LOL @ Mathew Berry (1 Viewer)

[FDC]

Hey if you're going to miss, you might as well miss like that. Like Insein said though, he also had some pretty good hits as well. I bet his recommendation of the San Diego D/ST probably helped out a bunch of owners as well last week.

No comparison. You are probably dropping SD this week. "unloading" Martin last week could potentially cost you winning your league.

I suppose it depends on who you traded him for. It's also conceivable that Berry wasn't wrong about trading him high. He was just off on the week to do it. I'm a Martin owner myself and I just don't have the depth to think about moving him so I was going to hold no matter what was said about him but I can certainly understand the sentiment in redraft about selling as high as possible. Everyone's mistake really was in thinking that the Minny game was his ceiling and that the sky was falling with regard to the Nicks injury. Not one person that I saw talking about Nicks thought to say lets wait a week and see how the Bucs would adjust to Nicks's absence. As an owner, if you made the move to dump Martin without at least considering the adjustment period for the o-line then its on you and not Berry or any other prognostication.

I guess it deserves repeating, the FBGs on the couch said he was a must hold

 

[yoadrian]

Just like many things in fantasy, the o-line is always a fickle point of contention. The o-line is important no doubt, but you really can't be sure how changes to it will affect a RB or QB. Trying to be preemptive about the situation, you are rolling the dice.

 

[cracKer]

"unloading" Martin last week could potentially cost you winning your league.

Sure, the sting of missing last weeks production hurt, but do we really expect Martin to be the top fantasy back from this point on? I don't. Guessing that some of the trades will actually work out better for those that unloaded Martin

 

[FDC]

"unloading" Martin last week could potentially cost you winning your league.

Sure, the sting of missing last weeks production hurt, but do we really expect Martin to be the top fantasy back from this point on? I don't. Guessing that some of the trades will actually work out better for those that unloaded Martin

Well I assume you didn't get top fantasy back value for him did you?What makes you think he can't be one of the top fantasy backs going forward?remaining schedule:SDCARATLDENPHILNO STL

 

[cracKer]

I don't own him, didn't play against him. Funny to see that even Yahoo has him scoring 18-20 points per game every week from here on out. Enjoy the monster 2 game stretch and take it for what it is. We now know what he has the potential to do, both up and down. To proceed without tempered expectations would be setting yourself up for major disappointment. Trading him at this point to someone who thinks he is the top fantasy back is the move to make

 

[FDC]

I don't own him, didn't play against him. Funny to see that even Yahoo has him scoring 18-20 points per game every week from here on out. Enjoy the monster 2 game stretch and take it for what it is. We now know what he has the potential to do, both up and down. To proceed without tempered expectations would be setting yourself up for major disappointment. Trading him at this point to someone who thinks he is the top fantasy back is the move to make

Trading him at this point is not what this thread is about

 

[jdoggydogg]

Can we all join together and just agree to avoid whining about people WHO ARE TRYING TO SEE INTO THE ####ING FUTURE?

He made a call. He was wrong. You do it all the time.

 

[otb_lifer]

Want someone worse than Berry? Try Adam Rank on nfl.com ... he's a straight up Berry knockoff, even having a "like/dislike" shtick (Berry's "love/hate"), and ridiculous forays into pop culture, other sports, etc.

This week's sample: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000095532/article/likedislike-finally-able-to-break-from-cam-newton

If imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, than Rank is a Berry NUT HUGGER SUPREME.

 

[Short Corner]

Saying he wasn't on the Hate list is a technicality here, folks.

Martin was called out in Matthew's Love / Hate article as someone he was jumping off the bandwagon for PRIOR to delving into his Week 9 loves/hates. Berry also made a point of blowing the Nicks loss out of proportion on his podcast, on the website, on television... pretty much everywhere you can think of.

He's copped to this being a bad call. Wasn't his first, won't be his last. Just part of the job.

That's pretty much it right here. He is one of the few guys I've seen that admits his mistakes. He doesn't gloss over the missed calls. If anything he highlights them the next week by poking fun at himself.

FBG staff can learn from this. Instead they like to whine about how a guy is misused or some dumb coach is unpredictable, yet they are more than ready to take full credit when they get a back door cover in garbage time.

 

[chickensoup]

I don't listen to the 06010 as much as I used to (once a week now) but here's the part I like the most about matthew Berry in particular. He doesn't take his job too seriously. He recognizes that fantasy sports are mostly based on luck, and knows that "experts" are wrong all the freaking time.

Biggest of all though, he nearly always owns up to mistakes. This is a trait so many could learn, especially the FBG staff. The info they give out is outstanding (I listen specifically for the Gene) but sometimes their info on the podcast seems like shotgunning. I understand it's to get people to buy a sub and look at rankings, but it gets a little ridiculous.

where the FBG staff never owns up is drafting and guys they recommend. If people are going to take any kind of credit on these boards or on the podcast for say Doug Martin, they need to fully own how horrifically bad a call say Hillis or Lloyd were, which were two guys that were really hyped coming into the season. Hillis is the perfect counter to the TMR Martin situation.

Hillis going into the year: KC looked like an ok team. Said they are going to run 600(?) times. Looked like about a 60/40 share between Hillis and Charles. Season starts and Hillis has 18 carries in 2 games, basically fantasy irrelevant unless Charles gets hurt. Bad call

Martin: Has a couple of decent weeks 1-6 then has a good game and a great game. Then his teams best lineman goes on IR. FBG says hold, TMR says trade at highest value. TMR is wrong(ish) but admits it. FBG has a good call and kind of gloat about it.

You have to be willing to admit when you give strait bad advice (in hindsight) or else you come across as guys who shotgun predictions (which mid season seems like par for the course on FBG especially with flex spots). At least TMR takes chances and puts it out there with reasoning and says when he was wrong, which is possibly the one part of FBG that could use improvement IMO