pregnant ex-girlfriend."

"There was no contact with the police on Wednesday, however, and a lieutenant with the Baton Rouge Police Department told John Kryk of the Toronto Sun that as “of this morning, detectives working the case still have not heard from Collins or his attorney."

Today is Thursday. What is he waiting for?

Methinks he is enjoying his last couple of days of freedom.

 

[cstu]

I don't think many disagree it will impact his stock (timing, like the act, heinous), just that hiring a lawyer or PI to possibly expedite witness depositions equates to presumed guilt, a pretty outrageous and absurd premise, on the face of it.

* Or conflating being informed by a radio station while departing for a flight, with being a fugitive from police questioning.

You can hire a lawyer and PI but still speak to the police right away.

If he's not a fugitive, where is he right now?

 

[cstu]

This is from a report of the murder when it happened and before Collins was sought for questioning:

A man who lived upstairs from Mills said he had recently helped her unload several large gifts from her car she had received at a baby shower.

The man, who declined to give his name, said Mills always peeked out of her window before answering the door to her apartment.

 

[Khy]

This is from a report of the murder when it happened and before Collins was sought for questioning:

A man who lived upstairs from Mills said he had recently helped her unload several large gifts from her car she had received at a baby shower.

The man, who declined to give his name, said Mills always peeked out of her window before answering the door to her apartment.

Being that she was shot in cold blood when she answered the door, it leads me to believe that she likely knew she had a reason to fear for her life. Nobody just goes through life perfectly normal and then gets shot on their front porch randomly. She was probably involved in something she wasn't supposed to be involved in, I still have trouble believing that there are witnesses and that Collins could be a suspect if there are or not if there are.

Put it this way, the dude is friggin 6' 5" and 322lbs. It's not like we're talking about a report from witnesses that "It was a guy in a dark hoodie. He stood about 5' 9" to 6' 0" and was roughly of average build. He may have been black or white, witnesses say it was dark out".

If there are ANY witnesses whatsoever, it shouldn't take more than 5 - 10 minutes of talking with them to determine if Collins is a suspect or not. If they say "Well, it looked like a Grizzly Bear knocked on her door hten shot her", well then it's probably him. But anything else is unlikely.

 

[davearm]

So getting a lawyer and not talking to cops = guilty? Some of you are scary statists.

Yes. Avoiding police questioning in the murder of your "baby momma" for DAYS does equal guilty.

Of course, that information by itself won't hold up in court...

...but in the court of common sense, he killed that girl or knows darn well who did.

Are you and cstu really this naive? You never talk to the police about something like this without a lawyer. Guilty, innocent. Doesn't matter. The smart move, and your constitutional right, is to lawyer up and not provide info without counsel.

Yes, it is his constitutional right to have a lawyer present, but why has he STILL not cooperated with the police? And hiring a P.I. to "prove" you weren't there?! Really? Why not just tell the police where you were and then hire the P.I. if need be.

Collins is acting like a man who expects to be arrested. Collins is acting like a man who is guilty.

I halfway expect to see him riding down the highway in a white Bronco any moment now.

He's acting like a smart man with good counsel trying not to let this extremely poorly timed news ruin his chance at millions of dollars.

So you think that NFL GM's will look favorably on his decision to not cooperate with the police?

There's no reason to believe he's not cooperating with the police.

"On Tuesday, the attorney for LSU tackle La’El Collins said that his client would sit down and talk to Baton Rouge police as part of their investigation into the murder of his pregnant ex-girlfriend."

"There was no contact with the police on Wednesday, however, and a lieutenant with the Baton Rouge Police Department told John Kryk of the Toronto Sun that as “of this morning, detectives working the case still have not heard from Collins or his attorney."

Today is Thursday. What is he waiting for?

Methinks he is enjoying his last couple of days of freedom.

His attorney said on Tuesday that he would meet with the cops. He didn't say that the meeting itself would take place on Tuesday.

Collins was in Chicago for the draft this week. Not sure how you missed this.

 

[cstu]

LSU OL La'el Collins, police to schedule interview after draft

Apr 30

4/30/2015 11:05:25 AM

LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins and Baton Rouge (Louisiana) Police have resolved to schedule an interview after the NFL draft, Cpl. Don Coppola told Albert Breer of NFL Network on Thursday. This via Gregg Rosenthal of NFL.com. Not date or time has been set.

Collins left Chicago and the NFL draft on Wednesday, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, according to a source. Collins was at an NFL event Wednesday morning, but declined to answer questions from reporters.

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Baton Rouge (Louisiana) Police told NFL Media on Tuesday that they have been in contact with Collins' agent to schedule a meeting concerning what he might know to help them concerning the death of Brittany Mills. Collins is not considered a suspect in Mills' shooting death, which occurred on Friday.

"He's not a suspect, but we are seeking to question him," Corporal Don Coppola told Breer Tuesday. "He knew the victim. We're not sure of the exact nature of the relationship. But for the investigation and through the investigation, we're exhausting all avenues to locate this young lady's killer."

Collins is not the only person they have reached out to regarding this ongoing investigation, Coppola told NFL Media. Coppola emphasized that Collins is not being singled out and that this is standard procedure regarding an investigation of this nature.

 

[jmo87usc]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 19m 19 minutes ago

.@AlbertBreer reports La’El won’t meet with police until post-draft. I’m told police aren’t done with their investigation, not ready for him



So police are still investigating before they meet with him. Could be just to clear up a few things, but I'm curious why the police would publicly call him out as a person of interest so quickly. They have to have known that the timing could be devastating to his career. If he isn't a suspect, it seems that they would have kept it more low key knowing they had to investigate more before questioning. It's not looking good for him. Hopefully I'm wrong..]

 

[BigJim®]

If there are ANY witnesses whatsoever, it shouldn't take more than 5 - 10 minutes of talking with them to determine if Collins is a suspect or not. If they say "Well, it looked like a Grizzly Bear knocked on her door hten shot her", well then it's probably him. But anything else is unlikely.

Really? Are you familiar with the concept of murder for hire? I don't think police can conclusively rule out any suspect who had a plausible motive in 5-10 minutes, on the mere basis that he doesn't match the description of a mysterious stranger who pulled a trigger. Police are going to want to believe that stranger had his own motive to act alone. Rae Carruth didn't pull the trigger. Do you think police would have conclusively ruled him out as a suspect in 5-10 minutes if a witness to the crime said it was not Rae who pulled the trigger? These investigations are ongoing until there is a logical/plausible explanation for the crime. La'el (and all others who have motive) will likely remain a suspect until police catch the killer and are confident he acted alone.

 

[MattFancy]

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 19m 19 minutes ago

.@AlbertBreer reports La’El won’t meet with police until post-draft. I’m told police aren’t done with their investigation, not ready for him



So police are still investigating before they meet with him. Could be just to clear up a few things, but I'm curious why the police would publicly call him out as a person of interest so quickly. They have to have known that the timing could be devastating to his career. If he isn't a suspect, it seems that they would have kept it more low key knowing they had to investigate more before questioning. It's not looking good for him. Hopefully I'm wrong..]

Yeah seems strange they would say he's a person of interest, but then turn around and say they are ready to meet with him. Something isn't right here...

 

[cstu]

Collins was in Chicago for the draft this week. Not sure how you missed this.

According to his text to the news channel WAFB, on Tuesday he was in Atlanta boarding a flight to Chicago.

Link

 

[cstu]

If there are ANY witnesses whatsoever, it shouldn't take more than 5 - 10 minutes of talking with them to determine if Collins is a suspect or not. If they say "Well, it looked like a Grizzly Bear knocked on her door hten shot her", well then it's probably him. But anything else is unlikely.

Really? Are you familiar with the concept of murder for hire? I don't think police can conclusively rule out any suspect who had a plausible motive in 5-10 minutes, on the mere basis that he doesn't match the description of a mysterious stranger who pulled a trigger. Police are going to want to believe that stranger had his own motive to act alone. Rae Carruth didn't pull the trigger. Do you think police would have conclusively ruled him out as a suspect in 5-10 minutes if a witness to the crime said it was not Rae who pulled the trigger? These investigations are ongoing until there is a logical/plausible explanation for the crime. La'el (and all others who have motive) will likely remain a suspect until police catch the killer and are confident he acted alone.

It doesn't sound like murder for hire since the murderer got into a fight over borrowing her car.

 

[Anarchy99]

Law enforcement said Aaron Hernandez was not a suspect either and at some point they only wanted to question him. Just saying . . .

 

[BigJim®]

If there are ANY witnesses whatsoever, it shouldn't take more than 5 - 10 minutes of talking with them to determine if Collins is a suspect or not. If they say "Well, it looked like a Grizzly Bear knocked on her door hten shot her", well then it's probably him. But anything else is unlikely.

Really? Are you familiar with the concept of murder for hire? I don't think police can conclusively rule out any suspect who had a plausible motive in 5-10 minutes, on the mere basis that he doesn't match the description of a mysterious stranger who pulled a trigger. Police are going to want to believe that stranger had his own motive to act alone. Rae Carruth didn't pull the trigger. Do you think police would have conclusively ruled him out as a suspect in 5-10 minutes if a witness to the crime said it was not Rae who pulled the trigger? These investigations are ongoing until there is a logical/plausible explanation for the crime. La'el (and all others who have motive) will likely remain a suspect until police catch the killer and are confident he acted alone.

It doesn't sound like murder for hire since the murderer got into a fight over borrowing her car.

I agree, but we really don't know much about that (i.e. even who that person was). If it was a stranger, it may have been a 'can I use your phone' ploy to gain access to the victim. I just don't think anyone knows enough about the facts to conclude anything based on physical appearance of the shooter. *If* it was someone the victim knew, he is identified by police and they conclude the guy was a nutjob who shot his acquaintance under these facts, then of course that would exclude La'el as a suspect. I don't think whether he matches the description of the shooter alone would do that in 5-10 minutes... which is what I was responding to.

 

[spider321]

Where's Waldo? errr...La'el???

#WhiteBroncoWatch

 

[massraider]

Hey, if you are on an anonymous message board accusing someone of guilt because a person they know was just murdered, with zero facts:

You are a despicable human being.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Ever since the Richard Jewell case authorities pretty much shy away from using the word "Suspect."

"Person of Interest" is generally the new "suspect."

Of course being a person or interest or suspect doesn't mean involvement. But I've always found this language switcheroo interesting.

-QG

 

[spider321]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

 

[massraider]

Despicable

 

[jmo87usc]

Hey, if you are on an anonymous message board accusing someone of guilt because a person they know was just murdered, with zero facts:

You are a despicable human being.

Just curious who this was directed to? Or just speaking in general?

ETA- Nevermind. I know now

 

[davearm]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

You need fresher bait.

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

 

[jmo87usc]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

 

[Khy]

Honestly, whether the police see him as a suspect or not. Did they seriously put this into the press and then when Collins shows up for questioning they tell him "Lol, nah man. Sorry. We'll talk after the draft". Seriously? Were the police hired by the Saints to kill the girlfriend so that Collins would slip to late in the draft so they could draft him?

Because honestly, that would make more sense than ruining this kids chance at a once in a lifetime opportunity to be a 1st round NFL draft pick, something he has worked his ENTIRE life for just so that you can ask him a few questions.

In the event he doesn't end up being a real suspect in this case, he should really look into a defamation of character suit against the department in question. If they weren't ready to talk to him, they shouldn't have torpedoed his draft stock.

 

[Khy]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

Source?

Uhhh?

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

 

[Shawnky]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Where are you coming up with this? This isn't how real life works. Do you have a background in criminal justice of any sort?

 

[spider321]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

Source?

Uhhh?

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Didn't see this quote at first glance. If true, Collins should be standing in the police department begging to be interviewed immediately to try to clear his name before tonight.

 

[Khy]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Where are you coming up with this? This isn't how real life works. Do you have a background in criminal justice of any sort?

People assume that real life is similar to CSI. Where when a cop hear's the name of an ex-boyfriend they immediately drop everything and go arrest him and question him. And if a cop needs a warrant all it takes is a 30 second phone call to their best friend the District Attorney. And that semen is everywhere under a blacklight.

 

[cstu]

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

So with everyone else they can talk right away, but they need a week to prepare to meet with him?

 

[Khy]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

Source?

Uhhh?

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Didn't see this quote at first glance. If true, Collins should be standing in the police department begging to be interviewed immediately to try to clear his name before tonight.

Collins and his attorney have agreed to wait until after the draft

LSU OL La'el Collins, police to schedule interview after draft

Apr 30

4/30/2015 11:05:25 AM

LSU offensive lineman La'el Collins and Baton Rouge (Louisiana) Police have resolved to schedule an interview after the NFL draft, Cpl. Don Coppola told Albert Breer of NFL Network on Thursday. This via Gregg Rosenthal of NFL.com. Not date or time has been set.

Collins left Chicago and the NFL draft on Wednesday, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported, according to a source. Collins was at an NFL event Wednesday morning, but declined to answer questions from reporters.

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Baton Rouge (Louisiana) Police told NFL Media on Tuesday that they have been in contact with Collins' agent to schedule a meeting concerning what he might know to help them concerning the death of Brittany Mills. Collins is not considered a suspect in Mills' shooting death, which occurred on Friday.

"He's not a suspect, but we are seeking to question him," Corporal Don Coppola told Breer Tuesday. "He knew the victim. We're not sure of the exact nature of the relationship. But for the investigation and through the investigation, we're exhausting all avenues to locate this young lady's killer."

Collins is not the only person they have reached out to regarding this ongoing investigation, Coppola told NFL Media. Coppola emphasized that Collins is not being singled out and that this is standard procedure regarding an investigation of this nature.

Who actually broke this story? Cause it sounds to me like someone within the department leaked Collins name to the press and it caused all of this to happen. And that Collins was really just wanted for basic questioning and instead due to the leak his draft stock has been flushed down the toilet. It sounds like they never had planned to interview him until after the draft from the start.

 

[Khy]

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

So with everyone else they can talk right away, but they need a week to prepare to meet with him?

How exactly do we know they've talked to anyone? My summation of the terms used is that the police are still gathering physical evidence and chain of events prior to questioning anyone.

 

[jmo87usc]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

Source?

Uhhh?

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Didn't see this quote at first glance. If true, Collins should be standing in the police department begging to be interviewed immediately to try to clear his name before tonight.

This is exactly why I think he is more than just a person of interest. The police know what this is doing to his career. I think they would have handled it differently if he was merely a person of interest.

ETA- As someone stated above, Aaron Hernandez also started as a person of interest. Police use this term to keep actual suspects from fleeing sometimes.

 

[Yenrub]

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

So with everyone else they can talk right away, but they need a week to prepare to meet with him?

Do we know that the police have spoken to everyone else?

Do we know who everyone else is?

 

[Khy]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

Source?

Uhhh?

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Didn't see this quote at first glance. If true, Collins should be standing in the police department begging to be interviewed immediately to try to clear his name before tonight.

This is exactly why I think he is more than just a person of interest. The police know what this is doing to his career. I think they would have handled it differently if he was merely a person of interest.

ETA- As someone stated above, Aaron Hernandez also started as a person of interest. Police use this term to keep actual suspects from fleeing sometimes.

This is why as I said above, if he really is just being bought in because of his relationship to the woman and not because he's a real suspect. He should sue the department as it's despicable that this leaked from the department 2 days before he was expected to be a Top 20 draft pick.

 

[Mookie]

Why can't his attorney just say "Talk to my guy today, or you don't talk to him"? Delaying this conversation could cost him millions, assuming he's not really a suspect.

 

[Max Power]

It sounded like all the teams were notified of the incident before anything went public. So I'm not sure its fair to blame the police department for NFL investigators asking questions and the media running with it.

 

[Khy]

Why can't his attorney just say "Talk to my guy today, or you don't talk to him"? Delaying this conversation could cost him millions, assuming he's not really a suspect.

Because attorney's aren't the President? And they can't just pardon a guy if the police don't want to talk to him today?

 

[spider321]

Why can't his attorney just say "Talk to my guy today, or you don't talk to him"? Delaying this conversation could cost him millions, assuming he's not really a suspect.

Because he IS a suspect. It's the only reasonable explanation for Collins' and the police department's actions.

The police are trying to gather enough evidence to arrest him asap. They do not want to have to let him go once they get their hands on him.

 

[Khy]

Why can't his attorney just say "Talk to my guy today, or you don't talk to him"? Delaying this conversation could cost him millions, assuming he's not really a suspect.

Because he IS a suspect. It's the only reasonable explanation for Collins' and the police department's actions.

The police are trying to gather enough evidence to arrest him asap. They do not want to have to let him go once they get their hands on him.

Jesus Christ man, this is the issue I have with media today. Because it causes crap arguments like this with completely ignorant uninformed views on situations.

 

[On The Rocks]

Does his agent simply tell the team that picks him (lets say for the sake of argument) in the 4th round, "Hey, congratulations, you just got a top 20 pick in the fourth round, but make no mistake about it, you will need to pay him first round money on this first contract!"

Or does he have an option to withdraw from this draft and sit out the year, be a work out warrior for the next 12 months, and look forward to getting his coin a year later?

 

[Khy]

Does his agent simply tell the team that picks him (lets say for the sake of argument) in the 4th round, "Hey, congratulations, you just got a top 20 pick in the fourth round, but make no mistake about it, you will need to pay him first round money on this first contract!"

Or does he have an option to withdraw from this draft and sit out the year, be a work out warrior for the next 12 months, and look forward to getting his coin a year later?

I don't think his agent can do jack all if he doesn't go in the top 20 cause a team can just rebut with

"Umm, clearly not. Cause we were able to pick him in the 4th round. Plenty of guys with character concerns went before him."

As for his option to withdraw. I suppose he could, he could withdraw and re-enter for the supplemental draft instead. Which could net him as a 1st or 2nd round pick if it's held (most likely) after he's acquitted of charges. In my opinion this sounds like his best option.

 

[LittlePhatty]

Because he IS a suspect. It's the only reasonable explanation for Collins' and the police department's actions.

The police are trying to gather enough evidence to arrest him asap. They do not want to have to let him go once they get their hands on him.

It's far from the "only reasonable explanation". Truth is we just don't know what's going on, and if he's innocent it is very unfortunate timing. Just simply having that question mark hanging in the air will make a lot of teams look elsewhere.

 

[cstu]

This is why as I said above, if he really is just being bought in because of his relationship to the woman and not because he's a real suspect. He should sue the department as it's despicable that this leaked from the department 2 days before he was expected to be a Top 20 draft pick.

The police know full well what kind of risk they are taking by naming Collins publicly right before the draft. I don't believe they take a chance like this and act the way they have if he's not a major suspect.

 

[stumpie71]

If he was innocent, he would have been in the police station as fast as humanly possible, answering every question they have 10 times over if need be.

Collins has drug this out, and here we are, the day he was supposed to be drafted, and he is STILL avoiding the police?!?!

Ask yourself, would an innocent man who wanted to be drafted TODAY, take his sweet time trying to get clear of suspicion?

For an innocent man, he is acting VERY guilty.

I really hope I'm wrong, and he and his attorney are just idiots, but I doubt it.

Did you see the part of the story that the police are not ready for him yet? Not avoiding them. Just waiting until they are ready.

Source?

Uhhh?

Per Rapoport, Collins is in Baton Rouge ready to meet with police, however as the investigation is not complete, authorities are not ready to meet with him, according to sources who have spoken to the police.

Didn't see this quote at first glance. If true, Collins should be standing in the police department begging to be interviewed immediately to try to clear his name before tonight.

This is exactly why I think he is more than just a person of interest. The police know what this is doing to his career. I think they would have handled it differently if he was merely a person of interest.

ETA- As someone stated above, Aaron Hernandez also started as a person of interest. Police use this term to keep actual suspects from fleeing sometimes.

The police haven't labeled Collins a POI, suspect, or material witness, Nor have they stated that he is "wanted" for questioning.

Collins has been asked to meet with investigators, however this would be SOP regarding crimes of this nature being he had a personal relationship with the victim in the recent past, family members would also be asked to speak with the investigators.

Nothing appears suspicious, hiring a PI is a prudent move, not just for the police investigation, but to be able to show GM's that he was not involved with this crime. This would be a logical move to possibly prevent sliding out of the first round, or even the entire draft.

When my brother was robbed and killed coming out of a store I was asked to come in a speak with the detectives. I was never a POI or suspect, however before I had a chance to speak with the detectives the person responsible was identified and my interview was delayed several days.

 

[Chaos Commish]

so sorry Stumpie