LAST CALL FOR RAVENS/PATS SIG BET! (1 Viewer)

[jwvdcw]

really? So what was this all about then:

week 2: Ravens 30, Steelers 13

The Ravens, when healthy, are a pretty good team. The Steelers just havn't had any injuries while the Ravens have.

First off, Week 2 was a looooooong time (and Tommy Maddox) ago.

Second,

The Ravens have had injuries but the Steelers haven't?

Maddox (this was a good one though)

Kendall Simmons - out for season

Duce Staley - out last 3 weeks

Kendrell Bell - has played 2-3 games all year

Chad Scott - been out since week 5

Casey Hampton - out for season

Plaxico Burress - hammy, may miss 2-4 weeks

It's not like these are special teamers, man... you're talking about a starting OG, starting RB, Pro-Bowl LB and NT, #1 CB, etc....

I have had it up to the eyeballs with people pointing to other teams' injuries as the reason that they're not where the Steelers are. The Steelers have had as many if not MORE serious injuries than a lot of these teams; the difference is that they had the depth and the resolve to overcome those injuries. Stop looking for excuses.

Read a few posts up when I said regarding the post of mine you quoted:"You're 100% right..I take that back. "

Yes, you're right, Pitt has had injuries too and I shouldn't have said they havn't. But the Ravens have been killed by them: When you lose your 3 best offensive players(and not only that, but Heap, JLewis, and Ogden were our 3 best offensive players BY FAR), then its tough. That would be the equivalent of Philly losing McNabb, TO, and whomever their best o-lineman is. How do you think that would affect them?

 

[Luther]

As the guy who shares his Pats' season tickets with Porkins, I can vouch for him:He's NUTS.He's wrong on both sides of the score, but correct on the outcome. IMHO.The Pats won't score 30 on this defense. Something in the 17-24 range is more likely. I bet they have more field goals than TDs (23 pts?)as the Ravens D is alot like ours in that they 'bend, don't break'.However, I don't think the Ravens will score more than 10 against our D at home. So I think we agree on the final margin anyway.Ifthe Ravens RBs were all healthy, it'd be different...a little closer. But with them all banged up....Pats win by 10+.

 

[jwvdcw]

So who wants to be in on a sig bet?

 

[Evilgrin72]

Read a few posts up when I said regarding the post of mine you quoted:"You're 100% right..I take that back. "Yes, you're right, Pitt has had injuries too and I shouldn't have said they havn't. But the Ravens have been killed by them: When you lose your 3 best offensive players(and not only that, but Heap, JLewis, and Ogden were our 3 best offensive players BY FAR), then its tough. That would be the equivalent of Philly losing McNabb, TO, and whomever their best o-lineman is. How do you think that would affect them?

I saw that after I posted. That last part was directed at you so much as the whiny tool (j/k) Pats fans that won't stop pointing to the Corey Dillon injury as the reason they lost that game. Even freaking msn.com still lists the Pats #1 in their power poll for the same reason. It's a joke.

 

[DerangedGridironGeek]

Read a few posts up when I said regarding the post of mine you quoted:

"You're 100% right..I take that back. "

Yes, you're right, Pitt has had injuries too and I shouldn't have said they havn't. But the Ravens have been killed by them: When you lose your 3 best offensive players(and not only that, but Heap, JLewis, and Ogden were our 3 best offensive players BY FAR), then its tough. That would be the equivalent of Philly losing McNabb, TO, and whomever their best o-lineman is. How do you think that would affect them?

I saw that after I posted. That last part was directed at you so much as the whiny tool (j/k) Pats fans that won't stop pointing to the Corey Dillon injury as the reason they lost that game. Even freaking msn.com still lists the Pats #1 in their power poll for the same reason. It's a joke.

Listen...no excuses...Pitt beat the Pats and were the better team...I'm happy for the Pitt fans. They are some of the most loyal fans out there (almost to loyal that they cant see the whole picture).....I'm glad they went out and got Duce and Berger....IMO.....Ty Law's injury had more of an impact than Dillon....we've won many games without Dillon, but the loss of Law during the game made a huge impact...shutdown corners are difficult to replace...especially when your defensive game plan includes him.....losing Dillon also had an impact since all indications at the start of the game was the he was playing....so he too was built into the gameplan, but something at warmups changed that

No excuses...you still have to win with what you've got and the Steelers won that day...and hopefully we will meet again...

 

[Evilgrin72]

Read a few posts up when I said regarding the post of mine you quoted:

"You're 100% right..I take that back. "

Yes, you're right, Pitt has had injuries too and I shouldn't have said they havn't. But  the Ravens have been killed by them: When you lose your 3 best offensive players(and not only that, but Heap, JLewis, and Ogden were our 3 best offensive players BY FAR), then its tough. That would be the equivalent of Philly losing McNabb, TO, and whomever their best o-lineman is. How do you think that would affect them?

I saw that after I posted. That last part was directed at you so much as the whiny tool (j/k) Pats fans that won't stop pointing to the Corey Dillon injury as the reason they lost that game. Even freaking msn.com still lists the Pats #1 in their power poll for the same reason. It's a joke.

Listen...no excuses...Pitt beat the Pats and were the better team...I'm happy for the Pitt fans. They are some of the most loyal fans out there (almost to loyal that they cant see the whole picture).....I'm glad they went out and got Duce and Berger....IMO.....Ty Law's injury had more of an impact than Dillon....we've won many games without Dillon, but the loss of Law during the game made a huge impact...shutdown corners are difficult to replace...especially when your defensive game plan includes him.....losing Dillon also had an impact since all indications at the start of the game was the he was playing....so he too was built into the gameplan, but something at warmups changed that

No excuses...you still have to win with what you've got and the Steelers won that day...and hopefully we will meet again...

Oh, you want another beatin' ?!?!?!

 

[DerangedGridironGeek]

Read a few posts up when I said regarding the post of mine you quoted:

"You're 100% right..I take that back. "

Yes, you're right, Pitt has had injuries too and I shouldn't have said they havn't. But  the Ravens have been killed by them: When you lose your 3 best offensive players(and not only that, but Heap, JLewis, and Ogden were our 3 best offensive players BY FAR), then its tough. That would be the equivalent of Philly losing McNabb, TO, and whomever their best o-lineman is. How do you think that would affect them?

I saw that after I posted. That last part was directed at you so much as the whiny tool (j/k) Pats fans that won't stop pointing to the Corey Dillon injury as the reason they lost that game. Even freaking msn.com still lists the Pats #1 in their power poll for the same reason. It's a joke.

Listen...no excuses...Pitt beat the Pats and were the better team...I'm happy for the Pitt fans. They are some of the most loyal fans out there (almost to loyal that they cant see the whole picture).....I'm glad they went out and got Duce and Berger....IMO.....Ty Law's injury had more of an impact than Dillon....we've won many games without Dillon, but the loss of Law during the game made a huge impact...shutdown corners are difficult to replace...especially when your defensive game plan includes him.....losing Dillon also had an impact since all indications at the start of the game was the he was playing....so he too was built into the gameplan, but something at warmups changed that

No excuses...you still have to win with what you've got and the Steelers won that day...and hopefully we will meet again...

Oh, you want another beatin' ?!?!?!

Seriously....I really hope it happens...it would be an awesome game...this Pitt/NE thing is turning into quite a rivalry.

 

[dansav]

I'm in. The Pats don't lose at the Razor. For those of you that don't now, I am referring to Gilette Stadium. Ravens D is nasty, we have the upperhand everywhere else. By the way, if Law and Poole were healthy, I would say they have a better secondary.24-10 pats

Yeah, the Titans didn't use to lose at home either until the Ravens fixed that.By the way, if Law and Poole were healthy, the Pats' secondary still wouldn't be as good as Baltimore's.Law would be the Ravens' #2 CB. Poole would be about #5 behind McAlister, Baxter, Deion and Chad Williams.Homer glasses aside, does anyone else think Rodney Harrison's play has declined significantly this season? Sure, he's still good for one or two big hits a game, but he struggles to cover in the best of situations and far too often has his nose in the opponent's backfield looking to lay out an RB while a WR streaks downfield behind him.

Grampa Deion???? come on dude.. Harrison looks good to me. He has to fill in for Law and Poole which is tough

 

[The Ref]

Seriously....I really hope it happens...it would be an awesome game...this Pitt/NE thing is turning into quite a rivalry.

Forget about any rivalry for a moment - it's a game that I personaly think would make the best AFC Championship game.All that aside, I still don't see a Patriots loss this weekend. I think the Ravens are a good team, but the track record is just to long to actualy predict a Patriots loss at home.

 

[Stillers Jr.]

As a Steeler fan, I don't know who will win, but either way it will help my boys! :stillers: :stillers: The best case scenario is this....Ray-Ray Lewis rushes in on Brady...Corey Dillon tries to pick him up and gets plowed over, blowing out a knee....then the impact when Ray-ray crashes into Brady is so great, they both suffer severe concussions and break both their collar bones.If that happens, I will ever ask for another thing in my entire life... In all seriousness, I find it difficult to believe that the Ravens "smoke and mirrors" offense will be able to keep pace. You can only throw x amount of flea-flickers or quadruple reverses before people start catching on that "Gimmicks" makes up half your playbook. the Pats don't fall for that crapola.Pats - 23 Ravens - 6

 

[Men-in-Cleats]

As a Steeler fan, I don't know who will win, but either way it will help my boys! :stillers: :stillers: The best case scenario is this....Ray-Ray Lewis rushes in on Brady...Corey Dillon tries to pick him up and gets plowed over, blowing out a knee....then the impact when Ray-ray crashes into Brady is so great, they both suffer severe concussions and break both their collar bones.If that happens, I will ever ask for another thing in my entire life... In all seriousness, I find it difficult to believe that the Ravens "smoke and mirrors" offense will be able to keep pace. You can only throw x amount of flea-flickers or quadruple reverses before people start catching on that "Gimmicks" makes up half your playbook. the Pats don't fall for that crapola.Pats - 23 Ravens - 6

C'Mon, it is pretty classless to wish injuries upon another team's players. Are you sure you're not a Philly homer instead of Pittsburg homer? That said, without Lewis, Baltimore is punchless and will not be able to beat the Pats. Better offenses have failed against that banged up secondary. Your Ravens did win against the Steelers in Week 2 but that is a different Steelers team then the one that has been dominant since then. You might want to be a bit more realistic in your expectations since your only other victory against a team with a winning record was your win against a Jets team without its starting QB. If you want to play the Ravens beat Pittsburgh who beat NE game then you have to consider the NE beat KC who beat Baltimore game.I'm not a Pats fan but I can see that they are a far better team than the one dimensional Ravens who've padded their record with the Clevelands, Dallas, and Cinci's of the league. Don't get me wrong, they are a solid team thanks to their defense and running game, but take off the blinders and consider that their offense is highly suspect, and extremely suspect if Lewis is out.

 

[nerangers]

Read a few posts up when I said regarding the post of mine you quoted:"You're 100% right..I take that back. "Yes, you're right, Pitt has had injuries too and I shouldn't have said they havn't. But the Ravens have been killed by them: When you lose your 3 best offensive players(and not only that, but Heap, JLewis, and Ogden were our 3 best offensive players BY FAR), then its tough. That would be the equivalent of Philly losing McNabb, TO, and whomever their best o-lineman is. How do you think that would affect them?

I saw that after I posted. That last part was directed at you so much as the whiny tool (j/k) Pats fans that won't stop pointing to the Corey Dillon injury as the reason they lost that game. Even freaking msn.com still lists the Pats #1 in their power poll for the same reason. It's a joke.

Dillon would not have been that big of a difference maker in the Steeler game. Ty Law was though. As soon as he got hurt, the Steelers scored. The secondary is extremely weak at the moment. I live in PA now, and it did not surprise me that the Pats lost to the Steelers. The Steelers are playing great ball. A team worthy of losing to. The crowd was definitely into it as well!Now the Ravens are going to be without Jamal Lewis as far as I know. So if the Ravens lose, don't point at him as the reason since Dillon is no excuse in the lost to the Steelers.This is going to be a close one...I see it being on a Vinitairi Field Goal at the end of the game (and we know how those always turn out).As for comparing the WRs of the Pats to other teams and think you can just do one to one coverage...be my guest. Brady loves to pass the ball around to everyone. You cover all his wide receivers, he will just pass it to the water boy! lol My point is, just because there are no big name WRs, does not mean they don't get the job done.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

First off, Week 2 was a looooooong time (and Tommy Maddox) ago.

Second,

The Ravens have had injuries but the Steelers haven't?

Maddox (this was a good one though)

Kendall Simmons - out for season

Duce Staley - out last 3 weeks

Kendrell Bell - has played 2-3 games all year

Chad Scott - been out since week 5

Casey Hampton - out for season

Plaxico Burress - hammy, may miss 2-4 weeks

It's not like these are special teamers, man... you're talking about a starting OG, starting RB, Pro-Bowl LB and NT, #1 CB, etc....

I have had it up to the eyeballs with people pointing to other teams' injuries as the reason that they're not where the Steelers are.  The Steelers have had as many if not MORE serious injuries than a lot of these teams; the difference is that they had the depth and the resolve to overcome those injuries.  Stop looking for excuses.

Thats the only thing other teams can say. Coming into this year the Steelers weren't supposed to do anything and the Patsies were supposed to steam roll everybody on their way to a second consecutive Super Bowl title.

The media and fans of other teams have NO idea how to deal with this. This is their attempt at trying to save face.

Well, at least Eagles fans have stopped with the excuses, I think.

Yes, some Pats fans may go overboard (what teams fans don't?) but you keep saying stuff that is true only in your mind. Your continued Pat fan stick poking is getting a little out of hand.Who said the Steelers weren't supposed to do anything? I for one picked them to win their division (I can link the thread if u like). Maybe most people based their predictions on what the Steelers had done in 02 & 03 which as we all know was squat.

And exactly who said coming into this year that the Pats were supposed to steam roll everyone??? Can you provide even a single quote from anyone saying that?

I don't believe many if any people were saying "NE would steamroll" but NE has won 2 of the last 3 Super Bowls and they did set a new NFL record with 21 consecutive wins. It is IMO appropriate to consider them one of the best teams in the league. NE has clearly earned most of the accolades they have received and it remains to be seen whether the Steelers are worthy of all the praise and hype they are receiving.

Pittsburgh beat NE & Phi fair and square but excuse me for not quaking in my boots wondering how NE will ever beat the great Steelers in a rematch

Pittsburgh has a real good team but it sounds like at least one of their fans has a bad case of Patriots envy

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

As a Steelers homer, let me say this.  The Ravens (as much as it kills me to say this) are playing good ball right now.  The defense is (as always) solid and the success of the team hinges on the arm of Kyle Boller and wether they can get the running game squared away with the injuries.Now, do I think the Ravens can beat the Pats? Definitely. Do I think they will? I'm not sure about that.All I know is that for some unknown reason, the Pats fans STILL think their team is head and shoulders above the rest in the league (which may have been true a year ago) but that is most definitely NOT the case this year.  You are still being portrayed as the "media darlings" and I don't think anyone would want it any other way.Pats fans are starting to make a case for the most OBLIVIOUS fans in the league (you're just behind Stains fans for now).   Your team got outplayed, outcoached, and BEATEN.  The Pats are very beatable, as the Steelers showed, and I would not be surprised at all if the Ravens knocked them off.Take your loss like men and stop making excuses.  It just makes you look dumb.

Yes pitty, the Steelers kick the Pats asses a few weeks ago. There is no denying it. Can we move on now? We are talking about the Ravens (with no Jamal Lewis this week). KC (ranked 1 in total offense) exposed our week secondary last night and still couldn't win. I doubt the Ravens (ranked 29th in total offense) will have the same results.I see the Pats winning this one quite easily. Pats score at least 30 and the Ravens don't break 20.

The Pats will score 30 on the Ravens? I would love to hear your explanation on that one...The Ravens have limited teams WITH BETTER OFFENSES THAN NE to the following pointsitt 13KC 27Philly 15Meanwhile, the Pats have scored against teams WITH WORSE DEFENSES the following points:KC 27Indy 27Arizona 23NY 13Pitt 20

I think ur reaching quite a bit (it is at least debatable whether Phi & Pit even have better offenses than NE) but I don't want to even go there.Anyway, Bal is a dangerous team and they certainly have a very good D. However, IMO they do not have the offense to overcome NE's defense. Both teams have good defenses but NE has a HUGE edge on offense. It will be difficult for Bal and their young qb to attack NE where they are weakest (secondary). NE will focus on stopping the Bal ground game and IMO will likely be successful at it. If Bal can't run I don't see Boller and his rec core having all that much succes. On the other side of the ball NE will either run or pass or do both depending on what is working and what isn't. They may struggle at times but IMO Brady and NE's offense are much better equipped to deal with a tuff D than Boller and the Bal offense. I mean no disrespect but throw in the home field crowd and the noise and IMO NE wins going away.Put me down on the Sig

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down on the Sig

So are you the only one taking my bet?ANYONE ELSE?Last call! We need to get our sigs in by tonight.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Put me down on the Sig

So are you the only one taking my bet?ANYONE ELSE?Last call! We need to get our sigs in by tonight.

jwvdcw, I'm in. The Ravens are a strong defense, but their offense struggles to be average, particularly without Jamal.Patriots 24Ravens 13Might I suggest:"I was delusional to think for one minute that the anemic Ravens offense could do anything but struggle against the mighty Patriots. While Ray-Ray, Ed Reed and McAllister are defensive superstars, our offense is poop. All hail the reigning superbowl champion Patriots, clearly a better team than Boler's Bunglers."

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down on the Sig

So are you the only one taking my bet?ANYONE ELSE?Last call! We need to get our sigs in by tonight.

jwvdcw, I'm in. The Ravens are a strong defense, but their offense struggles to be average, particularly without Jamal.Patriots 24Ravens 13Might I suggest:"I was delusional to think for one minute that the anemic Ravens offense could do anything but struggle against the mighty Patriots. While Ray-Ray, Ed Reed and McAllister are defensive superstars, our offense is poop. All hail the reigning superbowl champion Patriots, clearly a better team than Boler's Bunglers."

In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudentIn for Ravens: jwvdcwDid I miss anyone? Anyone else?

 

[JAA]

weakest sig bet evah!!

 

[Anarchy99]

Put me down for the Pats.

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

How about a Limerick type sig for Ravens fans?

I thought my Ravens had the greatest D but now its plain to see the true greatness belongs, only to NE.

There aint no denien my Ravens were tryin but them Pats were flyin and that’s why I'm still cryin.

My Ravens are OK but the Patriots rule, I’ve come to accept it momma didn’t raise no fool!

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down for the Pats.

you're inIn for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw

 

[kedrok]

Put me in for the Ravens. This is the time of year when every bounce seems to go the Ravens' way. Call me the oddball, but I don't think the loss of Jamal is much of a factor in this one. Anyone who has watched the Ravens prior games this season should be able to tell that Jamal, for one reason or another, has not looked like 1/2 the back he was last year.Teams that Ravens need to fear are built like KC and Pitt with huge, physical offensive lines as these teams are able to overpower that Ravens' defensive line and get to their linebackers. To my knowlegde, the Pats do not have a very good o line.Now, Ravens' fans should calm down regarding that early season win over Pittsburgh as it's clear they have been the best team in football for 10 weeks or so (wow, it actually hurt to type that!).Fearless prediction... Ravens 24 Pats 13Game changes on a play by the Ravens defense... most would pick Reed, but I think tomorrow's hero will be Mr. Handsome, Terrell Suggs.

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Put me down for the Pats.

you're inIn for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw

Ummm...so when exactly do we see the proposed sig lines?I did my fair share....

 

[paydrt]

One thing this Raven team has shown is, it's incapable of winning on the road against a team with a winning record. The Ravens have exactly ONE road win against a team with a winning record since Nov. 2000. That was agianst the Jets 2 weeks ago. New England isn't a good place to start a streak.

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down for the Pats.

you're inIn for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw

Ummm...so when exactly do we see the proposed sig lines?I did my fair share....

I'll get it done before the start of the game tomorrow. Are you Pats fans happy with the suggested one?...Looks like a pretty small sig bet so far:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok

 

[The_Man]

One thing this Raven team has shown is, it's incapable of winning on the road against a team with a winning record. The Ravens have exactly ONE road win against a team with a winning record since Nov. 2000. That was agianst the Jets 2 weeks ago. New England isn't a good place to start a streak.

You mean Nov. 2001.They beat a couple of teams on the road in the playoffs in Jan. 2001 that had winning records.

 

[JAA]

Put me down for the Pats.

you're inIn for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw

Ummm...so when exactly do we see the proposed sig lines?I did my fair share....

I'll get it done before the start of the game tomorrow. Are you Pats fans happy with the suggested one?...Looks like a pretty small sig bet so far:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok

ill be in for the ravens as long as the sig can go below my current sig

 

[porkins]

I'm in for the Pats, and I'll be there to see it live, exactly 6 seconds before the rest of you.(makes it very difficult to listen to the game on the headphones while sitting there in the stands)

 

[paydrt]

You mean Nov. 2001.They beat a couple of teams on the road in the playoffs in Jan. 2001 that had winning records.

Thanks I wasn't sure if it was 2000 or 2001.

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down for the Pats.

you're inIn for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw

Ummm...so when exactly do we see the proposed sig lines?I did my fair share....

I'll get it done before the start of the game tomorrow. Are you Pats fans happy with the suggested one?...Looks like a pretty small sig bet so far:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok

ill be in for the ravens as long as the sig can go below my current sig

Wow...surprising that you'd join us. Good to have you.In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok, JAA

 

[jwvdcw]

I'm in for the Pats, and I'll be there to see it live, exactly 6 seconds before the rest of you.(makes it very difficult to listen to the game on the headphones while sitting there in the stands)

Updated:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99, porkinsIn for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok, JAA

 

[Evilgrin72]

7 people ???? C'mon NE and Baltimore fans....sack up here....

 

[bostonfred2]

7 people ???? C'mon NE and Baltimore fans....sack up here....

I think the prospect of seeing jwvdcw's sig change isn't that exciting, combined with some of the sig choices out there, and the fact there's no real animosity between these two teams outside of today's game, makes it less appealing. Having JAA on the other side putting it under his Eagles sig doesn't add much either. The fact is, the Ravens aren't that popular on this board, and this sig bet is showing it. I can see why a Steelers fan that hates both teams would try to egg both sides on, but how about this instead - a better record bet, Pats vs. Steelers. I mean, if you're going to instigate over here, you'd probably be willing to sack up and bet, no?

 

[PatsFan23]

Put me down......Pats win in a close one.

 

[Evilgrin72]

7 people ???? C'mon NE and Baltimore fans....sack up here....

I think the prospect of seeing jwvdcw's sig change isn't that exciting, combined with some of the sig choices out there, and the fact there's no real animosity between these two teams outside of today's game, makes it less appealing. Having JAA on the other side putting it under his Eagles sig doesn't add much either. The fact is, the Ravens aren't that popular on this board, and this sig bet is showing it. I can see why a Steelers fan that hates both teams would try to egg both sides on, but how about this instead - a better record bet, Pats vs. Steelers. I mean, if you're going to instigate over here, you'd probably be willing to sack up and bet, no?

Just dismayed to see so little interest when jwvdcw is doing his best to get something going here. After the amount of people we had for the Steelers/Eagles sig bet, I had expected more, that's all.I don't really relish a better record bet. It's not always representative of who has the better team, the quality of competition has too much to do with it. I'm bigger on head to head sig bets, so if the Steelers and Patriots meet again in the playoffs, I will be the first in line to sign up. In the meantime, I will be in on any sig bet offered on any game the rest of this season : Jets, Giants, Bills, Jaguars, Redskins, or Ravens. Same goes for the playoffs.

 

[bostonfred2]

7 people ???? C'mon NE and Baltimore fans....sack up here....

I think the prospect of seeing jwvdcw's sig change isn't that exciting, combined with some of the sig choices out there, and the fact there's no real animosity between these two teams outside of today's game, makes it less appealing. Having JAA on the other side putting it under his Eagles sig doesn't add much either. The fact is, the Ravens aren't that popular on this board, and this sig bet is showing it. I can see why a Steelers fan that hates both teams would try to egg both sides on, but how about this instead - a better record bet, Pats vs. Steelers. I mean, if you're going to instigate over here, you'd probably be willing to sack up and bet, no?

Just dismayed to see so little interest when jwvdcw is doing his best to get something going here. After the amount of people we had for the Steelers/Eagles sig bet, I had expected more, that's all.I don't really relish a better record bet. It's not always representative of who has the better team, the quality of competition has too much to do with it. I'm bigger on head to head sig bets, so if the Steelers and Patriots meet again in the playoffs, I will be the first in line to sign up. In the meantime, I will be in on any sig bet offered on any game the rest of this season : Jets, Giants, Bills, Jaguars, Redskins, or Ravens. Same goes for the playoffs.

Good choice. If I had to take the Steelers in that bet, I probably woudn't do it, either. As for what jwvdcw's trying to do, I have a lot of respect for him for his poker and football knowledge, but I won't do a sig bet against him - he's made it pretty clear in previous comments that he doesn't care what's in his sig, so why should I?

 

[Evilgrin72]

Good choice. If I had to take the Steelers in that bet, I probably woudn't do it, either. As for what jwvdcw's trying to do, I have a lot of respect for him for his poker and football knowledge, but I won't do a sig bet against him - he's made it pretty clear in previous comments that he doesn't care what's in his sig, so why should I?

Don't try to egg me into a "better record" bet. At the beginning of the season is one thing, this late is something completely different. Just be glad there was no NE/Pitt sig bet a few weeks back.As far as this bet goes, if you don't want to do it, don't do it. I was just trying to help him drum up some interest. Apparently there aren't a lot of NE or Baltimore fans with an abundance of confidence this week; so be it.

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down......Pats win in a close one.

Updated:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99, porkins, Patsfan23In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok, JAA

 

[jwvdcw]

Put me down......Pats win in a close one.

Updated:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99, porkins, Patsfan23In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok, JAA

Ok, here is the sig for all Pats fans should they lose:"The Pats were lucky to win their 2 super bowls. In both years, they benefitted from an officiating error that led DIRECTLY to a rule change next year(5 seconds max on a FG and defensive PI). And thats not to mention the tuck rule! Clearly, the Pats were lucky to win those and aren't even in the top 15 teams in the league. I think that the Bears are the most fun team to watch. But my favorite player is Artose Pinner. The Pats can only hope to win a legitimate super bowl as the Ravens have already done despite only playing in the NFL for a few years."I take it that the sig for the Ravens fans is the one that was suggested(nobody ever clarified it).

 

[jwvdcw]

How about a Limerick type sig for Ravens fans?

I thought my Ravens had the greatest D but now its plain to see the true greatness belongs, only to NE.

There aint no denien my Ravens were tryin but them Pats were flyin and that’s why I'm still cryin.

My Ravens are OK but the Patriots rule, I’ve come to accept it momma didn’t raise no fool!

Since nobody else said anything...this is the sig for Ravens fans should they lose.

 

[nerangers]

Defense might win championships, but points on the board win games!!!

 

[JohnHenry]

Love them PATS

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Major props to jwvdcw for having the sack to go against the world champions.Sadly his team couldn't get it done against the real defensive powerhouse of the NFL.Woot!

 

[kedrok]

Total ###-whup. Major props to the Pats and the Ravens defense.

 

[jwvdcw]

I don't think we set a proposed length of time...I could be an ### and only keep it for a day since we technically didn't set a time...but I won't. Two weeks ok with everyone?

 

[NE_REVIVAL]

2 weeks is fine.I didn't see most of the game (bringing son back to school) but it appears to have gone pretty much like I thought it would

 

[jwvdcw]

2 weeks is fine.I didn't see most of the game (bringing son back to school) but it appears to have gone pretty much like I thought it would

I must say that I thought our offense was better than that. I honestly thought that Boller had gotten better and that he would be decent against that banged up secondary. I didn't get the game here so I can't comment a lot, but I'm very disapointed.

 

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Put me down......Pats win in a close one.

Updated:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99, porkins, Patsfan23In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok, JAA

Ok, here is the sig for all Pats fans should they lose:"The Pats were lucky to win their 2 super bowls. In both years, they benefitted from an officiating error that led DIRECTLY to a rule change next year(5 seconds max on a FG and defensive PI). And thats not to mention the tuck rule! Clearly, the Pats were lucky to win those and aren't even in the top 15 teams in the league. I think that the Bears are the most fun team to watch. But my favorite player is Artose Pinner. The Pats can only hope to win a legitimate super bowl as the Ravens have already done despite only playing in the NFL for a few years."I take it that the sig for the Ravens fans is the one that was suggested(nobody ever clarified it).

:rotflmao: @ jvdcw breaking the cardinal rule in sig bets...don't post the winning sig before the game is over Cursed you are to bear that mark of shame for the next 2 weeks

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Sadly his team couldn't get it done against the real defensive powerhouse of the NFL.

Actually, they beat the Steelers in week 2.

 

[jwvdcw]

,Nov 28 2004, 08:57 PM]

Put me down......Pats win in a close one.

Updated:In for Pats: NE_REVIVAL, SeniorVBDStudent, Anarchy99, porkins, Patsfan23In for the Ravens: jwvdcw, kedrok, JAA

Ok, here is the sig for all Pats fans should they lose:"The Pats were lucky to win their 2 super bowls. In both years, they benefitted from an officiating error that led DIRECTLY to a rule change next year(5 seconds max on a FG and defensive PI). And thats not to mention the tuck rule! Clearly, the Pats were lucky to win those and aren't even in the top 15 teams in the league. I think that the Bears are the most fun team to watch. But my favorite player is Artose Pinner. The Pats can only hope to win a legitimate super bowl as the Ravens have already done despite only playing in the NFL for a few years."I take it that the sig for the Ravens fans is the one that was suggested(nobody ever clarified it).

:rotflmao: @ jvdcw breaking the cardinal rule in sig bets...don't post the winning sig before the game is over Cursed you are to bear that mark of shame for the next 2 weeks

I thought we were supposed to do this...So maybe thats why I've lost the only 2 sig bets I've ever done!