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Laveraneus Coles......released by NYJ (3 Viewers)
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Toxic Gatorade
Footballguy
Per ESPN NFL LIVE......
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
You think Pennington has called the Tuna yet to put in a good word?Seems like a perfect fit for Miami.
thriftyrocker
Footballguy
wow. they don't have much behind Cotchery now. Stuckey is at best a #3 slot guy. Clowney showed glimpses as a deep threat but was hurt all year and already cut by another team. Total rebuild mode? Was there any contract dispute?
Banger
Footballguy
I could definitely see that happening.
Toxic Gatorade
Footballguy
Talk about Rex Ryan cleaning house..............dude brought the BIG broom with him from BMore.
Toxic Gatorade
Footballguy
Until you think of who's slinging the pigskin........
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
"Ratliff-to-Stuckey" is not what fantasy football dreams are made of.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Per Rotoworld:
Laveranues Coles-WR- Jets Feb. 25 - 4:26 pm et
Jets released WR Laveranues Coles.
Coles' $6 million 2009 salary remains guaranteed, however, and the Jets are open to bringing him back. Coles also seems open to it. "We didn't leave on bad terms," he said. "It's not out of the question that I could come back." Still, Coles wants an extension and the Jets are hesitant to appease him at age 30 with declining long speed. If no reunion is worked out, Coles becomes arguably the No. 2 receiver on the market, behind only T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
Source: Newark Star-Ledger
Couch Potato opinion is that Coles' situation will probably be better with a new team (by the way, he WON'T be back with the Jets with a new deal, I'll promise you that). In NY with Clemens/Ratliff/etc. at QB and Ryan committing heavily to the run, Cotchery and the younger guys Clowney, Stuckey and TE Keller there, Coles was going to see a decline in targets.
On the open market, he'll go to a team who will make it a point to use him. He's only 31 and is actually healthier than some years he's had good production (turf toe issues as I recall). We could see a revival for the next year or two with Coles. Dynasty owners, DON'T CUT HIM on the news of his release. He'll be better off than before.
Edited to say that Coles is 31, not 30 as stated in the Rotoworld blurb above.
Laveranues Coles-WR- Jets Feb. 25 - 4:26 pm et
Jets released WR Laveranues Coles.
Coles' $6 million 2009 salary remains guaranteed, however, and the Jets are open to bringing him back. Coles also seems open to it. "We didn't leave on bad terms," he said. "It's not out of the question that I could come back." Still, Coles wants an extension and the Jets are hesitant to appease him at age 30 with declining long speed. If no reunion is worked out, Coles becomes arguably the No. 2 receiver on the market, behind only T.J. Houshmandzadeh.
Source: Newark Star-Ledger
Couch Potato opinion is that Coles' situation will probably be better with a new team (by the way, he WON'T be back with the Jets with a new deal, I'll promise you that). In NY with Clemens/Ratliff/etc. at QB and Ryan committing heavily to the run, Cotchery and the younger guys Clowney, Stuckey and TE Keller there, Coles was going to see a decline in targets.
On the open market, he'll go to a team who will make it a point to use him. He's only 31 and is actually healthier than some years he's had good production (turf toe issues as I recall). We could see a revival for the next year or two with Coles. Dynasty owners, DON'T CUT HIM on the news of his release. He'll be better off than before.
Edited to say that Coles is 31, not 30 as stated in the Rotoworld blurb above.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Plus they have to pay him, as they guaranteed the last two years on his contract to placate him when he was crying last offseason for an extension. Doesn't make much sense to cut him. They could have at least shopped him around.Rovers said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
If that's the case then its not such a bad thing. They could bring in another WR with that $.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
That's correct. He's more interested in a longer deal than the guarantee, and he's taking the risk that it'll work out better this way. We'll see........
Buckeyedawgs
Footballguy
He is nothing but a whinner that just thru away at least 4 million. Can;t get open much anymore anyway. I don;t think he will get 2 million on open market. Clowney benefits most I would think. Stuckey and Crochery are more short route/ slot runners. Of coarse this all might be for naught if they can;t find an effetive qb. Clemons isnt the answer proven. Ratliff might be in time?
Couch Potato
Footballguy
LINK
New York Jets release wide receiver Laveranues Coles
by Dave Hutchinson/Star-Ledger Staff
Wednesday February 25, 2009, 4:13 PM
William Perlman/The Star-LedgerThe Jets released Laveranues Coles Wednesday, but it is possible the wide receiver could return to the team.
The Jets released veteran wide receiver Laveranues Coles this afternoon -- but both sides left open the possibility of his return to the team.
Coles, who was scheduled to earn a guaranteed $6 million salary for the 2009-10 season, wanted a long-term deal with the team. But when the two sides could not reach an agreement, they reached a compromise, giving Coles the right to find his own deal on the open market on the eve of free agency.
"We didn't leave on bad terms,'' Coles said. "It's not out of the question that I could come back."
Coles, 31, is taking a gamble , as his contract for the upcoming season was guaranteed, something unusual in the NFL. Coles, however, feels a long-term deal is more important to him than they guarantee.
"I look at it as a long-term thing,'' he said. "It's something my agent (Roosevelt Barnes) and I (discussed) for a long time. I trust my agent. He's been in my corner for a long time. He gave me his opinion. He said he truly believed we could get a long-term deal on the open market and I took his word for it.
"I want to go somewhere where I can finish my career. I don't want to bounce from team to team. I hope to play another three or four years."
The Jets and new coach Rex Ryan told Coles a new deal was not going to happen with them right now.
"Rex and I had a good talk,'' Coles said. "He explained to me that he didn't want to give veterans who are in their second contract a new deal before their current deal was completed.
"I explained to him that my situation was a little bit different because this situation has been ongoing. But I understand what Rex is trying to do and I don't want to jeopardize what he's trying to put in place. He has been honest with me from the word, 'Go.'"
Coles was drafted by the Jets in the third round of the 2000 draft and has played on the team for seven of his nine seasons in the league. He signed a free-agent deal with the Redskins before the start of the 2003 season, but was traded back to the Jets two years later.
Last season, Coles had 70 catches for 850 yards and seven touchdowns. For his career, Coles has 459 catches for 5,941 yards and 37 touchdowns.
The free-agent signing period begins at 12:01 a.m. on Friday morning.
"My time with the Jets was great," Coles said. "I love the fans, my teammates and my coaches. I always wanted to finish my career in New York, but I've always said this is a business."
New York Jets release wide receiver Laveranues Coles
by Dave Hutchinson/Star-Ledger Staff
Wednesday February 25, 2009, 4:13 PM
William Perlman/The Star-LedgerThe Jets released Laveranues Coles Wednesday, but it is possible the wide receiver could return to the team.
The Jets released veteran wide receiver Laveranues Coles this afternoon -- but both sides left open the possibility of his return to the team.
Coles, who was scheduled to earn a guaranteed $6 million salary for the 2009-10 season, wanted a long-term deal with the team. But when the two sides could not reach an agreement, they reached a compromise, giving Coles the right to find his own deal on the open market on the eve of free agency.
"We didn't leave on bad terms,'' Coles said. "It's not out of the question that I could come back."
Coles, 31, is taking a gamble , as his contract for the upcoming season was guaranteed, something unusual in the NFL. Coles, however, feels a long-term deal is more important to him than they guarantee.
"I look at it as a long-term thing,'' he said. "It's something my agent (Roosevelt Barnes) and I (discussed) for a long time. I trust my agent. He's been in my corner for a long time. He gave me his opinion. He said he truly believed we could get a long-term deal on the open market and I took his word for it.
"I want to go somewhere where I can finish my career. I don't want to bounce from team to team. I hope to play another three or four years."
The Jets and new coach Rex Ryan told Coles a new deal was not going to happen with them right now.
"Rex and I had a good talk,'' Coles said. "He explained to me that he didn't want to give veterans who are in their second contract a new deal before their current deal was completed.
"I explained to him that my situation was a little bit different because this situation has been ongoing. But I understand what Rex is trying to do and I don't want to jeopardize what he's trying to put in place. He has been honest with me from the word, 'Go.'"
Coles was drafted by the Jets in the third round of the 2000 draft and has played on the team for seven of his nine seasons in the league. He signed a free-agent deal with the Redskins before the start of the 2003 season, but was traded back to the Jets two years later.
Last season, Coles had 70 catches for 850 yards and seven touchdowns. For his career, Coles has 459 catches for 5,941 yards and 37 touchdowns.
The free-agent signing period begins at 12:01 a.m. on Friday morning.
"My time with the Jets was great," Coles said. "I love the fans, my teammates and my coaches. I always wanted to finish my career in New York, but I've always said this is a business."
Sweetness_34
Footballguy
Thomas Jones owners should be upset right now. This hurts him a lot, because now with no Favre and Coles, that O is gonna struggle a lot. And TJ has never been the kind of RB that could produce without having a strong O around him.
OTOH, the TE (forget the name of the rookie from last year) should benefit a lot in PPR leagues since he will get a lot of targets next year.
OTOH, the TE (forget the name of the rookie from last year) should benefit a lot in PPR leagues since he will get a lot of targets next year.
I would think Keller benefits the most from this. With Coles gone he could get 70+ catches.ETA: Coles is exactly the type of WR the Jaguars should go after, but they might be a little gun shy. Or, they might just really like Jones/Walker/Northcutt.
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Couch Potato
Footballguy
Just wanted to add a thought... although agents and teams aren't allowed to negotiate before the free agency period begins, we all know they do it. I doubt Coles is taking such a big risk here in letting the Jets out of the $6 mil guarantee. I suspect he already has a landing place lined up or he wouldn't have done this, and knows he's going to come out OK financially. I really doubt it's the "gamble" the news outlets are making it out to be.
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Time to go home 'Verne!
Touchdown Syndrome
Footballguy
Why are so many assuming that the Jets are going into the 2009 season with their WR corps as-is? Either due to trades, FA's ,or the draft, the Jets are not going to be starting the season with Cotchery and Stuckey as their starting WRs.....i hope.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Contracts are structured in such convoluted ways that it's hard to say what it all means sometimes, but I did read one source suggest he's in line for about $7 mil/yr. http://www.newerascouting.com/top_stories/...agency-preview/
the branded hand
Footballguy
One hyphenated name... Darrius Heyward-Bey... a slim possibility, but...
Carolina Hustler
Footballguy
Not sure this effects TJ's FF #'s drastically. He can catch the ball coming out of the backfield. Most likely less carries, but maybe more receptions. Nice in a PPR
Reaper
Footballguy
I bet you he signs a deal that look like more to a player on paper but in the end when he gets cut before the big $$$ kicks in he'll be wondering WTF happened...He could have had 6 million for 1 year. he won't get that - He'll probably make that in 2 years now.Like Harrison thought he was going to get paid.He's also an injury risk including concussions... It may sound like Jets fans are bitter but, Jets fans have been calling this one for a while... The thinking was this year was his last cuz, he'd NEVER walk away from 6 million on the table - You'd have to be nuts... But, he did...I think the Jets were given a favor here.
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SeniorVBDStudent
Footballguy
Jason Wood
Zoo York
Interesting, I've always liked Coles as a player, but he seemed to have fallen into a bit of a "iffy teammate" rep in NY of late. Wouldn't mind if the Birds took a look at him.
jeter23
Footballguy
Of course, any contact between Coles reps and any other teams before this afternoon would not be kosher, but Coles (and any other players that have been cut) can sign with any other team right now. They do not have to wait until the FA period begins.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
In actuality Coles has not been released. What they've done is agree to restructure his contract so that his 2009 contract year is not included. So, he becomes a UFA on Friday like the other UFAs whose contracts will run out (see 2nd paragraph of link below).http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2009/02/n...e_wide_rec.html
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Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Cleveland is the most likely spot. MIN next option.
Outside dark horses are Miami and Dallas.
Other spots can make sense, but it'll depend on $ and how likely they are to be playoff teams.
All four of these can pull this off.
One last interesting team to mention is the Redskins.
Don't even bother saying Philly - won't happen.
Outside dark horses are Miami and Dallas.
Other spots can make sense, but it'll depend on $ and how likely they are to be playoff teams.
All four of these can pull this off.
One last interesting team to mention is the Redskins.
Don't even bother saying Philly - won't happen.
Couch Potato
Footballguy
Reading Google news blurbs, some are saying Stuckey but that may just be because he was the #3 last year. Others say he's better to stay as the #3, in the slot, and Clowney will get a shot. Some say they will draft WR early since Cotchery really is best suited as a #2, others think a FA will be added. When it's all added up, esp with the limited use of the passing game if what Ryan says is true, I have to wonder if Clowney/Stuckey (Cluckey?) is worth rostering at this time... of course that depends on who you'd be cutting.Not much help am I? Haha.... long way of saying I have no idea!
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Reaper
Footballguy
I think Cleveland is the least likely spot.I think Coles feels Mangini was the start of him being "decieved" about contract situations. I also think Coles believes Mangini disrespected and then dumped his best buddy Chad.... Again, Mangini isn't that great communicating with players and Coles hasn't felt loved in a while.I'm expecting Parcells to come up with a deal that looks good on paper but, with incentives and a lot less guarantees and Coles jumps at it to be with his buddy.
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Reaper
Footballguy
There was a report out of NY where coaches and possibly players were shocked that Clowney didn't get more playing time from Mangini... Apparently he's shown a lot in practice as well as the preseason stats we know...... And yeah, Stuckey is considered the slot guy.We did Winter Survivor leagues a few weeks back and right now I wish I had me some Clowney for my last round pick - no matter who the Jets pick up.
FUBAR
Footballguy
The connection is easy to see and Coles/Ginn/Bess makes a decent trio even if Cam doesn't come back. (BTW, any word on him?)
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Coles and Mangini had their share of problems (Coles was a big tim PIA during Mangini's first season complaining about how hard he worked the team all during TC), but that could happen as they worked through it and Mangini would love to bring a tough as nails player aboard with him I'd guess.Coles is still a hell of a player, but I agree with those that said this was a good result for the Jets. That $6MM can be put to better use and they can still bring in a lower level FA WR and go with Clowney and Stuckey who both have lots of promise.I will also disagree with those that say Cothery cannot be a #1 type WR. He has shown big play ability in the past, has great stregnth and hands. He is either second to Tory Holt or ahead of Holt in almost every NC State receving record - he had alot to do with River's succees there (and I'm sure Rivers had alot to do with his success as well).
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rzrback77
Footballguy
Majority seems to be that the JETS did well by releasing him (maybe that's all disgruntled JETS fans though). I think that he will do very well in free agency, expecially with the additional cap money floating around.
Are dynasty owners happier that he has an opportunity for greener pastures than the JETS appear to offer for 09?
Are dynasty owners happier that he has an opportunity for greener pastures than the JETS appear to offer for 09?
