IvanKaramazov
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Why the hell did you shower and then head off to the gym? That's stupid.
I shower every morning no matter what I'm doing after the shower. It's just habit.Why the hell did you shower and then head off to the gym? That's stupid.
There's more downside than upside to finding out the answer to that. I'll pass.Have you considered that she secretly really wants you to dominate her back? Grab her flip her over below you, and pound her like stale dough?She really didn't give me a bj per se; if that's what you want to call it, it was the worst ever. I think it's more of a domination thing with her. An "I can handle anything" type of attitude. Again, think of Napoleon syndrome on a 110lb lesbo.Orange = PIVBlue = receiving oralCan someone unpack this for me? I missed the whole dot thing.This is going way off topic... A discussion on raising children should move to its own thread.
I'm rooting for a follow-up with an orange dot and girl 1 and possibly some new girls.
ETA: Specifically, a key
Brown = pooper
ETA: pretty shocking the lesbo gave a blue one out
Serious question...
Not a parent, but I'd be a little creeped out if my mother or father took this big of an interest in my sexual enjoyment level.Serious question:
Would you rather your daughter has sex with 15 guys or so before settling down, learned what she likes and ends up with a dude who can deliver for her
Or
She saves herself for marriage, doesn't know what an orgasm feels like, and doesn't have one until her forties when my daughter convinced her to start masturbating?
lol you probably don't even shower with your kidsNot a parent, but I'd be a little creeped out if my mother or father took this big of an interest in my sexual enjoyment level.Serious question:
Would you rather your daughter has sex with 15 guys or so before settling down, learned what she likes and ends up with a dude who can deliver for her
Or
She saves herself for marriage, doesn't know what an orgasm feels like, and doesn't have one until her forties when my daughter convinced her to start masturbating?
Excellent euphemism.I'm not sure she looks at as having sex with me; more like just another tool in her drawer to get her off.btw- pretty impressive that girl #1 goes straight for the :browndot:
This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
Thought I was the only weird one who does this. I really can't do anything with my day until I shower. Even if it is to immediately go get sweaty.I shower every morning no matter what I'm doing after the shower. It's just habit.Why the hell did you shower and then head off to the gym? That's stupid.
Maybe she wants to appear as complete man-hating lesbo and this will ruin it for her?Why does girl 1 want to keep your encounter a secret from girl 3? Seems like it's all out there and no one would care. She have a reputation she feels she needs to live up to?
+1... Sometimes before the gym too in the morning... Kinda just wakes me upThought I was the only weird one who does this. I really can't do anything with my day until I shower. Even if it is to immediately go get sweaty.I shower every morning no matter what I'm doing after the shower. It's just habit.Why the hell did you shower and then head off to the gym? That's stupid.
Excellent euphemism.I'm not sure she looks at as having sex with me; more like just another tool in her drawer to get her off.btw- pretty impressive that girl #1 goes straight for the :browndot:
I wear a swimsuit if I take the kids in the shower. Only happened with an outdoor shower at The beach to get sand off.Mostly this is just a reaction to people saying ron's daughter will be a slut. It a ridiculous thing in the first place, but beyond that, it's a double standard for women, which is equally ridiculous.lol you probably don't even shower with your kidsNot a parent, but I'd be a little creeped out if my mother or father took this big of an interest in my sexual enjoyment level.Serious question:
Would you rather your daughter has sex with 15 guys or so before settling down, learned what she likes and ends up with a dude who can deliver for her
Or
She saves herself for marriage, doesn't know what an orgasm feels like, and doesn't have one until her forties when my daughter convinced her to start masturbating?
As someone who missed the first 50 pages of this thread, can I get a summary on how/why Ron's wife is cool with him banging 3 other women?[SIZE=10pt]Girl 1 pushes off of me and throws her t-shirt and panties on and rushes out of the room mumbling something about me being a weirdo creep. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Angie: Sorry to interrupt whatever that was (laughing) but can you take me to work? I’m working a brunch and I need to go help set up. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Me: What time do you need to be there?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Angie: 9:00am, I’m sorry[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Me: (looking across the room at the clock) it’s 8:40, we need to go.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]I jump up and throw on some gym shorts, Under Armor shirt, hoodie and slip on some boat shoes. As I head downstairs I see my wife and daughter are already up, with coats on getting ready to head out. “We have hair appointments, then a kids party to go to”, my wife says. I give the kisses and hugs and they head out, I’m right behind them with Angie to our respective vehicles. – Girl 1 is in the family room watching cartoons and eating Chocho Puffs. Girl 3 must have left earlier, no sign of her. While driving with Angie to drop her off, I say:[/SIZE]
+2 I had to take a shower before I just spent three hours cleaning the garage.+1... Sometimes before the gym too in the morning... Kinda just wakes me upThought I was the only weird one who does this. I really can't do anything with my day until I shower. Even if it is to immediately go get sweaty.I shower every morning no matter what I'm doing after the shower. It's just habit.Why the hell did you shower and then head off to the gym? That's stupid.
His wife lets him as long as he is honest. She also likes girls... Post 1 lays out all the key updates and it is pretty simple to navigate. Well organized thread for 50+ pages and well worth the readAs someone who missed the first 50 pages of this thread, can I get a summary on how/why Ron's wife is cool with him banging 3 other women?Girl 1 pushes off of me and throws her t-shirt and panties on and rushes out of the room mumbling something about me being a weirdo creep.
Angie: Sorry to interrupt whatever that was (laughing) but can you take me to work? Im working a brunch and I need to go help set up.
Me: What time do you need to be there?
Angie: 9:00am, Im sorry
Me: (looking across the room at the clock) its 8:40, we need to go.
I jump up and throw on some gym shorts, Under Armor shirt, hoodie and slip on some boat shoes. As I head downstairs I see my wife and daughter are already up, with coats on getting ready to head out. We have hair appointments, then a kids party to go to, my wife says. I give the kisses and hugs and they head out, Im right behind them with Angie to our respective vehicles. Girl 1 is in the family room watching cartoons and eating Chocho Puffs. Girl 3 must have left earlier, no sign of her. While driving with Angie to drop her off, I say:
Read the first post, he's got links to all the updates there.As someone who missed the first 50 pages of this thread, can I get a summary on how/why Ron's wife is cool with him banging 3 other women?[SIZE=10pt]Girl 1 pushes off of me and throws her t-shirt and panties on and rushes out of the room mumbling something about me being a weirdo creep. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Angie: Sorry to interrupt whatever that was (laughing) but can you take me to work? I’m working a brunch and I need to go help set up. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Me: What time do you need to be there?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Angie: 9:00am, I’m sorry[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]Me: (looking across the room at the clock) it’s 8:40, we need to go.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=10pt]I jump up and throw on some gym shorts, Under Armor shirt, hoodie and slip on some boat shoes. As I head downstairs I see my wife and daughter are already up, with coats on getting ready to head out. “We have hair appointments, then a kids party to go to”, my wife says. I give the kisses and hugs and they head out, I’m right behind them with Angie to our respective vehicles. – Girl 1 is in the family room watching cartoons and eating Chocho Puffs. Girl 3 must have left earlier, no sign of her. While driving with Angie to drop her off, I say:[/SIZE]
You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
We're a lot more prepared for uncomfortable conversations than most parents. Frankly, I'll consider it a win if she feels totally comfortable talking to my wife or I about anything. There are plenty of parents with teens that find out YEARS after they've started experimenting sexually - most come from "great homes" (which mine is apparantly not one).When I first started reading this thread, I too was concerned about Ron's daughter. For whatever reason, it is not that much of a concern now. Ron's daughter may just have a better grip on her sexuality as a teen since she will probably present lots of questions to mom and dad.
Which one? (I want to hook her up with my son who is in 2nd year of a eng. camp)We're a lot more prepared for uncomfortable conversations than most parents. Frankly, I'll consider it a win if she feels totally comfortable talking to my wife or I about anything.There are plenty of parents with teens that find out YEARS after they've started experimenting sexually - most come from "great homes" (which mine is apparantly not one).When I first started reading this thread, I too was concerned about Ron's daughter. For whatever reason, it is not that much of a concern now. Ron's daughter may just have a better grip on her sexuality as a teen since she will probably present lots of questions to mom and dad.
My daughter goes to on of the top private schools in the US, she'll have a 529 that can fund anything she wants to do, we spend hours upon hours together each week, she has tons of school friends, she's interested in how things work so she'll be going into here second year the summer camp engineering and science program; which she received top honors in...yes very horrible place to live.
Please tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
usually everyone is not a different racePlease tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?
Usually you dont diddle the aunts and cousins eitherIs this scenario in the Appalachian Mountains? If so, exactly the same.Please tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?
Quit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
This isn't a math question bro.![]()
Yes and YesQuit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
This isn't a math question bro.![]()
Good deal. All I was looking for.Yes and YesQuit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
This isn't a math question bro.![]()
I know you're kidding but this is one of the things I hope she grows to ignore. Her 'mommy and daddy' don't look the same, people look different.usually everyone is not a different racePlease tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?Usually you dont diddle the aunts and cousins either
for the love of god, please invite me into your life. I think you need a break and I volunteer to fill inYou say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
This isn't a math question bro.![]()
I'm not sure you would enjoy it.for the love of god, please invite me into your life. I think you need a break and I volunteer to fill inYou say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
This isn't a math question bro.![]()
Nope, we're not related.Is this scenario in the Appalachian Mountains? If so, exactly the same.Please tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?
I'm not sure you would enjoy it.for the love of god, please invite me into your life. I think you need a break and I volunteer to fill inYou say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.
This isn't a math question bro.![]()
It involves a lot of drama, struggling to align with 'being normal' and being judged by people who have no idea wtf they're talking about.
It's a high toll you pay. (but worth every ### #### penny)yes it was a complete joke and i was gonna delete it but figured youd realize it was a jokeArizona Ron said:I know you're kidding but this is one of the things I hope she grows to ignore. Her 'mommy and daddy' don't look the same, people look different.shadyridr said:usually everyone is not a different raceArizona Ron said:Please tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?Bucky86 said:What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?Usually you dont diddle the aunts and cousins either
I'm glad it's an ignorance she addressed at a very young age - and got over.
i think everyone judging you (including me) is probably out of line. But to say what you are doing is no different then living with ones aunt/cousins etc is completely ignorant cuz You DONT BANG your family.Arizona Ron said:Nope, we're not related.Henry Ford said:Is this scenario in the Appalachian Mountains? If so, exactly the same.Arizona Ron said:Please tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?Bucky86 said:What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?
Sounds like your daughter is well-loved and thriving.Arizona Ron said:We're a lot more prepared for uncomfortable conversations than most parents. Frankly, I'll consider it a win if she feels totally comfortable talking to my wife or I about anything. There are plenty of parents with teens that find out YEARS after they've started experimenting sexually - most come from "great homes" (which mine is apparantly not one).When I first started reading this thread, I too was concerned about Ron's daughter. For whatever reason, it is not that much of a concern now. Ron's daughter may just have a better grip on her sexuality as a teen since she will probably present lots of questions to mom and dad.
My daughter goes to on of the top private schools in the US, she'll have a 529 that can fund anything she wants to do, we spend hours upon hours together each week, she has tons of school friends, she's interested in how things work so she'll be going into here second year the summer camp engineering and science program; which she received top honors in...yes very horrible place to live.
That's "all you were looking for"? Did you catch the gay?BigJohn said:Good deal. All I was looking for.Arizona Ron said:Yes and YesBigJohn said:Quit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This isn't a math question bro.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.![]()
That's "all you were looking for"? Did you catch the gay?BigJohn said:Good deal. All I was looking for.Arizona Ron said:Yes and YesBigJohn said:Quit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This isn't a math question bro.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.![]()
Why do you care so much, so much to disregard a truelly great American story? What's YOUR DEAL? That you need to make "debt collector type posts" ...projecting angst that Mr. Arizona didnt answer your stupid question? As IF you really care about his daughter?
If your mind is blown that AZR can accomplish raising a daughter, and laying pipe at the same time...then just say it. Your in awe of his wangs exploits...don't try turning it into some lame type of "your concerned" bull####. You don't care. Your jealous. Your angry, and instead of congratulating this man on his accomplishments, your attempting to demean his lifestyle so you feel better about yourself for being a regular lame.
Bad form. Grow up, shut up. Don't be fake. I'm a family man myself, but I also own a #### and balls and can appreciate what ARZ has accomplished. And if he is doing his job as a father? What in the #### so dorks like you care?
"Quiet dodging and answer the question..."That's "all you were looking for"? Did you catch the gay?Why do you care so much, so much to disregard a truelly great American story? What's YOUR DEAL? That you need to make "debt collector type posts" ...projecting angst that Mr. Arizona didnt answer your stupid question? As IF you really care about his daughter?BigJohn said:Good deal. All I was looking for.Arizona Ron said:Yes and YesBigJohn said:Quit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This isn't a math question bro.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.![]()
If your mind is blown that AZR can accomplish raising a daughter, and laying pipe at the same time...then just say it. Your in awe of his wangs exploits...don't try turning it into some lame type of "your concerned" bull####. You don't care. Your jealous. Your angry, and instead of congratulating this man on his accomplishments, your attempting to demean his lifestyle so you feel better about yourself for being a regular lame.
Bad form. Grow up, shut up. Don't be fake. I'm a family man myself, but I also own a #### and balls and can appreciate what ARZ has accomplished. And if he is doing his job as a father? What in the #### so dorks like you care?![]()
ETA: Do you honestly believe believe that I think Ron gives a flying #### about what I think? Get some perspective, brohan.
Right, that's what I'm saying. How it's different from the cousin/aunt/uncle scenario.Arizona Ron said:Nope, we're not related.Henry Ford said:Is this scenario in the Appalachian Mountains? If so, exactly the same.Arizona Ron said:Please tell me how this is different than a young girl growing up with older sisters?Bucky86 said:What could possibly go wrong with a young daughter waking up and seeing different women in various stages of dress around the home.
Or living with their cousin, aunt, grand mom or some other nuclear family makeup?
Wow. I've obviously touched a nerve, here."Quiet dodging and answer the question..."That's "all you were looking for"? Did you catch the gay?Why do you care so much, so much to disregard a truelly great American story? What's YOUR DEAL? That you need to make "debt collector type posts" ...projecting angst that Mr. Arizona didnt answer your stupid question? As IF you really care about his daughter?BigJohn said:Good deal. All I was looking for.Arizona Ron said:Yes and YesBigJohn said:Quit dodging and answer the question. Would you be ok with your daughter being in an open relationship? I'm not doubting your love. But, you seem to be defensive about allowing your daughter to be exposed to this lifestyle. Do you feel this is a healthy environment that you would be ok with your daughter being involved in?You say it as it's a defined "lifestyle" or choice. My wife and I never planned this. We love each other, our daughter and we love the friends we invite into our lives.This isn't a math question bro.This makes the second time in this thread you have avoided answering this question.The only question you have to answer is, are you okay with your daughter adopting the same lifestyle, whichever part she plays in the relationship. If the answer is yes, then you are doing just fine.I'm still curious to know more about this perfect way to raise a kid.
I'm all ears.![]()
If your mind is blown that AZR can accomplish raising a daughter, and laying pipe at the same time...then just say it. Your in awe of his wangs exploits...don't try turning it into some lame type of "your concerned" bull####. You don't care. Your jealous. Your angry, and instead of congratulating this man on his accomplishments, your attempting to demean his lifestyle so you feel better about yourself for being a regular lame.
Bad form. Grow up, shut up. Don't be fake. I'm a family man myself, but I also own a #### and balls and can appreciate what ARZ has accomplished. And if he is doing his job as a father? What in the #### so dorks like you care?![]()
ETA: Do you honestly believe believe that I think Ron gives a flying #### about what I think? Get some perspective, brohan.
That's YOU "brah"...what perspective do I need?
No. I can honestly say Ron does not give a damn what you think or if you even exist in the Internet...
Look at his response to you..."yes and yes"...
That reads: "who the eff is this tool? I'll answer his meaningless self-loathing post, just so he stops asking me stupid questions about my own daughter."
Enjoy his story. Shut up about how he raises his daughter. Worry about your own
Good question.Ron...any updates on Angie's living situation? Did she move in after her lease was up?