Lions to trade Rogers within a week (1 Viewer)

[Max Power]

Lions | Team to trade Rogers within a week

Sat, 23 Feb 2008 09:52:46 -0800

Adam Schefter, of the NFL Network, reports the Detroit Lions will trade DT Shaun Rogers within the next week. Four teams have shown interest in Rogers, according to Schefter.

 

[Jason Wood]

Wow...some team is going to get a potential beast; probably on the cheap.

 

[Max Power]

Rogers is a monster if you can limit him to 15-20 snaps a game. After 7-8 plays into a drive he becomes a liability.

I can't get over how terrible Millen really is. Rogers has issues, but is still probably one of the top 3 on D. I would think bringing in another DT for 3rd downs would be a better Idea.

 

[saintfool]

Wow...some team is going to get a potential beast; probably on the cheap.

pleasepleaseplease come to the saints.

 

[bucknuts30]

You can bet Dan Snyder will get in on that action.

 

[Koya]

Hmmm, any chance for the Giants? I know most people talk about DBs and LBs, but if we could get a monster on the interior DL, that group becomes better than the best in the league and approaching one of the better for a long time. With their flexibility there already, if you need to rest Rogers a bit, that wouldnt be much of an issue.

 

[Boston]

The guy needs to prove he can stay focused. Physical ability is not the issue with Rogers. If he goes to a team with a solid veteran-influenced lockerroom he could really be a player. If he goes somewhere where discipline and maturity aren't in abundance he could underachieve and dissapoint.

 

[thatguy]

Would love to see him land in Denver.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

 

[Tyrion]

Dallas is loaded at Nose tackle but Rogers would be better.

 

[Max Power]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

They think he is lazy and takes too many plays off.

 

[delusional]

After Paterson getting busted for weed ( yea it was under 50g, he wasnt high and just said it was his to cover for his brother ) i wouldn't be surprised to see the eagles shoot for him if he can be had cheap.

 

[redman]

You can bet Dan Snyder will get in on that action.

I doubt it, actually. They've said that they're going to maintain a low profile this offseason, and they appear to be posturing to use their draft to add depth this year, meaning that they won't want to trade away picks.

 

[TwinTurbo]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

They think he is lazy and takes too many plays off.

He's still the best player on this team. Some would argue Roy Williams but Shaun Rogers is a beast. The Lions are such a joke franchise. They need better players and now they are trading away their best. And somehow I'm guessing they will squander whatever picks they get in return for Rogers. If you got a guy like Millen running the show, you don't want him to have more draft picks because he will waste them. You want him to go after proven vets and free agents and establish a core to build around on defense. Shaun Rogers is part of that core. If he's lazy, then half the NFL is lazy. The guy dominates.

 

[redman]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

You new to football?

 

[Atomic Punk]

Does anyone think they may be targetting someone at the top of the draft and would be willing trade Rogers and swap #1's with STL, ATL, OAK, NYJ?

 

[msommer]

A rotation with Haynesworth would be fantastic...

 

[LBH]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

 

[DaDaDaDawg]

Derrick Anderson for Rogers seems to be a trade that makes perfect sense for Cleveland and Detroit

 

[TheWick]

We'll take him in St.Louis...next few weeks are gonna be real interesting

 

[trader jake]

It sounds like a lot of you haven't watched Rogers leave games with various injuries and/or take entire months off.

This guy isn't worth the hopes and dreams that the fans of his new team will place on his shoulders. He's the latest Joe Johnson.

 

[Routilla]

As a Cowboys fan I hope we trade Roy Williams for Rogers straight up.

 

[redman]

As a Cowboys fan I hope we trade Roy Williams for Rogers straight up.

 

[QUEZILLA]

I wonder what they could get for him? I wonder if one of these other disgruntled players would be willing to go to Det.

 

[Routilla]

As a Cowboys fan I hope we trade Roy Williams for Rogers straight up.

One can only hope.

 

[IAmTheBruteSquad]

Would love to see him land in Denver.

Amen brother. We were only in the bottom 3 if not last in rush def last year, right??? And Denver has had recent history w/trading with detroit. Would love to see a veteran on the D-line to help the progression of our young guys. Hey, I got an idea. We'll trade Walker/I.Gold for Roy Williams/S. Rogers!!! That would be sweet!!! If anyone could pull it off, it'd be Millen....

 

[Chase Stuart]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

They think he is lazy and takes too many plays off.

He's still the best player on this team. Some would argue Roy Williams but Shaun Rogers is a beast. The Lions are such a joke franchise. They need better players and now they are trading away their best. And somehow I'm guessing they will squander whatever picks they get in return for Rogers. If you got a guy like Millen running the show, you don't want him to have more draft picks because he will waste them. You want him to go after proven vets and free agents and establish a core to build around on defense. Shaun Rogers is part of that core. If he's lazy, then half the NFL is lazy. The guy dominates.

Millen should take the blame for a lot of what's gone wrong in Detroit, but I don't think he's been bad with his draft picks. Say what you want about how they turned out, but BMW was by all accounts a steal where he was drafted, and everyone thought Charles Rogers was a good pick at that spot. Roy Williams has worked out, and Ernie Sims has proven the critics wrong. Kevin Jones was also a strong pick, and Cory Redding has been pretty decent. Johnson, whatever happens to him, was a fine pick.Cody, Bailey and Lehman didn't work out, and have suffered injuries (like Bullocks). All were talented guys, though, and praised at the time of the draft. I think the blame for a lot of the failures of those picks have to fall on the coaching staff(s) and not the GM. He only buys the groceries, it's not his fault if the chef overcooks 'em.

 

[trader jake]

Millen should take the blame for a lot of what's gone wrong in Detroit, but I don't think he's been bad with his draft picks. Say what you want about how they turned out, but BMW was by all accounts a steal where he was drafted, and everyone thought Charles Rogers was a good pick at that spot. Roy Williams has worked out, and Ernie Sims has proven the critics wrong. Kevin Jones was also a strong pick, and Cory Redding has been pretty decent. Johnson, whatever happens to him, was a fine pick.Cody, Bailey and Lehman didn't work out, and have suffered injuries (like Bullocks). All were talented guys, though, and praised at the time of the draft. I think the blame for a lot of the failures of those picks have to fall on the coaching staff(s) and not the GM. He only buys the groceries, it's not his fault if the chef overcooks 'em.

Really? Put down the bottle Chase. He's like a coach who has some ability with X's and O's but can't lead a group of men to save his life.Matt Millen is just not a good GM. He has a decent football mind and is perfectly suited to be a talking head on TV but he's a nightmare as a GM. Matt Millen will go down as one of the biggest failures at that profession in NFL history. He's had numerous top 10 picks and he didn't completely screw up a few of them? That's not a convincing argument my friend.

 

[massraider]

Booth Newspapers reports the Lions would prefer to trade DT Shaun Rogers out of the NFC.

A source tells beat writer Tom Kowalski that two AFC clubs, both in the same division, have emerged as the "frontrunners" to acquire Rogers. We suspect the teams are the Raiders and the Broncos.

I am guessing a 4th round pick is the price. And Rogers may have his faults, but I like his chances better than any DT that'll go in the 4th this year.

 

[mad sweeney]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

They think he is lazy and takes too many plays off.

He's still the best player on this team. Some would argue Roy Williams but Shaun Rogers is a beast. The Lions are such a joke franchise. They need better players and now they are trading away their best. And somehow I'm guessing they will squander whatever picks they get in return for Rogers. If you got a guy like Millen running the show, you don't want him to have more draft picks because he will waste them. You want him to go after proven vets and free agents and establish a core to build around on defense. Shaun Rogers is part of that core. If he's lazy, then half the NFL is lazy. The guy dominates.

Millen should take the blame for a lot of what's gone wrong in Detroit, but I don't think he's been bad with his draft picks. Say what you want about how they turned out, but BMW was by all accounts a steal where he was drafted, and everyone thought Charles Rogers was a good pick at that spot. Roy Williams has worked out, and Ernie Sims has proven the critics wrong. Kevin Jones was also a strong pick, and Cory Redding has been pretty decent. Johnson, whatever happens to him, was a fine pick.Cody, Bailey and Lehman didn't work out, and have suffered injuries (like Bullocks). All were talented guys, though, and praised at the time of the draft. I think the blame for a lot of the failures of those picks have to fall on the coaching staff(s) and not the GM. He only buys the groceries, it's not his fault if the chef overcooks 'em.

I think this is the first defense of Millen I have ever seen.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Millen should take the blame for a lot of what's gone wrong in Detroit, but I don't think he's been bad with his draft picks. Say what you want about how they turned out, but BMW was by all accounts a steal where he was drafted, and everyone thought Charles Rogers was a good pick at that spot. Roy Williams has worked out, and Ernie Sims has proven the critics wrong. Kevin Jones was also a strong pick, and Cory Redding has been pretty decent. Johnson, whatever happens to him, was a fine pick.Cody, Bailey and Lehman didn't work out, and have suffered injuries (like Bullocks). All were talented guys, though, and praised at the time of the draft. I think the blame for a lot of the failures of those picks have to fall on the coaching staff(s) and not the GM. He only buys the groceries, it's not his fault if the chef overcooks 'em.

Really? Put down the bottle Chase. He's like a coach who has some ability with X's and O's but can't lead a group of men to save his life.Matt Millen is just not a good GM. He has a decent football mind and is perfectly suited to be a talking head on TV but he's a nightmare as a GM. Matt Millen will go down as one of the biggest failures at that profession in NFL history. He's had numerous top 10 picks and he didn't completely screw up a few of them? That's not a convincing argument my friend.

I never said Millen was a good GM, and actually implied that he's a pretty bad GM. Saying Millen is going to mess up his next group of draft picks, however, is a pretty tenuous argument IMO. Millen's been a bad enough GM on his own that I don't see a need to exaggerate his sucktitude.

 

[Kiddnets]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

makes sense but if Vilma is healthy he probably nets a 2nd or 3rd rder while Rogers is a 4th - perhaps a swap with Det kicking in a pick to make u[ the difference - JEts need beef on the DL thats for sure.

 

[Max Power]

LOL at Detroit...

Millen's Offseason plans

1. Trade Rogers

2. Trade Roy Williams

3. Explore trade for Kevin Jones

4. Trade Shaun McDonald

5. Bring in ???

6. Draft should work out well as they need help everywhere

7. Regress in 08

 

[Chadstroma]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

I think you answered your own question without knowing it.

 

[Chadstroma]

Does anyone think they may be targetting someone at the top of the draft and would be willing trade Rogers and swap #1's with STL, ATL, OAK, NYJ?

As an Oakland fan, I would gladly take him for our 1st. He would really anchor the line and I think really take that D to an elite level. His addition would allow the speed behind him to really flourish. What better way to protect the young Russell than having a killer defense that takes the pressure off of him? We could always sign and trade Porter. Doesn't Detriot like getting WR's?

 

[Chadstroma]

A rotation with Haynesworth would be fantastic...

Haynesworth and Rogers playing together would be scary sick.

 

[Swanson]

Oakland and Denver(especially) seem like good fits. How about Jax(Stroud is hurt and return to form indefinite) and Tenn(running mate for Haynesworth). If you get him to a team with strong leadership......a 4th rounder for him is a steal. Getting out of Detroit should be just what the doctor ordered.

 

[Max Power]

Does anyone think they may be targetting someone at the top of the draft and would be willing trade Rogers and swap #1's with STL, ATL, OAK, NYJ?

As an Oakland fan, I would gladly take him for our 1st. He would really anchor the line and I think really take that D to an elite level. His addition would allow the speed behind him to really flourish. What better way to protect the young Russell than having a killer defense that takes the pressure off of him? We could always sign and trade Porter. Doesn't Detriot like getting WR's?

OAK sounds like a logical place for Rogers to end up. Although if DEN is the other team that is interested, they could probably swing a better trade.

 

[Max Power]

Another What if....Trade him to Cinci for Chris Perry and pick.

 

[Chadstroma]

Does anyone think they may be targetting someone at the top of the draft and would be willing trade Rogers and swap #1's with STL, ATL, OAK, NYJ?

As an Oakland fan, I would gladly take him for our 1st. He would really anchor the line and I think really take that D to an elite level. His addition would allow the speed behind him to really flourish. What better way to protect the young Russell than having a killer defense that takes the pressure off of him? We could always sign and trade Porter. Doesn't Detriot like getting WR's?

OAK sounds like a logical place for Rogers to end up. Although if DEN is the other team that is interested, they could probably swing a better trade.

I guess it depends on what Detroit is looking for. The Raiders have the better position in offering more value in picks. I would really love to see this move. I get sick when I see our DT's currently on roster and I think Rogers would just make a huge impact on the team. It would kill me to see him go to Denver. I would be very unhappy.

 

[FUBAR]

Booth Newspapers reports the Lions would prefer to trade DT Shaun Rogers out of the NFC.

A source tells beat writer Tom Kowalski that two AFC clubs, both in the same division, have emerged as the "frontrunners" to acquire Rogers. We suspect the teams are the Raiders and the Broncos.

I am guessing a 4th round pick is the price. And Rogers may have his faults, but I like his chances better than any DT that'll go in the 4th this year.

Which of course means the Chiefs walk away with him. Allen, Hali, Rogers and ? would make a heckuva DL.

I'm sure Rogers isn't enough to move from 1.15 to 1.05, but a 4th round pick seems fair, 3rd could work to keep him away from Denver and Oakland too.

 

[RBM]

So stupid. This is really a complete embarrasment of an organization. I will kill that Calvin Johnson pick til the cows come home, and now they are trading possibly the best player on your awful defense.

 

[Routilla]

So stupid. This is really a complete embarrasment of an organization. I will kill that Calvin Johnson pick til the cows come home, and now they are trading possibly the best player on your awful defense.

Matt Millen is a genius.

 

[trader jake]

Millen should take the blame for a lot of what's gone wrong in Detroit, but I don't think he's been bad with his draft picks. Say what you want about how they turned out, but BMW was by all accounts a steal where he was drafted, and everyone thought Charles Rogers was a good pick at that spot. Roy Williams has worked out, and Ernie Sims has proven the critics wrong. Kevin Jones was also a strong pick, and Cory Redding has been pretty decent. Johnson, whatever happens to him, was a fine pick.Cody, Bailey and Lehman didn't work out, and have suffered injuries (like Bullocks). All were talented guys, though, and praised at the time of the draft. I think the blame for a lot of the failures of those picks have to fall on the coaching staff(s) and not the GM. He only buys the groceries, it's not his fault if the chef overcooks 'em.

Really? Put down the bottle Chase. He's like a coach who has some ability with X's and O's but can't lead a group of men to save his life.Matt Millen is just not a good GM. He has a decent football mind and is perfectly suited to be a talking head on TV but he's a nightmare as a GM. Matt Millen will go down as one of the biggest failures at that profession in NFL history. He's had numerous top 10 picks and he didn't completely screw up a few of them? That's not a convincing argument my friend.

I never said Millen was a good GM, and actually implied that he's a pretty bad GM. Saying Millen is going to mess up his next group of draft picks, however, is a pretty tenuous argument IMO. Millen's been a bad enough GM on his own that I don't see a need to exaggerate his sucktitude.

Gotcha, for a second I thought you banged your head Chase.However, I don't believe that even the draft argument against Millen is tenuous. I can only think of one draft day performance where he really showed what being a quality GM means. One example where he maneuvered, acquired some value, and yet got a player that produced: the trade down with the Browns where Cleveland gave up a 2nd and the Lions dropped back a single spot (from 6 to 7) and still got Roy Williams...the top rated player on their board. That trade was made by the Butch Davis staff in Cleveland and he had to make a move (even if it was a low percentage/value one) in order to save his job. So even that positive deal comes with an asterisk.Basically, I don't think you can exaggerate the suckitude of a GM who has a team record of 31-81 (.277) under his management. The Lions record the year before he took over? 9-7. His poor track record has nothing to do with exaggerating...he really has been that inept.If he trades Shaun Rogers for a second day pick he'll just give another example of why he just doesn't have what it takes to run an NFL team. Rogers value might be low in exchange for a pick, so the Lions would be better served by exchanging their problem player for another teams and attempt to maximize the talent. That has a better chance of success that keeping Rogers or trading him for a crap pick just because a move must be made. We'll see how Millen handles it.

 

[Cookiemonster]

If a 4th, or even 3rd is the price, I'd be happy as a Raider fan. Pair him w/ Dorsey/Ellis and that D makes a significant improvement. Maybe that would even free them up to take J.Long.

 

[massraider]

Booth Newspapers reports the Lions would prefer to trade DT Shaun Rogers out of the NFC.

A source tells beat writer Tom Kowalski that two AFC clubs, both in the same division, have emerged as the "frontrunners" to acquire Rogers. We suspect the teams are the Raiders and the Broncos.

I am guessing a 4th round pick is the price. And Rogers may have his faults, but I like his chances better than any DT that'll go in the 4th this year.

Which of course means the Chiefs walk away with him. Allen, Hali, Rogers and ? would make a heckuva DL.

I'm sure Rogers isn't enough to move from 1.15 to 1.05, but a 4th round pick seems fair, 3rd could work to keep him away from Denver and Oakland too.

have they given up on last year's rookies already?

 

[MSULions]

Rogers is a beast...when he feels like showing it. More often than not, he's been a liability, and it's been incredibly frustrating to watch the last couple of years. He could be the best DT in the NFL, but he chooses to half-### it week in and week out...only to have one great game when the heat gets turned up - then he disappears again. The Lions need consistency...so this isn't a huge surprise. Don't forget as well that he's one positive drug test away from a year suspension (got his 4gamer last season).

Having said that...a 4th round pick is a joke if that's all they can get. He's worth at least a 2nd...but probably a mid to late 1st.

 

[mad sweeney]

Rogers is a beast...when he feels like showing it. More often than not, he's been a liability, and it's been incredibly frustrating to watch the last couple of years. He could be the best DT in the NFL, but he chooses to half-### it week in and week out...only to have one great game when the heat gets turned up - then he disappears again. The Lions need consistency...so this isn't a huge surprise. Don't forget as well that he's one positive drug test away from a year suspension (got his 4gamer last season).

Having said that...a 4th round pick is a joke if that's all they can get. He's worth at least a 2nd...but probably a mid to late 1st.

First game of the 06 season he did what no one had ever done, owned Walter Jones. And hurt him too, to the point that Jones looked simply great instead of All-World for the rest of the season. Jones didn't miss a game and didn't disclose the injury until after the season, but until then I had rarely seen anyone beat Jones period, much less dominate him for more than a play or two in a game. I watched parts of several Lions games that season and never saw that same effort from Rogers again.

 

[Gary Davenport]

That would be a big move for that Denver defense given their weakness up the gut in 2007.

If a Rogers trade for some junk 2nd Day Pick becomes reality Millen will once again have outdone himself on the toolometer.

 

[Smizzy]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

As a Jets fan,I'd love to get Rogers.