long hair up for vote (1 Viewer)

[Da Guru]

I think it's racially motivated to get rid of the dreadlocks. They would never say that, but that's the "real" reason.

They don`t have to get rid of them, just tuck the hair inside the helmet. No big deal, plus it may prevent an injury. Line cooks have to do the same thing for much less money.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some players have so much hair that I'm not sure they can tuck it inside their helmet. At least not where the helmet would fit.

Who knows? If it prevents one neck injury it is worth it.

Eliminating tackles from the game will prevent neck injuries along with alot of other injuries. If it prevents one injury it is worth it.Safety shouldn't be a buzzword to get one owners personal pet peve superficial BS pushed through.This is the ''Don't spike the ball'' rule of 08. The African/Samoan cultural thing may be enough to keep this one from being passed but like seatbelt laws not being passed at first because of DWB concerns this too may not be enough a year or two down the road.

My first job out of college was with Rockwell INT. The first day on the job my boss called me in and said my hair was too long. Next day..my hair was shorter. I had a choice, make good money and abide by the rules, or leave the job and keep my long hair. Plus my hair was not even that long, but it was company policy.

Rockwell INTL wasn't a monopoly.

Arena Football is a pro league. I think that any NFL player could walk in and get a job the next day playing Arena ball.I had the same choice to make in some regards. I was getting pretty good $$ for 22 years of age, I know I could have went somewhere else for less $$, but I made the choice that the extra dollars were worth a haircut.

 

[Yenrub]

Two questionsA) Does Polamalu's hair in any way help an opposing QB identify him, versus having shorter hair, specifically on the football field during a game?B) If so, does that ID help the QB in any way possible when attempting a pass against the Steelers defense?If it's possible in any way, if it gives the offense even just one slight advantage, then Polamalu should cut his hair. And Kevin Mawae is an idiot. He's locked into the fight based on his position, no one is going to begrudge him that. It's his job to fight everything. But to pull the race card is weak. If I was running an NFL team, if I could see any scenario where long hair gives the other team some kind of advantage, then I would treat any player with long hair like any player who comes to camp out of shape or doesn't know his playbook. Will it help me win or lose a football game? That's what matters. THE MARKET CORRECTS ITSELF. If someone in the NFL is a racist and makes decisions solely on race instead of winning, then you don't need to punish them, eventually those decisions will help those franchises lose, and along with losing games, they will lose prestige and money and influence. "You don't like me because I'm black or Samoan!""No, I don't like you because you could have gotten five extra yards if you didn't have Rapunzel's hairdo and we lost the game because of it, and because you put your fashion over winning, that makes you an idiot"Putting winning second to anything makes you an idiot in the NFL. Black or Samoan players, along with whites, asians, latinos and four legged Martians, who don't cut their hair and give the opposition some kind of advantage on the field are idiots. Being black does not absolve you from being an idiot. Being Samoan does not absolve you being an idiot.

I am pretty sure that big #43 on his jersey helps QB's Identify him

 

[fatness]

Two questionsA) Does Polamalu's hair in any way help an opposing QB identify him, versus having shorter hair, specifically on the football field during a game?B) If so, does that ID help the QB in any way possible when attempting a pass against the Steelers defense?

His head coach would be the best judge of whether either of those things affect the team. The league would not.

 

[Chase Stuart]

I think it's racially motivated to get rid of the dreadlocks. They would never say that, but that's the "real" reason.

They don`t have to get rid of them, just tuck the hair inside the helmet. No big deal, plus it may prevent an injury. Line cooks have to do the same thing for much less money.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some players have so much hair that I'm not sure they can tuck it inside their helmet. At least not where the helmet would fit.

Who knows? If it prevents one neck injury it is worth it.

Eliminating tackles from the game will prevent neck injuries along with alot of other injuries. If it prevents one injury it is worth it.Safety shouldn't be a buzzword to get one owners personal pet peve superficial BS pushed through.This is the ''Don't spike the ball'' rule of 08. The African/Samoan cultural thing may be enough to keep this one from being passed but like seatbelt laws not being passed at first because of DWB concerns this too may not be enough a year or two down the road.

My first job out of college was with Rockwell INT. The first day on the job my boss called me in and said my hair was too long. Next day..my hair was shorter. I had a choice, make good money and abide by the rules, or leave the job and keep my long hair. Plus my hair was not even that long, but it was company policy.

Rockwell INTL wasn't a monopoly.

Arena Football is a pro league. I think that any NFL player could walk in and get a job the next day playing Arena ball.I had the same choice to make in some regards. I was getting pretty good $$ for 22 years of age, I know I could have went somewhere else for less $$, but I made the choice that the extra dollars were worth a haircut.

Sounds like a very similar choice.

 

[Da Guru]

I think it's racially motivated to get rid of the dreadlocks. They would never say that, but that's the "real" reason.

They don`t have to get rid of them, just tuck the hair inside the helmet. No big deal, plus it may prevent an injury. Line cooks have to do the same thing for much less money.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but some players have so much hair that I'm not sure they can tuck it inside their helmet. At least not where the helmet would fit.

Who knows? If it prevents one neck injury it is worth it.

Eliminating tackles from the game will prevent neck injuries along with alot of other injuries. If it prevents one injury it is worth it.Safety shouldn't be a buzzword to get one owners personal pet peve superficial BS pushed through.

This is the ''Don't spike the ball'' rule of 08. The African/Samoan cultural thing may be enough to keep this one from being passed but like seatbelt laws not being passed at first because of DWB concerns this too may not be enough a year or two down the road.

My first job out of college was with Rockwell INT. The first day on the job my boss called me in and said my hair was too long. Next day..my hair was shorter. I had a choice, make good money and abide by the rules, or leave the job and keep my long hair. Plus my hair was not even that long, but it was company policy.

Rockwell INTL wasn't a monopoly.

Arena Football is a pro league. I think that any NFL player could walk in and get a job the next day playing Arena ball.I had the same choice to make in some regards. I was getting pretty good $$ for 22 years of age, I know I could have went somewhere else for less $$, but I made the choice that the extra dollars were worth a haircut.

Sounds like a very similar choice.

Like most things it is all relative to your situation..to me at 22 years of age it was huge money. Now it does not seem like that much.

 

[Interseptopus]

This whole rule is about marketing. The NFL wants to market their players. Someone sees a name "Player X" on the back of his jersey, he wants to go buy that jersey if he loves that player. If the guy's got his hair hanging over the numbers and name, that's less likely. Yes, most people are smart enough they don't need to read it, but there are a lot of stupid people out there... stupid people who could spend more money

I think it's a stupid rule. If guys want to wear their hair long and get tackled by it then fine. I think they should take away the rule that you can't tackle someone by the hair. If they wear it long, then they should be allowed to tackle them by it.

 

[Interseptopus]

You know what some players should do----

Get their jerseys modified so that their name and number are on the BOTTOM of the jersey. Would allow for longer hair

 

[nxmehta]

Two questionsA) Does Polamalu's hair in any way help an opposing QB identify him, versus having shorter hair, specifically on the football field during a game?B) If so, does that ID help the QB in any way possible when attempting a pass against the Steelers defense?If it's possible in any way, if it gives the offense even just one slight advantage, then Polamalu should cut his hair. And Kevin Mawae is an idiot. He's locked into the fight based on his position, no one is going to begrudge him that. It's his job to fight everything. But to pull the race card is weak. If I was running an NFL team, if I could see any scenario where long hair gives the other team some kind of advantage, then I would treat any player with long hair like any player who comes to camp out of shape or doesn't know his playbook. Will it help me win or lose a football game? That's what matters. THE MARKET CORRECTS ITSELF. If someone in the NFL is a racist and makes decisions solely on race instead of winning, then you don't need to punish them, eventually those decisions will help those franchises lose, and along with losing games, they will lose prestige and money and influence. "You don't like me because I'm black or Samoan!""No, I don't like you because you could have gotten five extra yards if you didn't have Rapunzel's hairdo and we lost the game because of it, and because you put your fashion over winning, that makes you an idiot"Putting winning second to anything makes you an idiot in the NFL. Black or Samoan players, along with whites, asians, latinos and four legged Martians, who don't cut their hair and give the opposition some kind of advantage on the field are idiots. Being black does not absolve you from being an idiot. Being Samoan does not absolve you being an idiot.

I am pretty sure that big #43 on his jersey helps QB's Identify him

 

[AhrnCityPahnder]

Here's one hair tackle

no.

 

[renesauz]

To be brutally honest, I am saddened by the fact that an issue like this should be so hotly contested. We have come to the point, as a society, where our (mis)PERCEIVED individual rights are more important to us then the desires of our employers...often to our own detriment.

"Hey, I have a biig order and I need some overtime from you."

"F you boss..I have plans. Find some other chump to do it."

3 weeks later....

"Boss...why did you hire XXX and cut my hours?"

The NFL pays it's players millions of dollars. They are not only within their rights to ask players to look professional, I'm honestly shocked that they hadn't done this DECADES ago.

And for those of you who think short hair means little to looking professional...that's why you're (mostly) still stuck in dead end low wage jobs, and unless you change your thinking, you likely always will be.

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

 

[Da Guru]

To be brutally honest, I am saddened by the fact that an issue like this should be so hotly contested. We have come to the point, as a society, where our (mis)PERCEIVED individual rights are more important to us then the desires of our employers...often to our own detriment. "Hey, I have a biig order and I need some overtime from you.""F you boss..I have plans. Find some other chump to do it."3 weeks later...."Boss...why did you hire XXX and cut my hours?"The NFL pays it's players millions of dollars. They are not only within their rights to ask players to look professional, I'm honestly shocked that they hadn't done this DECADES ago.And for those of you who think short hair means little to looking professional...that's why you're (mostly) still stuck in dead end low wage jobs, and unless you change your thinking, you likely always will be.ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I agree. My first boss told me "When I pay your salary..I make the rules, either you abide by the company rules, or you are free to seek employment elsewhere" I got the message.

 

[fatness]

So when does the NFL go after the sloppy fat guys? They're an injury risk to themselves and others, and an image problem.

 

[Yenrub]

To be brutally honest, I am saddened by the fact that an issue like this should be so hotly contested. We have come to the point, as a society, where our (mis)PERCEIVED individual rights are more important to us then the desires of our employers...often to our own detriment.

"Hey, I have a biig order and I need some overtime from you."

"F you boss..I have plans. Find some other chump to do it."

3 weeks later....

"Boss...why did you hire XXX and cut my hours?"

The NFL pays it's players millions of dollars. They are not only within their rights to ask players to look professional, I'm honestly shocked that they hadn't done this DECADES ago.

And for those of you who think short hair means little to looking professional...that's why you're (mostly) still stuck in dead end low wage jobs, and unless you change your thinking, you likely always will be.

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I would think that playing football is one of them.

 

[renesauz]

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I would think that playing football is one of them.

I respect that thought...but the NFL is a multi million dollar business with only a few hundred employees who are consistantly put on National TV. The image of a specific player may not be as important as his play on the field, but to suggest that it's unimportant is just plain naive. If you think I'm way off base, then why would the commissioner care about the off-field antics of players like Pac-Man?

 

[fatness]

If you think I'm way off base, then why would the commissioner care about the off-field antics of players like Pac-Man?

To be fair, you're equating off-field behavior with on-field appearance. In my opinion they have little or nothing to do with each other.edited to add: I heard on the radio this afternoon that the NFL put off discussion of this issue for a month.

 

[Yenrub]

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I would think that playing football is one of them.

I respect that thought...but the NFL is a multi million dollar business with only a few hundred employees who are consistantly put on National TV. The image of a specific player may not be as important as his play on the field, but to suggest that it's unimportant is just plain naive. If you think I'm way off base, then why would the commissioner care about the off-field antics of players like Pac-Man?

Big difference between guys like Pacman acting like fools off the field and guys like Mike McKenzie & Troy Polamalu sporting long hair on it.

 

[Da Guru]

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I would think that playing football is one of them.

I respect that thought...but the NFL is a multi million dollar business with only a few hundred employees who are consistantly put on National TV. The image of a specific player may not be as important as his play on the field, but to suggest that it's unimportant is just plain naive. If you think I'm way off base, then why would the commissioner care about the off-field antics of players like Pac-Man?

Big difference between guys like Pacman acting like fools off the field and guys like Mike McKenzie & Troy Polamalu sporting long hair on it.

The NFL is a stickler on their uniform code. They can be a stickler on the hair. What is the big deal..NFL careers are short..so you can grow your hair long for the rest of your life.

 

[Yenrub]

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I would think that playing football is one of them.

I respect that thought...but the NFL is a multi million dollar business with only a few hundred employees who are consistantly put on National TV. The image of a specific player may not be as important as his play on the field, but to suggest that it's unimportant is just plain naive. If you think I'm way off base, then why would the commissioner care about the off-field antics of players like Pac-Man?

Big difference between guys like Pacman acting like fools off the field and guys like Mike McKenzie & Troy Polamalu sporting long hair on it.

The NFL is a stickler on their uniform code. They can be a stickler on the hair. What is the big deal..NFL careers are short..so you can grow your hair long for the rest of your life.

Good question....what's the big deal? The NFL sure doesn't seem to have a problem putting some of these guys in commercials with thier long hair. Why ask them to cut it now?

 

[Biabreakable]

Black or Samoan players, along with whites, asians, latinos and four legged Martians, who don't cut their hair and give the opposition some kind of advantage on the field are idiots. Being black does not absolve you from being an idiot. Being Samoan does not absolve you being an idiot.

It certainly isn't absolving Jeremy Shockey either.

 

[renesauz]

ETA: Not meaning to say all people with long hair are losers...far from it. There are MANY very profitable and honorable lines of work where hair length is not even a remote factor for success...but none of those lines of work will place a priority on interpersonal skills, or personel APPEARENCE.

I would think that playing football is one of them.

I respect that thought...but the NFL is a multi million dollar business with only a few hundred employees who are consistantly put on National TV. The image of a specific player may not be as important as his play on the field, but to suggest that it's unimportant is just plain naive. If you think I'm way off base, then why would the commissioner care about the off-field antics of players like Pac-Man?

Big difference between guys like Pacman acting like fools off the field and guys like Mike McKenzie & Troy Polamalu sporting long hair on it.

Of course there is...but it's still about IMAGE.