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I am thinking it would benefit us all to debate and see who is the qbs that are worth dropping for tebow this week I would say grossman, flacco, mccoy, sanchez, bradford, kolb are all droppable as far as #2 qbs go
I agree with all that you listed.I am thinking it would benefit us all to debate and see who is the qbs that are worth dropping for tebow this week I would say grossman, flacco, mccoy, sanchez, bradford, kolb are all droppable as far as #2 qbs go
I'd say a few more than 9. Here's the list of guys I definitely wouldn't drop for him, in two unordered tiers. The only caveat being if my two QBs were both in the second group, I'd probably try to trade one of them away and pickup Tebow.RodgersAbout 9 guys I wouldn't drop for him.
But with almost a rushing TD per game, his value goes up significantly. I think he's higher than 15-20, even in 6 points per TD pass leaguesIn 6 point passing td leagues the list I'd drop for Tebow is much smaller. In that system I have him in that 15-20 QB range
Just to be clear, it's not "almost" a rushing TD per game. So far he has a rushing TD in all five games in which he has attempted a pass. And a passing TD in each of those games. Of course the pace could slow, but QB 15-20 in 6 point TD scoring is typically in the 16-17 points per game range, I don't see how that can be considered anything but Tebow's basement. I mean he just scored more than that with 10 pass attempts and 6 rushing attempts.But with almost a rushing TD per game, his value goes up significantly. I think he's higher than 15-20, even in 6 points per TD pass leaguesIn 6 point passing td leagues the list I'd drop for Tebow is much smaller. In that system I have him in that 15-20 QB range
Good list. I might add Ryan to the second tier and probably drop Hasselebeck, but I agree for the most part.I'd say a few more than 9. Here's the list of guys I definitely wouldn't drop for him, in two unordered tiers. The only caveat being if my two QBs were both in the second group, I'd probably try to trade one of them away and pickup Tebow.RodgersAbout 9 guys I wouldn't drop for him.
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Stafford
Vick
Cam
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Romo
Ben
Hasselbeck
Manning
Fitzpatrick
Schaub
did this.I'm considering dropping Freeman for him.
Same.Dropped Kolb for Tebow, didn't have much hesitation there.
How is Matt Ryan not on anyone's list? He's the epitome of QB busts...
Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Tough to drop him this week since he is facing GB and Tebow is on a bye (2qb league) but it's a good long-haul play. Tebow has the bye to practice with the first team, and he has to know this is his last shot. If he screws this up I doubt anyone would ever consider him a starting QB again.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
I believe you are making a mistake in coorelating NFL talent with fantasy production. Bradford, Sanchez, and McCoy aren't even comparable in production to Tebow in fantasy leagues. Ryan and Freeman *might* be in the ballpark, but I'd still rank them fairly significantly below Tebow.This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
I believe you are making a mistake in coorelating NFL talent with fantasy production. Bradford, Sanchez, and McCoy aren't even comparable in production to Tebow in fantasy leagues. Ryan and Freeman *might* be in the ballpark, but I'd still rank them fairly significantly below Tebow.This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
Already did this in two leagues. Freeman's a back-up in both, anyhow -- felt OK gambling on Tebow's fantasy upside.I'm considering dropping Freeman for him.
Why no love for Hasselback? #8 QB to date in our format. Do you think he'll have that much of a drop off that you wouldn't even keep him as QB #2 on your roster over Tebow? Or do you think Tebow will be borderline #1 QB for a fantasy team?Good list. I might add Ryan to the second tier and probably drop Hasselebeck, but I agree for the most part.I'd say a few more than 9. Here's the list of guys I definitely wouldn't drop for him, in two unordered tiers. The only caveat being if my two QBs were both in the second group, I'd probably try to trade one of them away and pickup Tebow.RodgersAbout 9 guys I wouldn't drop for him.
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Stafford
Vick
Cam
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Romo
Ben
Hasselbeck
Manning
Fitzpatrick
Schaub
I'll echo this. Ryan is a nice name on paper. I have him as backup to Stafford in one of my leagues. Scratch that, had him as backup.Dropped him for Tebow this morning.For perspective, Ryan was QB21 in our league's scoring, behind such fantasy gods as Jason CampbellAlex SmithMark SanchezColt McCoyTarvaris Jacksonand speaking of total points, he is barely ahead of Andy Dalton, Joe Flacco, Josh Freeman, Kyle Orton, and Kevin Kolb.It's a calculated gamble, but I'm just not seeing irreplaceable numbers out of Ryan. Time to accept he's not a great fantasy QB and move on.I believe you are making a mistake in coorelating NFL talent with fantasy production. Bradford, Sanchez, and McCoy aren't even comparable in production to Tebow in fantasy leagues. Ryan and Freeman *might* be in the ballpark, but I'd still rank them fairly significantly below Tebow.This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
I'm not making that mistake. I'm talking strictly about fantasy potential. No question Bradford's been bad, but I do see potential there. Sanchez and McCoy are QB15 and QB16 in my league, respectively. Both of those guys have been rock-solid QB2 options so far. Ryan is QB18 and has been a disappointment but there's no denying his potential in my opinion. Could Tebow outperform all of them? Sure, it's possible and maybe even likely. But that isn't my point. What I'm saying is that if you miss out on Tebow, there could be a good chance you still get value on the WW next week depending on who's been dropped. I think that's a nice position to be in if you don't want to go All-In on Tebow this week.I believe you are making a mistake in coorelating NFL talent with fantasy production. Bradford, Sanchez, and McCoy aren't even comparable in production to Tebow in fantasy leagues. Ryan and Freeman *might* be in the ballpark, but I'd still rank them fairly significantly below Tebow.This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
See you an I have a different way of looking at it. Generally, I agree with what you're saying, but we're talking about backup fantasy QB's here (at least we are if you have any illusions of making the playoffs in your league). You're saying you'd rather have a solid, if unspectacular mid QB2. With my depth, I'm shooting for the moon. If Tebow has a 20% chance of being a QB1, a 40% chance of mediocrity and a 40% chance of busting I'll take that all day as my QB2 over a guy like Sanchez/McCoy who have already demonstrated it's very likely that where they're at is roughly where they're staying.'packersfan said:I'm not making that mistake. I'm talking strictly about fantasy potential. No question Bradford's been bad, but I do see potential there. Sanchez and McCoy are QB15 and QB16 in my league, respectively. Both of those guys have been rock-solid QB2 options so far. Ryan is QB18 and has been a disappointment but there's no denying his potential in my opinion. Could Tebow outperform all of them? Sure, it's possible and maybe even likely. But that isn't my point. What I'm saying is that if you miss out on Tebow, there could be a good chance you still get value on the WW next week depending on who's been dropped. I think that's a nice position to be in if you don't want to go All-In on Tebow this week.'jonboltz said:I believe you are making a mistake in coorelating NFL talent with fantasy production. Bradford, Sanchez, and McCoy aren't even comparable in production to Tebow in fantasy leagues. Ryan and Freeman *might* be in the ballpark, but I'd still rank them fairly significantly below Tebow.This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
See you an I have a different way of looking at it. Generally, I agree with what you're saying, but we're talking about backup fantasy QB's here (at least we are if you have any illusions of making the playoffs in your league). You're saying you'd rather have a solid, if unspectacular mid QB2. With my depth, I'm shooting for the moon. If Tebow has a 20% chance of being a QB1, a 40% chance of mediocrity and a 40% chance of busting I'll take that all day as my QB2 over a guy like Sanchez/McCoy who have already demonstrated it's very likely that where they're at is roughly where they're staying.'packersfan said:I'm not making that mistake. I'm talking strictly about fantasy potential. No question Bradford's been bad, but I do see potential there. Sanchez and McCoy are QB15 and QB16 in my league, respectively. Both of those guys have been rock-solid QB2 options so far. Ryan is QB18 and has been a disappointment but there's no denying his potential in my opinion. Could Tebow outperform all of them? Sure, it's possible and maybe even likely. But that isn't my point. What I'm saying is that if you miss out on Tebow, there could be a good chance you still get value on the WW next week depending on who's been dropped. I think that's a nice position to be in if you don't want to go All-In on Tebow this week.'jonboltz said:I believe you are making a mistake in coorelating NFL talent with fantasy production. Bradford, Sanchez, and McCoy aren't even comparable in production to Tebow in fantasy leagues. Ryan and Freeman *might* be in the ballpark, but I'd still rank them fairly significantly below Tebow.This is a good example of what I posted earlier. I agree Bradford hasn't been very good and the Rams look like a mess in the passing game but I think Bradford is a very talented QB, there's certainly potential there and maybe getting Clayton back in a week or two helps. I'm going after Tebow in the league where I have Orton as my QB2 but I may not be real aggressive with my bid because if I don't get him that likely means a QB I like was dropped and will be available next week. Like Bradford. I'd be very happy with Bradford as a consolation prize next week if I didn't get Tebow this week. Same with guys like Sanchez or McCoy (both of whom have been productive in my league scoring) and even Freeman (who's been bad but still has talent in my opinion). I'd be absolutely giddy if someone dropped Ryan in my league for Tebow but there's no way I see that happening.Also doing this. Bradford has been horrid and St Louis looks like a complete mess on every side of the ball. I think he's a good QB but he won't put it together this season.Dropping Bradford for him. Other Qb's are Stafford and Newton (2QB league) so I can take the risk.
The bolded. That, and I think as CJ comes back to form (or at least closer to it), the Titans will rely less on Hass and more on CJ. So I think Hass drops down into the mid teens in terms of QB production. I also still think Ryan's best games in 2011 are ahead of him. Hass is what he is (imho) - a solid QB2, but the QB1 upside lies with Tebow. I like both. Honestly, I was going to pick up Hass until this week's anouncement. I'll be adding Tebow for two reasons: 1) Higher upside 2) It's dynasty.'The Rook said:Why no love for Hasselback? #8 QB to date in our format. Do you think he'll have that much of a drop off that you wouldn't even keep him as QB #2 on your roster over Tebow? Or do you think Tebow will be borderline #1 QB for a fantasy team?Good list. I might add Ryan to the second tier and probably drop Hasselebeck, but I agree for the most part.I'd say a few more than 9. Here's the list of guys I definitely wouldn't drop for him, in two unordered tiers. The only caveat being if my two QBs were both in the second group, I'd probably try to trade one of them away and pickup Tebow.RodgersAbout 9 guys I wouldn't drop for him.
Brady
Brees
Rivers
Stafford
Vick
Cam
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Romo
Ben
Hasselbeck
Manning
Fitzpatrick
Schaub
No, that isn't what I'm saying.You're saying you'd rather have a solid, if unspectacular mid QB2.