Live Mock Draft (2 Round) (1 Viewer)

[milfordshane]

me too, sorry OZ

still early here 7:35AM

 

[-OZ-]

me too, sorry OZ

still early here 7:35AM

Completely understood, if it wasn't my team, I would have made the same assumption.The Jets may have made that assumption.

 

[-OZ-]

BTW - anyone want to carry this out to the full rookie draft?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

BTW - anyone want to carry this out to the full rookie draft?

I say we keep going until it fizzles out. Why not?

 

[blkgolf23]

Oakland's pick of Young:

Has as much potential as any player the draft has ever seen...Any team selecting him will be making a huge gamble on greatness with a very high risk / reward factor. Al who once took a kicker in the first round won't be able to pass on Young.

No more blackout in Oakland with Young as the QB!

 

[Kleck.]

I might be away for awhile so I PMed milfoshane Green Bay's 2nd round choices.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

I might be away for awhile so I PMed milfoshane Green Bay's 2nd round choices.

 

[milfordshane]

has anybody seen Evilgrin?, he's up

 

[Andy Dufresne]

has anybody seen Evilgrin?, he's up

 

[milfordshane]

we'll give him a few more minutes and the I'll make the pick

any ideas?

Jets 2.3

I'm thinking Maroney.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

we'll give him a few more minutes and the I'll make the pick

any ideas?

I'm thinking Maroney.

Marcus McNeill. Their o-line is a wreck and while Maroney is great value, they have to protect their #1 player, Leinart.

 

[Hobbes]

hello fellas since I see some of us are here

I'll post mine now

1.29 Colts -Thomas Howard (OLB, UTEP)

Exactly the kind of speed guy they love on D

Everyone thinks this is Maroney. The two biggest weaknesses to his game are receiving and pass protection. The two biggest needs in a RB for Indy are receiving and pass protection.

They will most likely trade down and look towards Addai in the second, but as there are no trade partners now

I'll go with Howard.

Nice pick...if the Bucs trade down they may be looking for him too...

 

[Wadsworth]

1.28 Jacksonville

Could use a TE, but so much has been invested in receivers lately, that I think other problems need addressing. Personally, I thought the run blocking was a huge disappointment last season. A real road grader like Jean-Gilles or Spencer would make sense. They can probably address that later if one of the Trojans fall. Winborn was probably brought in last season to replace Ayodele who never seemed to get it. Kenny Wright and Terry Cousins played corner opposite Mathis, and neither were very good, though they had their moments. Wright's gone via free agency, so they need to take advantage of the DBs in this draft. The top corners will go first so

Richard Marshall now and a safety next, seems like the best move for the Jags. Btw, if this seems early for Marshall, he's a really skyrocketing and rightly so. Not a more complete pure corner in the draft.

Winborn is gone. He came in for a 7th round pick and I guess the Jags didn't like what they saw enough to try and work out a contract. OLB is a big time need for the Jags at this point. If they don't get Arrington or Polley, I wouldn't even know who to pencil in as a starter. Jorge Cordova is suppose to finally be back from injury but who knows if he can play and if he can he might be a DE.I don't see CB as a big need since they have Mathis, just gave Brian Williams a whole lot of cash and Cousins did decently well at nickle last season.

As far a safety later, reports are that Darius is going to be fine, Grant is solid if not spectacular, and Sensabaugh had a very good rookie year and they seem big on his future. Nick Sorenson(back up safety and sepcial teams captain) is coming back from injury also, so they might well address safety at some point for insurance, but I wouldn't call it a need yet.

That said, Marshall still isn't a bad pick. Some might call it a reach at a position that Jags didn't have need for, but the more I see of that guy the more he looks like legit NFL CB. If you can get a CB at 28 that's never bad.

 

[milfordshane]

hello fellas since I see some of us are here

I'll post mine now

1.29 Colts -Thomas Howard (OLB, UTEP)

Exactly the kind of speed guy they love on D

Everyone thinks this is Maroney. The two biggest weaknesses to his game are receiving and pass protection. The two biggest needs in a RB for Indy are receiving and pass protection. 

They will most likely trade down and look towards Addai in the second, but as there are no trade partners now

I'll go with Howard.

Nice pick...if the Bucs trade down they may be looking for him too...

ThanksI really think they'll move down if at all possible. Addai willl probably be the pick in the early second, but I found it hard to justify Addai going before White and Maroney.

 

[-OZ-]

we'll give him a few more minutes and the I'll make the pick

any ideas?

I'm thinking Maroney.

Marcus McNeill. Their o-line is a wreck and while Maroney is great value, they have to protect their #1 player, Leinart.

Leinart is a Titan.Other than that, I agree with the McNeil pick

 

[milfordshane]

Any other opinions for the Jets?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

we'll give him a few more minutes and the I'll make the pick

any ideas?

I'm thinking Maroney.

Marcus McNeill. Their o-line is a wreck and while Maroney is great value, they have to protect their #1 player, Leinart.

Leinart is a Titan.Other than that, I agree with the McNeil pick

Cripes, I'm all effed up today! I still think McNeill is the pick.

 

[-OZ-]

we'll give him a few more minutes and the I'll make the pick

any ideas?

I'm thinking Maroney.

Marcus McNeill. Their o-line is a wreck and while Maroney is great value, they have to protect their #1 player, Leinart.

Leinart is a Titan.Other than that, I agree with the McNeil pick

Cripes, I'm all effed up today! I still think McNeill is the pick.

I assume you're just projecting your own mock into this one.Mario / McNeil would be a nice start, they need to build from the lines, Ramsey/Penny and CurMar/Houston aren't studs, but with the right players in front, they'll be solid enough.

 

[milfordshane]

Evilgrin seems to be away and this makes sense.

2.3 Marcus McNeil (OT, Auburn)

Has the tools to be a franchise LT for the next decade.

 

[Hobbes]

we'll give him a few more minutes and the I'll make the pick

any ideas?

I'm thinking Maroney.

Marcus McNeill. Their o-line is a wreck and while Maroney is great value, they have to protect their #1 player, Leinart.

Leinart is a Titan.Other than that, I agree with the McNeil pick

Cripes, I'm all effed up today! I still think McNeill is the pick.

I assume you're just projecting your own mock into this one.Mario / McNeil would be a nice start, they need to build from the lines, Ramsey/Penny and CurMar/Houston aren't studs, but with the right players in front, they'll be solid enough.

I think they take Maroney here. Williams and Mangold are a good start. Finding CuMarts replacement makes sense and they can still grab an OT at the beginning of round 3.

 

[milfordshane]

per Kleck at 2.4

I'm two away and just in case I'm not around.

1. Davin Joseph, G -- Oklahoma

San Fran - Derek19- Is on the clock

 

[Hobbes]

Evilgrin seems to be away and this makes sense.

2.3 Marcus McNeil (OT, Auburn)

Has the tools to be a franchise LT for the next decade.

And the back to be a franchise LT for at least a few games

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Evilgrin seems to be away and this makes sense.

2.3 Marcus McNeil (OT, Auburn)

Has the tools to be a franchise LT for the next decade.

And the back to be a franchise LT for at least a few games

I thought that the back had checked out okay?

 

[Chaos Commish]

That said, Marshall still isn't a bad pick. Some might call it a reach at a position that Jags didn't have need for, but the more I see of that guy the more he looks like legit NFL CB. If you can get a CB at 28 that's never bad.

You are absolutely right. I was hurried and looked at an older needs analysis. I forgot about Brian Williams who makes Marshall unnecessary, and I didn't know Winborn was gone. So much for me being on top of this. I would go OL or OLB if we had a do over. Maybe TE. Thanks for the input.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

per Kleck at 2.4

1. Davin Joseph, G -- Oklahoma

Tough pick for the Pack here. I can see them taking a chance on Sinorice Moss or Donte Whitner here.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That said, Marshall still isn't a bad pick. Some might call it a reach at a position that Jags didn't have need for, but the more I see of that guy the more he looks like legit NFL CB. If you can get a CB at 28 that's never bad.

You are absolutely right. I was hurried and looked at an older needs analysis. I forgot about Brian Williams who makes Marshall unnecessary, and I didn't know Winborn was gone. So much for me being on top of this. I would go OL or OLB if we had a do over. Maybe TE. Thanks for the input.

No he doesn't. Williams is thinks he's better than he actually is and the Jags WAAAAAY overpaid for him.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Evilgrin seems to be away and this makes sense.

2.3 Marcus McNeil (OT, Auburn)

Has the tools to be a franchise LT for the next decade.

If not for his back issue, I'm convinced he'd go much sooner. I just don't know how much NFL teams make of it, or how much we should. He and Jason Allen (who I also love) have become the two biggest mysteries after the first 15 picks or so.

 

[Wadsworth]

My mock has the Jets going Williams, Winston, Mangold, so yea, I agree with the McNeil pick. Get the big boys first, then get the little guys.

 

[-OZ-]

per Kleck at 2.4

1. Davin Joseph, G -- Oklahoma

Tough pick for the Pack here. I can see them taking a chance on Sinorice Moss or Donte Whitner here.

Quiet you!Not to say the Titans will take him, with the plethora of #2 or 3 WRs on the roster, but he's certainly a possibility.

 

[derek19]

Sorry for the delay guys, just got back to my desk for lunch

DARNELL BING, USC (UNDERCLASSMAN)

Positives: Good size (6-2 and 227 pounds). … Consistent playmaker. … Shows good anticipation on pass routes. … Solid ball skills. … Effective blitzer

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Sorry for the delay guys, just got back to my desk for lunch

DARNELL BING, USC (UNDERCLASSMAN)

Positives: Good size (6-2 and 227 pounds). … Consistent playmaker. … Shows good anticipation on pass routes. … Solid ball skills. … Effective blitzer

Bing will not go before Whitner.Right position, wrong player, IMO.

 

[5Rings]

San Fran - Derek19- Is on the clock

Derek pmd me and asked me to fill in for him today as he's in meetings.Give me a minute to catch up and I'll have SFs pick.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Evilgrin seems to be away and this makes sense.

2.3 Marcus McNeil (OT, Auburn)

Has the tools to be a franchise LT for the next decade.

And the back to be a franchise LT for at least a few games

I thought that the back had checked out okay?

McNeill announced his back was 100% cleared. He said it was nothing. Landed funny, got out of place, played through it for a whole season at a high level as a sophomore and never had another problem with it. His coach said it was blown out of proportion. Then three different teams leaked a little confidential information anonymously. McNeill has been diagnosed with spinal stenosis-- A narrowing of the spinal canal in his lower back. It's a calcium build up not uncommon and not career threatening, but it can cause pain, and can take surgery. It can get worse. He needs to do a thousand situps a day and strengthen the area. I read it described like a lime buildup on a faucet. What it does is disrupt nerve function, cause pain, and sap leg strength. I am concerned, personally.

 

[Wadsworth]

That said, Marshall still isn't a bad pick. Some might call it a reach at a position that Jags didn't have need for, but the more I see of that guy the more he looks like legit NFL CB. If you can get a CB at 28 that's never bad.

You are absolutely right. I was hurried and looked at an older needs analysis. I forgot about Brian Williams who makes Marshall unnecessary, and I didn't know Winborn was gone. So much for me being on top of this. I would go OL or OLB if we had a do over. Maybe TE. Thanks for the input.

No he doesn't. Williams is thinks he's better than he actually is and the Jags WAAAAAY overpaid for him.

We'll see if the Jags overpaid. I think Tice played a big part in that deal and he should know if Williams is worth it. If Williams is a bust, Tice will end up looking like a blockhead... again. Williams did keep Smoot on the bench even when he was healthy, that says something.

 

[5Rings]

San Fran - Derek19- Is on the clock

Derek pmd me and asked me to fill in for him today as he's in meetings.Give me a minute to catch up and I'll have SFs pick.

That was quick!

Nice pick, I think Bing is a great fit and pick here. Supposedly the Niners really focused on Bing at the USC pro day and he's been by the 49er facility.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

That said, Marshall still isn't a bad pick. Some might call it a reach at a position that Jags didn't have need for, but the more I see of that guy the more he looks like legit NFL CB. If you can get a CB at 28 that's never bad.

You are absolutely right. I was hurried and looked at an older needs analysis. I forgot about Brian Williams who makes Marshall unnecessary, and I didn't know Winborn was gone. So much for me being on top of this. I would go OL or OLB if we had a do over. Maybe TE. Thanks for the input.

No he doesn't. Williams is thinks he's better than he actually is and the Jags WAAAAAY overpaid for him.

We'll see if the Jags overpaid. I think Tice played a big part in that deal and he should know if Williams is worth it. If Williams is a bust, Tice will end up looking like a blockhead... again. Williams did keep Smoot on the bench even when he was healthy, that says something.

Smoot was lazy last year and will have a much better year this year, IMO.I don't think Williams is a bust, but I do think he's a nickle back. Marshall is a good pick in this scenario either way.

 

[milfordshane]

Payers still on the board

Laurence Maroney

Donte Whitner

Tamba Hali

Gabe Watson

Daniel Bullocks

Sinorice Moss

Ashton Youboty

Mercedes Lewis

among others

 

[Hobbes]

Sorry for the delay guys, just got back to my desk for lunch

DARNELL BING, USC (UNDERCLASSMAN)

Positives: Good size (6-2 and 227 pounds). … Consistent playmaker. … Shows good anticipation on pass routes. … Solid ball skills. … Effective blitzer

Bing will not go before Whitner.Right position, wrong player, IMO.

I like Simpson better as a SS and Whitner better as a FS...either way I don't like Bing before either...

 

[-OZ-]

Payers still on the board

Laurence Maroney

Donte Whitner

Tamba Hali

Gabe Watson

Daniel Bullocks

Sinorice Moss

Ashton Youboty

Mercedes Lewis

among others

There is no good reason for Watson to still be here.The Titans don't need a DT, but may take him just for BPA.

 

[Chaos Commish]

That said, Marshall still isn't a bad pick. Some might call it a reach at a position that Jags didn't have need for, but the more I see of that guy the more he looks like legit NFL CB. If you can get a CB at 28 that's never bad.

You are absolutely right. I was hurried and looked at an older needs analysis. I forgot about Brian Williams who makes Marshall unnecessary, and I didn't know Winborn was gone. So much for me being on top of this. I would go OL or OLB if we had a do over. Maybe TE. Thanks for the input.

No he doesn't. Williams is thinks he's better than he actually is and the Jags WAAAAAY overpaid for him.

We'll see if the Jags overpaid. I think Tice played a big part in that deal and he should know if Williams is worth it. If Williams is a bust, Tice will end up looking like a blockhead... again. Williams did keep Smoot on the bench even when he was healthy, that says something.

Smoot was lazy last year and will have a much better year this year, IMO.I don't think Williams is a bust, but I do think he's a nickle back. Marshall is a good pick in this scenario either way.

Thanks Andy. Looking at the Jags a little closer, I think DE is thought with that pick. It just depends on how certain players grade.

 

[Chaos Commish]

There is no good reason for Watson to still be here.

The Titans don't need a DT, but may take him just for BPA.

it's a deep draft. McCargo is on equal footing with Watson from what I'm hearing. Either could go late first. Either could linger through the mid to late second.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I like Simpson better as a SS and Whitner better as a FS...either way I don't like Bing before either...

Whitner is going to be a stud. Simpson and Bing are similar in many ways. I have a hard time deciding who I like better. Probably Simpson, but both of them should fall a little further than this.

 

[derek19]

Sorry for the delay guys, just got back to my desk for lunch

DARNELL BING, USC (UNDERCLASSMAN)

Positives: Good size (6-2 and 227 pounds). … Consistent playmaker. … Shows good anticipation on pass routes. … Solid ball skills. … Effective blitzer

Bing will not go before Whitner.Right position, wrong player, IMO.

I had like 6 guys written down and they all were taken. I seen that its been my turn for awhile and i seen over at a 49er site ppl wanting bing so i threw him out there so i wouldn't hold up the draft.

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Sorry for the delay guys, just got back to my desk for lunch

DARNELL BING, USC (UNDERCLASSMAN)

Positives: Good size (6-2 and 227 pounds). … Consistent playmaker. … Shows good anticipation on pass routes. … Solid ball skills. … Effective blitzer

Bing will not go before Whitner.Right position, wrong player, IMO.

I had like 6 guys written down and they all were taken. I seen that its been my turn for awhile and i seen over at a 49er site ppl wanting bing so i threw him out there so i wouldn't hold up the draft.

I don't think it's a bad pick. FWIW, if I were running the 49ers, I'd want to sell tickets and taking the local guy may be a good PR move.

 

[-OZ-]

There is no good reason for Watson to still be here.

The Titans don't need a DT, but may take him just for BPA.

it's a deep draft. McCargo is on equal footing with Watson from what I'm hearing. Either could go late first. Either could linger through the mid to late second.

Depends on what you want in a DT. McCargo will be the better pass rush DT, but Watson will plug the middle and is an ideal 3-4 NT.

 

[Kleck.]

per Kleck at 2.4

1. Davin Joseph, G -- Oklahoma

Tough pick for the Pack here. I can see them taking a chance on Sinorice Moss or Donte Whitner here.

It was and with limited time I didn't spend as much time debating the pick as I could have. With the top guards left I decided to go that route and help the running game.Chatman was let go because McCarthy wants big WR's. Moss doesn't exactly fit that, although he would be nice as a return man.

After Marguard was signed, I don't see saftey being as big of a need so I passed on Whitner.

 

[blkgolf23]

Oakland picks...Roger McIntosh OLB The U

Outstanding athletic ability...Has great speed and quickness with a burst to close...Can make plays sideline-to-sideline due to his range...Playmaker who is always around the action...Good tackler. Will look nice next to Kirk Morrison and Danny Clark

 

[Andy Dufresne]

per Kleck at 2.4

1. Davin Joseph, G -- Oklahoma

Tough pick for the Pack here. I can see them taking a chance on Sinorice Moss or Donte Whitner here.

It was and with limited time I didn't spend as much time debating the pick as I could have. With the top guards left I decided to go that route and help the running game.Chatman was let go because McCarthy wants big WR's. Moss doesn't exactly fit that, although he would be nice as a return man.

After Marguard was signed, I don't see saftey being as big of a need so I passed on Whitner.

Good reasoning, then. Was there a reason you went Joseph over Jean-Gilles? Personal preference?

 

[Andy Dufresne]

Oakland picks...Roger McIntosh OLB The U

Outstanding athletic ability...Has great speed and quickness with a burst to close...Can make plays sideline-to-sideline due to his range...Playmaker who is always around the action...Good tackler. Will look nice next to Kirk Morrison and Danny Clark

Good pick here. Their linebacking corps would be crazy with this addition.The other area of terrible need is o-line. So you had to be thinking that as an option too, right?

 

[blkgolf23]

Oakland picks...Roger McIntosh OLB The U

Outstanding athletic ability...Has great speed and quickness with a burst to close...Can make plays sideline-to-sideline due to his range...Playmaker who is always around the action...Good tackler. Will look nice next to Kirk Morrison and Danny Clark

Good pick here. Their linebacking corps would be crazy with this addition.The other area of terrible need is o-line. So you had to be thinking that as an option too, right?

Looked at O-line and D-line with pick.