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Lamont Jordan a Steal? (1 Viewer)

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Found this interesting article on Lamont Jordan. I got him in the 9th round as my 3rd RB/Flex spot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/footb ... age=32qoak

When Dominic Rhodes returns from his suspension, will LaMont Jordan still be a featured back?

Some might consider this question the fantasy football equivalent of "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" It isn't. The Raiders of yesteryear are gone. Gone are Aaron Brooks, Randy Moss and Art Shell. Here are Lane Kiffin, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell (eventually), Dominic Rhodes and Michael Bush. And -- not to be underestimated -- Robert Gallery has switched positions. These Raiders are different, even if they still project to be among the weaker teams in the NFL.

LaMont Jordan has been the ultimate fantasy tease. For years he displayed flashes of brilliance as he languished, buried behind Curtis Martin in New York. Finally in 2005, he escaped the future first-ballot Hall of Famer's shadow and landed a five-year contract with the Raiders, which all but assured him of the starting gig he so desperately craved. In his first season with Oakland, he produced a 1,588-yard, 11-touchdown season. Finally his time had come, leading many to eagerly select Jordan as their first pick in 2006 fantasy drafts. Jordan's 2006 campaign can be described only as abominable. Nine games, 508 total yards and only two touchdowns are not what owners expected when they selected Jordan. Thus began the fantasy football community's distaste of Jordan.

While Jordan and the rest of the Raiders were busy disappointing last year, Indianapolis Colt Dominic Rhodes recaptured some old glory by posting a solid 892 total yards and five scores despite being limited by being in a time-share with rookie Joseph Addai. Rhodes had performed well in the past, specifically in 2001 when he filled in for an injured Edgerrin James and scored 186 fantasy points. Perhaps it was because of these two years that the Raiders offered him a free-agent contract. Instantly, fantasy owners began warming to the idea of the surprising Rhodes replacing the disappointing Jordan. That excitement cooled when it was announced that Rhodes would be suspended for the first four games of this season due to a violation of the league's substance abuse policy.

Re-enter Jordan.

While training camp repetitions are being pretty evenly split, by virtue of having no competition for the first four weeks, Jordan will open the season as the Raiders' clear No. 1 running back. So, what are the prospects for Jordan actually surprising the fantasy community and posting good numbers? In my opinion, they are excellent. In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season. In Week 3, Jordan will feast on the similarly-challenged Cleveland Browns, who finished 29th out of the 32 teams in that same stat. Those are two games in which Jordan could easily post a combined 275 total yards and three scores. Couple in two decent performances against the middle-of-the-pack run defenders known as the Denver Broncos and better-than-average rush stoppers, the Miami Dolphins, and through four games, Jordan could easily have 425 yards and four scores. That's a pace for 1,700 yards and 16 scores.

While the Raiders' scheduled bye in Week 5 certainly will give Rhodes a shot to earn playing time as he'll have two full weeks to get back in the mix, Rhodes' first opponent will be the run-dominating defense of the San Diego Chargers. It'll be extremely hard for Rhodes to push Jordan out of the mix against them, and the next three games for Jordan -- Kansas City, Tennessee and Houston -- are a fantasy owner's dream. By this point, Jordan should be looking at 800 total yards and seven or more touchdowns. Those numbers -- through the first eight games -- means this is Jordan's job as long as he can stay healthy.

Are there reasons to be concerned about LaMont? Sure, his injuries and a new coach should raise questions. A torn MCL definitely isn't what you look for in a starting running back. However, that injury did not require surgery to correct, so his bounce back time is less than others who have gone under the knife to fix similar ailments. What you should be looking for to evaluate the impact the injury might have this year are signs of his explosiveness. In an Aug. 18 preseason loss to the 49ers, Jordan was fantastic: He rushed for 67 yards and a score.

New head coach Kiffin is a question mark himself. However, he already has made at least one decision that should help Jordan, and that's the move of Gallery from tackle to guard. Gallery was perhaps one the biggest offensive lineman busts in the history of the NFL draft and Kiffin was smart enough to move him to a position of less importance. That alone should result in more first downs, which translates into more opportunities for Jordan. Furthermore, Kiffin displayed the creativity you want to see from an offensive mastermind during his days at USC. He found ways to get the ball to his playmakers there, and Jordan is one of them here.

So, no, this definitely isn't a tree falling in a forest. This is opportunity knocking. Jordan's average draft position places him in the seventh or eighth round, depending on the size of your league. His potential is phenomenal, even if he did disappoint many last season. You are buying this year's version of Jordan and the Raiders, not the Art Shell-coached 2006 version. Jordan is a steal, don't hesitate to take him. And for Rhodes, well, let him be someone else's disappointment.

 
Found this interesting article on Lamont Jordan. I got him in the 9th round as my 3rd RB/Flex spot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/footb ... age=32qoak

When Dominic Rhodes returns from his suspension, will LaMont Jordan still be a featured back?

Some might consider this question the fantasy football equivalent of "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" It isn't. The Raiders of yesteryear are gone. Gone are Aaron Brooks, Randy Moss and Art Shell. Here are Lane Kiffin, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell (eventually), Dominic Rhodes and Michael Bush. And -- not to be underestimated -- Robert Gallery has switched positions. These Raiders are different, even if they still project to be among the weaker teams in the NFL.

LaMont Jordan has been the ultimate fantasy tease. For years he displayed flashes of brilliance as he languished, buried behind Curtis Martin in New York. Finally in 2005, he escaped the future first-ballot Hall of Famer's shadow and landed a five-year contract with the Raiders, which all but assured him of the starting gig he so desperately craved. In his first season with Oakland, he produced a 1,588-yard, 11-touchdown season. Finally his time had come, leading many to eagerly select Jordan as their first pick in 2006 fantasy drafts. Jordan's 2006 campaign can be described only as abominable. Nine games, 508 total yards and only two touchdowns are not what owners expected when they selected Jordan. Thus began the fantasy football community's distaste of Jordan.

While Jordan and the rest of the Raiders were busy disappointing last year, Indianapolis Colt Dominic Rhodes recaptured some old glory by posting a solid 892 total yards and five scores despite being limited by being in a time-share with rookie Joseph Addai. Rhodes had performed well in the past, specifically in 2001 when he filled in for an injured Edgerrin James and scored 186 fantasy points. Perhaps it was because of these two years that the Raiders offered him a free-agent contract. Instantly, fantasy owners began warming to the idea of the surprising Rhodes replacing the disappointing Jordan. That excitement cooled when it was announced that Rhodes would be suspended for the first four games of this season due to a violation of the league's substance abuse policy.

Re-enter Jordan.

While training camp repetitions are being pretty evenly split, by virtue of having no competition for the first four weeks, Jordan will open the season as the Raiders' clear No. 1 running back. So, what are the prospects for Jordan actually surprising the fantasy community and posting good numbers? In my opinion, they are excellent. In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season. In Week 3, Jordan will feast on the similarly-challenged Cleveland Browns, who finished 29th out of the 32 teams in that same stat. Those are two games in which Jordan could easily post a combined 275 total yards and three scores. Couple in two decent performances against the middle-of-the-pack run defenders known as the Denver Broncos and better-than-average rush stoppers, the Miami Dolphins, and through four games, Jordan could easily have 425 yards and four scores. That's a pace for 1,700 yards and 16 scores.

While the Raiders' scheduled bye in Week 5 certainly will give Rhodes a shot to earn playing time as he'll have two full weeks to get back in the mix, Rhodes' first opponent will be the run-dominating defense of the San Diego Chargers. It'll be extremely hard for Rhodes to push Jordan out of the mix against them, and the next three games for Jordan -- Kansas City, Tennessee and Houston -- are a fantasy owner's dream. By this point, Jordan should be looking at 800 total yards and seven or more touchdowns. Those numbers -- through the first eight games -- means this is Jordan's job as long as he can stay healthy.

Are there reasons to be concerned about LaMont? Sure, his injuries and a new coach should raise questions. A torn MCL definitely isn't what you look for in a starting running back. However, that injury did not require surgery to correct, so his bounce back time is less than others who have gone under the knife to fix similar ailments. What you should be looking for to evaluate the impact the injury might have this year are signs of his explosiveness. In an Aug. 18 preseason loss to the 49ers, Jordan was fantastic: He rushed for 67 yards and a score.

New head coach Kiffin is a question mark himself. However, he already has made at least one decision that should help Jordan, and that's the move of Gallery from tackle to guard. Gallery was perhaps one the biggest offensive lineman busts in the history of the NFL draft and Kiffin was smart enough to move him to a position of less importance. That alone should result in more first downs, which translates into more opportunities for Jordan. Furthermore, Kiffin displayed the creativity you want to see from an offensive mastermind during his days at USC. He found ways to get the ball to his playmakers there, and Jordan is one of them here.

So, no, this definitely isn't a tree falling in a forest. This is opportunity knocking. Jordan's average draft position places him in the seventh or eighth round, depending on the size of your league. His potential is phenomenal, even if he did disappoint many last season. You are buying this year's version of Jordan and the Raiders, not the Art Shell-coached 2006 version. Jordan is a steal, don't hesitate to take him. And for Rhodes, well, let him be someone else's disappointment.
man, i just hate him so much from last year that it is hard to buy any of the hype. I drafted Rhodes in the 10th for this specific reason.
 
Found this interesting article on Lamont Jordan. I got him in the 9th round as my 3rd RB/Flex spot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/footb ... age=32qoak

When Dominic Rhodes returns from his suspension, will LaMont Jordan still be a featured back?

Some might consider this question the fantasy football equivalent of "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" It isn't. The Raiders of yesteryear are gone. Gone are Aaron Brooks, Randy Moss and Art Shell. Here are Lane Kiffin, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell (eventually), Dominic Rhodes and Michael Bush. And -- not to be underestimated -- Robert Gallery has switched positions. These Raiders are different, even if they still project to be among the weaker teams in the NFL.

LaMont Jordan has been the ultimate fantasy tease. For years he displayed flashes of brilliance as he languished, buried behind Curtis Martin in New York. Finally in 2005, he escaped the future first-ballot Hall of Famer's shadow and landed a five-year contract with the Raiders, which all but assured him of the starting gig he so desperately craved. In his first season with Oakland, he produced a 1,588-yard, 11-touchdown season. Finally his time had come, leading many to eagerly select Jordan as their first pick in 2006 fantasy drafts. Jordan's 2006 campaign can be described only as abominable. Nine games, 508 total yards and only two touchdowns are not what owners expected when they selected Jordan. Thus began the fantasy football community's distaste of Jordan.

While Jordan and the rest of the Raiders were busy disappointing last year, Indianapolis Colt Dominic Rhodes recaptured some old glory by posting a solid 892 total yards and five scores despite being limited by being in a time-share with rookie Joseph Addai. Rhodes had performed well in the past, specifically in 2001 when he filled in for an injured Edgerrin James and scored 186 fantasy points. Perhaps it was because of these two years that the Raiders offered him a free-agent contract. Instantly, fantasy owners began warming to the idea of the surprising Rhodes replacing the disappointing Jordan. That excitement cooled when it was announced that Rhodes would be suspended for the first four games of this season due to a violation of the league's substance abuse policy.

Re-enter Jordan.

While training camp repetitions are being pretty evenly split, by virtue of having no competition for the first four weeks, Jordan will open the season as the Raiders' clear No. 1 running back. So, what are the prospects for Jordan actually surprising the fantasy community and posting good numbers? In my opinion, they are excellent. In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season. In Week 3, Jordan will feast on the similarly-challenged Cleveland Browns, who finished 29th out of the 32 teams in that same stat. Those are two games in which Jordan could easily post a combined 275 total yards and three scores. Couple in two decent performances against the middle-of-the-pack run defenders known as the Denver Broncos and better-than-average rush stoppers, the Miami Dolphins, and through four games, Jordan could easily have 425 yards and four scores. That's a pace for 1,700 yards and 16 scores.

While the Raiders' scheduled bye in Week 5 certainly will give Rhodes a shot to earn playing time as he'll have two full weeks to get back in the mix, Rhodes' first opponent will be the run-dominating defense of the San Diego Chargers. It'll be extremely hard for Rhodes to push Jordan out of the mix against them, and the next three games for Jordan -- Kansas City, Tennessee and Houston -- are a fantasy owner's dream. By this point, Jordan should be looking at 800 total yards and seven or more touchdowns. Those numbers -- through the first eight games -- means this is Jordan's job as long as he can stay healthy.

Are there reasons to be concerned about LaMont? Sure, his injuries and a new coach should raise questions. A torn MCL definitely isn't what you look for in a starting running back. However, that injury did not require surgery to correct, so his bounce back time is less than others who have gone under the knife to fix similar ailments. What you should be looking for to evaluate the impact the injury might have this year are signs of his explosiveness. In an Aug. 18 preseason loss to the 49ers, Jordan was fantastic: He rushed for 67 yards and a score.

New head coach Kiffin is a question mark himself. However, he already has made at least one decision that should help Jordan, and that's the move of Gallery from tackle to guard. Gallery was perhaps one the biggest offensive lineman busts in the history of the NFL draft and Kiffin was smart enough to move him to a position of less importance. That alone should result in more first downs, which translates into more opportunities for Jordan. Furthermore, Kiffin displayed the creativity you want to see from an offensive mastermind during his days at USC. He found ways to get the ball to his playmakers there, and Jordan is one of them here.

So, no, this definitely isn't a tree falling in a forest. This is opportunity knocking. Jordan's average draft position places him in the seventh or eighth round, depending on the size of your league. His potential is phenomenal, even if he did disappoint many last season. You are buying this year's version of Jordan and the Raiders, not the Art Shell-coached 2006 version. Jordan is a steal, don't hesitate to take him. And for Rhodes, well, let him be someone else's disappointment.
Regardless of how Lamont Jordan performs, that article is laughable. It says nothing to suggest that Jordan will be in a better situation this year. Oh, they moved Gallery who couldn't play tackle to guard. What makes anyone think he's a better guard, and who is going to take his job at tackle, and where were they last year. Kiffen, who's never been a head coach is going to suddenly inject life into a failing franchise.I like how he uses the first four games against easy opponents to project Jordan's stats over a full season. Then he has the brilliance to suggest Rhodes won't be able to display his talent because he'll come back against San Diego, then dismisses him in the next 3 games where Jordan will be playing against a fantasy owner's dream line-up of supposedly weak Ds. Sounds like this guy has shut off the part of his mind that will allow an objective review of Jordan's prospects.

 
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Agree here. Having watched Oakland in the preseason, their line does not look good at all. Jordan will be too inconsistent to have much value.

 
Agree here. Having watched Oakland in the preseason, their line does not look good at all.
The rushing stats don't back you up, the Raiders have run well both games.The line has looked much better than last year. It's only the preseason, so I am not too excited about it, but the line has actually looked dramatically improved. The first team line has allowed one sack in two games, and all their backs have run the ball well.No sacks, sustained drives by the offense, averaging more than 4 yards a carry........what didn't you like about the line thus far?
 
Actually, I think Oakland's line looks much improved, though that may not be saying much. Jordan put up 8/67/1 against the Niners' first-team defense (although again, that may not be saying much).

My take on the situation is that Jordan has looked like a much better back than Rhodes in the pre-season, and with Rhodes out for the first four games, Jordan is likely to have the job pretty well nailed down by the time Rhodes returns. See the Inside the Oakland Raiders' blog for confirmation:

– Assuming LaMont Jordan wakes up without back trouble and can stay healthy, his performance against San Francisco virtually erases any doubt he's the lead back and will get most of the work in the regular season until Dominic Rhodes comes off a four-game suspension.
And here's one for the super-deep sleeper category: the coaches have been singing the praises of Adimchinobe Echemandu all training camp and pre-season, and there's some speculation that Fargas got as many touches as he did against SF to see if he could keep his roster spot. Fargas wound up with 9 carries for 30 yards and 1 reception for 4 yards, while Echemandu had a nifty run and catch for 23 yards, and 4 rushes for 18 yards. The buzz is that Fargas may be the odd man out in the backfield, which could leave Echemandu as the #2 RB for at least four games. He's still not worth drafting in most leagues, but he's worth keeping an eye on.
 
Agree here. Having watched Oakland in the preseason, their line does not look good at all.
The rushing stats don't back you up, the Raiders have run well both games.The line has looked much better than last year. It's only the preseason, so I am not too excited about it, but the line has actually looked dramatically improved. The first team line has allowed one sack in two games, and all their backs have run the ball well.No sacks, sustained drives by the offense, averaging more than 4 yards a carry........what didn't you like about the line thus far?
agreed . . . Oakland looks much improved so far - Walter never had "all day" to throw like he did against SF . . .
 
Jordan was on my team in his breakout 2005 season. I watched his games a lot. He looked slow and very unimpressive in all of his runs. I would not expect great things from Jordan, especially in non PPR leagues. Even in games where he scored a lot of points it was mostly through his receptions.

He presents value when drafted in later rounds, but again, I wouldnt expect great things.

 
Jordan was on my team in his breakout 2005 season. I watched his games a lot. He looked slow and very unimpressive in all of his runs. I would not expect great things from Jordan, especially in non PPR leagues. Even in games where he scored a lot of points it was mostly through his receptions.He presents value when drafted in later rounds, but again, I wouldnt expect great things.
SELL NOW, his value will never be higher. :thumbup:
 
Found this interesting article on Lamont Jordan. I got him in the 9th round as my 3rd RB/Flex spot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/footb ... age=32qoak

When Dominic Rhodes returns from his suspension, will LaMont Jordan still be a featured back?

Some might consider this question the fantasy football equivalent of "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" It isn't. The Raiders of yesteryear are gone. Gone are Aaron Brooks, Randy Moss and Art Shell. Here are Lane Kiffin, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell (eventually), Dominic Rhodes and Michael Bush. And -- not to be underestimated -- Robert Gallery has switched positions. These Raiders are different, even if they still project to be among the weaker teams in the NFL.

LaMont Jordan has been the ultimate fantasy tease. For years he displayed flashes of brilliance as he languished, buried behind Curtis Martin in New York. Finally in 2005, he escaped the future first-ballot Hall of Famer's shadow and landed a five-year contract with the Raiders, which all but assured him of the starting gig he so desperately craved. In his first season with Oakland, he produced a 1,588-yard, 11-touchdown season. Finally his time had come, leading many to eagerly select Jordan as their first pick in 2006 fantasy drafts. Jordan's 2006 campaign can be described only as abominable. Nine games, 508 total yards and only two touchdowns are not what owners expected when they selected Jordan. Thus began the fantasy football community's distaste of Jordan.

While Jordan and the rest of the Raiders were busy disappointing last year, Indianapolis Colt Dominic Rhodes recaptured some old glory by posting a solid 892 total yards and five scores despite being limited by being in a time-share with rookie Joseph Addai. Rhodes had performed well in the past, specifically in 2001 when he filled in for an injured Edgerrin James and scored 186 fantasy points. Perhaps it was because of these two years that the Raiders offered him a free-agent contract. Instantly, fantasy owners began warming to the idea of the surprising Rhodes replacing the disappointing Jordan. That excitement cooled when it was announced that Rhodes would be suspended for the first four games of this season due to a violation of the league's substance abuse policy.

Re-enter Jordan.

While training camp repetitions are being pretty evenly split, by virtue of having no competition for the first four weeks, Jordan will open the season as the Raiders' clear No. 1 running back. So, what are the prospects for Jordan actually surprising the fantasy community and posting good numbers? In my opinion, they are excellent. In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season. In Week 3, Jordan will feast on the similarly-challenged Cleveland Browns, who finished 29th out of the 32 teams in that same stat. Those are two games in which Jordan could easily post a combined 275 total yards and three scores. Couple in two decent performances against the middle-of-the-pack run defenders known as the Denver Broncos and better-than-average rush stoppers, the Miami Dolphins, and through four games, Jordan could easily have 425 yards and four scores. That's a pace for 1,700 yards and 16 scores.

While the Raiders' scheduled bye in Week 5 certainly will give Rhodes a shot to earn playing time as he'll have two full weeks to get back in the mix, Rhodes' first opponent will be the run-dominating defense of the San Diego Chargers. It'll be extremely hard for Rhodes to push Jordan out of the mix against them, and the next three games for Jordan -- Kansas City, Tennessee and Houston -- are a fantasy owner's dream. By this point, Jordan should be looking at 800 total yards and seven or more touchdowns. Those numbers -- through the first eight games -- means this is Jordan's job as long as he can stay healthy.

Are there reasons to be concerned about LaMont? Sure, his injuries and a new coach should raise questions. A torn MCL definitely isn't what you look for in a starting running back. However, that injury did not require surgery to correct, so his bounce back time is less than others who have gone under the knife to fix similar ailments. What you should be looking for to evaluate the impact the injury might have this year are signs of his explosiveness. In an Aug. 18 preseason loss to the 49ers, Jordan was fantastic: He rushed for 67 yards and a score.

New head coach Kiffin is a question mark himself. However, he already has made at least one decision that should help Jordan, and that's the move of Gallery from tackle to guard. Gallery was perhaps one the biggest offensive lineman busts in the history of the NFL draft and Kiffin was smart enough to move him to a position of less importance. That alone should result in more first downs, which translates into more opportunities for Jordan. Furthermore, Kiffin displayed the creativity you want to see from an offensive mastermind during his days at USC. He found ways to get the ball to his playmakers there, and Jordan is one of them here.

So, no, this definitely isn't a tree falling in a forest. This is opportunity knocking. Jordan's average draft position places him in the seventh or eighth round, depending on the size of your league. His potential is phenomenal, even if he did disappoint many last season. You are buying this year's version of Jordan and the Raiders, not the Art Shell-coached 2006 version. Jordan is a steal, don't hesitate to take him. And for Rhodes, well, let him be someone else's disappointment.
Regardless of how Lamont Jordan performs, that article is laughable. It says nothing to suggest that Jordan will be in a better situation this year. Oh, they moved Gallery who couldn't play tackle to guard. What makes anyone think he's a better guard, and who is going to take his job at tackle, and where were they last year. Kiffen, who's never been a head coach is going to suddenly inject life into a failing franchise.I like how he uses the first four games against easy opponents to project Jordan's stats over a full season. Then he has the brilliance to suggest Rhodes won't be able to display his talent because he'll come back against San Diego, then dismisses him in the next 3 games where Jordan will be playing against a fantasy owner's dream line-up of supposedly weak Ds. Sounds like this guy has shut off the part of his mind that will allow an objective review of Jordan's prospects.
I love how you discount Kiffen while seemingly discounting the entire notion that LaMont may actually improve. Of course, you don't seem to issue with the negative effects of having an Offensive Coordinator that had been out of the league for over 20 years take over the offense, as happened in Oakland last year. I'd take someone currently involved in the game regardless of head coaching experience over some has been guy that hadn't been involved in football (let alone coach it) for over 20 years. I'm not necessarily saying Jordan will be as productive as he was in 2005, but to totally write him off based on last year when the OC was so out of it isn't wise either. The west coach offense, zone blocking, etc weren't even in existance the last time that OC was involved in football.
 
There is a definate "team" sense around the Raiders. I am convinced they can go 8-8. A much better coached team and look to be more focused..

 
Found this interesting article on Lamont Jordan. I got him in the 9th round as my 3rd RB/Flex spot.

http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/footb ... age=32qoak

When Dominic Rhodes returns from his suspension, will LaMont Jordan still be a featured back?

Some might consider this question the fantasy football equivalent of "if a tree falls in the forest and nobody is around to hear it, does it make a sound?" It isn't. The Raiders of yesteryear are gone. Gone are Aaron Brooks, Randy Moss and Art Shell. Here are Lane Kiffin, Daunte Culpepper, JaMarcus Russell (eventually), Dominic Rhodes and Michael Bush. And -- not to be underestimated -- Robert Gallery has switched positions. These Raiders are different, even if they still project to be among the weaker teams in the NFL.

LaMont Jordan has been the ultimate fantasy tease. For years he displayed flashes of brilliance as he languished, buried behind Curtis Martin in New York. Finally in 2005, he escaped the future first-ballot Hall of Famer's shadow and landed a five-year contract with the Raiders, which all but assured him of the starting gig he so desperately craved. In his first season with Oakland, he produced a 1,588-yard, 11-touchdown season. Finally his time had come, leading many to eagerly select Jordan as their first pick in 2006 fantasy drafts. Jordan's 2006 campaign can be described only as abominable. Nine games, 508 total yards and only two touchdowns are not what owners expected when they selected Jordan. Thus began the fantasy football community's distaste of Jordan.

While Jordan and the rest of the Raiders were busy disappointing last year, Indianapolis Colt Dominic Rhodes recaptured some old glory by posting a solid 892 total yards and five scores despite being limited by being in a time-share with rookie Joseph Addai. Rhodes had performed well in the past, specifically in 2001 when he filled in for an injured Edgerrin James and scored 186 fantasy points. Perhaps it was because of these two years that the Raiders offered him a free-agent contract. Instantly, fantasy owners began warming to the idea of the surprising Rhodes replacing the disappointing Jordan. That excitement cooled when it was announced that Rhodes would be suspended for the first four games of this season due to a violation of the league's substance abuse policy.

Re-enter Jordan.

While training camp repetitions are being pretty evenly split, by virtue of having no competition for the first four weeks, Jordan will open the season as the Raiders' clear No. 1 running back. So, what are the prospects for Jordan actually surprising the fantasy community and posting good numbers? In my opinion, they are excellent. In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season. In Week 3, Jordan will feast on the similarly-challenged Cleveland Browns, who finished 29th out of the 32 teams in that same stat. Those are two games in which Jordan could easily post a combined 275 total yards and three scores. Couple in two decent performances against the middle-of-the-pack run defenders known as the Denver Broncos and better-than-average rush stoppers, the Miami Dolphins, and through four games, Jordan could easily have 425 yards and four scores. That's a pace for 1,700 yards and 16 scores.

While the Raiders' scheduled bye in Week 5 certainly will give Rhodes a shot to earn playing time as he'll have two full weeks to get back in the mix, Rhodes' first opponent will be the run-dominating defense of the San Diego Chargers. It'll be extremely hard for Rhodes to push Jordan out of the mix against them, and the next three games for Jordan -- Kansas City, Tennessee and Houston -- are a fantasy owner's dream. By this point, Jordan should be looking at 800 total yards and seven or more touchdowns. Those numbers -- through the first eight games -- means this is Jordan's job as long as he can stay healthy.

Are there reasons to be concerned about LaMont? Sure, his injuries and a new coach should raise questions. A torn MCL definitely isn't what you look for in a starting running back. However, that injury did not require surgery to correct, so his bounce back time is less than others who have gone under the knife to fix similar ailments. What you should be looking for to evaluate the impact the injury might have this year are signs of his explosiveness. In an Aug. 18 preseason loss to the 49ers, Jordan was fantastic: He rushed for 67 yards and a score.

New head coach Kiffin is a question mark himself. However, he already has made at least one decision that should help Jordan, and that's the move of Gallery from tackle to guard. Gallery was perhaps one the biggest offensive lineman busts in the history of the NFL draft and Kiffin was smart enough to move him to a position of less importance. That alone should result in more first downs, which translates into more opportunities for Jordan. Furthermore, Kiffin displayed the creativity you want to see from an offensive mastermind during his days at USC. He found ways to get the ball to his playmakers there, and Jordan is one of them here.

So, no, this definitely isn't a tree falling in a forest. This is opportunity knocking. Jordan's average draft position places him in the seventh or eighth round, depending on the size of your league. His potential is phenomenal, even if he did disappoint many last season. You are buying this year's version of Jordan and the Raiders, not the Art Shell-coached 2006 version. Jordan is a steal, don't hesitate to take him. And for Rhodes, well, let him be someone else's disappointment.
Regardless of how Lamont Jordan performs, that article is laughable. It says nothing to suggest that Jordan will be in a better situation this year. Oh, they moved Gallery who couldn't play tackle to guard. What makes anyone think he's a better guard, and who is going to take his job at tackle, and where were they last year. Kiffen, who's never been a head coach is going to suddenly inject life into a failing franchise.I like how he uses the first four games against easy opponents to project Jordan's stats over a full season. Then he has the brilliance to suggest Rhodes won't be able to display his talent because he'll come back against San Diego, then dismisses him in the next 3 games where Jordan will be playing against a fantasy owner's dream line-up of supposedly weak Ds. Sounds like this guy has shut off the part of his mind that will allow an objective review of Jordan's prospects.
I love how you discount Kiffen while seemingly discounting the entire notion that LaMont may actually improve. Of course, you don't seem to issue with the negative effects of having an Offensive Coordinator that had been out of the league for over 20 years take over the offense, as happened in Oakland last year. I'd take someone currently involved in the game regardless of head coaching experience over some has been guy that hadn't been involved in football (let alone coach it) for over 20 years. I'm not necessarily saying Jordan will be as productive as he was in 2005, but to totally write him off based on last year when the OC was so out of it isn't wise either. The west coach offense, zone blocking, etc weren't even in existance the last time that OC was involved in football.
Read a little closer. I didn't say Jordan wouldn't improve. I said this writer's article had no basis to support that he would improve. He may improve, God, how can he not? But, the rationale and faulty logic this author used was pathetic. That was my point. You wrote more in your paragraph to suggest why Jordan would improve than the author did in an entire article.I would wager that Kiffen will be a better coach than Shell, and that the offensive line must improve, and that Jordan will probably do better than last year. That doesn't make him a steal, and it certainly doesn't make my amateur opinion worthy of a story, not unlike the author of the referenced article.

 
Dont get your hopes up too far. Controlled optimism is best at this time. The Raiders oline looked good last preseason as well, getting good pass protection and creating inside lanes for lamont. But going 4-0 doesn't say much followed by 2-14. In all reality the oline does look better after surrendering a million sacks last season. Gallery was pushed back a couple times, that almost lead to negative yards. But he held and extended just long enough for jordan to run by.

Oline did not open many holes in the middle. Most of the runs were to the edges where lamont likes to run. Jordan does look the michelen man in silver and black.

Against a tougher dline the raiders oline will/could reach a breaking point. As for preseason game 2 they played respectively. Also not to many blitz's were being sent by the niners DC(if i remember correctly). The extra man in the box was dropping back into coverage daring the raiders to run the ball.

Lamonts value will peak in the preseason if he keeps this up. Jordan owners should be looking to trade him for anything.

The Raiders offense is looking to use alot of different players to keep opposing defenses guessing.

Walter threw the ball with more touch than cpep and has pocket presence. Cpep was shooting lasers. Accurate but easy passes.

Rhodes, Lamont, & Fargas will all carry the ball during games. I don't believe in Crockett or Echumendu*whatever*

Porter was the main guy in week one, Curry in week 2, Travis Taylor also was keyed into by Cpep and Walter, and Miller caught a couple passes. And Mike Williams will make the team and contribute. And I believe mike williams as a wr in the goalline package is brilliant and it will stick. Its an experiment that will prove valuable. Calling this one.

fyi, everything mentioned above was 1st team action.

 
San Jose Merc on Adimchinobe Echemandu

If the coaching staff has already determined Player A is on the roster, then Player A might take a seat so Player B and Player C can compete for a spot. What you see before a season starts is not always what you get in Week 1 of the regular season.

Still, based on his performance to date, it's hard to imagine Echemandu not being on the team when the Raiders open Sept. 9 against the Detroit Lions.
 
if you draft him late (his ADP is round 7-8) you will likely already have your starters. will you risk starting him over your RB#2 or 3 on a given week (DET, DEN, CLE, MIA) before the bye and rhodes. he may be a play week 1 or 3, but will you seriously start him over your other RBs??!?!?

 
if you draft him late (his ADP is round 7-8) you will likely already have your starters. will you risk starting him over your RB#2 or 3 on a given week (DET, DEN, CLE, MIA) before the bye and rhodes. he may be a play week 1 or 3, but will you seriously start him over your other RBs??!?!?
Your also getting a minimum 4 game RB starter in the 7th or 8th round. Hard to pass up that value when it comes with a solid chance he keeps the starting RB spot.
 
Actually, I think Oakland's line looks much improved, though that may not be saying much. Jordan put up 8/67/1 against the Niners' first-team defense (although again, that may not be saying much).
Just to put this in perspective, the Niners entire starting DL sat against the Raiders. Of course Bryant Young and Co. are all meh, but temper your enthusisasm a bit about Jordan's performance.Figured the poster would omit that part, but thats not saying much.
 
Not that this matters, but as a Lions fan it kinda annoyed me.

In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season.
The Lions finished 15th in YPC allowed and that was without Shaun Rogers for much of the season. They've finished in the top half of the league in terms of YPC allowed 4 of the past 5 years.The Lions aren't habitually unable to stop the run. They're habitually unable to keep the other team from piling up rushing attempts during late-game clock-killing situations. Don't think that's really going to apply for Oakland this year.
 
You're not drafting Jordan in round 1 like last year. In round 7 or 8, to get a featured RB that can catch a lot of passes, with a relatively light schedule, is value. If he sucks, no big deal. If he's good, you're in great shape. He's been good in the past, and to think the Raiders can be worse than last year is just silly. So, he's definitely worth the pick he's going for. His value is NOT at a high point right now. He's likely your 3rd or 4th RB, but clearly could finish in the top 25 to 30. That is value, and value wins FF leagues.

 
if you draft him late (his ADP is round 7-8) you will likely already have your starters. will you risk starting him over your RB#2 or 3 on a given week (DET, DEN, CLE, MIA) before the bye and rhodes. he may be a play week 1 or 3, but will you seriously start him over your other RBs??!?!?
Your also getting a minimum 4 game RB starter in the 7th or 8th round. Hard to pass up that value when it comes with a solid chance he keeps the starting RB spot.
:D best post in this thread..he represents great trade value, at the very least, once he pounds on Cleveland..I was never impressed with Rhodes, he seems like Errict Wrett, v2.0..good hands, but runs a tad slow, and not an impressive runner..I wouldn't count on him pushing Jordan, any time soon.Jordan can be of the best backs in the nfl thru the first 4 weeks of the season..
 
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You're not drafting Jordan in round 1 like last year. In round 7 or 8, to get a featured RB that can catch a lot of passes, with a relatively light schedule, is value. If he sucks, no big deal. If he's good, you're in great shape. He's been good in the past, and to think the Raiders can be worse than last year is just silly. So, he's definitely worth the pick he's going for. His value is NOT at a high point right now. He's likely your 3rd or 4th RB, but clearly could finish in the top 25 to 30. That is value, and value wins FF leagues.
:wub: Just don't see the downside in a guy who is a starter at the most scarce position in FF that has decent upside. Oh yeah, he can be had in the 7th or 8th round and has a solid opening schedule on the surface anyway. This is Jamal Lewis with receiving ability who can be had a round or 2 later and has prolly more upside.
 
For perspective, I got him at the end of the 9th last night. 10tm redraft no PPR. I think he screams value as a #4 RB that you can dump after 3-4 weeks.

 
I'll happily grab this guy as either my fourth RB or third (assuming I grabbed good WR value and got a top QB) in the 7th round or later.

 
These two articles appear to be mostly speculation on the part of the authors, but they both indicate that Jordan is the clear starter, and that Rhodes may not even be the top backup:

Raiders Blog:

At running back, LaMont Jordan is the starter, but there's a pitched battle underway for the change-up role. Adimchinobe Echemandu may beat Justin Fargis and Dominic Rhodes for the right to spell Jordan.
SF Chronicle:
It's not like the running-back deck is too stacked to include Bush. Dominic Rhodes is suspended by the NFL for the first four games, ReShard Lee was lost to a knee injury and Justin Fargas has all but disappeared in camp.

That leaves LaMont Jordan and Adimchinobe Echemandu as the top two backs heading into the season opener. Jordan has recovered from a training-camp back injury. Echemandu leads the NFL with 158 rushing yards in three exhibition games.
I think Jordan is solidifying his value as the starter in Oakland, and Echemandu is increasingly looking like a worthwhile last-pick flier.
 
Well, with Turner hurt and the fact that NO Oakland Raiders were drafted at all in my league (8x16 players), looks like I know who my first FA target will be.

-QG

 
I think Jordan is solidifying his value as the starter in Oakland, and Echemandu is increasingly looking like a worthwhile last-pick flier.
I don't think that myself. I think he look okay the other night, but he hasn't practiced much this preseason, and still has to overcome the memory of a really awful 2006. If he hadn't taken a pay cut, he would have been cut. One long reception and a few carries isn't going to change my mind so quick.I am not exactly objective on this subject, as Jordan really turned me off last year, but I definitely haven't seen any evidence that suggests that Rhodes is falling down the depth chart. Echemandu has looked great, and I hope he makes the team (and even stashed him on a dynasty roster), but I think he is still running 4th team.

I would love it if Jordan proves me wrong, but I have my doubts about him in the ZBS, and his work ethic.

 
Rhodes is missing 4 games for steroid use, correct? He was busted quite awhile ago. My guess is a good portion of last year's success was roid induced, since he was in the final year of contract. He got his $$$, he got busted, he's off the roids. He's going to be playing catch up the rest of the year. IMO, none of that bodes well for Rhodes coming close to his per game production of last year.

I think Jordan will be given every chance to take the position, and I really like the way Echemandu finishes his runs (never seems to give up). I think the only way Rhodes takes a good amount of carries is if Jordon gets hurt.

 
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For perspective, I got him at the end of the 9th last night. 10tm redraft no PPR. I think he screams value as a #4 RB that you can dump after 3-4 weeks.
Nice, he's written off almost completely. And yet people still like guys like Jamal Lewis and Edgerrin James.
What a terrible comparison...2006 Fantasy Points

Jamal Lewis 179

Edgerrin James 174

LaMont Jordan 63
Lamont only played in 10 games so it's not as skewed on a game by game basis, he'll be much better off this year. 6th round pick is a steal
 
Got Jordan @ 9.4 12-teamer

Ladell Betts and Kevin Jones were drafted in the same round.

I think LaMont has much more potential value then the other 2.

Anything after the 7th or 8th is a great value.

 
Not that this matters, but as a Lions fan it kinda annoyed me.

In Week 1, Jordan draws the habitually-unable-to-stop-the-run Detroit Lions who finished 21st in the league in terms of rushing yards allowed last season.
The Lions finished 15th in YPC allowed and that was without Shaun Rogers for much of the season. They've finished in the top half of the league in terms of YPC allowed 4 of the past 5 years.The Lions aren't habitually unable to stop the run. They're habitually unable to keep the other team from piling up rushing attempts during late-game clock-killing situations. Don't think that's really going to apply for Oakland this year.
thank you, im glad i continued reading the thread before posting this. redding and a healthy rogers will make them tougher to run on. and like said above, the raiders shouldnt be up big trying to run out the clock.
 
Update based on last night's game:

Jordan is the clear starter; he only had 2 carries, but they were for 8 and 10 yards. I think he's likely to start all season.

The backup situation is muddy. Rhodes had another weak outing, with 10 carries for 29 yards against the Seahawks backups. Fargas played the third quarter, getting 3 carries for 4 yards, and Echemandu played the fourth, getting 4 carries for 15 yards.

I think they'll start the season with M.Bush on PUP, and obviously Rhodes is on suspension. So Fargas and Echemandu both make the opening day roster. Echemandu has outplayed Fargas in every game so far, which would seem to point to him being the primary backup to Jordan, but it's strange that they put him in for the fourth quarter of the fourth pre-season game, if they think he's going to be the primary backup. (But Culpepper was in, too, so they may be looking at the fourth game differently than most teams).

My guess is Echemandu is primary backup for games 1-4. I think if he performs well in that role there's a real chance that he keeps it when Rhodes comes back; if not, it's probably Rhodes as backup. I think either way, one of Echemandu or Fargas will be cut to make room for Rhodes after his suspension is up.

 

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