Lions to trade Rogers within a week (1 Viewer)

[FUBAR]

Booth Newspapers reports the Lions would prefer to trade DT Shaun Rogers out of the NFC.

A source tells beat writer Tom Kowalski that two AFC clubs, both in the same division, have emerged as the "frontrunners" to acquire Rogers. We suspect the teams are the Raiders and the Broncos.

I am guessing a 4th round pick is the price. And Rogers may have his faults, but I like his chances better than any DT that'll go in the 4th this year.

Which of course means the Chiefs walk away with him. Allen, Hali, Rogers and ? would make a heckuva DL.

I'm sure Rogers isn't enough to move from 1.15 to 1.05, but a 4th round pick seems fair, 3rd could work to keep him away from Denver and Oakland too.

have they given up on last year's rookies already?

I don't think trading for a pro-bowl caliber DT who's relatively cheap means they're "giving up" on anyone. Especially when they'd need a rotation to keep him at 100%.

 

[FairWarning]

As a former player, you would think that Millen would realize the importance of line play. The Lions line play sucks on both sides right now.

 

[lionzroar1]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

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As a Lions fan, I feel that the ideal scenario is to trade for Vilma, if possible. The problem that I see is this:

Vilma is an undersized linebacker. Even great linebackers (ie Ray Lewis in his prime) need to have the big DT's to keep blockers off of them. If you get rid of Rogers, and bring in Vilma...it almost seems counter intuitive. You address the need at MLB, but create a need at DT.

Either way...I would rather have Vilma than Rogers. Vilma seems like he would fit into the "Marinelli player mold" alot better than a lackadasical Shaun Rogers.

 

[FUBAR]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

As a Lions fan, I feel that the ideal scenario is to trade for Vilma, if possible. The problem that I see is this:Vilma is an undersized linebacker. Even great linebackers (ie Ray Lewis in his prime) need to have the big DT's to keep blockers off of them. If you get rid of Rogers, and bring in Vilma...it almost seems counter intuitive. You address the need at MLB, but create a need at DT. Either way...I would rather have Vilma than Rogers. Vilma seems like he would fit into the "Marinelli player mold" alot better than a lackadasical Shaun Rogers.

If it's a simple swap, Lions could draft Balmer - but he seems an underperformer too. I doubt it's possible, but if the Lions can find a way to give 1.15, Rogers + something for 1.06 and Vilma and draft Ellis - their D would look much improved.

 

[LBH]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

As a Lions fan, I feel that the ideal scenario is to trade for Vilma, if possible. The problem that I see is this:Vilma is an undersized linebacker. Even great linebackers (ie Ray Lewis in his prime) need to have the big DT's to keep blockers off of them. If you get rid of Rogers, and bring in Vilma...it almost seems counter intuitive. You address the need at MLB, but create a need at DT.

Either way...I would rather have Vilma than Rogers. Vilma seems like he would fit into the "Marinelli player mold" alot better than a lackadasical Shaun Rogers.

If it's a simple swap, Lions could draft Balmer - but he seems an underperformer too. I doubt it's possible, but if the Lions can find a way to give 1.15, Rogers + something for 1.06 and Vilma and draft Ellis - their D would look much improved.

Coach Rod Marinelli acknowledged at the NFL Combine that the Lions have interest in Jonathan Vilma.

The Jets have given Vilma, 25, permission to seek a trade. "He's a heck of a player," Marinelli said. Vilma would likely work well as a middle linebacker in Marinell's Tampa 2 scheme.Source: Detroit News

 

[Gottabesweet]

I think it's the Jets and Bills.

Jauron has worked with Rogers before. The Bills need a run stuffing DT

 

[Spartans Rule]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

As a Lions fan, I feel that the ideal scenario is to trade for Vilma, if possible. The problem that I see is this:Vilma is an undersized linebacker. Even great linebackers (ie Ray Lewis in his prime) need to have the big DT's to keep blockers off of them. If you get rid of Rogers, and bring in Vilma...it almost seems counter intuitive. You address the need at MLB, but create a need at DT. Either way...I would rather have Vilma than Rogers. Vilma seems like he would fit into the "Marinelli player mold" alot better than a lackadasical Shaun Rogers.

Problem is that if the Lions don't get Vilma for Rogers, they're probably going to end up with a lesser-value draft choice for him instead, and then they'll have two gaping holes. Getting a proven stud for him would be a major victory given the alternative.

 

[Spartans Rule]

As a former player, you would think that Millen would realize the importance of line play. The Lions line play sucks on both sides right now.

Well a big reason the D-Line sucks right now is that Rogers has underperformed for two straight years. Redding and White are both pretty good, if Rogers had played well at all recently the DL wouldn't be a problem.

 

[Chadstroma]

Anybody think a rodgers for Vilma swap makes a lot of sense?

As a Lions fan, I feel that the ideal scenario is to trade for Vilma, if possible. The problem that I see is this:Vilma is an undersized linebacker. Even great linebackers (ie Ray Lewis in his prime) need to have the big DT's to keep blockers off of them. If you get rid of Rogers, and bring in Vilma...it almost seems counter intuitive. You address the need at MLB, but create a need at DT. Either way...I would rather have Vilma than Rogers. Vilma seems like he would fit into the "Marinelli player mold" alot better than a lackadasical Shaun Rogers.

Problem is that if the Lions don't get Vilma for Rogers, they're probably going to end up with a lesser-value draft choice for him instead, and then they'll have two gaping holes. Getting a proven stud for him would be a major victory given the alternative.

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

 

[hutchins929]

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

Rogers for Vilma straight up is a great trade for the Lions and it would be worth the risk.

 

[DaDaDaDawg]

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

Rogers for Vilma straight up is a great trade for the Lions and it would be worth the risk.

I'll say it again...Browns QB D. Anderson for Rogers and maybe a 4th/5th round pick sounds like an ideal trade scenario.Detroit gets set at QB for years to come with a 24 year old pro-bowl QB while Cleveland strengthens its DL, argueably its most glaring weakness and makes way for the Brady Quinn era to begin Am I the only one that thinks this trade makes perfect sense for both teams involved?

 

[yellowdog]

Rogers and a 4th or 5th wouldn't get it done for D. Anderson. I think it would take at least a 2nd along with Rogers to get that done.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Why is Detroit ridding themselves of him?

They think he is lazy and takes too many plays off.

He's still the best player on this team. Some would argue Roy Williams but Shaun Rogers is a beast. The Lions are such a joke franchise. They need better players and now they are trading away their best. And somehow I'm guessing they will squander whatever picks they get in return for Rogers. If you got a guy like Millen running the show, you don't want him to have more draft picks because he will waste them. You want him to go after proven vets and free agents and establish a core to build around on defense. Shaun Rogers is part of that core. If he's lazy, then half the NFL is lazy. The guy dominates.

Millen should take the blame for a lot of what's gone wrong in Detroit, but I don't think he's been bad with his draft picks. Say what you want about how they turned out, but BMW was by all accounts a steal where he was drafted, and everyone thought Charles Rogers was a good pick at that spot. Roy Williams has worked out, and Ernie Sims has proven the critics wrong. Kevin Jones was also a strong pick, and Cory Redding has been pretty decent. Johnson, whatever happens to him, was a fine pick.Cody, Bailey and Lehman didn't work out, and have suffered injuries (like Bullocks). All were talented guys, though, and praised at the time of the draft. I think the blame for a lot of the failures of those picks have to fall on the coaching staff(s) and not the GM. He only buys the groceries, it's not his fault if the chef overcooks 'em.

Well, I'm not going to agree with you. I agree in general, people tend to jump on the pile when blaming but Millen has been bad. I don't agree with many of the picks he's made because even though others may have also said Charles Rodgers or Michael Williams were solid picks....it was NOT what the Lions needed to rebuild.The Lions have no defense and never have. They are always poor, always. If Millen had anything to stand on, it was that he was a defensive guy, and a tough guy. You would have thought that he would try to impose that kind of will/playing style on this team. Instead, he chose to draft for the most part, high profile Wr's and ignore the defense.Tell me this, after drafting all of those young Wr's....what was the plan in terms of who was/is supposed to throw them the ball? Jon Kitna who's going on like 40 years old?They now fired Martz and Marinelli is now going with a more traditional offense, which is to run the ball. Roy Williams is now being rumored for trade.I don't want to jump on the pile, but this team lacks any vision. It's not a team that appears to be moving in the right direction and seems to me in a worse position right now than they were 2 to 3 years ago, which is a very scary thought.I see no RB for the future, I see no QB for the future, I see a poor offensive line and I see a defense that is easily in the bottom 1/3 in the NFL if not the bottom 3.One person is never to blame in a team sport but Millen is definately to blame. He is bad.

 

[Max Power]

Marinelli: Lions won't trade Williams

Posted: Monday February 25, 2008 06:42AM ET

Coach Rod Marinelli is keeping an eye on the Lions veterans while scouting talent for the upcoming draft. The offseason involves speculation and manipulation of the roster, and the main focus has been on Jon Kitna, Roy Williams and Shaun Rogers. Marinelli has no plans to trade Williams, despite speculation. Marinelli envisions Williams and Calvin Johnson, the Lions' first-round draft pick last year, as a dominating receiving tandem. Marinelli was forceful in answering when asked if Williams will be traded. "No," Marinelli said. "I know the rumors that are out. Those two guys together, I want to see those guys where they can really impact a game. They are special."

 

[Bob Henry]

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

Rogers for Vilma straight up is a great trade for the Lions and it would be worth the risk.

I'll say it again...Browns QB D. Anderson for Rogers and maybe a 4th/5th round pick sounds like an ideal trade scenario.Detroit gets set at QB for years to come with a 24 year old pro-bowl QB while Cleveland strengthens its DL, argueably its most glaring weakness and makes way for the Brady Quinn era to begin Am I the only one that thinks this trade makes perfect sense for both teams involved?

I like what Derek Anderson did last year, but he leaves me with a big question mark hovering over his long-term value. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Scott Mitchell, but I'm not sure he's a bonafide Pro Bowl QB either. I think he benefited from great talent around him and he made some nice throws and showed good leadership. He is what Cleveland needed badly. On the down side, he forces throws and didn't always make great decisions when the heat was turned up later in the year. The book has yet to be written on Anderson. I don't know if it's in the Lions best interest to deal for Anderson. It all depends on how the staff and front office feel about Stanton being able to take over the reins from Kitna this year or next year. Ultimately, it's too darn bad that Rogers is being thrown around as trade bait. He's inconsistent and doesn't always give top effort, but his talent and skill is undeniable. As a Lions fan, I am concerned the Lions will move him for less than what they need in return and ultimately they'll be making a move that doesn't make the team better, but more vulnerable to more poor decisions on draft day and free agency. We'll see.

 

[thatguythere]

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

Rogers for Vilma straight up is a great trade for the Lions and it would be worth the risk.

I'll say it again...Browns QB D. Anderson for Rogers and maybe a 4th/5th round pick sounds like an ideal trade scenario.Detroit gets set at QB for years to come with a 24 year old pro-bowl QB while Cleveland strengthens its DL, argueably its most glaring weakness and makes way for the Brady Quinn era to begin Am I the only one that thinks this trade makes perfect sense for both teams involved?

I like what Derek Anderson did last year, but he leaves me with a big question mark hovering over his long-term value. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Scott Mitchell, but I'm not sure he's a bonafide Pro Bowl QB either. I think he benefited from great talent around him and he made some nice throws and showed good leadership. He is what Cleveland needed badly. On the down side, he forces throws and didn't always make great decisions when the heat was turned up later in the year. The book has yet to be written on Anderson. I don't know if it's in the Lions best interest to deal for Anderson. It all depends on how the staff and front office feel about Stanton being able to take over the reins from Kitna this year or next year. Ultimately, it's too darn bad that Rogers is being thrown around as trade bait. He's inconsistent and doesn't always give top effort, but his talent and skill is undeniable. As a Lions fan, I am concerned the Lions will move him for less than what they need in return and ultimately they'll be making a move that doesn't make the team better, but more vulnerable to more poor decisions on draft day and free agency. We'll see.

The Lions are notorious for waiting too long to try to deal players who obviously don't want to, can't, or will not play in Detroit. They are trying to get something for Rogers before he is worth nothing. Personally I think they do need to get rid of him, yeah he may be talented but if your not on the field what is the difference. Marinelli has been weeding out the players that aren't going to throw it all out there on the field. Rogers is overweight, underconditioned, and most likely doesn't want to play in Detroit anymore. Hopefully we will get some value and he can move on as well as the Lions. As for the guy who said Millen hasn't drafted defense...... Since 2001Shaun Rogers Round 2Chris Cash 6John Taylor 4Andre Goodman 3Kalimba Edwards 2BLue Adams 7James Davis 5Terrence Holt 5Cory Redding 3Boss Bailey 2ALex Lewis 5Keith Smith 3Teddy Lehman 2Jonathan Goodard 6Bill Swancutt 6Stanley Wilson 3Shaun Cody 2Anthony Cannon 7Dee McCann 6Daniel Bullocks 2Ernie Sims 1Ramzee Robinson 7Johnny Baldwin 5AJ Davis 4Gerald Alexander 2Ikaika Alama-Francis 29 players in the first or second round in 7 years...Yep he's drafted defensive players but not very good ones overall.Now they just released Fernando Bryant instead of paying him 4 mill....To be honest there is probably only 1 or 2 players that I would even care about if they were traded, cut, or let go.

 

[g5jamz]

as a Panthers homer...I'd love to see this.

Kris Jenkins/Keary Colbert

for

Rogers/ Roy Williams...but might settle for McDonald

 

[flufhed]

Titans' d-line coach usually has very good luck with guys like this, i.e. high talent guys that are lazy, etc. Wouldn't mind seeing him in Tennessee for the right price.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

Marinelli: Lions won't trade WilliamsPosted: Monday February 25, 2008 06:42AM ETCoach Rod Marinelli is keeping an eye on the Lions veterans while scouting talent for the upcoming draft. The offseason involves speculation and manipulation of the roster, and the main focus has been on Jon Kitna, Roy Williams and Shaun Rogers. Marinelli has no plans to trade Williams, despite speculation. Marinelli envisions Williams and Calvin Johnson, the Lions' first-round draft pick last year, as a dominating receiving tandem. Marinelli was forceful in answering when asked if Williams will be traded. "No," Marinelli said. "I know the rumors that are out. Those two guys together, I want to see those guys where they can really impact a game. They are special."

And to me this is also a mistake. Why wouldn't he consider an offer? He wouldn't take two No 1's for Roy Williams if it were offered? Just like my fantasy football team, everybody is always on the table in terms of trading. You might have to give up everything you have to do it but I'm always open minded.I don't know as much as a NFL coach, but I often wonder what people really know about what it takes to win in the NFL. Wide Receivers for the most part rarely dictate who wins a SB.Randy Moss, probably the best of this era has never won one. Terell Owens, probably the 2nd best of our era has never won one. Sure, it's fun to have a good offense and I don't know the exact recipe in getting a SB but I do know I'd be opened minded in terms of all possibilities.When I look at the Detroit Lions, I don't see anyone on that team that couldn't be traded for the right price.

 

[Spartans Rule]

I like what Derek Anderson did last year, but he leaves me with a big question mark hovering over his long-term value. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Scott Mitchell, but I'm not sure he's a bonafide Pro Bowl QB either. I think he benefited from great talent around him and he made some nice throws and showed good leadership. He is what Cleveland needed badly. On the down side, he forces throws and didn't always make great decisions when the heat was turned up later in the year. The book has yet to be written on Anderson. I don't know if it's in the Lions best interest to deal for Anderson. It all depends on how the staff and front office feel about Stanton being able to take over the reins from Kitna this year or next year.

I agree with this. Derek Anderson had a nice year with a stud LT, WR and TE and a pretty good RB at his disposal, but he also still threw 19 INTs. I don't think you can just assume he's going to be great at this point. I also think that Kitna is in somewhat of the opposite situation where he hasn't had much protection or a decent running game. His coaches and teammates are pretty happy with his play and he's an important leadership figure, which the Lions desperately need more of.And a lot of people wrote Stanton off because he got injured in a year where he likely wasn't going to play anyway. He's still going to get a shot to be the QB of the future.Of all the needs Detroit has right now, QB isn't very high on the list. They need to fix the secondary, the linebackers, the O-line and probably running back depending on Jones' health. And if they trade Rogers, add D-line as well.

 

[Iwannabeacowboybaby!]

I like what Derek Anderson did last year, but he leaves me with a big question mark hovering over his long-term value. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Scott Mitchell, but I'm not sure he's a bonafide Pro Bowl QB either. I think he benefited from great talent around him and he made some nice throws and showed good leadership. He is what Cleveland needed badly. On the down side, he forces throws and didn't always make great decisions when the heat was turned up later in the year. The book has yet to be written on Anderson. I don't know if it's in the Lions best interest to deal for Anderson. It all depends on how the staff and front office feel about Stanton being able to take over the reins from Kitna this year or next year.

I agree with this. Derek Anderson had a nice year with a stud LT, WR and TE and a pretty good RB at his disposal, but he also still threw 19 INTs. I don't think you can just assume he's going to be great at this point. I also think that Kitna is in somewhat of the opposite situation where he hasn't had much protection or a decent running game. His coaches and teammates are pretty happy with his play and he's an important leadership figure, which the Lions desperately need more of.And a lot of people wrote Stanton off because he got injured in a year where he likely wasn't going to play anyway. He's still going to get a shot to be the QB of the future.Of all the needs Detroit has right now, QB isn't very high on the list. They need to fix the secondary, the linebackers, the O-line and probably running back depending on Jones' health. And if they trade Rogers, add D-line as well.

I agree and disagree, Spartan. I guess you can chalk it up that QB isn't high on the list NOW because let's be honest, the Lions aren't going to win anything right now.But in general, we also know Kitna realisitcally has a year or two left as a starter. The is not going to be enough time for the Lions to win anything so basically, the QB position is needed spot to fill. That is a HUGE hole.If I'm GM of the Lions and you're trying to put together a winning team.....wouldn't you find it hard when you're doing so without the future QB of the team. I know you mention Stanton.......I agree he wasn't going to play anyway, but I thought it was a horrible draft choice from the beginning. I hope I'm wrong, I really do but I thought it was a waste of a 2nd round pick the day they made the pick and him getting about zero practice in his rookie season didn't do anything for me to change my mind. I've also been wrong before, so we'll see.The major difference between Kitna and Anderson is age. The Lions have no QB for the future. If you can build a team and all of a sudden the last piece of the puzzle is a QB, then do it. I would just find that hard to do because of how important the QB position is to play and how often he handles the ball.

 

[DaDaDaDawg]

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

Rogers for Vilma straight up is a great trade for the Lions and it would be worth the risk.

I'll say it again...Browns QB D. Anderson for Rogers and maybe a 4th/5th round pick sounds like an ideal trade scenario.Detroit gets set at QB for years to come with a 24 year old pro-bowl QB while Cleveland strengthens its DL, argueably its most glaring weakness and makes way for the Brady Quinn era to begin Am I the only one that thinks this trade makes perfect sense for both teams involved?

I like what Derek Anderson did last year, but he leaves me with a big question mark hovering over his long-term value. I'm not saying he's the second coming of Scott Mitchell, but I'm not sure he's a bonafide Pro Bowl QB either. I think he benefited from great talent around him and he made some nice throws and showed good leadership. He is what Cleveland needed badly. On the down side, he forces throws and didn't always make great decisions when the heat was turned up later in the year. The book has yet to be written on Anderson. I don't know if it's in the Lions best interest to deal for Anderson. It all depends on how the staff and front office feel about Stanton being able to take over the reins from Kitna this year or next year. Ultimately, it's too darn bad that Rogers is being thrown around as trade bait. He's inconsistent and doesn't always give top effort, but his talent and skill is undeniable. As a Lions fan, I am concerned the Lions will move him for less than what they need in return and ultimately they'll be making a move that doesn't make the team better, but more vulnerable to more poor decisions on draft day and free agency. We'll see.

I agree that Anderson did benefit from great talent around him in Cleveland and he did regress a bit with his decision making toward the end of the year. But lets not forget that the guy is only 24 years old and played the way he did practically as a rookie. Also, its not as if Detroit is devoid of offensive talent either...they'd have a young up and coming QB that can get the ball down the field to players like CJ and ROY. Mistakes are to be expected from young QBs in their first year starting. Anderson's poise in the pocket, leadership qualities and strong arm add up to some very nice potential in the NFL but sure, he's got some learning to do. Obviously, however, the Browns can't afford to keep two young, talented QBs on their roster for long. Hence the need to leverage Anderson's potential for draft picks or young DL help right now. Shaun Rogers fits the bill, IMO, and Detroit could use a young QB for the future...seems to make too much sense.

 

[hutchins929]

Best Pick by Millen, BY FAR, is E. Simms! To early to tell about Calvin Johnson but I think that, that pick will end up very good too.

 

[noneother]

That would be a big move for that Denver defense given their weakness up the gut in 2007.

If a Rogers trade for some junk 2nd Day Pick becomes reality Millen will once again have outdone himself on the toolometer.

You gotta think at some point Detroit figures out that Denver has found their sucker? No?

 

[Max Power]

The Rocky Mountain News reports that the Lions are close to agreeing to trade DT Shaun Rogers to Denver. A deal couldn't be official until Friday.

The terms are unclear, but this is typical high-risk, high-reward Mike Shanahan move. We think it's worth it. Rogers' effort and conditioning are suspect, but he's a Pro Bowl quality defensive tackle in his prime. Denver is desperate for some help upfront and Rogers is a quick fix. Its uncertain if he'll get new money as part of the deal. Feb. 25 - 6:15 pm et

 

[Max Power]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.

Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

 

[Bob Henry]

Best Pick by Millen Marinelli, BY FAR, is E. Simms! To early to tell about Calvin Johnson but I think that, that pick will end up very good too.

Fixed, but I agree with your general point regarding Sims.

 

[massraider]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.My bad, he is signed through 2009.

 

[Chadstroma]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.My bad, he is signed through 2009.

Rogers is a force. Perhaps getting traded to a new team will motivate the guy? Just think what a motivated Rogers would do for the Raider D. Perhaps I am dreaming but still... just think of how that D would just be a killer.

 

[AnonymousBob]

SF is rumored to be interested in nearly every big FA available so why aren't they in the Rogers lottery?

 

[thatguy]

Would love to see him land in Denver.

Ask and ye shall receive... maybe. :knocks on wood, crosses fingers:

 

[massraider]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.My bad, he is signed through 2009.

Rogers is a force. Perhaps getting traded to a new team will motivate the guy? Just think what a motivated Rogers would do for the Raider D. Perhaps I am dreaming but still... just think of how that D would just be a killer.

I just see more potential problems getting Rogers motivated in Oakland than Robertson. Don't get me wrong, I want Rogers. But not for our 2nd round pick.

 

[Chadstroma]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.My bad, he is signed through 2009.

Rogers is a force. Perhaps getting traded to a new team will motivate the guy? Just think what a motivated Rogers would do for the Raider D. Perhaps I am dreaming but still... just think of how that D would just be a killer.

I just see more potential problems getting Rogers motivated in Oakland than Robertson. Don't get me wrong, I want Rogers. But not for our 2nd round pick.

I agree, a 2nd is too high. A 4th is worth it though, IMO.

 

[jurrassic]

Denver is also rumored to be in talks with Green Bay for Williams.

 

[jonessed]

I'm surprised SD isn't involved. Jamal is getting a bit long in the tooth and splitting time would lengthen his career. Plus Rogers gets his veteran presence to keep him moving forward.

 

[Reaper]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.

Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.

My bad, he is signed through 2009.

1) Is Rogers really Lazy??? Or is he just not a penetrator.... .My thoughts are on the 3-4 defense. I think sometimes without the numbers and penetration a player may seem lazy but, maybe he's a better fit for holding the fort in a 3-4?

2) Robertson has a knee condition that I think will always hold him back from his full potential but, the 4-3 defense should help a ton.... I just don't think he can be in the long term plans for the Jets - how do you give a guy like that a top DT contract like he'll want probably next year?

 

[Max Power]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.

Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.

My bad, he is signed through 2009.

1) Is Rogers really Lazy??? Or is he just not a penetrator.... .My thoughts are on the 3-4 defense. I think sometimes without the numbers and penetration a player may seem lazy but, maybe he's a better fit for holding the fort in a 3-4?

2) Robertson has a knee condition that I think will always hold him back from his full potential but, the 4-3 defense should help a ton.... I just don't think he can be in the long term plans for the Jets - how do you give a guy like that a top DT contract like he'll want probably next year?

Rogers is a big time penetrator. The guy makes about 10 amazing plays a year. He is just plain lazy. The only thing that saves his cause is that he plays for Detroit and many former Lions talk about how hard it is to stay motivated there.

 

[Reaper]

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.

Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.

My bad, he is signed through 2009.

1) Is Rogers really Lazy??? Or is he just not a penetrator.... .My thoughts are on the 3-4 defense. I think sometimes without the numbers and penetration a player may seem lazy but, maybe he's a better fit for holding the fort in a 3-4?

2) Robertson has a knee condition that I think will always hold him back from his full potential but, the 4-3 defense should help a ton.... I just don't think he can be in the long term plans for the Jets - how do you give a guy like that a top DT contract like he'll want probably next year?

Rogers is a big time penetrator. The guy makes about 10 amazing plays a year. He is just plain lazy. The only thing that saves his cause is that he plays for Detroit and many former Lions talk about how hard it is to stay motivated there.

Thanks!! So, then what's the feelings on him playing the 3-4 NT?

 

[Gottabesweet]

Really hoping Buffalo gives a 3rd

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

I'm surprised SD isn't involved. Jamal is getting a bit long in the tooth and splitting time would lengthen his career. Plus Rogers gets his veteran presence to keep him moving forward.

Rogers is more a 4-3 DT than a 3-4 NT. I wouldnt mind him coming to SD though

The Rocky Mountain News have backed off their report that Shaun Rogers should be a Denver Bronco by Friday.

Neither the Denver Post or NFL Network, usually leaders on Broncos news, put the report up. Now papers in both cities say that other teams continue to make trade pitches. The Lions are seeking a second or third-round pick as compensation. The Broncos could also pursue Dewayne Robertson. Feb. 26 - 9:29 am et

As a Radier fan, that desperately need a DT (or 3), I'd rather take Robertson. Especially if the Lions want a 2nd or 3rd.Robertson is only available because he is not a NG, which is what the Jets need. He doesn't have Rogers baggage. Last year of his deal, which hurts his trade value, however.

My bad, he is signed through 2009.

1) Is Rogers really Lazy??? Or is he just not a penetrator.... .My thoughts are on the 3-4 defense. I think sometimes without the numbers and penetration a player may seem lazy but, maybe he's a better fit for holding the fort in a 3-4?

2) Robertson has a knee condition that I think will always hold him back from his full potential but, the 4-3 defense should help a ton.... I just don't think he can be in the long term plans for the Jets - how do you give a guy like that a top DT contract like he'll want probably next year?

Rogers is very very lazy.

 

[KoolKat]

Sounds a bit like Gerard Warren #2. Hopefully the Broncs will have a better result this time.

 

[Max Power]

Lions | Team may keep Rogers on roster

Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:14:03 -0800

Tom Kowalski, of MLive.com, reports a source close to the Detroit Lions said the Lions will continue to negotiate possible trades for DL Shaun Rogers until Friday, Feb. 29, which is the first official day a trade can be made. The team is looking for at least a second-round or a third-round draft pick as compensation for Rogers. Rogers is due a $1 million roster bonus and the team plans to pay that bonus whether trade talks are lingering or not and head coach Rod Marinelli said numerous times that the team will not release Rogers. If the team cannot trade him within the next few weeks they may wait until the 2008 NFL Draft to see if interest for Rogers is still high. The team would hold onto Rogers into training camp if no trades are made.

 

[DaDaDaDawg]

This is assuming that Vilma is back to 100% health.

Rogers for Vilma straight up is a great trade for the Lions and it would be worth the risk.

I'll say it again...Browns QB D. Anderson for Rogers and maybe a 4th/5th round pick sounds like an ideal trade scenario.Detroit gets set at QB for years to come with a 24 year old pro-bowl QB while Cleveland strengthens its DL, argueably its most glaring weakness and makes way for the Brady Quinn era to begin Am I the only one that thinks this trade makes perfect sense for both teams involved?

BUMP!Okay, so it was Bodden instead of Anderson...I'm still lovin' it

 

[hutchins929]

What suprises the hell out of me is the Lions could have done worse. Not the greatest trade but of course that doesn't suprise me. It's the fact that they got a starting corner and a third round pick... Not bad!

 

[Spartans Rule]

What suprises the hell out of me is the Lions could have done worse. Not the greatest trade but of course that doesn't suprise me. It's the fact that they got a starting corner and a third round pick... Not bad!

They tried to do worse But all's well that ends well, I guess.

 

[Bob Henry]

What suprises the hell out of me is the Lions could have done worse. Not the greatest trade but of course that doesn't suprise me. It's the fact that they got a starting corner and a third round pick... Not bad!

I agree. Getting Bodden instead of a 5th was a coup. There's almost no chance that Millen would've fished a player of that quality out of the 5th round. He would've drafted some 5' 7" corner who played nickel and was projected to be a UDFA.