Looting in Missouri after cops shoot 18 year old (2 Viewers)

[brianj74]

Assuming that not all the looters were from out of town, I never understood why a person would vandalize/loot the community that they live in.

 

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Not the same level of damage, of course. Of course, not really the same situation, either.

Good thing you picked this girl to dance with, then.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

So, for the national chain stores, O'Reilly Auto, Little Ceasar's, etc... what is the upside to rebuilding these stores?

I wouldn't rebuild...I'd take my insurance money and say #### you people of Ferguson.

 

[RBM]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk. Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

Why couldn't this have happened last night. I'd pay to see that scene.

 

[tom22406]

I wonder how many of those people were from Ferguson that did the damage and how many outsiders actually just came in to tear #### up?

My thought exactly. The looters wore their masks while gathering waiting for the verdict, they weren't exactly being inconspicuous.

That ustreamer Baheem seemed like he was actually there for the right reason (a peaceful protest) and even helped save a couple of the local restaurants. But he stayed back with the police when the looters moved on to McDonalds and the liquor store.

Yeah seeing some of them walk around in various types of masks certainly was a sign of things to come.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Why is the black community rallying their cause around a thug? There are so many racial injustices in this country. Pick a better one to to rally around. Don't pick the guy who robs a store, assaults the store owner, punches a cop in the cop car, then bull rushes a cop. Then to go riot and burn innocent people's busineses. Makes you wonder.

People rally around racial injustices all the time. Google "Oscar Grant" for just one recent exampe. IMO the difference in this case is the police behavior both in term of accountability after the incident and in response to the initial protests.

 

[RBM]

Assuming that not all the looters were from out of town, I never understood why a person would vandalize/loot the community that they live in.

Look at the looters. You think any of them have a brain? They're animals.

 

[kentric]

I imagine they were told not to engage the rioters aggressively for fear of making it worse.

This. If the police went in early cracking heads you can rest assured that the political backlash against the police would be extreme. They probably figure as long as noone is shot that they can take the loss of a few businesses.

 

[StrikeS2k]

Do people in New Hampshire not care about their community?

This paticular link doesn't work for me (getting an "old browser" message). But I've seen references to the "Pumpkin Riot" a few times in this thread. Before I read any details: was that really comparable to Ferguson in any way?

Off to Google.

Of course not... that won't stop Tobias from googling every riot involving white people he can find, without even considering it's relevance to the discussion at hand (lawless theft and destruction of local businesses within your own community), though.

There are a lot of differences- scope/extent of damage on the one hand, the cause of the riots (perceived injustice and authoritarian police behavior vs. sports results) on the other. My point wasn't that those places are bad, or that everyone riots. My point was that few dozen terrible people reacting poorly to some trigger event doesn't equate to a terrible community that doesn't care about its well-being and its businesses.

I'm not really in the mood for an ifight today. I thought I'd post about how maybe would be cool if there was a fundraiser to help the local businesses there- hoping that maybe there already was one, or that there would be one soon and someone would remember I asked about it and post the link here when it happened. If you want to play angry internet guy today you'll have to find someone else to argue with.

So it's your assertion that the riots last night included no more than 36 rioters?

 

[Sand]

So, for the national chain stores, O'Reilly Auto, Little Ceasar's, etc... what is the upside to rebuilding these stores?

I guess it depends on whether these were franchises or owned by the national corp. I can imagine some serious discussions about insurance, employee safety, and profit margins at these particular locations, though.

 

[RBM]

Why is the black community rallying their cause around a thug? There are so many racial injustices in this country. Pick a better one to to rally around. Don't pick the guy who robs a store, assaults the store owner, punches a cop in the cop car, then bull rushes a cop. Then to go riot and burn innocent people's busineses. Makes you wonder.

You ####### suck as a human being.

Oh shut up and go away. He's exactly right. Go get yourself a clue and spare us.

 

[kentric]

Absolutely disgusting watching law enforcement stand in line with their thumbs up their asses while businesses burn.

What the hell are they suppose to do?Arrest the fire?

Are you seriously watching the same video?I am watching dozens of officers standing in formation with basically an empty street in front of them and instead of moving forward, advancing and securing more area and controlling an area where businesses are burning...they just stand there.

They swear to protect and serve. So...go ####### do it. They had weeks to prepare for this bull####.

No way I would send the fire department in with shots being fired.

The building is a loss whats the point. The firemen can take care of more pressing matters.

You think every building on fire is a total loss? I have been looking at Red's BBQ joint with a modest fire in the sitting area for about 20 minutes now. There are many businesses where damages can be limited and more importantly...if the authorities are more aggressive in taking real estate it would actually minimize the number of targets for potential vandalism.

Thank god we only pay cops and fire fighters to protect and serve when there isn't a mob trying to ruin a city.

Who says the cops and fire folks don't want to see Ferguson go up in smoke and destroyed?

Interesting point. If that is the case, there should be condemnation and outrage on the part of every American. I am so sick and tired of watching public safety personnel and leaders shirk their obligation to protect the lives and property of American citizens whenever a period of social unrest breaks out. It is reprehensible.

What a ridiculous presumption suggesting they want to see this happen. Why in the world would the police and firemen, some of whom may live in that town and who rely on taxes to pay them, would want the town to go up in smoke.

 

[Vykng]

Why is the black community rallying their cause around a thug? There are so many racial injustices in this country. Pick a better one to to rally around. Don't pick the guy who robs a store, assaults the store owner, punches a cop in the cop car, then bull rushes a cop. Then to go riot and burn innocent people's busineses. Makes you wonder.

You ####### suck as a human being.

Oh shut up and go away. He's exactly right. Go get yourself a clue and spare us.

 

[matttyl]

Looting and rioting is terrible and indefensible. But it's ridiculous to conclude that the population doesn't care about its community just because a few terrible people act like idiots and trash the place. Do people in New Hampshire not care about their community? San Francisco? Vancouver? Southern California?

Interesting that you bring these stories up as "comparisons".

In New Hampshire, the link you posted references "college students". Did you go to college in your home town? I sure didn't.

The next two are sports related incidents. Are all spots fan's residence of the favorite team's city? I'm a Redskins fan but live about 2 hours from their stadium.

I followed the last link, in Huntington beach - a surfing competition where a bunch of teenagers and 20 some year olds rioted. The link tells you where those arrested are from. Only 1 of the 7 are from where the rioting took place. Thus you again can't ask if they don't care about their community - as 6 out of the 7 didn't riot in their own community - just like the other situations you referenced.

Now I'm not saying all those who are rioting now in Missouri are from there, but I would imagine most of them don't live too far away.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Why is the black community rallying their cause around a thug? There are so many racial injustices in this country. Pick a better one to to rally around. Don't pick the guy who robs a store, assaults the store owner, punches a cop in the cop car, then bull rushes a cop. Then to go riot and burn innocent people's busineses. Makes you wonder.

Yeah if Mike Brown were off doing something constructive (like mowing grass or washing the family car) instead of committing strong arm robbery none of this would have happened.

 

[TenTimes]

Assuming that not all the looters were from out of town, I never understood why a person would vandalize/loot the community that they live in.

Likewise. The liquor store I get.. but auto zone and the storage facility? Why?

I wonder if they could have framed up a couple prop buildings with nothing inside to give the rioters something to burn and save the real buildings/jobs.

"For looting, go south a couple blocks, there's a haystack with bottles of liquor hidden within"

"For rioting, we have a row of abandoned trailer homes a block north of here"

"If you want to protest peacefully just stay right here and we'll hang out a while"

 

[Jackstraw]

What time do the sub-human looters usually get up and start their day?

There we go.....

 

[Angry Beavers]

St. Louis County police chief: "It wouldn't have made any difference if the news was released in the morning."

Like what else is he going to say? We screwed up announcing this at night! In the meantime, I am taking inventory of buddies I can count on to post up with me and shoot people if my office building is ever the victim of a riot.....

 

[TheWalkmen]

61 arrests in Ferguson (you can google it) and I think I heard 27 in the city of St Louis. I'm a few miles southwest from the Shaw neighborhood where the looting occurred in the actual city. From about 10:45 - 11:30 last night I could hear a chopper, which was not too comforting, especially considering I have 2 little ones in my house. All I can say is this is an unbelievably sad situation for the entire metro area and the country. I have a feeling the city will be uneasy for several weeks. I really hope the property damage will stop and especially hope no innocent people fall victim to random violence.

 

[TobiasFunke]

Looting and rioting is terrible and indefensible. But it's ridiculous to conclude that the population doesn't care about its community just because a few terrible people act like idiots and trash the place. Do people in New Hampshire not care about their community? San Francisco? Vancouver? Southern California?

Interesting that you bring these stories up as "comparisons".

In New Hampshire, the link you posted references "college students". Did you go to college in your home town? I sure didn't.

The next two are sports related incidents. Are all spots fan's residence of the favorite team's city? I'm a Redskins fan but live about 2 hours from their stadium.

I followed the last link, in Huntington beach - a surfing competition where a bunch of teenagers and 20 some year olds rioted. The link tells you where those arrested are from. Only 1 of the 7 are from where the rioting took place. Thus you again can't ask if they don't care about their community - as 6 out of the 7 didn't riot in their own community - just like the other situations you referenced.

Now I'm not saying all those who are rioting now in Missouri are from there, but I would imagine most of them don't live too far away.

I have no idea about the geographical makeup of either the looters last night or the people who trashed cars and buses and started fires in SF after the Giants won the World Series. Doesn't really matter- my point was that it's ridiculous to assume an entire community doesn't care about its well-being just because you see rioting and looting.

 

[saintfool]

These looter types are feral, and all you can do with something feral is spay or neuter them and throw them back on the streets, knowing at least they can't breed anymore.

wtf? Some bizarre comments here.

Classic dehumanization. Once people are less than human you can do or say about anything and its cool.

Lot of it going around the innerwebs today.

It's like some posters feel emboldened following the mid-terms and have crawled out from under their rock.

 

[BigJohn]

61 arrests in Ferguson (you can google it) and I think I heard 27 in the city of St Louis. I'm a few miles southwest from the Shaw neighborhood where the looting occurred in the actual city. From about 10:45 - 11:30 last night I could hear a chopper, which was not too comforting, especially considering I have 2 little ones in my house. All I can say is this is an unbelievably sad situation for the entire metro area and the country. I have a feeling the city will be uneasy for several weeks. I really hope the property damage will stop and especially hope no innocent people fall victim to random violence.

Take care of yourself and your kids.

 

[timschochet]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

 

[TheWalkmen]

St. Louis County police chief: "It wouldn't have made any difference if the news was released in the morning."

Like what else is he going to say? We screwed up announcing this at night! In the meantime, I am taking inventory of buddies I can count on to post up with me and shoot people if my office building is ever the victim of a riot.....

There would be looting regardless of the timing of the announcement IMO. They wanted to announce it when kids were out of school and people were home from work.

 

[RBM]

What time do the sub-human looters usually get up and start their day?

Guessing not before noon.

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Um...my lawfully earned and gained property and the income from which I pay taxes expressly for the purpose of government protection comes before the lives of some marauding thugs. Cops standing in a line on a street while looters burn and vandalize isn't protecting any lives.

Lives come before property. It's extraordinarily disgusting and revealing you don't understand that.

You try to take mine and I am going to pump a shot into your body. If you value my property more than your life...that is your problem. Not mine.

The only thing you're pumping is a brown steamer into your pants when confronted by someone, in a scenario like this, deadset on taking what's yours.

Sure thing. I guess you have the viewpoint that most people live in fear of others. I am not one of them. I guarantee you that had I been a business owner in Ferguson, my building wouldn't have burned down.

Actually, it has nothing to do with fear. My viewpoint is that sane people value life over property.

Your implication was that I would be scared ####less. Trust me, it is the other guy who is going to be scared. If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk. Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

Why couldn't this have happened last night. I'd pay to see that scene.

If things went perfectly, meaning he and his buddies only shot and killed the responsible parties and injured no innocent bystanders they would still be looking at being considered for murder charges. That they believe they have a defense may not suffice to keep charges from being filed. Their defense might get presented at a trial, but before then they will be arrested, arraigned, likely have to nearly bankrupt themselves to get out on bail they will have to raise by putting up retirements and homes as collateral, if they even could get bail granted, which is no foregone conclusion, and then they would have to retain legal counsel at bankrupting rates.

His property, of course, would be closed off as a crime scene. Whatever business use to be conducted there would no longer be conducted with the property in the custody of the police and with the owner now either in jail or spending most waking moments preparing to defend himself in court.

His home would, if he got out on bail, now be a scene of unrest and potential protests. His family would be in constant danger, or at least he would feel it is in danger.

Explain to me again how shooting the looters is defense of anything. One doing so would not be defending their wealth, income, property, or security. They would most assuredly be buying into life-altering misfortune. Nope, you secure the property, remove valuables, and weather the storm elsewhere when you have advance warning the storm is coming. I would not ask my buddies to buy into this jackpot.

 

[BigJohn]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

 

[timschochet]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

so you think they do deserve to die?

 

[Ditkaless Wonders]

Assuming that not all the looters were from out of town, I never understood why a person would vandalize/loot the community that they live in.

Likewise. The liquor store I get.. but auto zone and the storage facility? Why?

I wonder if they could have framed up a couple prop buildings with nothing inside to give the rioters something to burn and save the real buildings/jobs.

"For looting, go south a couple blocks, there's a haystack with bottles of liquor hidden within"

"For rioting, we have a row of abandoned trailer homes a block north of here"

"If you want to protest peacefully just stay right here and we'll hang out a while"

We'll build another Rock Ridge!

 

[IvanKaramazov]

These looter types are feral, and all you can do with something feral is spay or neuter them and throw them back on the streets, knowing at least they can't breed anymore.

wtf? Some bizarre comments here.

Classic dehumanization. Once people are less than human you can do or say about anything and its cool.

Lot of it going around the innerwebs today.

I agree, but it's one thing to make nasty comments on a message board. It's another thing to burn down somebody's business because you've dehumanized them.

 

[BigJohn]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

so you think they do deserve to die?

Where has anyone indicated that a proper punishment for looters should be death?

 

[timschochet]

If I was a business owner in Ferguson it would be very simple. Myself and a couple of buddies would post up with some high powered semi automatic rifles and five hundred rounds of ammunition each. The moment my front window drops and I am dropping some mother####ers on the sidewalk.

Period.

There is no way in hell any jury is going to convict me of a ####### thing and I won't lose a moment of sleep over it.

Just in case anyone missed this classic post.

 

[TenTimes]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

still a decent 2 star

 

[McGarnicle]

Would loot

 

[TheIronSheik]

They should have waited until Friday to announce the verdict. You could have still called it Black Friday AND no one would have thought there was rioting and looting; just people trying to get some really good deals.

 

[tom22406]

Any complaints as to the way the media covered this story?

I wonder how much damage would have been done without them(and from what I saw it was a ton of media)around?

 

[timschochet]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

so you think they do deserve to die?

Where has anyone indicated that a proper punishment for looters should be death?

About 3 times this morning. About a dozen times last night.

 

[mr roboto]

A few things I think I'm pretty sure about...

1. Relations between cops and the African American community are not good (whether cops target poor blacks or that is simply perception from the black community I don't really know)

2. This shooting, this cop, this victim, this set of facts - not the most compelling proof of a police conspiracy to target young black men

3. Prosecutor and police are relatively tone deaf and contribute to the issue

4. Grand jury proceedings was all for show - prosecutor didn't want an indictment

5. If this went to trial there's no way Wilson is found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt

6. The looters are scum but are not reflective of the Ferguson community

7. This reaction will only cause to confirm in many white peoples minds that poor blacks are 'others'

 

[IvanKaramazov]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

so you think they do deserve to die?

Where has anyone indicated that a proper punishment for looters should be death?

You did. Apparently you have a problem with the sentence "They don't deserve to die." Not sure how else we're supposed to interpret your post.

 

[Hang 10]

Why is the black community rallying their cause around a thug? There are so many racial injustices in this country. Pick a better one to to rally around. Don't pick the guy who robs a store, assaults the store owner, punches a cop in the cop car, then bull rushes a cop. Then to go riot and burn innocent people's busineses. Makes you wonder.

 

[Ditka Butkus]

Any complaints as to the way the media covered this story?

I wonder how much damage would have been done without them(and from what I saw it was a ton of media)around?

Just my opinion, but at times it seemed like early on their tone was that they were hoping for more destruction...and they got it.

 

[eoMMan]

I really don't understand looting and burning down buildings simply because you disagree with this decision. What do these businesses have to do with it all? So dumb. I hope they lock up a lot of these idiots.

 

[meatwad1]

Why is the black community rallying their cause around a thug? There are so many racial injustices in this country. Pick a better one to to rally around. Don't pick the guy who robs a store, assaults the store owner, punches a cop in the cop car, then bull rushes a cop. Then to go riot and burn innocent people's busineses. Makes you wonder.

You ####### suck as a human being.

Why so serious?

I think he is asking a legitimate question.

 

[whiskey7]

I love the press. Words have meaning, and a fundamental part of their job is to convey meaning through words and yet they describe rioters and looters as protesters. They say that the D.A. defended the grand jury decision rather than explaining it or delivering it. The language last night did not report the incident, it shaped it and drove it.

+1

Always interesting to me to see/hear how the media hacks "report" what is going on. How many times during this fiasco have they referred to Brown as "teen"? While true he was a teen, at 18 he is legally an adult, no? I guess they feel using "teen" evokes a different reaction than "man". Also, caught multiple occasions where the twits on CNN used very curious wording to describe what we were seeing. "We're looking at the convenience store Mike Brown went into now being looted, Anderson." Yeah, he went into it. That's true.

 

[tommyGunZ]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

Sorry tim, you are correct but you forfeited the right to chastise folks on over the top rhetoric last night.

 

[IvanKaramazov]

“And I have to tell you, this is St. Louis’s race war. We didn’t have a race war like other cities throughout the country. This is our race war. And people have to be open, and they have to be honest. And they have to earnest. And they have not been earnest for decades. I know people in my own party, in my own government structure who disregard things that we say, and how we feel. And we are not going to allow it anymore.”

-- Missouri State Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/missouri-state-senator-to-msnbc-this-is-our-race-war/

Glad to see responsible lawmakers helping to cool things down a little.

 

[BigJohn]

I was really pissed off at the looters last night (still am) and used words like scum and animals to describe them. What really bothered me was not just the fact that they were ruining things for the vast majority of peaceful protestors, but that this was not spontaneous: these ####ers knew what was going to happen and were eager to take advantage of it. That's why so many wore masks.

But some of the rhetoric here is way over the top. We need to keep a little perspective. It would be more accurate to say that the looters were normal people who chose to act like thugs, scum, animals, etc. If caught they should be prosecuted for their crimes. But they don't deserve to die.

95% Tim. You made it 95% of the way through this simple, thoughtful post, then you went off the rails with your last sentence. Good Lord.

so you think they do deserve to die?

Where has anyone indicated that a proper punishment for looters should be death?

You did. Apparently you have a problem with the sentence "They don't deserve to die." Not sure how else we're supposed to interpret your post.

Just go away.

 

[timschochet]

Look, the peaceful protestors don't believe Michael Brown was a thug. At worst they think he was a dumb unarmed black teenager who didn't deserve to die. And honestly I'm still not sure this isn't correct. The prosecutor was pretty compelling last night but who knows what happened?

 

[Ditka Butkus]

“And I have to tell you, this is St. Louis’s race war. We didn’t have a race war like other cities throughout the country. This is our race war. And people have to be open, and they have to be honest. And they have to earnest. And they have not been earnest for decades. I know people in my own party, in my own government structure who disregard things that we say, and how we feel. And we are not going to allow it anymore.”

-- Missouri State Sen. Maria Chappelle-Nadal (D)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/missouri-state-senator-to-msnbc-this-is-our-race-war/

Glad to see responsible lawmakers helping to cool things down a little.

Now say it like a preacher.

 

[Guest]

I wonder how many of those people were from Ferguson that did the damage and how many outsiders actually just came in to tear #### up?

My thought exactly. The looters wore their masks while gathering waiting for the verdict, they weren't exactly being inconspicuous.

That ustreamer Baheem seemed like he was actually there for the right reason (a peaceful protest) and even helped save a couple of the local restaurants. But he stayed back with the police when the looters moved on to McDonalds and the liquor store.

I did see the part where he told people not to damage a couple of businesses, but earlier when things were quieting down at the barricade, Bassem was the one starting chants. "#### the Police", "It's legal to kill black people in the street!", etc. When the first police car got smashed, he was telling the smashers to "mask up". I thought he was a piece of ####.

Did he really get jacked later? I would have loved to see that.