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Lesean McCoy? How concerned are we? (1 Viewer)

I'm not concerned. Just another coach resting McCoy and/or trying to make another coach prepare for a game both with and without McCoy. DeAngelo Williams did well vs Patriots last week. No reason to think McCoy can't do something similar.

 
bjabrad said:
I'm not concerned. Just another coach resting McCoy and/or trying to make another coach prepare for a game both with and without McCoy. DeAngelo Williams did well vs Patriots last week. No reason to think McCoy can't do something similar.
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He has a hamstring injury and left practice on Thursday. That's one reason.

 
Sitting for Woodhead, Sproles, Abdullah and Dion Lewis respectively.

Ffs how did I end up with this guy in 4 leagues.

 
Yes Williams was good. But BUF is using McCoy strategically so as to save him for games where they need him. BUF got up on MIA early and from what I saw only used McCoy on third downs and goal line situations. Smart of them to save him for games and situations in the future where he can do the most good. Not worried,,,,yet.

 
bjabrad said:
Yes Williams was good. But BUF is using McCoy strategically so as to save him for games where they need him. BUF got up on MIA early and from what I saw only used McCoy on third downs and goal line situations. Smart of them to save him for games and situations in the future where he can do the most good. Not worried,,,,yet.
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Except what does he do when he even does get touches or is on the field? Its fine that they are saving him but does him getting more carries equate to him magically getting better?

 
TDorBust said:
bjabrad said:
Yes Williams was good. But BUF is using McCoy strategically so as to save him for games where they need him. BUF got up on MIA early and from what I saw only used McCoy on third downs and goal line situations. Smart of them to save him for games and situations in the future where he can do the most good. Not worried,,,,yet.
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Except what does he do when he even does get touches or is on the field? Its fine that they are saving him but does him getting more carries equate to him magically getting better?
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Yeah, I'm in agreement with this and don't really buy the "saving him" talk. And to be clear, I only play in one league and it's a dynasty league where I've had McCoy for his entire career, rookie year to the present, and I don't have Williams. McCoy had 15 for 89 last week so I'm not panicking. He had some nice games last year as well, but it's starting to feel like it's been a very long time since he had a stretch of great games and the possibility that the decline is well-underway has to be considered at some point.

 
Reason Rex protecting Shady by saying, "LeSean McCoy playing on 'one and a half legs" is... 3/8/2015: Signed a five-year, $40 million contract. The deal contains $26.05 million guaranteed, including a $13.125 million signing bonus. Rex will keep starting him.

 
gethugefast1 said:
Reason Rex protecting Shady by saying, "LeSean McCoy playing on 'one and a half legs" is... 3/8/2015: Signed a five-year, $40 million contract. The deal contains $26.05 million guaranteed, including a $13.125 million signing bonus. Rex will keep starting him.
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yeah that would be hard to swallow. then again, he also wants to win. but that contract does make it harder to sit him.

 
Lots of rumors floating around that McCoy will be held out of week 4 vs. NYG. Just rumors at this point, but a situation worth watching.

 
Rotoworld:

LeSean McCoy - RB - Bills

Bills coach Rex Ryan conceded in a radio interview Wednesday that LeSean McCoy (hamstring) is almost certainly out for Week 4.

Karlos Williams will be a hot commodity in DFS this week, and should be treated as a borderline RB1 in season-long leagues. "I’m telling everybody, ‘Oh yeah, he’s got a great chance,’ but we all know he doesn’t," Rex said of McCoy's status. If Williams capitalizes on his opportunity against the Giants, he could continue to eat heavily into McCoy's rest-of-season workload.

Source: Mike Rodak on Twitter

Sep 30 - 8:18 PM
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Mike RodakESPN Staff Writer
LeSean McCoy said Friday he suffered a setback with his hamstring injury last Thursday. "I kind of hurt it again. And that's where it went wrong. I tried to really push it. I guess I messed something up."

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Mike RodakESPN Staff Writer
LeSean McCoy says he won't play until he's 100 percent. Doesn't rule out sitting out more games.



 
shadyridr said:
Im very happy he is out and healing. I dont think Karlos proves a threat when McCoy comes back
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Karlos was proving a threat before McCoy was injured. At this point I think it's his job to lose (once he's back from concussion).

McCoy hasn't been a good RB for a year and a half. He lost 'it' long ago and anyone who thinks he'll revert back to 2013 form are waaaaaay behind the curve.

 
Warrior said:
shadyridr said:
Im very happy he is out and healing. I dont think Karlos proves a threat when McCoy comes back
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Karlos was proving a threat before McCoy was injured. At this point I think it's his job to lose (once he's back from concussion).

McCoy hasn't been a good RB for a year and a half. He lost 'it' long ago and anyone who thinks he'll revert back to 2013 form are waaaaaay behind the curve.
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2010-2013 YPC: 5.0, receiving yards between 315-592 every year.

2013 YPC: 4.2, 155 rec yards.

Someone stuck a fork in him long ago.

 
Warrior said:
shadyridr said:
Im very happy he is out and healing. I dont think Karlos proves a threat when McCoy comes back
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Karlos was proving a threat before McCoy was injured. At this point I think it's his job to lose (once he's back from concussion).

McCoy hasn't been a good RB for a year and a half. He lost 'it' long ago and anyone who thinks he'll revert back to 2013 form are waaaaaay behind the curve.
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Agree on Karlos being a potential threat, strongly disagree that McCoy hasnt been good for a year and a half or "lost it long ago."

He started off slow, like the whole Eagles running game did last year and this, but still averaged 4.6 ypc over his final 12 games and finished 3rd in the league in rushing last year. He's 27.

McCoy has plenty of good football left in him.

 
mikel0254 said:
Deamon said:
bostonfred said:
This guy's going to win people championships when he comes back.
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:lmao:
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Disagree. You see it every year when a fresh back comes in mid season and proves extremely valuable. McCoy will be very rested and healthy after their bye week. He could help win championships when he's back.
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you need to factor in how good those teams are. In most leagues about 50% of teams make the playoffs.... teams whose #1 or maybe #2 rbs are missing the first 8 weeks, are at a disadvantage. I'm in no way able to know how good the teams are, and maybe they got some great RB values later and are doing well, but losing a high pick like mccoy for half of the fantasy season hurts a team and gives them a lower then 50% shot at making playoffs.

Won't win a championship if you're 3-5 when he comes back.

 
VaTerp said:
Warrior said:
shadyridr said:
Im very happy he is out and healing. I dont think Karlos proves a threat when McCoy comes back
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Karlos was proving a threat before McCoy was injured. At this point I think it's his job to lose (once he's back from concussion).

McCoy hasn't been a good RB for a year and a half. He lost 'it' long ago and anyone who thinks he'll revert back to 2013 form are waaaaaay behind the curve.
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Agree on Karlos being a potential threat, strongly disagree that McCoy hasnt been good for a year and a half or "lost it long ago."

He started off slow, like the whole Eagles running game did last year and this, but still averaged 4.6 ypc over his final 12 games and finished 3rd in the league in rushing last year. He's 27.

McCoy has plenty of good football left in him.
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I'm sure the truth, like many things, lies somewhere in between. He won't be as bad as some people think, but he won't be a total beast and dominant like others claim. Karlos will cut into his carries, but he still has high rb2 production. If mccoy owners can make it to the playoffs he may help, but he's not going to be a strong RB1 once he returns.

 
Deamon said:
VaTerp said:
Warrior said:
shadyridr said:
Im very happy he is out and healing. I dont think Karlos proves a threat when McCoy comes back
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Karlos was proving a threat before McCoy was injured. At this point I think it's his job to lose (once he's back from concussion).

McCoy hasn't been a good RB for a year and a half. He lost 'it' long ago and anyone who thinks he'll revert back to 2013 form are waaaaaay behind the curve.
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Agree on Karlos being a potential threat, strongly disagree that McCoy hasnt been good for a year and a half or "lost it long ago."

He started off slow, like the whole Eagles running game did last year and this, but still averaged 4.6 ypc over his final 12 games and finished 3rd in the league in rushing last year. He's 27.

McCoy has plenty of good football left in him.
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I'm sure the truth, like many things, lies somewhere in between. He won't be as bad as some people think, but he won't be a total beast and dominant like others claim. Karlos will cut into his carries, but he still has high rb2 production. If mccoy owners can make it to the playoffs he may help, but he's not going to be a strong RB1 once he returns.
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I'm just disputing the notion that McCoy is "done" or "lost 'it' long ago." Dont think thats the case at all.

There are other factors that go into FF production and being a strong RB1 for those purposes. So I'd tend to agree with the gist of your post.

 
VaTerp said:
Deamon said:
VaTerp said:
Warrior said:
shadyridr said:
Im very happy he is out and healing. I dont think Karlos proves a threat when McCoy comes back
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Karlos was proving a threat before McCoy was injured. At this point I think it's his job to lose (once he's back from concussion).

McCoy hasn't been a good RB for a year and a half. He lost 'it' long ago and anyone who thinks he'll revert back to 2013 form are waaaaaay behind the curve.
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Agree on Karlos being a potential threat, strongly disagree that McCoy hasnt been good for a year and a half or "lost it long ago."

He started off slow, like the whole Eagles running game did last year and this, but still averaged 4.6 ypc over his final 12 games and finished 3rd in the league in rushing last year. He's 27.

McCoy has plenty of good football left in him.
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I'm sure the truth, like many things, lies somewhere in between. He won't be as bad as some people think, but he won't be a total beast and dominant like others claim. Karlos will cut into his carries, but he still has high rb2 production. If mccoy owners can make it to the playoffs he may help, but he's not going to be a strong RB1 once he returns.
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I'm just disputing the notion that McCoy is "done" or "lost 'it' long ago." Dont think thats the case at all.

There are other factors that go into FF production and being a strong RB1 for those purposes. So I'd tend to agree with the gist of your post.
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Ah yes, we are talking 2 different conversations then. I was responding to the "he is going to win a lot of owners championships once he returns"

 
If Karlos does emerge as the better RB, what are Buffalo's options wrt McCoy's contract? Or is McCoy embedded in the team because he's got a pretty fat contract and there's not much way out of it?

 
Sandeman said:
If Karlos does emerge as the better RB, what are Buffalo's options wrt McCoy's contract? Or is McCoy embedded in the team because he's got a pretty fat contract and there's not much way out of it?
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Even if Karlos comes out and is as amazing as his owners on this board think he is, I think they just use both. Ryan would love to have 2 good backs and rotate them.

 
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look who he plays week 14 which is the 1st round of the playoffs.

the whole schedule after the bye is a joke

 
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Two away games, one against Philly and the other at Washington during the fantasy playoffs. He couldn't really even make hay against crappy rush defenses.

 
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