Lamar - Let's talk about the QB (1 Viewer)

[Soulfly3]

No, not the runner.... The QB.

Am I off base...? without using stats, solely the eye -test, has Lamar progressed or regressed as a passer?

As much as I absolutely LOVE D Henry on BAL (as a Henry owner), I feel like his signing made an already mediocre throwing QB become progressively worse.

Zay, elite route runner, sensational hands. Andrews, still great hands, even if a bit washed... Likely, a behemoth who can do it all. And this guy can't seem to feed a soul.

So, thoughts? Legit think he took some steps forward over the years, but the trend is reversing and will only be amplified by BD Henry

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

When you can run like they did as a team last night, might as well run.

 

[Gatorade]

Andrews has always been his top receiving option. The drop-off in his production has seemed to effect the whole team. With Henry hitting his stride, hopefully it will open up the passing game. They still didn't have a true #1 WR. Zay is a really good #2. Unless Lively or Andrews get more consistent, Lamar will remain limited in the passing game. I don't think he has regressed, I just think his options limit his passing success.

 

[Soulfly3]

When you can run like they did as a team last night, might as well run.

I agree, but Henry has MAYBE one year left after this.

Then what? You cant replace Henry

 

[Uruk-Hai]

When you can run like they did as a team last night, might as well run.

This. Why throw when you're crushing it running?

Jackson's fine. He's never going to be the best passer in the game, but he doesn't have to be.

 

[Birdie048]

Strange that the announcers were taking about his “pocket presence and passing efficiency” like that was his best asset.
He made some inaccurate throws that could have been significant in his stats

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I think Baltimore is playing to its strength—and when you have Henry and when you have one of the best running qb’s in football—you commit to the run. I thought some of Lamar’s passes yesterday looked really crisp and looked like lasers. They didn’t need to throw the ball yesterday—as their commitment to the run absolutely destroyed a top 3 team. I’m a huge Josh Allen fan—but after last nights game—you came away worried about Lamar? Henry and Lamar easily looked like the two best players on the field to me. Lamar was a toe from beating KC in the first game by throwing to Likely—in a game where game script effectively took Henry out.

 

[Smack Tripper]

I thought he looked fine passing, maybe a little bit of a loopy/lengthy motion/release but that pass to Zay on the sideline on 3rd and long was an unreal dime. Zay wasn't clean with his feet but that was so pretty

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Strange that the announcers were taking about his “pocket presence and passing efficiency” like that was his best asset.
He made some inaccurate throws that could have been significant in his stats

I think that's always going to be with him.

 

[Yenrub]

With the exception of the swing passes to the RB’s, to me it seems like Lamar is big play hunting most of the time in the passing game. Now because he can move so well, he has that luxury. I get the impression that he wants to throw more than run.

Also, the two top pass catchers mentioned in the OP each had big drops yesterday.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

When you can run like they did as a team last night, might as well run.

I agree, but Henry has MAYBE one year left after this.

Then what? You cant replace Henry

Worry about that when you have to. They are in win now mode to some degree as one of the better teams in the league.

People been saying Henry only has 1 year left for years anyway. He might have 3. The guy is just different.

Frankly if your skill is running the ball, do that. Jackson isn't going to sit in the pocket and dissect a team very often, it isn't who he is and isn't who he ever will be. RUN.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

No, not the runner.... The QB.

Am I off base...? without using stats, solely the eye -test, has Lamar progressed or regressed as a passer?

As much as I absolutely LOVE D Henry on BAL (as a Henry owner), I feel like his signing made an already mediocre throwing QB become progressively worse.

Zay, elite route runner, sensational hands. Andrews, still great hands, even if a bit washed... Likely, a behemoth who can do it all. And this guy can't seem to feed a soul.

So, thoughts? Legit think he took some steps forward over the years, but the trend is reversing and will only be amplified by BD Henry

Did you see the dime Lamar dropped to Zay on the sidelines (that he dropped)? Did you see the perfect throw to Andrews (that he dropped)? Did you see the TD pass to Bateman (that he dropped)? Those are just off the top of my head and not including some of the great passes that were actually caught.

Lamar actually looks like a better passer to me than I ever remember. Their team is damn near impossible to stop on the ground at this point and the threat of Lamar's arm makes them even more dangerous.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

The OL was removing and relocating DL all night long
Henry ran 87 yds untouched to the end zone
You could see the Buffalo DBs had overlooked how fast he is once he breaks thru tackles
Henry isn't absorbing as much punishment when his first defender is an undersized DB that can't really hurt him if they are lucky to even get him on the ground
His thigh caused Taylor Rapp to see tweety birds flying around his head after he tried to tackle and get Henry on the ground, his helmet bounced right off Henry's massive thighs

-Baltimore BLEW OUT the Bills 35-10, perhaps the 1st or 2nd best team in the AFC, a team they are likely to see again at some point
I'm sorry, what were you saying about Jackson being a detriment at QB?
How about what he brings to the running game and assisting Henry in tearing the defense apart?
You think Zay Flowers and Mark Andrews are upset in the locker room after the game? They get paid the same come Monday Morning
Flowers is in Year No 2, he's still working towards a 2nd contract that he'll receive as long as he can stay healthy. His talent hasn't disappeared

 

[Chaka]

LOL yeah, he's only completing 67% of his passes at 8 yd of pop while leading the number 5 scoring offense and number one yardage offense in the league.

Terrible regression indeed.

 

[jm192]

AS @Chaka pointed out: He's completing 67% of his passes. He's averaging 8 yards a pass. He's got a 5 to 1 TD to INT ratio. For all of the talk of "We're going to open up the offense," the Ravens very clearly want to run it. It seems like the entire NFL wants to run it right now.

I actually thought the Justice Hill usage last night was a sign of Lamar getting better at the Chess game. The Bills have a linebacker deficiency. Hill was able to win all night. Lamar is playing to win the game. He did a masterful job of taking the easy stuff and winning with it. Props.

If I'm a Ravens fan, I'm happy with my QB situation. If they have doubts and want to trade him to the Titans, I'd be great with that too.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

If I'm a Ravens fan, I'm happy with my QB situation

I am and I am

 

[Zow]

LOL yeah, he's only completing 67% of his passes at 8 yd of pop while leading the number 5 scoring offense and number one yardage offense in the league.

Terrible regression indeed.

Yeah, bizarre timing of the OP's post. Baltimore just destroyed a probably top-5 team in the league.

Lamar has never looked like Marino and never will. In other words, his throwing form doesn't look "textbook." But, the numbers still suggest he's at least an average NFL passer (meaning he's like .0001% in the world at throwing a football - which is phenomenal) and when you combine that with the fact he's at least a top-3 QB ever in terms of mobility and running, he's an elite QB by any overall metric.

 

[Wigglytuff's Gruff]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

 

[jm192]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Yeah, the only thing offered in support of "Lamar has regressed" was Flowers and Andrews can't even get a football.

 

[menobrown]

He's playing really good football but also easy to see why several FA WR's turned down the chance to play with Lamar over the years and Ravens acknowledged previously that's one of the reasons they have to keep drafting WR's.

Had this debate last year before the season kicked off and some people said that was a Roman issue, not a Lamar issue. Doubt those people are still of that mindset today.

But honestly he's playing a lot like the QB he faced last night. In command of the whole offense, using his legs, spreading the ball around. It's real world really great stuff, just not for his pass catchers stats.

 

[Soulfly3]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

 

[Soulfly3]

Maybe I should add this as a caveat... I had (and still have) the ravens winning the SB.

This isnt lamar hate... It's a question of who he is as a throwing QB

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Dude—their first play was an 87 yard touchdown run. From that point on—they ran the ball down the throats of one of the best teams in football. Did you expect them to air it out when there was ZERO reason for them to do so?

 

[Soulfly3]

Lamar the past 3 seasons, first 4 games of the season (passing):

2024 858yds / 5TDs / 1INT / 66% completion percentage

2023 794yds / 4 TDs / 1 INT / 75% completion percentage

2022 893 yds / 11 TDs / 4 INT / 65% completion percentage

 

[Soulfly3]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Dude—their first play was an 87 yard touchdown run. From that point on—they ran the ball down the throats of one of the best teams in football. Did you expect them to air it out when there was ZERO reason for them to do so?

I've never and will never expect BAL or Lamar to "air it out"... He never has.
Now back to this not being a yesterday issue, but a Lamar as a QB issue. Is he getting better for you? Worse? What effect will Henry have had on lamar when he's gone?

 

[jvdesigns2002]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Dude—their first play was an 87 yard touchdown run. From that point on—they ran the ball down the throats of one of the best teams in football. Did you expect them to air it out when there was ZERO reason for them to do so?

I've never and will never expect BAL or Lamar to "air it out"... He never has.
Now back to this not being a yesterday issue, but a Lamar as a QB issue. Is he getting better for you? Worse? What effect will Henry have had on lamar when he's gone?

Last season Mahomes had close to a 1000 fewer passing yards versus what he usually throws in 16 games vs his career. He had the second fewest TD passes that he’s thrown for (he had one fewer in 2019–but he also played two fewer games in 2019)—and he had the most int’s than he’s ever thrown last year. This year—Mahomes has thrown 6 td’s and 5 int’s in 4 games—and it’s funny that somehow Lamar is getting attention for “regressing”.

 

[Soulfly3]

Comparing Mahomes to Lamar as a passing QB

Nah, you can't be real

Mahomes regressing is still a championship brev

 

[Soulfly3]

Let's look at it another way... Ravens are 2-2

In the first 2 games, when the run game basically stunk, and lamar had to throw a combined SEVENTY-FIVE times... they lost.
Last 2 weeks, run game balling, 33 passes, 2 wins.

So ya... Let's talk about Lamar the passing QB

 

[Yenrub]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

In regard to the bolded, this ain't college football style points don't matter (I understand style points matter less now that the college playoffs have expanded). What matters is the 1st part of your sentence, they destroyed the Bills.

 

[jvdesigns2002]

Comparing Mahomes to Lamar as a passing QB

Nah, you can't be real

Mahomes regressing is still a championship brev

Look deeper into my point. What did Mahomes have last year that he didn’t before? He had an aging Kelce and a really effective runner in Pacheco. He won a championship last season with regressing passing numbers because he didn’t need to put up crazy passing stats to be successful. It’s odd that you can’t see that dynamic with Lamar. His favorite receiving target in Andrews has clearly lost a step and he has the best running back that he’s ever played with. Champion or not—those are very similar situations.

 

[Soulfly3]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

In regard to the bolded, this ain't college football style points don't matter (I understand style points matter less now that the college playoffs have expanded). What matters is the 1st part of your sentence, they destroyed the Bills.

100% but it had absolutely nothing to do w Lamar's passing.

So back to that point... In the two games he's needed to be a throwing QB, they lost.

The 2 where Henry workhorse'd they dominated.

So, what's Lamar as a passing QB in 2024 and beyond?

 

[jm192]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Surely you're trolling.

The goal is to win football games. They went up against one of the best teams in the leagues with a game plan. The game plan worked so well they didn't have to throw it. And you're talking about Lamar's completions in a pejorative sense?

Game scripts matter.

 

[Soulfly3]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Surely you're trolling.

The goal is to win football games. They went up against one of the best teams in the leagues with a game plan. The game plan worked so well they didn't have to throw it. And you're talking about Lamar's completions in a pejorative sense?

Game scripts matter.

You (and others) keep bringing up YESTERDAY.

I'm talking about Lamar the passing QB. Who/what is he now, and what is he going forward?

 

[Gatorade]

On The Herd today they were talking about how Lamar was underrated. Not so sure about that , as evidence I present MVPs. He is just a winner and does what he needs to do to win each game. Not your typical QB for sure. Reminds me of Mike Vick, but a better passer and more under control.

 

[Soulfly3]

. Not your typical QB for sure. Reminds me of Mike Vick, but a better passer and more under control.

Ok, ok, interesting... I remember Vick as a better passer than Lamar.

Again. Not a very good one, but slightly better. maybe I'm misremembering tho.

Lamar definitely isn't underrated, he's a superstar. If he could pass better, he'd be Mahomes

 

[packdog]

Let's look at it another way... Ravens are 2-2

In the first 2 games, when the run game basically stunk, and lamar had to throw a combined SEVENTY-FIVE times... they lost.
Last 2 weeks, run game balling, 33 passes, 2 wins.

So ya... Let's talk about Lamar the passing QB

they found their identity. in those first two games the mediocrity of the oline was rearing it's head. most teams find it hard to mask that. the ravens found a way to do it quickly. looking at henry the last two games is easy but hill's usage last night was planned. the ravens know who they are. they will lead the league in rushing and that will lead to some shots in the passing game. the oline was a weakness but is now turning into a mauling strength. they know what to do with their personnel. lamar knows what to do. it's refreshing when teams adapt to their strength instead of constantly trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. same reason we will see dak lead the league in passing most likely. some teams know what works best for them and lean into it

 

[Gatorade]

. Not your typical QB for sure. Reminds me of Mike Vick, but a better passer and more under control.

Ok, ok, interesting... I remember Vick as a better passer than Lamar.

Again. Not a very good one, but slightly better. maybe I'm misremembering tho.

Lamar definitely isn't underrated, he's a superstar. If he could pass better, he'd be Mahomes

Vick had a stronger arm but less accurate
Career completion percentage 56.4
Career passer rating 80.4

 

[jm192]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Surely you're trolling.

The goal is to win football games. They went up against one of the best teams in the leagues with a game plan. The game plan worked so well they didn't have to throw it. And you're talking about Lamar's completions in a pejorative sense?

Game scripts matter.

You (and others) keep bringing up YESTERDAY.

I'm talking about Lamar the passing QB. Who/what is he now, and what is he going forward?

Ok, but...

You're the one that is trying to claim that Lamar is a subpar passer and has maybe even regressed. Surely you understand with such a bold claim, the burden of proof is on you. Your only arguments presented: Zay Flowers usage and "He only completed 13 passes."

I don't find those arguments compelling. "Zay Flowers isn't getting the football enough." They're running it a lot. "Lamar only completed 13 passes." They're running it alot. All of the volume complaints are because the run game is so good. IT was good against Dallas too.

You want to talk about the entire season: He's completing 67% of his passes. He has a 5 to 1 TD ratio. That says efficient, good quarterback to me.

You like volume though? 26/41 (64% completion)for 273 yards against KC. He threw it 40 times. He completed 26 passes. He had over 250 yards. Zay Flower got TEN targets.
Against the Raiders: 21 for 34 (62% completion) for 247 yards. And your precious Zay Flowers got 11 Targets.

So again, the two criteria you seem to think Matters:
1. Zay Flowers targets
2. Completions

Lamar checked those boxes in the 1st 2 weeks. He just REALLY fell off as a passer the last 2 weeks?

Also, I'd like to point out that Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow all have thrown the ball to Zay Flowers exactly zero times. Such regression.

 

[Soulfly3]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

Surely you're trolling.

The goal is to win football games. They went up against one of the best teams in the leagues with a game plan. The game plan worked so well they didn't have to throw it. And you're talking about Lamar's completions in a pejorative sense?

Game scripts matter.

You (and others) keep bringing up YESTERDAY.

I'm talking about Lamar the passing QB. Who/what is he now, and what is he going forward?

Ok, but...

You're the one that is trying to claim that Lamar is a subpar passer and has maybe even regressed. Surely you understand with such a bold claim, the burden of proof is on you. Your only arguments presented: Zay Flowers usage and "He only completed 13 passes."

I don't find those arguments compelling. "Zay Flowers isn't getting the football enough." They're running it a lot. "Lamar only completed 13 passes." They're running it alot. All of the volume complaints are because the run game is so good. IT was good against Dallas too.

You want to talk about the entire season: He's completing 67% of his passes. He has a 5 to 1 TD ratio. That says efficient, good quarterback to me.

You like volume though? 26/41 (64% completion)for 273 yards against KC. He threw it 40 times. He completed 26 passes. He had over 250 yards. Zay Flower got TEN targets.
Against the Raiders: 21 for 34 (62% completion) for 247 yards. And your precious Zay Flowers got 11 Targets.

So again, the two criteria you seem to think Matters:
1. Zay Flowers targets
2. Completions

Lamar checked those boxes in the 1st 2 weeks. He just REALLY fell off as a passer the last 2 weeks?

Also, I'd like to point out that Patrick Mahommes, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow all have thrown the ball to Zay Flowers exactly zero times. Such regression.

Ok, but I've also posted Lamar's numbers the past 3 seasons after 4 games.


Even just looking at his passing numbers as a career, he really hasnt improved, has he?

 

[jm192]

Let's look at it another way... Ravens are 2-2

In the first 2 games, when the run game basically stunk, and lamar had to throw a combined SEVENTY-FIVE times... they lost.
Last 2 weeks, run game balling, 33 passes, 2 wins.

So ya... Let's talk about Lamar the passing QB

As it turns out, teams that are losing pass more to catch up. TEams that are winning run more to run the clock out.

 

[Acrobat7]

Many fishes in this pond. Not all of them being sharks.

 

[GregR]

Soulfly just wants them to sign Josh Gordon.

 

[Yenrub]

I suspect the OP is more of an 'I want Zay Flowers to do more' cry into the abyss than it is any genuine feeling or thought that LJ isn't good enough.

Seem to remember Soulfly being high on Zay Flowers.

Of course Im perplexed by Zay's usage

And yes, they just destroyed arguably thr best team in football... Did thy do it thru the air? Not even a little. 13 completions. cmon now...

The topic is serious. He's never been a good passing QB... He got better and imo, has started slipping a bit... My major point is, will 1-2 seasons of Henry really drop his throwing abilities since he won't be using it nearly as much...

In regard to the bolded, this ain't college football style points don't matter (I understand style points matter less now that the college playoffs have expanded). What matters is the 1st part of your sentence, they destroyed the Bills.

100% but it had absolutely nothing to do w Lamar's passing.

So back to that point... In the two games he's needed to be a throwing QB, they lost.

The 2 where Henry workhorse'd they dominated.

So, what's Lamar as a passing QB in 2024 and beyond?

They were up by 10 points on the Raiders with 10 minutes remaining.
How are you putting that loss on his lack of passing ability?

 

[Judge Smails]

Still one of the most dangerous QBs out there. He made a few mistakes but thought he was in total command last night.

 

[Chaka]

Baller.

 

[LawFitz]

Thread turned out to be an open bottle of whine.

 

[fatness]

As much as I absolutely LOVE D Henry on BAL (as a Henry owner), I feel like his signing made an already mediocre throwing QB become progressively worse.

This thread will run for years I'm sure, but so far this take isn't a good one.

 

[Soulfly3]

As much as I absolutely LOVE D Henry on BAL (as a Henry owner), I feel like his signing made an already mediocre throwing QB become progressively worse.

This thread will run for years I'm sure, but so far this take isn't a good one.

Not going to lie, I feel like Lamar read this thread and took personal action against me.

He has definitely picked up his game in (most) of the weeks since this thread, and I couldn't be happier about it as an owner of many BAL pieces (not Lamar), which has me sitting comfortable in 1st in my big money league.

Hey, if the guy needed a calling out for our benefit, I'm glad to eat the L.